Who Shot the Dog? and Tased the 13 Year Old?
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    Who Shot the Dog? and Tased the 13 Year Old?

    In regards to the letter to the editor in today's paper, I am curious as to whether the SO or the PD, or both were involved. The letter was not clear.

    Would someone offer up the details so that we can hear Law Enforcement's side of the story instead of just the Mother's slanted side of it. Hearing just the mother's side of it, it doesn't sound real good. I know there has to be a lot more to it than what was there.

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    Re: Who Shot the Dog? and Tased the 13 Year Old?

    Don't look for any law enforcement response here. Bet they are talking only to their attorney and preparing for a civil action.

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    Don't look for any law enforcement response here. Bet they are talking only to their attorney and preparing for a civil action.
    I wish the Newspaper would have done an article on it based upon the Police Report. At least then we could have gotten the other version of it.

    I would love to read that report.

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    Re: Who Shot the Dog? and Tased the 13 Year Old?

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    Don't look for any law enforcement response here. Bet they are talking only to their attorney and preparing for a civil action.
    I wish the Newspaper would have done an article on it based upon the Police Report. At least then we could have gotten the other version of it.

    I would love to read that report.
    The report is a matter of public record and you can acquire a copy from the involved law enforcement agency. Unless it's still an open investigation.

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    Don't look for any law enforcement response here. Bet they are talking only to their attorney and preparing for a civil action.
    I wish the Newspaper would have done an article on it based upon the Police Report. At least then we could have gotten the other version of it.

    I would love to read that report.
    The report is a matter of public record and you can acquire a copy from the involved law enforcement agency. Unless it's still an open investigation.
    Thanks. I am aware of that. As small as this town is though, I don't think that would be a prudent thing for me to do. I can see now the scrutiny that my family and I would face from the law in this town, if I were to request a copy of that report. Of course I know that they would never do anything illegal, but they could still make things very uncomfortable for any law abiding citizen if they wanted to.

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    Re: Who Shot the Dog? and Tased the 13 Year Old?

    It's a shame you're living in fear of local law enforcement.

    I've not heard of one case of a citizen being intimidated by cops after requesting a copy of a police report.

    Maybe one of Taylor's Finest will post a copy in this forum for all to read. I'm sure they don't have anything to hide.

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    Re: Who Shot the Dog? and Tased the 13 Year Old?

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    It's a shame you're living in fear of local law enforcement.

    I've not heard of one case of a citizen being intimidated by cops after requesting a copy of a police report.

    Maybe one of Taylor's Finest will post a copy in this forum for all to read. I'm sure they don't have anything to hide.
    I haven't heard of them doing it either, but I wouldn't put it past some of them here not all, but some. I'm taking it that it happened in the city, but we haven't been able to confirm that. The letter to the editor stated Taylor County Police and Sheriff's Dept. I'm guessing both Perry PD and TCSO were on the scene.

    I wish the police would discuss their side of it, as we all know theirs numerous sides to every story. All the public is getting is the Mother of the teenagers involved. Granted, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but it is all we the people have to go on.

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    Re: Who Shot the Dog? and Tased the 13 Year Old?

    The person that wrote that letter to the editor had a clear anti-police slant, the truth is:
    Officers went to the residence ( a pay by the day motel) to question suspects about some houses that were burglarized. The upstanding citizens inside pushed a pit bull mix not a lab out the door toward the officers. The dog caught one of the officers in the leg, officer 1 was able to kick him away and the loving non-violent dog charged another officer bearing teeth. The other officer saw that the loving animal had just bitten a fellow officer and decided to recklessly shoot the dog to keep from getting bitten as well.

    The officers acted properly and there was no hint of negligent action. Sorry for the sarcasm in the post but all the frivolous complaints are starting to chap my A%&.

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    Re: Who Shot the Dog? and Tased the 13 Year Old?

    Why did the officer use lethal force? Do they not have intermediate weapons like tasers, pepper spray or an asp. If so, do they receive training for these situations? Did they not consider innocent bystanders could be hit by gunfire? Is the officer on leave pending an investigation? Not sure a dog bite is considered life threatening.

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    Re: Who Shot the Dog? and Tased the 13 Year Old?

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    Why did the officer use lethal force? Do they not have intermediate weapons like tasers, pepper spray or an asp. If so, do they receive training for these situations? Did they not consider innocent bystanders could be hit by gunfire? Is the officer on leave pending an investigation? Not sure a dog bite is considered life threatening.
    Stopping a dangerous dog
    Courts across the country have declared pit bulls as "lethal weapons." Police officers have the right to shoot and kill when under threat or when protecting citizens. Examples of officers shooting pit bulls are a daily occurrence in the news. They are often quoted as saying, "The taser did not stop the dog. I had to use my gun."
    Even when a pit bull is challenged by a group of humans it will not retreat. Wild animals, on the other hand, have self-preservation instincts. They usually flee when confronted in the same manner.

    Lets look at the options you presented that the officer could have used.
    You have an aggressive pit bull charging you, he is intent on catching you and is basically on a mission. He is closing fast and you have a mere second to react. You can choose a Taser, An ASP or other baton, Pepper Spray or your firearm.
    If you choose the Taser will you be able to place both probes into the charging animal? A single probe hitting the dog will not incapacitate him. Maximum range on the TASER is less than 30 feet.I think not....
    Next option is an ASP, do you really want to wait until the dog is close enough to lunge and catch you before the weapon you have chosen will strike him? ASPs are not very long and I personally would not like to wait that long to defend myself.
    Next pepper spray, did you know that pepper spray does not work on every person out there? Did you know that pepper spray does not work on all dogs out there. A dog with an aggressive drive will not be deterred by pepper spray, it actually has the opposite effect on the high drive dog, making them attack a little more violently. would you actually choose this option knowing that if you spray him and it does not work he will actually be a little more violent than he has already been.
    Finally the Firearm, yes it is a lethal choice, yes it cannot be undone. But when you consider a pit bull can and will kill you, Yes it is a lethal weapon unto itself and has been banned it several areas of the country, and yes it is easier to shoot a dog with a firearm than with a TASER.
    So take your choice, use something that might work if all circumstances are perfect or use a firearm, I will use my firearm....
    Oh and unless someone was on the ground crawling as fast as the dog at you you are not going to shoot them. Look at the geometry of the situation.

    Pit bulls and pit-bull crosses (not always easy to distinguish) have caused more than a third of the nation's dog-bite fatalities since 1979 and a comparable proportion of serious injuries.

    You can check out this link and see how dangerous these guys really are:
    http://pit-bulls.christianfunfair.org/attacks.htm

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