AFAUSSS New Board No Leadership

We have been graced with an initial message from the new President of the association.

It is a lengthy paean of praise to the outgoing board, and particularly to the outgoing president. I guess a bit of hyperbole can be forgiven on the occasion of the passing of the torch of leadership.

Rather than condemn this initial offering, I counsel further patience.

Let's give it a little more time to see if the new President will quickly announce plans for the board of directors to address the previously identified and acknowledged deficiencies in the newly adopted by laws of the association and the foundation. In urging the immediate passage of the defective documents some proponents said that the problems would be addressed by the incoming board. Let's hope it happens; and quickly.

Let's also hope for more openness with regard to the board meetings; having them announced in advance, available for monitoring by interested members and having a detailed account of the matters discussed published on the web site within a very few days of the meetings.

I have great hope for the impending activity of the new board.

Well Patience what say you now? Has enough time elapsed for some subtantive action by the new BOD or should we give them several more months of inactivity before they tackle some of the problems of AFAUSSS. Just wondering.

Here is a partial six month review.

The treasurer has not participated in a board meeting for the last three months in a row. He should resign or be forced out.

The region 4 director has not looked at the message board in more than two months. He could care less.

The president ignores the association new rules. He permitted members who did not pay dues to stay enrolled for four months past the date the rules required them to be kicked out. Why? He wanted to hide that more than 100 members resigned, the largest number is the association's history. The President ignored the rules to create committees at his first meeting. So why have rules? Why go through the charade of voting when the board intends to ignore the rules?

There was hope that the region 1 guy would be good. Then the members received his outrageous petition to get $180,000.00 in donations, separate from the registration fees, for the annual drunk this summer in New York City. Only 100 have signed up.

There was hope that the region 1 guy would be good. Then the members received his outrageous petition to get $180,000.00 in donations, separate from the registration fees, for the annual drunk this summer in New York City. Only 100 have signed up.

Donations for what?

Is it for an AFAUSSS purpose or activity, or for something else?

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The new BOD is still wandering in the woods. Not much has changed.

[worfusa2008]

How many of the members are former GS-14 and above supervisors versus GS-13 and below street humps?

How many of the members are former GS-14 and above supervisors versus GS-13 and below street humps?

I don't believe that information is available in AFAUSSS.

How many of the members are former GS-14 and above supervisors versus GS-13 and below street humps?

Who cares?

I don't think you truly understand the nature of AFAUSSS. Our relationships are not based on our FORMER government rank, pay grade or position. In a recent face to face meeting I called former AD Johns "Lem" and several former SAICs by their first names. When he was living I called former DD Boggs "Pat".

What's really interesting is those FORMER GS-13s you refer to who went on in retirement to have privately owned businesses and investments which have made some of them millionaires. We still call them by their first names too.

AFAUSSS is as egalitarian as you will find any association to be. Many retirees who were initially reluctant to join the association or attend meetings have been surprised to find that old animosities and resentments have melted away.

At a reunion you will find two principal kinds of conversation going on: a review of current aches and pains and retelling of old war stories. Later on there will be discussions of RVing, Cruising and other vacation experiences. Finally there will be plans for future social gatherings and the next reunion.

By the way, although the association is composed primarily of former agents, associate membership is open to other USSS employees, and spouses, particularly widows, are included. There are no class distinctions.

It would be contrary to the spirit of the association to capture and keep the kind of statistic you have inquired about.

Why did you ask? I suspect that you wanted to demonstrate that the membership is elitist. If so, you are simply wrong.

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[worfusa2008]

The more things change, the more they remain the same. Enjoy the Kool-Aid.

The more things change, the more they remain the same. Enjoy the Kool-Aid.

In other words you can't deny what was said so you get sarcastic.

It appears that you prefer to stay on the outside and nurse your grievances.

That's sad.

The last few messages on this thread demonstrate another clear situation that a message thread starts on one topic (a clear and concise statement of facts that the BOD can answer or say sorry we screwed up), but no reply. Instead, the Board changed the topic and attacked the messengers who asked reasonable questions such as Why does the region 1 director need an additional $180,000.00 be raised for his NYC annual conference? This is $180,000 more than the costs the members will pay in their registration fees. What is that money needed for? No answer.

The question about pay grades in this thread goes to the fact that the annual conference is attended by 90% of members at the GS-14 or above. The board purposefully makes the events so expensive that only a handful want to go.

More observations of poor leadership. The BOD hired a new financial management firm to invest the foundations funds without asking for competing bids. The BOD hired the company whose sole claim to fame was that it donates money to run the Oldstar message board. Professional search? Not done.

Why are the number of members listed on Oldstar (list all) inflated by 100 persons from the names listed in the Oldstar (excel) membership list? People who did not pay dues still have access to Oldstar. Leadership? None.