IA IN TROUBLE ON LUGO'S CASE-RUMOR OR FACT

It just shows you that when IA wants to get you, they will make up anything to do it.

But they are not beyond being SUED PERSONALLY. Yes, sue them and not the city, and watch the law dept let these liars swing in the breeze. They have homes, cars. boats, whatever. But don't name the city and watch these hatchet men have to hire lawyers out of their own pocket. When you win, THEN go after the city. AIN"T PAYBACK A BIT*H ? :devil:

C**O! Acere que razon tienes!! Eres el Caballo!! Lugito dales candela!! Lawsuit pa' todo el mundo!!!! Se van a cagar! :devil:

It just shows you that when IA wants to get you, they will make up anything to do it.

But they are not beyond being SUED PERSONALLY. Yes, sue them and not the city, and watch the law dept let these liars swing in the breeze. They have homes, cars. boats, whatever. But don't name the city and watch these hatchet men have to hire lawyers out of their own pocket. When you win, THEN go after the city. AIN"T PAYBACK A BIT*H ? :devil:

And do not forget the chain of command. Vicarious liability travels upward VERY WELL. And the chiefs have the $$$$$$$$$and/or assets. T$ and BK have the coin bro, go for it.

So is he comeing back yet cause I heard the city is out of lies . LUGO WE GOT YOUR BACK cant wait to see you back the city is runing scared. :devil:

So is he comeing back yet cause I heard the city is out of lies . LUGO WE GOT YOUR BACK cant wait to see you back the city is runing scared. :devil:

Another example of immaturity. Even if he get's off (again on a technicality), it still doesn't change the fact that he did what he was accused of.

Why do we want these types wearing our uniform again?

[JAVI ORTIZ]

So is he comeing back yet cause I heard the city is out of lies . LUGO WE GOT YOUR BACK cant wait to see you back the city is runing scared. :devil:

Another example of immaturity. Even if he get's off (again on a technicality), it still doesn't change the fact that he did what he was accused of.

Why do we want these types wearing our uniform again?

"It still doesn't change the fact that he did what he was accused of."
And, who the hell are you? I hope you're not one of the guys in IA that has drank too much of the kool-aid. When you do an investigation, you must be unbiased and stick to the facts. There are plenty of IA investigators up there that do just that...THEY STICK TO THE FACTS AND THEY DO A GREAT JOB.
People have contacted me about the FACTS of the case. You're obviously one of the uneducated ones that has a very vindictive or biased personality.

I also see a very similar post under Court Liasion (on leoaffairs) that says you should go to court and you won't get written up. I know plenty of people that follow the rules and get burned anyway. If the Miami Police Department wants the rank and file to obey the rules, they must follow them too. The FOP will not tolerate anyone violating your rights. Yes, its true a Step TWO grievance was filed yesterday against the Court Liaison folks for violating the contract. There are plenty of hard working Officers getting a 30, 40, or 60 hour reprimand for missing one day of court because they had several subpeonas on the same day. Is that fair? The department is sending a message of: DON'T WORK AND YOU WON'T GET DISCIPLINED. NO WORK, NO SUBPEONAS. There phone system is in shambles. I've got more than enough evidence that many times when you call up there, the phone rings and it isn't answered. The next time you get a tickler for not going to court and they order you to write a statement, make sure you explain that the no one picked up the phone (if that is the case).

I look forward when the Governor signs the revised Officer Bill of Rights. It will give our union members more rights and the power to discipline those that don't follow the rules.

Remember WE ARE THE FOP. If you observe someone violating another member's rights, it is your duty to bring it to the attention of the membership. Protect eachother!

Fraternally,

Javi Ortiz
Miami FOP Lodge #20 Executive Board Member

So is he comeing back yet cause I heard the city is out of lies . LUGO WE GOT YOUR BACK cant wait to see you back the city is runing scared. :devil:

Another example of immaturity. Even if he get's off (again on a technicality), it still doesn't change the fact that he did what he was accused of.

Why do we want these types wearing our uniform again?

Well, take away T$'s, and locke's uniform first then. Tell the election sign major to turn his uniform ALSO. Hey, when the fish smells from the head first, it's very hard to fire other for less.

Javi,I love u. No one does it better,l.o.l.

So is he comeing back yet cause I heard the city is out of lies . LUGO WE GOT YOUR BACK cant wait to see you back the city is runing scared. :devil:

Another example of immaturity. Even if he get's off (again on a technicality), it still doesn't change the fact that he did what he was accused of.

Why do we want these types wearing our uniform again?

"It still doesn't change the fact that he did what he was accused of."
And, who the hell are you? I hope you're not one of the guys in IA that has drank too much of the kool-aid. When you do an investigation, you must be unbiased and stick to the facts. There are plenty of IA investigators up there that do just that...THEY STICK TO THE FACTS AND THEY DO A GREAT JOB.
People have contacted me about the FACTS of the case. You're obviously one of the uneducated ones that has a very vindictive or biased personality.

I also see a very similar post under Court Liasion (on leoaffairs) that says you should go to court and you won't get written up. I know plenty of people that follow the rules and get burned anyway. If the Miami Police Department wants the rank and file to obey the rules, they must follow them too. The FOP will not tolerate anyone violating your rights. Yes, its true a Step TWO grievance was filed yesterday against the Court Liaison folks for violating the contract. There are plenty of hard working Officers getting a 30, 40, or 60 hour reprimand for missing one day of court because they had several subpeonas on the same day. Is that fair? The department is sending a message of: DON'T WORK AND YOU WON'T GET DISCIPLINED. NO WORK, NO SUBPEONAS. There phone system is in shambles. I've got more than enough evidence that many times when you call up there, the phone rings and it isn't answered. The next time you get a tickler for not going to court and they order you to write a statement, make sure you explain that the no one picked up the phone (if that is the case).

I look forward when the Governor signs the revised Officer Bill of Rights. It will give our union members more rights and the power to discipline those that don't follow the rules.

Remember WE ARE THE FOP. If you observe someone violating another member's rights, it is your duty to bring it to the attention of the membership. Protect eachother!

Fraternally,

Javi Ortiz
Miami FOP Lodge #20 Executive Board Member

Has there ever been anyone deemed worthy enough by you to deserve discipline? What about your little incident in the grove?

Everything can't be a technicality. Some times you just have to step up and accept the punishment.

As a Sergeant, how much discipline have you initiated when you have personally observed a violation of Departmental Policy?

I am the first to admit that their are overzealous IA investigators, but you make it seam like NOBODY violates policies. Believe it or not, we have had some really bad seeds in our department.

Just remember what we were told when we got hired; "It all starts with a free cup of coffee and the next thing you know your throwing dead bodies in the Miami River", or maybe planting guns, or maybe escorting possible drug runners up and down I-95.....

Just for the record, how many times did the FOP represent Nunez, before he was ultimately fired?

I guess we have found a couple that deserve discipline first we can start with you javi defends the cause so in the future they dont do it for you. If something is straight up he will tell you then you can deal with it, and to name a couple T$, Lt Locke, Luquis, Maj Gomez all deserve discipline so go back and hide in your whole and we will call you when we need you. Yeah and you can add those supervisors that violate officers rights to that list. :twisted: