Homeland Security Investigations

**worfusa2008** · 09-05-2011, 01:54 AM

Is this is where the jurisdiction and investigative responsibilities of the USSS will be transferred under the master empire building plan of Big Sis? Will the protective responsibilities of the USSS be relegated to the DHS Office of Protective Operations?

Excerpted from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Immig ... nforcement

"HSI was formerly known as the ICE Office of Investigations (OI). HSI Special Agents have legal authority to enforce the U.S. Immigration and Nationality Act (Title 8), U.S. Customs Laws (Title 19), along with Titles 5, 6, 12, 18 (Federal Criminal Code and Rules), 21 (food & drugs), 22, 28, 31 (Money and Finance), 46, 49, and 50 (War and National Defense) statutes; giving them the broadest federal law enforcement jurisdiction of any agency. HSI has more than 8,500 Special Agents, making it the second largest federal investigative agency within the United States government next to the FBI.

The change of names from ICE OI to HSI was announced in June 2010. Still forthcoming, Homeland Security Investigations Special Agent badges will replace ICE Special Agent badges and credentials. HSI is mandated not to use ICE insignia's on memos, emails, and letterhead. HSI special agents will still wear ICE insignias on uniforms until the department has resources to replace them. Part of the reasoning behind the name change was to better describe the general activities of the agency, and to avoid the uninformed stigma that this agency only investigates immigration-related issues (ex. ERO agents/officers were often confused for OI/HSI special agents). Perhaps, too, it is speculated that because HSI is the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's primary investigative body, some think it will be pulled out from under the ICE umbrella one day and stand independent under the DHS."

Are we, the people, going to have to be on guard against encroachment of our liberty not only from Holder's Department of Selective Justice but now from Big Sis's Department of Homeland Security?

I am reminded of an admonishment from Benjamin Franklin. "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Wake up Agents. Someday you will only be a citizen, or serf, your choice.

09-06-2011, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by worfusa2008

Is this is where the jurisdiction and investigative responsibilities of the USSS will be transferred under the master empire building plan of Big Sis? Will the protective responsibilities of the USSS be relegated to the DHS Office of Protective Operations?

Excerpted from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Immig ... nforcement

"HSI was formerly known as the ICE Office of Investigations (OI). HSI Special Agents have legal authority to enforce the U.S. Immigration and Nationality Act (Title 8), U.S. Customs Laws (Title 19), along with Titles 5, 6, 12, 18 (Federal Criminal Code and Rules), 21 (food & drugs), 22, 28, 31 (Money and Finance), 46, 49, and 50 (War and National Defense) statutes; giving them the broadest federal law enforcement jurisdiction of any agency. HSI has more than 8,500 Special Agents, making it the second largest federal investigative agency within the United States government next to the FBI.

The change of names from ICE OI to HSI was announced in June 2010. Still forthcoming, Homeland Security Investigations Special Agent badges will replace ICE Special Agent badges and credentials. HSI is mandated not to use ICE insignia's on memos, emails, and letterhead. HSI special agents will still wear ICE insignias on uniforms until the department has resources to replace them. Part of the reasoning behind the name change was to better describe the general activities of the agency, and to avoid the uninformed stigma that this agency only investigates immigration-related issues (ex. ERO agents/officers were often confused for OI/HSI special agents). Perhaps, too, it is speculated that because HSI is the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's primary investigative body, some think it will be pulled out from under the ICE umbrella one day and stand independent under the DHS."

Are we, the people, going to have to be on guard against encroachment of our liberty not only from Holder's Department of Selective Justice but now from Big Sis's Department of Homeland Security?

I am reminded of an admonishment from Benjamin Franklin. "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Wake up Agents. Someday you will only be a citizen, or serf, your choice.

I'm a bit confused by your call to action.

Wake up and do exactly what................................?

:?:

**worfusa2008** · 09-06-2011, 03:05 PM

Don't get caught up in a turf war between Holder and big Sis.

10-02-2011, 10:25 PM

The USSS is dying a slow death in DHS...and it's no one's fault but management. Going back to the Stafford days, they refused to play ball with DHS, despite DHS wanting to give them all sorts of responsibility and resources. Basham did nothing as Director, and Mark Sullivan has been following the same course since he became Director in 2006. To call them empty suits is giving them too much credit.

It's not the same death that Customs faced: quick and painless. DHS is slowing choking the life out of the Service while management sits back and repeatedly tells Congress, "We're fine. We don't need anymore resources. We're good, but thanks for opening up the checkbook for us." Sooner or later, the Service will be HSP: Homeland Security Protection. Thanks to Stafford, Basham, and Sullivan, there won't be a Secret Service left in a few years.

10-03-2011, 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by Blame management

The USSS is dying a slow death in DHS...and it's no one's fault but management. Going back to the Stafford days, they refused to play ball with DHS, despite DHS wanting to give them all sorts of responsibility and resources. Basham did nothing as Director, and Mark Sullivan has been following the same course since he became Director in 2006. To call them empty suits is giving them too much credit.

It's not the same death that Customs faced: quick and painless. DHS is slowing choking the life out of the Service while management sits back and repeatedly tells Congress, "We're fine. We don't need anymore resources. We're good, but thanks for opening up the checkbook for us." Sooner or later, the Service will be HSP: Homeland Security Protection. Thanks to Stafford, Basham, and Sullivan, there won't be a Secret Service left in a few years.

The above is a thoughtful view of the current USSS situation-one that I mostly agree with. I too am convinced that the Service's responsibilities will be (greatly) diminished as HSI expands. The eschewing of the ICE insignia by HSI is the writing on the wall, I believe. The jettisoning of FPS by ICE and is also a harbinger of increased investigative responsibility for HSI. That being said, I believe the end result will be a protection-only USSS. I honestly don't believe the Service will be folded completely. Given the Service's history and yes, mystique, I believe it will be maintained as an Agency-albeit one with only protection and protection-related-investigative responsibilities. The Service will maintain the responsibility for head-of-state level protection, threat assessment/PI and the Uniformed Division in its new form.