Carson Plank X15

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Plank stood up to them by hiring Mogenson as an attorney, so now they're going after her, hook, line and sinker. Here's the latest:
http://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20...-to-bybee-case

Wow this is starting to get a little excessive. Especially considering the info that has come to light about the way this investigation was conducted in violation with these little things called federal laws. I'm intrigued to see the fallout from this mess.

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Here's the thing, and correct me if I am wrong Pat. You can't really prove intent on this type of crime. When all the deputies that have been to this ladies house get on the stand (and trust me they are) they are all going to say that she was crazy. I bet there is a history of calls to her house ( a mile long) that have tons of comments about her being crazy. Therefore how can you prove that CP didn't perceive her as crazy too? I will put 50 deputies on the stand including the Sheriff and ask them if they have ever encountered a person that had crazy notions on a call and how that call was cleared. If CP thought she the old lady was crazy she simply did what any other deputy would do, laugh it off.

The Sheriff is making this seem as though it was a "big" conspiracy between CP and FB. Even the most seasoned Deputies found this story hard to believe. What do you think a young rookie thought when she heard this story from this lady? If anything Carson Plank is a victim having trusted a fellow Deputy's word. Think about it.....if any of you got a call today and the person said the Sheriff tried to smother them in the middle of the night, would you not think that person was a whack job and clear with comments (yes you would) or would you take the evidence and write the Sheriff up like a full homicide? Intent is what we are talking about here. Did she intend to help Bybee cover up a crime or did she think this old lady was crazy like every other deputy? Intent?

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Here's the thing, and correct me if I am wrong Pat. You can't really prove intent on this type of crime. When all the deputies that have been to this ladies house get on the stand (and trust me they are) they are all going to say that she was crazy. I bet there is a history of calls to her house ( a mile long) that have tons of comments about her being crazy. Therefore how can you prove that CP didn't perceive her as crazy too? I will put 50 deputies on the stand including the Sheriff and ask them if they have ever encountered a person that had crazy notions on a call and how that call was cleared. If CP thought she the old lady was crazy she simply did what any other deputy would do, laugh it off.

The Sheriff is making this seem as though it was a "big" conspiracy between CP and FB. Even the most seasoned Deputies found this story hard to believe. What do you think a young rookie thought when she heard this story from this lady? If anything Carson Plank is a victim having trusted a fellow Deputy's word. Think about it.....if any of you got a call today and the person said the Sheriff tried to smother them in the middle of the night, would you not think that person was a whack job and clear with comments (yes you would) or would you take the evidence and write the Sheriff up like a full homicide? Intent is what we are talking about here. Did she intend to help Bybee cover up a crime or did she think this old lady was crazy like every other deputy? Intent?

I agree with you 100% and so do many other people that I've talked to. Additionally both statutes they've charged her with require the person who is being charged with violating it to know that a felony investigation was taking place. Who in their right mind would think a felony investigation would have commenced after that call given all of the circumstances surrounding it? Especially a new deputy. They also tell their story to make it sound like she was the only person on scene when there were others including those with stripes. Makes me worry that if my sergeant makes a decision on a call and the sheriff disagrees with it that I may be charged with a crime because of the sergeant's decision.

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Here's the thing, and correct me if I am wrong Pat. You can't really prove intent on this type of crime. When all the deputies that have been to this ladies house get on the stand (and trust me they are) they are all going to say that she was crazy. I bet there is a history of calls to her house ( a mile long) that have tons of comments about her being crazy. Therefore how can you prove that CP didn't perceive her as crazy too? I will put 50 deputies on the stand including the Sheriff and ask them if they have ever encountered a person that had crazy notions on a call and how that call was cleared. If CP thought she the old lady was crazy she simply did what any other deputy would do, laugh it off.

The Sheriff is making this seem as though it was a "big" conspiracy between CP and FB. Even the most seasoned Deputies found this story hard to believe. What do you think a young rookie thought when she heard this story from this lady? If anything Carson Plank is a victim having trusted a fellow Deputy's word. Think about it.....if any of you got a call today and the person said the Sheriff tried to smother them in the middle of the night, would you not think that person was a whack job and clear with comments (yes you would) or would you take the evidence and write the Sheriff up like a full homicide? Intent is what we are talking about here. Did she intend to help Bybee cover up a crime or did she think this old lady was crazy like every other deputy? Intent?

What you wrote is very scary.
And what you wrote is sadly true.

1. Plank was charged with a BS misdemeanor because she was involved in a "personal beef case" between Knight and Bybee (where Knight was made to look incompetent by the media). There is no need to rehash that here.

2. Since Knight looked like an idiot (in the media), he clearly wanted Plank to be punished -- and to be "made to look bad" in the media -- so Plank was publicly charged with a BS misdemeanor.

3. If Plank had accepted the BS misdemeanor (via PTI to make it "go away"), then the case would have been closed without any new charges, but instead of pleading guilty to Knight's accusation, Plank hired Andrea Mogenson (as her attorney) and Plank pled "not guilty" in the court of public opinion. THAT is why Plank was charged with the subsequent and additional BS felony charge -- to punish her for daring to publicly question Knight's judgement e.g. Mogenson was publicly quoted in the newspaper as saying that the entire thing charade is politically motivated which, once again, makes Knight look incompetent.

4. If Plank's family has money... and if they are willing to fight Knight (via Mogenson)... then it will be interesting to see if Ed Brodsky is willing to order his prosecutor to fully follow-through with a purely political case that could:
a. Make the SAO lose a highly publicized trial and
b. Make it look like Brodsky is politically fighting for a non-criminal BS case, on behalf of Knight's nutty punitive legal decisions.

While all of this is happening, Knight is concurrently fighting:
a. The chief judge of the entire 12th Judicial Circuit (because Knight illegally abandoned weapons checkpoints in court buildings).
b. Then Knight tried to legally and politically undercut the appellate court (by trying to amend/change the legal definition of what a courthouse or court building is).

All of this crap (and more) is swirling around in this ongoing knightmare.

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I certainly hope her attorney is just adding the names to the ever growing list of respondents for the lawsuit!

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Only one thing is for certain, this is going to be expensive case to prosecute. They claim its going to be a full two week trial at least for Bybee. Depending on how competent Bybee's council is, this is going to be one crazy case. With crazy people(literally), stuck on stupid deputies (plank). Stories of infidelity, stories of gigolo's, political issues, campaign issues and a messy motor home that had a few used condoms in it while sitting in the dealers lot.

In the end, if Plank ended up in prison and Bybee walking away a free man wouldn't surprise anyone at this point, but this is surely not a cut and dry case. It seems like Planks case is cut and dry, but It will all depend on how effective each sides council is.

At first I thought he absolutely was guilty. Then there came doubt via the trailer and political aspects, lawsuits and such, then came a deputy's text that seems pretty cut and dry. Then came the allegations about his escort escapades.

It's probably the only time I'd ever look forward to being a juror, as this case is beyond bizarre. Ringling Brothers may have shut down, but the circus show in Sarasota is just warming up.

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You guys are idiots.. She's guilty, "....squashed it" is a pretty easy way to prove intent.. And Mogenson isn't that great, a cop from VPD hired her some years back and got laughed out of court... Everyone wants this to be a conspiracy, the Sheriff has handled it wrong, but an arrogant and shitty Rookie is getting a dose of karma & Bybee is a psychopath that deserves life...

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You guys are idiots.. She's guilty, "....squashed it" is a pretty easy way to prove intent.. And Mogenson isn't that great, a cop from VPD hired her some years back and got laughed out of court... Everyone wants this to be a conspiracy, the Sheriff has handled it wrong, but an arrogant and shitty Rookie is getting a dose of karma & Bybee is a psychopath that deserves life...

What you're saying may be true! However, please answer this question:

Did VPD officers have PC to arrest Sheriff Tom Knight for disorderly conduct?

In inquiring minds want to know if there was PC.

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What you're saying may be true! However, please answer this question:

Did VPD officers have PC to arrest Sheriff Tom Knight for disorderly conduct?

In inquiring minds want to know if there was PC.

That's a no win question to answer because:

• If he says that VPD officers did not have PC to arrest Knight, then he is calling the officers liars.
  
• If he admits that VPD officers had PC to arrest Knight, then it proves that Knight is:
  (a) an emotional powder keg
  (b) has violent temper problems (when he doesn't get his way)
  (c) attempts to use bullying when someone says "no" to him.

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That's a no win question to answer because:

• If he says that VPD officers did not have PC to arrest Knight, then he is calling the officers liars.
  
• If he admits that VPD officers had PC to arrest Knight, then it proves that Knight is:
  (a) an emotional powder keg
  (b) has violent temper problems (when he doesn't get his way)
  (c) attempts to use bullying when someone says "no" to him.

Knight said "no" to the chief judge and almost got locked up, but that story is still unfolding. lol