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08-10-2008, 05:09 PM #1
High Risk Retirement
Has anyone at other agencies heard anything from the FRS regarding regaining high risk retirement? We have been told that FRS is sorting through all of the information.
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08-14-2008, 07:49 AM #2
Re: High Risk Retirement
You gotta be kidding. This is like the dispatchers wanting high-risk retirement coverage. In order to get high-risk retirement, you actually need to be in a HIGH RISK position! What's the high risk, dusting for prints or taking pictures???
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08-19-2008, 03:55 AM #3
Re: High Risk Retirement
Originally Posted by Guest
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08-19-2008, 03:49 PM #4
Re: High Risk Retirement
Originally Posted by Guest
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08-19-2008, 03:58 PM #5
Re: High Risk Retirement
Originally Posted by Guest
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08-22-2008, 11:27 PM #6
Re: High Risk Retirement
We just received notice today that we again have high risk.
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08-28-2008, 06:53 AM #7
Re: High Risk Retirement
Originally Posted by RealCSI
Originally Posted by RealCSI
Originally Posted by RealCSI
Originally Posted by RealCSI
Let's see. In 2007, 188 law enforcement officers died in the line of duty. How many crime scene techs died in the line of duty? In fact...why don't you post a link to a story from last year showing ONE crime scene tech dying in the line of duty due to some of these "hazards" that you face.
The statistics speak for themselves. Your job isn't anymore hazardous than a nursing assistant in an ER. I'm not saying your job isn't important, but don't try to play it up to be something it's not. You do NOT face the same hazards that LEOs or firefighters face and your rates of on the job injury and death show that.
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09-03-2008, 11:44 PM #8
Re: High Risk Retirement
Well, obviously you are one of the officers that actually makes sure the scene is secure. When is the last time you were sent into a scene (unarmed) to be processed and were surprised by a individual who came out of a locked room with a gun after the scene was described to you as "safe"? True story...turns out that person was the owner of the business and wasnt a threat, but what if that had been the bad guy? Like our fingerprint brush is going to stop them? Oh right, I guess thats when we use our flash! And another true story...a Tech is processing the outside of a window for prints and is surprised by the bad guy looking back at her through the window. Yet again, another "safe" scene. And the officer, yeah, safely tucked away in his cruiser typing his report.
Additionally, when is the last time you made a bad arrest and were fired for it? Latent Print Examiners everyday are called on to make perfect conclusions. One bad ID and guess what, career is over. You make a bad arrest and you're checking on for your shift the next day. So in addition to the other facts from the other posts, Forensics should be considered high risk. Why would you deny it to the individuals that are there to help make your cases stick, and often times are the main, if not only, reason these bad guys end up off the street for good.
And if you are going to tell me that the Techs and Examiners don't help you, I would think maybe hiding your degrading attitude towards them might improve your situation.
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09-09-2008, 05:42 PM #9
Re: High Risk Retirement
Had a Sig 5 Suspect try to turn himself in to the CST working Sig 5 scene. Outside scene. CST's are in uniform. Suspects dont know the difference, let alone the civilians. CST's have earned High Risk.
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09-12-2008, 06:14 AM #10
Re: High Risk Retirement
Again....post some links to all these crime scene techs who have been killed in the line of duty. Actually, you could also just post a link to show how many are injured in the line of duty. Neither are going to come anywhere close to those who are actually sworn officers or firefighters. The Department of Labor keeps such statistics, so feel free to go look.
You can make whatever arguments you want, but in the end it comes down to that. High risk is high risk for a reason. Nobody is "belittling" those of you who do the job, all that's being done is pointing out simple facts. Being in the science field you should understand empiricism and statistics. The statistics don't support your job being considered high risk.
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