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    Rick Scott Insurance Proposal

    Scott's health insurance proposal would hit state workers' wallets hard
    'No free ride here,' state workers told
    By Paul Flemming
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    State employees — seven years without a general pay raise, layoffs looming and a separate proposal to require them to pay 5 percent of their salaries into pensions — also face the possibility of a massive change to their health benefits.

    Now, the state pays most of the health-insurance premiums for more than 140,000 active employees, including employees at agencies, universities and courts. Gov. Rick Scott wants to reduce the premium paid by the state starting in 2013.

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    By capping state subsidies for health insurance at $5,000 a year, as Scott proposes, the state would save $330 million a year.

    For employees — more than 35,000 retirees also buy into the insurance plan themselves — it would cost thousands more a year to keep the same coverage they and their families now have. Organized labor and lawmakers alike said lower-cost options with less coverage would be offered.

    But, to keep current coverage:

    60,101 rank-and-file state employees who insure their families would pay $9,920 a year for the same coverage with the state-contribution cap in place. Those employees pay $2,160 now. The state picks up $12,760 a year in premiums as it is.
    47,597 of those same Career Service workers who now have single coverage would pay $1,598 a year in a capped system. Those employees pay $600 now.
    18,804 exempt employees and senior managers would pay $9,916 for family coverage with a cap. They pay $360 now.
    7,353 exempt and senior employees with policies only for themselves would pay $1,598 a year with a cap. Now, they pay $100 a year.
    On Wednesday, state senators heard details of what Scott proposes.

    The Senate's budget chief said it's only fair to bring state-worker benefits more in line with what's offered in the private sector. Sen. JD Alexander, a Lake Wales Republican, also said employee-benefit costs must be judged in the context of cuts to all other state services such as education and health care for the poor.

    "There's no free ride here," Alexander said.

    Organized labor recognizes change is coming.

    "There have to be changes to the state group insurance because the current design of the plan is not viable and there have been changes in the market and other things," said Doug Martin, communications director for the American Federation of State County and Municipal Employees Florida Council. "However, we want a core set of benefits which is affordable."

    Alexander said with the lower state subsidies he'd expect state employees to consider less coverage.

    "I would expect employees would want to see offerings that were not as robust," Alexander said. They would probably take a much harder look at an (health savings account) plan."

    The AFSCME Florida Council also would want more choices for coverage, with lower-cost, less cooperage options, if a cap is implemented.

    "They can't mandate a platinum plan and then pay us in pewter," Martin said.

    More alternatives are likely.

    "With the Legislature's approval, (the Department of Management Services) would create additional options so employees could buy as much coverage as they needed," said Michelle Robletto, director of the state's Division of Group Insurance. "We would expect under a different plan offerings to put more focus on consumer plans, high-deductible plans."

    Martin said the union is set to release some studies in the coming weeks. It's been preparing intensely for a year as changes to health-insurance coverage became imminent.

    He said immediate savings in a tight budget year shouldn't overshadow the affect on recruitment and retention down the line or fail to consider consequences.

    There are also proposals to make premiums for early retirees actuarially appropriate, though with limits on how fast the cost would go up. Still, it poses possible problems for the state if they can't afford the hikes.

    "It's probably not in the state's interests to have thousands of retirees go on Medicaid," Martin said. "It may be saving in one part of the budget and shifting to another part of the budget."

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    Just another "beat down" by the MAN. I find the statement "no free ride" by toadie JD Alexander somewhat amusing. A "free ride" is exactly what the state has been getting on the backs of it's employees. I throw up a little each time I think of the thousands of state employees that voted for these morons. We have no one to blame but ourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tossed salad
    Just another "beat down" by the MAN. I find the statement "no free ride" by toadie JD Alexander somewhat amusing. A "free ride" is exactly what the state has been getting on the backs of it's employees. I throw up a little each time I think of the thousands of state employees that voted for these morons. We have no one to blame but ourselves.
    Probably the best thing state employees can hope for is the passage of Rep Rick Kriseman's recall bill this session. Of course, Scott would probably veto it if it passed because he would know it would expedite his departure. The Legislature would probably be unwilling to override a veto of this bill. Eighteen other states have recall bills to prevent a politician from obtaining office and being protected from removal for incompetence until the end of their term.

    California Governor Gray Davis was recalled in 2003, after having been elected in 1999. It would have been nice for Florida to have a recall law already on its books, but we aren't that fortunate.

    See the folowing link:
    http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/20 ... w-governor

    Recall Rick and Reclaim Reason

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    [quote=Ben Dover][quote="Tossed salad":cp3ez66z]Just another "beat down" by the MAN. I find the statement "no free ride" by toadie JD Alexander somewhat amusing. A "free ride" is exactly what the state has been getting on the backs of it's employees. I throw up a little each time I think of the thousands of state employees that voted for these morons. We have no one to blame but ourselves.[/quote]

    Probably the best thing state employees can hope for is the passage of Rep Rick Kriseman's recall bill this session. Of course, Scott would probably veto it if it passed because he would know it would expedite his departure. The Legislature would probably be unwilling to override a veto of this bill. Eighteen other states have recall bills to prevent a politician from obtaining office and being protected from removal for incompetence until the end of their term.

    California Governor Gray Davis was recalled in 2003, after having been elected in 1999. It would have been nice for Florida to have a recall law already on its books, but we aren't that fortunate.

    See the folowing link:
    [url="http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/february/209158/Winds-of-a-recall-swirling-around-Florida%E2%80%99s-new-governor"]http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/20 ... w-governor[/url]

    Recall Rick and Reclaim Reason[/quote:cp3ez66z]


    Here's the link. plug the folowing into your browser after the http://www.

    cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/february/209158/Winds-of-a-recall-swirling-around-Florida%E2%80%99s-new-governor

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    Those who can retire will do so. The pay, taking away our benefits, and the lack of any one with the fortitude to do whats right in this agency drives experienced detectives right out the door. It amazes me that they dont have an idea how to really move forward. We can be the best in the nation for insurance fraud but those at the top are only interested in fast stats and numbers not making a real dent on insurance fraud. Well you have the right GOV for your wishes , good luck! I will be gone before July! :cop:

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    Goodbye! Take the other complainers with you. I am trying to get some work done. I need my job.

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    There are many companies which provide various type of policies in insurance but i think health insurance is the best because you can get money easily in case of any health related problems.
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    Possibly the best thing state employees can hope for is the passage of Rep Rick Kriseman's recall bill this session. Of course, Scott would probably veto it if it passed because he would know it would expedite his departure.

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    I also feel that health insurance is the best for the above mentioned reasons.

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    Don't forget Jeff Atwater has been lockstep with Rick Scott on all these initiatives. We need new leadership in Tally.

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