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  1. #11
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    Re: Jurisdiction Over Hostile Work Actions at SSO???

    Quote Originally Posted by SSO
    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sherin
    But what does one do when you're working under an oppressive administration bent politically?
    What these folks do always comes back around -- and it comes when they least expect it. We do not have to do anything to Knight or his 2nd floor deceitful henchmen because Father Time and Mother Nature are already hard at work on them. Nobody escapes justice (in the big picture) and the picture show is still running...

    :cop:

    and what makes you think that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSO
    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sherin
    But what does one do when you're working under an oppressive administration bent politically?
    What these folks do always comes back around -- and it comes when they least expect it. We do not have to do anything to Knight or his 2nd floor deceitful henchmen because Father Time and Mother Nature are already hard at work on them. Nobody escapes justice (in the big picture) and the picture show is still running...
    Hitler could not understand why he was detested. Nobody ever said that Hitler was stupid and his leadership style speaks for itself, but everyone also agrees that Hitler was a madman. In the end, Adolf Hitler got what he so richly deserved. It's too easy to cough up the Hitler card, but if the shoe fits, then wear it.

  3. #13
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    Re: Jurisdiction Over Hostile Work Actions at SSO???

    This poser is not a lawyer licensed in Florida nor does he have any legal expertise.

    For legal advice, see your attorney licensed by The Florida Bar
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    Re: Jurisdiction Over Hostile Work Actions at SSO???

    Quote Originally Posted by Legally
    This poster is not a lawyer licensed in Florida nor does he have any legal expertise.

    For legal advice, see your attorney licensed by The Florida Bar
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    Good Post, poster.

    Please attach to the disclaimer, "Florida Bar Directive," because I sued The Florida Bar to have the right to discuss legal matters as a non-lawyer.
    The case was filed in Miami-Dade County Circuit Court: Bob Sherin v. The Florida Bar (2003), in the 11th Judicial Circuit Court in and for Miami-Dade County, Case number 2003-17732-CA-01.

    I succeeded. After ordering me to cease and desist all my activities, including discussing legal issues and writing letters for others , I sued and the Bar cried Uncle. Please see:
    http://BobSherinTalent.IhostStudio.com/ceaseanddesist

    They had considered my measly case for Declaratory Judgment so important that they brought in Greenberg-Traurig to defend them. It was ridiculous. Before Judge Leesfield, their attorney begged to dismiss my case, because, the legal argument went, the Cease and Desist Affidavit they had produced at their Miami offices for my signature was a mistake and they had no interest in pursuing me.

    To avoid any conceivable misunderstanding, I follow the disclaimer scrupulously.

    Let readers judge my "administrative expertise" by the merit of content and the possibilities it affords to act for the Deputies against SSO's hostile work environment. Judge me, not on titles, but on merit, please.
    Let me give you an example from my play book. My case occurred at a different time -- 1976 -- when honorable Governor Askew was at the helm. I had to style my case against the Governor and the Cabinet, Nova v. Askew et al. Nova was the corporate entity through which I was doing business. When I won, the entire situation turned around. I was invited to Tallahassee. The Governor and Cabinet approved my Order. The Department of Revenue then began consulting me as the expert on like taxes. (Beneath the Computerworld article is the actual Order approved by the Florida Cabinet and a short description of the case.)

    PLEASE SEE:
    http://books.google.com/books?id=k1IbhU ... 22&f=false

    In addition consider:
    I've practiced as a non-lawyer, qualified representative before DOAH since it was constituted in 1974. To see an example of smashing legal power, see my landmark case at
    https://www.doah.state.fl.us/ROS/1976/76001475.PDF Custom Software declared non-taxable under Florida's Sales and Use Tax (Chapter 212, Fla.Stats.). The decent Governor Askew and his Cabinet invited me to Tallahassee and signed off on the Order in my presence. At such a young age, I could hardly believe what I was seeing. The decision has controlled ever since.

  5. #15
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    Re: Jurisdiction Over Hostile Work Actions at SSO???

    Hey you're in. Miami Dade County. go away and bug them.

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    Re: Jurisdiction Over Hostile Work Actions at SSO???

    Revenge is BEST served COLD!

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    Re: Jurisdiction Over Hostile Work Actions at SSO???

    Quote Originally Posted by Guest
    Hey you're in. Miami Dade County. go away and bug them.
    To understand the nexus I have to SSO, please review my posts . There's a certain absence of social justice touching me. So that means any SSO social injustice is my focus, and, in this case, it applies to the deputies.

  8. #18
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    Re: Jurisdiction Over Hostile Work Actions at SSO???

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sherin

    Quote Originally Posted by Guest
    Don't go away mad, just GO AWAY!!!!!!!!!!
    Only in your dreams!

    First gang, let me address Ms. Amurrio, who has a jaded view of Constitutional America. I'm championing the same social justice, just not devoted to you in this thread. From the Board, I've learned there's plenty of social justice wanting at SSO. My feeling is, yes, I beat too loud a drum on this Board about you, given the many other injustices felt here. So I've turned my attention to giving of myself to the Deputies who risk their lives, the ones who have nothing to do with decisions regarding you. Ms. Amurrio, you've got to rid yourself of those Bolivian, cultural mores. When it comes to social justice, you ain't the only show in town.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guest
    If anybody were to take you up in your offer, they would be set up for failure and set up to be fired under progressive discipline. As a classic example, Chris Iorio was set up for failure with bogus allegations and Mr. Knight then suspended him for a couple of days without pay as retaliation for his whistleblowing. Is it fair? No. But that's the way it is here in Florida. Whoever the elected sheriff is has absolute dictatorial control over employment and punishment in the agency. If an employee is not doing anything wrong and if Mr. Knight wants to get him, no worries and no problem, because Bogus allegations will magically appear against the employee. On the other hand, Mr. Knight and his henchmen cover for the golden children, such as Charlie Casper. Rick Matola wanted to suspend him for making prejudicial remarks against minorities, but Mr. Knight did not want to. And of course there's the Ron Locke case and the Kevin Mccaylea a case and the John Walsh case and the list is endless. This place is bass backwards.
    Thanks so much for your post. Few miracles are ever achieved easily. And of course, we want to protect all jobs. First thing you Deputies do is get your bargaining unit to insist on parallel jurisdiction by the Division of Administrative Hearings over SSO personnel action. Make sure it's put into your contract as front line relief like a grievance. This will eliminate your having to exhaust other remedies just to get there. Please believe me when I say that invoking the Division of Administrative Hearings and the relief it can give is a giant leap beyond your present two methods of recourse.

    Let me give you an example from my play book. My case occurred at a different time -- 1976 -- when honorable Governor Askew was at the helm. I had to style my case against the Governor and the Cabinet, Nova v. Askew et al. (explanation of and link to the case above; link to Computrworld Article about it below). Nova was the corporate entity through which I was doing business. When I won, the entire situation turned around. I was invited to Tallahassee. The Governor and Cabinet approved my Order. The Department of Revenue then began consulting me as the expert on like taxes.

    PLEASE SEE:
    http://books.google.com/books?id=k1I...rld%22&f=false

    Now, I'm not saying Sheriff Knight will embrace you similarly, but he will have respect for your legal position and your potential to bring about big change in relatively small actions. Leverage is the key to eliminating a hostile work environment. I am only one individual. You Deputies have a powerful Union, more so when you add DOAH jurisdiction. For actions brought before DOAH on hostile work environment issues, none of you must be the party petitioner. You could do it all through your Union while remaining nameless in the background. Reimbursed transportation cost, I'd be pleased to share my views with your Union, gratis.

    If your Union gets wise to the techniques, you could shift the balance of power between SSO and Union. Trouble is, DOAH law is not well understood among the legal community at large. I'm sure there are expert law firms in Tallahassee & perhaps elsewhere that know the procedures I'm contemplating. Maybe not. Maybe I have a unique idea in mind as was the case in 1976. Similar procedures but different conceptualization of the factual issues. It's hard to say in these matters when one is breaking new legal ground.

    Ms. Amurrio, always happy, I'm not going away. I'm heartened to show my brand of social justice to Leo Deputies for their benefit. With you, I've only just begun -- but not here. Post your comments on the top thread, if you'll be so kind as to not burden the Deputies. LeoAffairs wants it that way and so do I.

    Florida Bar Directive: This poster is not an attorney licensed by The Florida Bar and has no legal expertise. For legal advice, contact your member of The Florida Bar.
    MOD, why is Bob allowed to reference Amurrio in posts. I thought that posts related to Cohen and Easdale were supposed to be limited to the two threads at the top. How does Amurrio have anything to do with a thread titled "Jurisdiction Over Hostile Work Actions at SSO???".

  9. #19
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    Re: Jurisdiction Over Hostile Work Actions at SSO???

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sherin
    Quote Originally Posted by Guest
    Hey you're in. Miami Dade County. go away and bug them.
    To understand the nexus I have to SSO, please review my posts . There's a certain absence of social justice touching me. So that means any SSO social injustice is my focus, and, in this case, it applies to the deputies.

    I'm thinking the words babbling non-sense

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    Re: Jurisdiction Over Hostile Work Actions at SSO???

    To understand the nexus I have to SSO, please review my posts . There's a certain absence of social justice touching me. So that means any SSO social injustice is my focus, and, in this case, it applies to the deputies.
    Guest:
    I'm thinking the words babbling non-sense.
    Ms. Amurrio [if I'm wrong, just demand a retraction], understanding social justice depends upon an educated mindset, e.g. culture, ethics & theology.

    "The qualities that contribute to success in law school and the practice of law or law enforcement include high-level reading comprehension; an ability to identify logical patterns and organize ideas; proficiency in writing; persuasiveness in speaking; ingenuity; insight into the legal, political and social history of the nation; interpersonal skills and integrity."
    from http://www.cuchicago.edu/academics/c...ocial-justice/, accessed 3/12/2014.


    Simply put, you're unequipped to grasp the social-justice abstraction.

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