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Thank God that the rest of Florida does not operate like the Gestapo in Miami.

The Sanford Police Department said officers were prohibited from arresting Zimmerman the night of the shooting...

Have either of you actually read 776.012? If you did, did you actually comprehend what it said and what it means? Obviously not! The Sanford Police Department did EXACTLY what 776.012 specifically...

Good God at the IGNORANCE of those on here defending poor little Trayvon. It is painfully obvious you cannot understand simple assault and battery laws, let alone 776.012 (Stand You Ground) or...

I'm sure no cry babies would quote some case law like Stallone vs Producers of the movie Over the Top, as to why we couldn't.[/quote:137z3f0x]

I am getting tired of taking advantage of the...

I'm sure no cry babies would quote some case law like Stallone vs Producers of the movie Over the Top, as to why we couldn't.[/quote:2huqs2oy]

I am getting tired of taking advantage of the...

Again, your details are simplistic at best! In a situation as you described, you do not know all the facts as of yet, just as you have left them out in your story. What was his demeanor? What was...

Again, your details are simplistic at best! In a situation as you described, you do not know all the facts as of yet, just as you have left them out in your story. What was his demeanor? What was...

Here you go.

So, you are implying that pointing a gun at someone is deadly force. And you are implying that every time a police officer points a gun at someone that the officer is needlessly...

No backpedaling by me. It is a shame you lack the ability to comprehend what has been stated. If you think I am backpedaling please show me where. I have proven to you that a person must indeed...

Here you go.

So, you are implying that pointing a gun at someone is deadly force. And you are implying that every time a police officer points a gun at someone that the officer is needlessly...

No backpedaling by me. It is a shame you lack the ability to comprehend what has been stated. If you think I am backpedaling please show me where. I have proven to you that a person must indeed...

How many minor traffic violations that began a pursuit ended up with the suspect being caught and was wanted for armed robbery, murder, home invasion, or nothng at all. The point is that anytime...

I didn't see this post earlier but feel compelled to comply.

No cry babies, are you on crack?
Tennessee vs Garner is regarding a fleeing felon. It has nothing to do with your previous example....

Here you go.

So, you are implying that pointing a gun at someone is deadly force. And you are implying that every time a police officer points a gun at someone that the officer is needlessly...

I didn't see this post earlier but feel compelled to comply.

No cry babies, are you on crack?
Tennessee vs Garner is regarding a fleeing felon. It has nothing to do with your previous example....

I didn't see this post earlier but feel compelled to comply.

No cry babies, are you on crack?
Tennessee vs Garner is regarding a fleeing felon. It has nothing to do with your previous example....

Dear Golden Star:

What I find amazing is that so called law enforcement on this thread do nothing but bash her for doing her job and stop at nothing to defend Lopez. Please post any law were it...

Both of you guys...are you serious! Who really cares? Do you think everybody is on pins and needles because of your "debate" and we can't wait until you next post/response. Oh yea, take a poll,...

No Cry Babies, I'm disappointed in you. Perhaps you need to reread FSS 316.192 because you left out the most important part (inadvertently I'm sure) the intent. There needs to be a "willful and...

Then again, maybe it is people like you who are the slim, trying to slander someone for doing their job! If you are trying to defend the Miami officers actions then you are pathetic!!!![/quote]
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Then again, maybe it is people like you who are the slim, trying to slander someone for doing their job! If you are trying to defend the Miami officers actions then you are pathetic!!!![/quote]
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So your saying that if I obey the speed limit I need not concern myself with avoiding other vehicles on the road? Oh, and this is not a courtroom. But if it was I wouldn't need to argue anything all...

Wrong once again! State Law is one of the Governing Authorities that must be followed but not the first and foremost one.

An officer must abide by:
1. Constitutional Law (i.e. Garner v....

So once again, you have proving my point with your statement! The subject's ACTIONS expressed his/her intent. Just as officer Lopez's actions did.

Also, if he wasn't driving like an idiot and BREAKING the law, he wouldn't have to be trying to avoid hitting the other cars. God, I wish I could be in court and hear you bring up that dumbass...

Hey stupido, If he was doing over 120 mph for 7 minutes, he had to have traveled at least 14 miles. Not the 11 and them 12 miles baker watts has stated. Can your peanut brain understand this? HELLO!...

No Cry Babies, I'm disappointed in you. Perhaps you need to reread FSS 316.192 because you left out the most important part (inadvertently I'm sure) the intent. There needs to be a "willful and...

No Cry Babies, I'm disappointed in you. Perhaps you need to reread FSS 316.192 because you left out the most important part (inadvertently I'm sure) the intent. There needs to be a "willful and...

Hey stupido, If he was doing over 120 mph for 7 minutes, he had to have traveled at least 14 miles. Not the 11 and them 12 miles baker watts has stated. Can your peanut brain understand this? HELLO!...

No Cry Babies, I'm disappointed in you. Perhaps you need to reread FSS 316.192 because you left out the most important part (inadvertently I'm sure) the intent. There needs to be a "willful and...

WOW! Such a short memory. They do this every Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year! Your point is?????????

Hey stupido, If he was doing over 120 mph for 7 minutes, he had to have traveled at least 14 miles. Not the 11 and them 12 miles baker watts has stated. Can your peanut brain understand this? HELLO!...

Hey stupido, If he was doing over 120 mph for 7 minutes, he had to have traveled at least 14 miles. Not the 11 and them 12 miles baker watts has stated. Can your peanut brain understand this? HELLO!...

Then again, maybe it is people like you who are the slim, trying to slander someone for doing their job! If you are trying to defend the Miami officers actions then you are pathetic!!!![/quote]
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Hey stupido, If he was doing over 120 mph for 7 minutes, he had to have traveled at least 14 miles. Not the 11 and them 12 miles baker watts has stated. Can your peanut brain understand this? HELLO!...

No Cry Babies, I'm disappointed in you. Perhaps you need to reread FSS 316.192 because you left out the most important part (inadvertently I'm sure) the intent. There needs to be a "willful and...

Hey stupido, If he was doing over 120 mph for 7 minutes, he had to have traveled at least 14 miles. Not the 11 and them 12 miles baker watts has stated. Can your peanut brain understand this? HELLO!...

Hart says he encountered Lopez in March of 2009, during evening rush hour on the same stretch of the Turnpike where Trooper Watts pulled him over. While Hart admits he’s not a perfect driver, he was...

Look here. Hmmmmm! Looks like it keeps getting deeper and deeper for Lopez and his defenders!

Hart says he encountered Lopez in March of 2009, during evening rush hour on the same stretch of the...

No other response to this drivel was required...

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LOL! Another intellectual heavy-weight I see.......NOT!!!!! ...

Wow! You have comprehension problems I see. Hmmmm.....let me look! Nope, no where do I see where I said at the same time. And I have news for you. If you worked at a real agency, you know what...

Oh, please forgive me dear "Guest." I meant discretion. Too bad your only response is to find spelling errors. Pitiful actually!!!! LMAO!!!!

Then again, maybe it is people like you who are the slim, trying to slander someone for doing their job! If you are trying to defend the Miami officers actions then you are pathetic!!!![/quote]
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I will not bore everyone with a long drawn out response as above!

North Florida Cop. All you are doing is making excuses for him that he has already tried to make! I am technically and legally...

Ever heard of fresh pursuit bonehead!!!! or, yyyeeeeeeee-hawwwww, yur a trooper???

car in ditch...check
flat tire, call wrecker...check
get coffee at la carreta...check
rat out other troopers...

Awww.....poor little "Guest." I am sorry you feel so insignificant and for your inadequacies. Believe me I am who I say I am. Speaking of I.Q's, you just showed that yours is just above a stump! ...

Awww.....poor little "Guest." I am sorry you feel so insignificant and for your inadequacies. Believe me I am who I say I am. Speaking of I.Q's, you just showed that yours is just above a stump! ...

Awww.....poor little "Guest." I am sorry you feel so insignificant and for your inadequacies. Believe me I am who I say I am. Speaking of I.Q's, you just showed that yours is just above a stump! ...

Bravo Guest! I am sorry to say, you will get no where with this bunch. I am a law enforcement officer and this bunch of South Florida Law Enforcement officers make me sick. With my debating them,...

Awww.....poor little "Guest." I am sorry you feel so insignificant and for your inadequacies. Believe me I am who I say I am. Speaking of I.Q's, you just showed that yours is just above a stump! ...

Awww.....poor little "Guest." I am sorry you feel so insignificant and for your inadequacies. Believe me I am who I say I am. Speaking of I.Q's, you just showed that yours is just above a stump! ...

P.S. I forgot. It was Officer Lopez that unduly endangered the public needlessly. Remember the case law on pursuits I posted for you? It applies to this as well. If something would have...

Here so fl cop. To jog your memory.

So that leads me to this question. How did she unduly endanger him needlessly as you put it???? What would Trooper Watts be convicted of??? Why would the...

I'm calling BS on your IQ claims, pathetic grand standing, and obviously inflated, save that for your paint by numbers watercoloring class you want to impress when your bow tie and reversible slacks...

Here so fl cop. To jog your memory.

So that leads me to this question. How did she unduly endanger him needlessly as you put it???? What would Trooper Watts be convicted of??? Why would the...

The Col was Bobby Knight. I can't remember the troopers name but I can see his face.

If you would pay attention, the more post you have the higher the rank you achieve on the site. It has nothing to do with the real world. WOW, what great investigative skills you must have.

It...

Here so fl cop. To jog your memory.

So that leads me to this question. How did she unduly endanger him needlessly as you put it???? What would Trooper Watts be convicted of??? Why would the...

Ok here are the questions. Again. But, we all know you won't answer. Again.[/quote:1k8fx6sg]

No wonder I didn't answer it. 90% of it is a statement and not a question! As stated before, I am not...

He's nothing more than a Baker Watts troll, grabbing his material off of his legal library and applying to his own clouded conclusions. But hey, 25 yr LE experience pushing pencils
who are we to...

Oh. Almost There. Please feel free to copy and paste any comment I have made that states that every marked patrol car must be stolen. Good luck and good hunting idiot!

Again, please copy and...

I am so sorry there "Almost There." Please ask your little question once again. I have answered every question asked that I know of. If I missed yours forgive me. If you want to see someone who...

Now who just got owned my other "Guest?" aka Miami PD Officer :lol:

Then again, maybe it is people like you who are the slim, trying to slander someone for doing their job! If you are trying to defend the Miami officers actions then you are pathetic!!!![/quote]
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Almost There you are seriously lacking the brain cells needed to prove any point whatsoever. When is not a good idea to draw your gun when you are not certain who is in the vehicle after an incident...

Try re-reading your post. You may want to rethink it. You admit, that people steal patrol cars from time to time. There was no BOLO. As in a couple of the articles I read, could it be possible...

Here is something for those who think the stolen police car theory is ridiculous. These are just in Florida this year.

3/21/11 - Riviera Beach, FL
3/30/11 - Jacksonville, FL
6/21/11 - Fort...

Please tell me how my logic is flawed Almost There. I guess you work in a perfect world (like the Walgreens commercial) where nothing like that ever happens. If you would actually take the time and...

Still waiting on an answer to my questions so fl cop! Okay, I made a mistake. At least I can admit it. I have proven you no nothing about the most important case laws an officer should know in...

Nice try there so fl cop. Please copy and repost where I said that you should automatically assume that the car is stolen. I said under the circumstances, it should be a consideration. So don't...

Good God man. Are you really that stupid. Please tell me you are acting....PLEASE!!!!!!

Garrity Warning, Police Bill of Rights, yada, yada, yada. Obviously I am and obviously you are a very bad...

Good lord. You people are unbelievable. You picked a good name. Almost There! Not quite but Almost! How long have you been doing this job? Have you been doing it long enough to hear about...

Dude. Your questions don't even make sense anymore. Are you really that flustered?

By the way. You never attempted to answer my questions I asked you. Guess you knew better than to even...

Under those same circumstances viewed on the video...Yes! If you don't, then maybe you should think about a career change! Oppsss. There we go again. Busted you on your Garrity warning BS, so now...

Good God man. Are you really that stupid. Please tell me you are acting....PLEASE!!!!!!

Garrity Warning, Police Bill of Rights, yada, yada, yada. Obviously I am and obviously you are a very bad...

Dude. Your questions don't even make sense anymore. Are you really that flustered?

By the way. You never attempted to answer my questions I asked you. Guess you knew better than to even try!

Good God man. Are you really that stupid. Please tell me you are acting....PLEASE!!!!!!

Garrity Warning, Police Bill of Rights, yada, yada, yada. Obviously I am and obviously you are a very bad...

Man. This is like shooting fish in a barrel. Seriously????? The Good Faith Exemption, also known as the Good Faith Doctrine has nothing to do with Color of Law. They are two separate things! The...

OMG! You are extremely desperate and grasping at straws. More so than the last dude was! You should write a sci-fi novel. This stupidly, ridiculous "what if" BS, is not even worth a response! I...

Good lord. You people are unbelievable. You picked a good name. Almost There! Not quite but Almost! How long have you been doing this job? Have you been doing it long enough to hear about...

Dear Guest. Go back and read my earlier post. YES! She had probable cause and I even gave the Statute 316.192. Based on your own comments and so fl cops, speeding, improper lane change, heavy...

He explained it in one of his famous lectures lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4m4lnj ... ata_player

And in case you missed it here's mr no more crybabies getting called for expert legal...

You are just now figuring that out? I have explained this to you on more than one occasion so fl cop. If she violated FHP pursuit policy then she will have to answer for that but it does not and...

Lopez was foolish, and Watts was uncalled for and disgraceful. But don't worry about Pencil pusher Mr.NoCryBabies. Too bad he doesnt put much effort into teaching common sense and discretion as he...

You really need to stop posting because you are showing how little you know. You claim and state that you have never defended Officer Lopez' actions, but your statements in your previous posts...

Lopez was foolish, and Watts was uncalled for and disgraceful. But don't worry about Pencil pusher Mr.NoCryBabies. Too bad he doesnt put much effort into teaching common sense and discretion as he...

Lopez was foolish, and Watts was uncalled for and disgraceful. But don't worry about Pencil pusher Mr.NoCryBabies. Too bad he doesnt put much effort into teaching common sense and discretion as he...

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Mr. No Cry Babies: VERY WELL SAID!!! (Sorry I didn't post it all)

I HATE the sh*tstorm for everyone involved (Trooper, Officer, all of Law Enforcement) but you're correct when you...

Lopez was foolish, and Watts was uncalled for and disgraceful. But don't worry about Pencil pusher Mr.NoCryBabies. Too bad he doesnt put much effort into teaching common sense and discretion as he...

Touchy, touchy there aren't we. Must have struck a nerve. You asked the questions and I answered them for you. Period! Well good for you. You do know a little about officer safety. If you do...

The Baker Watts even shackled him!![/quote]

Sorry. Just got in and read this. Will be long answers but way too easy!

Actually, I know quite a bit about it. I did not condone her approaching...

Actually it isn't as hard as you think to get a warrant nowadays for cyber world.

Awwww...did I strike a nerve. I guess so. If I were trying to play cop and not a cop as you are inferring, isn't...

Dude. You are seriously an idiot. Fresh out of the academy huh? Actually that statement does constitute a threat in the context it was used. In matters of law, the context of how a statement is...

Well, since people such as you like to register yourself as Guest it could be you or one of the other 10 idiots. Let's see, I've read anything from threatening to shoot her, to calling my boys...

I hope they do to. This way I can Sue them for violating my civil rights and get a huge payout at the expense of the tax payer, and never have to work again.[/quote]

So now you have shown just how...

From a real law enforcement officer to all of you so-called police officers making threats and trying to sound like such bad-asses. You all disgust me! You do not deserve to wear the badge for you...

Then again, maybe it is people like you who are the slim, trying to slander someone for doing their job! If you are trying to defend the Miami officers actions then you are pathetic!!!![/quote]
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Actually you have proven nothing but your ignorance.

Look at the video and listen. You can look at the video and visually estimate the speed if you know what you are doing. I tend to believe...

Guest. Please feel free to repost and/or forward to the editor of the Herald. I am so tired of hearing such trash talk from unprofessional officers. They give the honest, hard working, and law...

Then again, maybe it is people like you who are the slime, trying to slander someone for doing their job! If you are trying to defend the Miami officers actions then you are pathetic!!!!

Obviuosly, you do not realize that you do not have the authority to do that! Even if you were her supervisor, you cannot unarrest or tell her not to arrest someone. Even another officer.

It is...

I have been in law enforcement for 24 years. I cannot believe there are other officers defending the actions of this idiot Miami officer driving 120 MPH to an off duty detail. And then to top it off,...

I have been in law enforcement for 24 years. I cannot believe there are other officers defending the actions of this idiot Miami officer driving 120 MPH to an off duty detail. And then to top it...

Does any one know what language this idiot is speaking???????? It sure isn't english! Dude, school, education, proper grammer. Ever hear of any of those???? You must be a CO!!!!!

Actually I have alot more than a GED. However, I agree with you. This topic has become very boring. No one can refute what I and some others have posted. Be careful about spouting out about...

The proper word you are looking for is "THAN" not then. And the proper use of "your" is "YOU'RE" in the context that you are using it. Geez, our education system is putting out some real winners. ...

LMAO!!! D.E.A = Didn't Earn Anything! Please then Mr. DEA, put your vast knowledge to the test about law enforcement. I promise you, I have forgotten more about law enforcement while typing this...

You have really picked a good name for yourself because with each post, you are definitely proving that you are STUPID! Read your post carefully. You made 2 warrantless arrests on a person who was...

Nice story. Obviously you weren't smart enough to sue them.

WOW! You finally fricking get it. You have a wide range of control ONLY over those you supervise! If you do not supervise them, they can commit a crime in front of you and you cannot do sh*t...

LOL! Keep on fantasizing there STUPID! A CPO hasn't got the balls to come in my house. Especially if I am there. What is your policy? Oh, If they start resisting leave! In other words, tuck your...

Sorry buddy I have to take the PO's side on this. I actually do have a 4 year degree. I work for Miami PD and most have HS diplomas or a 2 year. Most of the State PO's I know have Masters degrees and...

Sorry buddy I have to take the PO's side on this. I actually do have a 4 year degree. I work for Miami PD and most have HS diplomas or a 2 year. Most of the State PO's I know have Masters degrees and...

LOL! I guess the Guest has not looked at CJSTC requirements lately. FACT: CPO's DO NOT meet the requirements to be a law enforcement officer. That is why State Statue defines them as two SEPARATE...

Really Guest. Come to my agency and try to get a job without a degree and you will be sent packing. You will be sent packing. The majority of agencies do require a degree. Again, don't hang your...

Please question away dear Guest. Like I said, you work in a district that the District Supervisor/Manager actually lets you do you job. Too bad it isn't that way every where in the State. Such...

Actually, I have more than a clue. Again, it depends on the district you are in whether you are allowed to "pick up" your offenders. Most were not cops! A cop couldn't go and do the boring work...

Actually, you have real law enforcement officers mixed up with volunteer meter maids! Your comments are very laughable. Are there good folks working as CO's and CPO's? Yes! Could they cross over?...

Very dramatic and good speech there Good Grief! Actually, I know all to well what correctional officers and probation officers do for a living. I have many friends that work in both! However, that...

You should lose high risk because you do not earn it! Co's do not have arrest powers! CPO's do have arrest powers but only for the person they are supervising. CPO's do not have authority over any...

I am not an employee of D.E.P. You couldn't pay me enough to work there. As usual, why doesn't it surprise me that you don't know how to access the records or realize you have to have certain...

He is still under investigation with ABT (pull up ATMS and you will see). He hauled ass because he saw the writing on the wall. He comes mainly from a corrections background and knows nothing about...

Not afraid to use the name since you offered it.

Lt. Peters is a liar, a problem and an ugly mother****er. He's probably looking at a lawsuit when he gets back from wherever (he says) he is.
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He didn't get fired, he quit! You think the new guy will be an improvement...LOL! From what I hear, he is like you. A back-stabbing do nothing with major little-big-man syndrome. It is also my...

No secret! I'll give you a hint. I work in Florida. Now use your king law enforcement investigative skills to figure out the rest. I need a few good laughs everyday, so I come and visit this...

Yep. Always that way when I read crap from supposed cops who shouldn't be cops! If they don't want to do what is required of them to mantain their proficiency and standards, go find another job...

Sorry Nemo the Clown Fish...your wrong as usual. I'm not running scared at all! He was not my boss. I do not work for DEP and haven't the slightest desire to do so! I work for a real law...

LFN...is that really the best you can do???? I'm really disappointed in you....LMAO!

Keep dreaming of getting rid of the training center. Sorry folks...you are still going to be required to train...like it or not. LMAO!!!!!!!

Look NoWhineZone, it took them almost a month to think of a reply and to figure out how to spell everything correctly. Now that is thinking on your feet quickly.....LOL! They just don't get it! ...

If you are sworn law enforcement you do.[/quote]

You don't, learn how to work the system rookie!

I been here since the DNR days, never done it, never will.[/quote]

Then either you are not...

ONLY ONE WAS TRUE INJURY, I seem to know a DEP officer whom was transported and was out of work for weeks because of idiot moves. Hey do your homework before you run your suk. Training is one...

If you are sworn law enforcement you do.

Dear Guest,
Your ignorance is amazing! Don't have a taste for koolaid like you and so many others do. I am extremely seasoned on the mats and no, not wrestling but martial artist. As far as records,...

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Man, you arrogant JA's sure do have alot to say. My experience as a real law enforcement officer makes you know-it-all's look like Paul Blart. It is obvious that you train in the same sloppy,...

Well said Friend!

That's funny. I thought only REAL cops worked off duty details. I guess you have them fooled just as you are fooling yourself that you are a real cop. I'm not planning anything in Quincy (where...

No, just busy burning up leave time working off duty details. We don't really care what your planning at Quincy just don't spoil our off duty.

Gotta get back to my road project and watch another...

Hey NoWhineZone, I think we have shut the stupid ones up!!!!!!

Hey NoWhineZone, I think we have shut the stupid ones up!!!!!!

Hey NoWhineZone, I think we have shut the stupid ones up!!!!!!

Most officers hope you will soon return to the Marine Corp or whatever hole they pulled you from. We don't fight drunks and chase bank robbers, just make sure the pup stays on the leash and nobody...

As an in-service trainer, I understand his quote perfectly. It is the CRY BABIES and do nothing but put my hours in and get a pay check lazy, fat asses that don't. I have said that same thing...

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WOW! I have been reading some of these posts in here and I can't believe what I am reading. Does D.E.P. really have so many CRY BABIES? From what I have been...

WOW! I have been reading some of these posts in here and I can't believe what I am reading. Does D.E.P. really have so many CRY BABIES? From what I have been reading I guess so. From what I have...