View Poll Results: Was Off. Darren Wilson justified in using deadly force against Michael Brown?
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Absolutely, he was in fear of his life and had reason to be!
237 59.55% -
I believe he was more justified than being unjustified.
47 11.81% -
I am indifferent or I do not know.
9 2.26% -
I believe he was more unjustified than being justified.
3 0.75% -
Absolutely not, he should have never used deadly force!
13 3.27% -
I do not have enough information to make a decision yet.
86 21.61% -
I believe he was justified in shooting, but he should have shot to wound.
3 0.75% -
My opinion is not currently in the above options.
0 0%
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08-15-2014, 11:10 PM #1
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Shoot / Don't Shoot Michael Brown Justification
This is certainly a highly contested event that is in the national spotlight. A Ferguson Police Department (Missouri) officer shot and killed an unarmed young black man on August 9, 2014. The title of this string is meant to cover exactly what it states, the justification for shooting or for not shooting Michael Brown.
According to news sources 18 year old Michael Brown, in the company of 22 year old Dorian Johnson, stole a box of Swisher Sweets Cigars valued at $48.99 from a Quik Trip store by means of strong arm robbery. These facts should not be in contention because there is a video of the robbery and Johnson later admitted that Brown took “cigarillos”. It should also be noted that Brown is listed as being 6’4” and 292 pounds. After responding to an unrelated call, Officer Darren Wilson stopped Brown and Johnson because they were walking down the middle of the road blocking traffic. Officer Wilson, who is 28 years old and has been a Ferguson police officer for 6 years, was not aware that Brown was a robbery suspect at the time. Accounts of the story then differ. Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson stated that one of the men pushed Off. Wilson into his police car. Brown assaulted and struggled with Officer Wilson inside his car, a struggle ensued over the officer’s weapon and a shot was fired inside the car. It was also stated that the struggle moved to the street where Brown was shot multiple times. There is also a report that the officer was injured and had swelling to his face. In contrast, CNN located two new witnesses (Tiffany Mitchell and Piaget Crenshaw) who said they never saw the struggle inside the officer’s car. In addition, Dorian Johnson stated that Off. Wilson ordered him and Brown onto the sidewalk, Off. Wilson grabbed Brown’s Neck and tried pulling him into the car before pulling his weapon and firing it. Johnson then said that Brown started to run away while Off. Wilson gave chase and began firing.
Some of the news accounts above are conflicting and it can be hard to weed out fact from fiction. As most of us know, this is not unusual in law enforcement. Add to that the fact that departments cease to give out information during criminal and internal investigations for obvious reasons, but that makes them fair game for people who know they can’t fully defend themselves or actions until the investigations are over. As for the credibility of witnesses and those seeking their 15 minutes of fame, you’re left to make your own determination on that one.
Some Sources Utilized:
http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nati...GFN/story.html
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...line/14051827/
http://gawker.com/watch-conflicting-...r-p-1621414491Last edited by chipdeblock; 08-20-2014 at 05:16 PM.
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08-19-2014, 06:39 PM #2UnregisteredGuest
Police Officer Darren Wilson has committed a crime now he needs to pay the price. No one is above the law in this country. Also, when you put on that uniform you are representing something bigger than yourself; you should be held to a higher standard. Police Officers have plenty of tools at their disposal to get the job done safely. Lastly, Police Officers need to police their own; one bad apple makes them all look bad.
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08-19-2014, 07:29 PM #3UnregisteredGuest
At least he was keeping his booger hook off the bang switch....
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08-19-2014, 07:34 PM #4
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08-20-2014, 11:50 AM #5UnregisteredGuest
You are making an assumption while ignoring the few facts available. First, Brown just committed a strong arm robbery. There is video showing him manhandling a smaller store employee minutes prior to his confrontation with Wilson. According to Johnson's initial statements, they hadn't been doing anything to warrant a police officer confronting them. What about blocking traffic and having just committed a robbery? Even if the officer wasn't aware of it, Brown and Johnson were. If Brown was quick to attack the store employee for blocking his path, is it unreasonable to assume he would physically attack a police officer minutes later if he thought the officer was aware of the crime and was going to arrest him? Another part that doesn't make sense is Johnson's contention that Wilson for no reason grabbed Brown around the neck and tried to drag him into the car through a window. Brown was 6'04 and 292 lbs. it is beyond belief that anyone would try to do this. If even part of this is true that Brown was partially in the vehicle at one time, it makes more sense that Brown put himself there such as shoving Wilson into the vehicle where a struggle ensued.
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08-20-2014, 09:36 PM #6UnregisteredGuest
Please explain how officer Wilson committed a crime. Oh because he shot a man who had just committed a robbery and was assaulting him, while trying to take his weapon. Your statement is ignorant and void. You apperantly base judgement off of emotion instead of facts. While place your self in the officers shoes. You would have shot as well. But because the officer is white and the kid is black let's make an example out of this officer. You will be pissed when the good officers quit the job because of people like yourselves and then are stuck with the "bullies, and self entitled jerks" and when that time comes, you have no justification to shoot off at the mouth.
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08-22-2014, 02:13 PM #7UnregisteredGuest
Guys, go to Gofundme.com Darren Wilson You can show your support! If any of us was attacked in our own police car and had to shoot to save our lives I know we all would appreciate the support.
THE ABOVE POST IS INACCURATE. I REFERENCED THE WEBSITE LISTED ABOVE AND WAS UNABLE TO FIND ANY LISTING UNDER "DARREN WILSON" - MOD 11
Here is the updated one. They switched it from the original to this one. http://www.gofundme.com/officerwilsonfundraiser. Mod 1Last edited by MOD 1; 08-23-2014 at 03:43 AM.
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08-22-2014, 08:13 PM #8UnregisteredGuest
I went to that website and only found Operation Ferguson. An anonymous B/F is looking to collect $750 because "it is time" for her to make the trip to Ferguson and "stand in solidarity" with her "brothers and sisters fighting for justice". Her account of the story, listed on the site, is heavily slanted of course and names Off. Darren Wilson as "Michael Brown's murderer".
I love the part where she says "All in all, 'WE FIRED UP.WE CAN'T TAKE NO MORE.'"
Oh, in case anyone is wondering, the $750 will go towards her $564 flight, food expenses and "any potential mishaps while in Ferguson". Sounds to me like she wants people to finance her vacation. Don't laugh too quickly though, she's already raised $655 from 22 people in 3 days. Here's the link: http://www.gofundme.com/OperationFerguson
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08-31-2014, 02:41 AM #9UnregisteredGuest
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09-07-2014, 10:07 PM #10
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Someone sent me this photo of Off. Darren Wilson in his hospital bed. It clearly shows his injuries after being attacked by what the sender describes as an "unarmed black teenager". The sender also stated that this "is what a broken eye socket looks like". Does this photo change anyone's vote in the Poll?
IMAGE REMOVEDLast edited by chipdeblock; 09-08-2014 at 04:01 PM.
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