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    Local Court Bailiff Searched and Disarmed by Coral Gables Officer

    EXCLUSIVE: Concealed carrier disarmed, searched, has weapon disassembled by Coral Gables Police

    by Lee Williams, Herald Tribune

    Daniel Oliva has never been in trouble.

    Far from it.

    The 34-year-old, married father of two works as a court bailiff for the Miami-Dade Courts, the 11th Judicial Circuit.

    He’s assigned to the domestic violence section. It’s a uniformed but non-sworn and unarmed position. There are police liaison officers assigned to the courthouse in case an armed response becomes necessary.

    Oliva obtained his concealed-carry license three years ago, but he only carries his Glock 19 when he’s off duty.

    “After working here in the courthouse and seeing so many people getting arrested for violent crimes, I felt the need to defend myself and my family,” Oliva told me Wednesday. “As a bailiff, I always get associated with the judges’ decisions. These people remember my face, but I can’t remember all of theirs.”

    Tuesday afternoon around 3 p.m., Oliva and his wife were driving in

    their 2008 Toyota Prius to pick up their seven-year-old son from school, when he was stopped by a Coral Gables Police officer.

    The officer told Oliva he had stopped him for driving 26 mph in a 15 mph zone, which Oliva disputes.

    As he was getting his driver’s license out, the officer noticed Oliva’s concealed-carry license in his wallet.

    “He asked me if I had a concealed weapon in the car — he stopped abruptly,” Oliva said. “I got a really bad vibe about how he was handling this. Before I could get my concealed-carry license out, he ordered me to put my hands on the dash and lean forward.”

    The officer demanded to know where Oliva was carrying the pistol. He told him it was in a belly band on his right side. The officer reached in, under his shirt and seized the weapon.

    He removed the magazine and ejected a round from the chamber, which Oliva said is probably still laying in the street near the school.

    “He took my handgun back to his car and ran it,” Oliva said. “When he came back I saw he had completely disassembled the weapon. He ordered me to pop my trunk.”

    The officer, Oliva said, dumped the gun parts into his trunk, and then pushed the rounds out of his magazine, one-by-one, into the trunk.

    He then issued Oliva a written warning for speeding, and for not Warninghaving a current insurance card.

    Oliva and his wife were very scared throughout the encounter.

    “He had a very tense — very tense — attitude,” Oliva said. “I don’t know what crime he suspected me of committing, but I didn’t want to confront him, especially in Miami-Dade. I probably didn’t say three words to him the whole time. We, my wife and I, were very sensitive not to disrespect him.

    “It’s horrible that a person who lawfully wants to protect their family is treated like a criminal,” Oliva said. “Especially that he did this in front of the school, in front of other parents in line to pick up their children. I don’t know if other parents may now associate my vehicle with that of a potential school shooter.”

    The officer, Oliva said, aggravated what should have been a very routine traffic stop.

    “I feel my rights were violated,” he said.

    Marion Hammer, executive director of the Unified Sportsmen of Florida and past-president of the National Rifle Association, agrees.

    “I believe this incident involves an illegal search — without provocation — of a law abiding citizen duly licensed to carry a concealed weapon,” Hammer said Wednesday.

    Coral Gables Police Chief Edward J. Hudak, Jr. said his officer did nothing wrong.

    “He saw the concealed firearms license, which led him to a heightened sense to know the driver was armed,” Hudak said. “Could there have been a more polite way to handle it? I would be more than happy to refer this to IA, and they would do an investigation from top to bottom before it comes to my level.”

    The police chief said his officer was well within his rights and department policy.

    “The way you have described it to me is that the officer by seeing the card, he would have the right to ask if there’s a weapon in the car,” Hudak said. “The other side of the coin is, if he leaves him in the car with a gun, is that ultimately optimum safety for the police officer? I believe the officer-survival skill is that he asks for the gun. The card is reasonable suspicion that a person inside the car may be armed, at which point the officer stays alive by the way he handled it. Based on the way you presented it to me, based on the officer seeing it in the wallet. It’s not a bad search.”

    Eric Friday, of Fletcher & Phillips, is the general counsel and lead attorney for Florida Carry, Inc. He too has issues with the constitutionality of the search.

    Surprisingly, Friday was not surprised by Oliva’s allegations.

    “This is not the first time I’ve heard this story– right down to every round out of the mag, disassembling the gun, and throwing it into the trunk,” Friday said. “Given the significant history of concealed-carry licensees as law-abiding citizens, they should be considered just as trustworthy as any police officer during a traffic stop.”

    Friday reiterated that no driver in Florida has a duty to tell police when they are armed.

    “Because of repeated instances such as you are describing to me, I no longer recommend that to people today,” Friday said. “I changed my position because of misconduct such as this. There used to be a mutual trust between law enforcement and most concealed-carriers, but police actions in recent years have done a lot to harm that history of mutual trust.”

    Friday said police need more training on how to conduct themselves when they encounter legally armed citizens.

    “We have a fundamental lack of trust now, and it cannot end well,” he said. “We have numerous examples of concealed-carriers who have stepped up and saved law enforcement when they’re in trouble. But I am not aware of any concealed-carrier who has had to rely on a police officer to save them from a suspect.”

    In my opinion, training is always an option, but I strongly believe it’s time for the legislature to create specific penalties that apply when the rights of concealed-carry licensees are abused, or this will continue unabated.

    Our preemption statute was continually abused by local governments until the legislature created specific penalties. The lawmakers added teeth to the law — fines that must be paid personally by any public official who decides to tinker and create their own gun laws.

    The same type of legal teeth need to be added to the statutes that protect the rights of concealed carriers.

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    Was this gables officer trained by FHP? What he did is "Illegal" I am a supervisor with 30 yrs of experience and there is nothing on the books, Florida law or department SOP that allows what that officer did. If the officer was scared, he should have called for a 15. Hudak is backing his officer to look good with the troops. Only in Miami-Dade.

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    I agree. These events should not have happened. Interim Chief Hudak made things worse as he failed to maintain his neutrality in public statements. Inexperience I guess. Before this incident, that court bailiff would likely have put his life on the line to back up that rookie officer in a crisis. Probably not anymore.

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    That's why my CWP card resides behind credit cards. No way a rook cop can see it. I too have experienced such treatment, either because a LEO observed the license or I made the mistake to advise that I had legal firearm on my person.

    Most definitely an IA investigation is warranted in this incident along with counseling and retraining of the officer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    That's why my CWP card resides behind credit cards. No way a rook cop can see it. I too have experienced such treatment, either because a LEO observed the license or I made the mistake to advise that I had legal firearm on my person.

    Most definitely an IA investigation is warranted in this incident along with counseling and retraining of the officer.
    I.A. won't do anything. The Chief already gave a statement. Shameful as that is. Officers safety is what it falls down to. That being said this cop was a jerk. Plain and simple. If he was "afraid". He could of just emptied the weapon. Placed the gun in the trunk and the clip elsewhere.

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    You can look up the information about the incident by going to http://p2c.coralgables.com/dailybulletin.aspx and typing in May 26 (at 3pm). Look for the incident involving Daniel Oliva.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Was this gables officer trained by FHP? What he did is "Illegal" I am a supervisor with 30 yrs of experience and there is nothing on the books, Florida law or department SOP that allows what that officer did. If the officer was scared, he should have called for a 15. Hudak is backing his officer to look good with the troops. Only in Miami-Dade.
    I wish it were only in Miami-Dade. There was a Citrus Co. Deputy who, a couple years ago, did the same but at gun-point! That debacle can be cringed at on video. The worse part is the officer who was a Marine Patrol Officer before Citrus took him, is now back with FWC in the Keys. The video can be seen on www.policeone.com.

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    Deputy out of control

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    I wish it were only in Miami-Dade. There was a Citrus Co. Deputy who, a couple years ago, did the same but at gun-point! That debacle can be cringed at on video. The worse part is the officer who was a Marine Patrol Officer before Citrus took him, is now back with FWC in the Keys. The video can be seen on www.policeone.com.
    Or the Citrus Co, page under "Deputy" if you prefer to stay on good old LEO Affairs. What a A$$ he is.

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    As stated above, no 15 means that the officer was just a jerk doing what he normally does. He seems like the same type of guy who would fire by accident when put under real stress.

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    Agreed. He doesn't have the right stuff to be in this profession.
    I hear Walmart is hiring greeters.

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