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first, not all senior deputies are whiners. i have worked with some great senior deputies that have gone above and beyond helping newer people. sucks that most do nothing but cry about how good...

for those unhappy senior deputies, you have no one to blame but yourselves. you guys constantly cry on here about how bad it is but why havent you tried to get yourselves into positions to make a...

trust me, i am far from a company man but i am realistic. 12's are best for the agency whether anyone here wants to admit it. as far as "respecting" seniority, i show respect (i try anyways) based...

sorry your LT only alows 2 off but ours allows 4. I am only a 7 year dep and only once have i not been allowed the vacation i bid for. yes after the bid starts days off become scarce but with all...

if the senior people are planning on leaving due to 12's then they are only screwing themselves. when south went to 12's the main arguement was THEY wanted THEIR weekends and that THEY are losing...

bout friggin time we went to 12's!!! the only drawback is childcare, but you gotta remember that we work for an agency that is supposed to work for the people of pinellas county. therefore due to...

you should see our long sleeve shirts, i look so much like a real cop, man i bet i can get out of even more tickets now plus freebies woohoo!!!



so if i become a real cop like you i can do...

one thing we have to remember is that we jailers cant just go anywhere we want with a gun whereas a LEO who is authorized to fulfill their LEO duties can. for example a LEO can carry a gun to a...

i know its an old subject, but this board is getting boring. :devil:

:snicker: :snicker: :snicker: :snicker: now thats some funny shiz! :snicker: :snicker: :snicker: :snicker:

are you sure they were detention? the only members of detention that are allowed to carry off compound (to the best of my knowledge)is hospital, transport, and training staff. personally i cant...

first off, if you are a jailer and carrying a gun in uniform then you are begging to get fired. second, if you decide to go somewhere in uniform then be smart. dont go on shopping trips and try not...

training did say that they plan on asking her to clarify. till then do what you feel comfortable doing and be ready to justify if need be.

the memo issued by the major in regards to using the taser on ICE inmates at no time states that you can not use the taser. it simply stated that it will not be our "practice" to use it and we will...

after the example set by the sheriff and the fop i dont think you could convince enough people in the jail to vote for representation. would be nice to have a chance to have some say but with this...

is there a place near by that i can get a handcuff key? i live in crystal river and am in need of a new key. preferably a 4" pocket key. thanks in advance.

at the jail on 12s we show up to sign in and find out where we are assigned and then have to be on post by the beggining of shift.

ol timer, thats like saying a female road officer shouldnt respond to a dangerous call, but instead should just bring coffee to the males who can do the job better. :roll:

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hey mod, lemme...

you post an article about a slain corrections officer but concentrate on the fact that it was a female and that is the reason she died. trust me if it was a male officer at charlotte he would have...

and your intelligence and knowledge continues to show. :wink:

do you scour the internet for LEO related items? or just anti LEO stories? seriously get out and enjoy life! :roll:

because of posts like this where you have no road experience and plus people are just plain tired of you.

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you also embarass the he11 outta the rest of us! :oops:

Could try switching the LT's hours for south div in the jail to 4 tens and run south div with only 2 LTs. One for days and one for nights. Have Sgt.s pick up when ever there isnt a LT on duty. ...

Why not cut pay parity for everyone and save at least $6 million?! Patrol guards should earn the same as jail guards even though our job is less desirable.[/quote]

??? this is a joke post right? ...

i do agree about the PAT's. if my fatazz can do it :shock: , everyone should! yes it does suck that you were hired and let go on such short notice but be glad that you still have something. you...

dont be upset about the pay parity, you guys have finally caught up with the jail! :D

please, please say you arent a LEO! what an arrogant arse you are for having this attitude! its leo's like you that make us non leo's sick. you should be grateful for having a job especially in...

actually the sheriff has been treating us jailers fine. we get our raise and any perks the union gets we get. the sheriff is trying to make an example of the union and with the FOP being new to the...

so just like posting in here, you aint got the ballz to identify yourself, no matter how valid a point is that you think you are making. like me, you are not important enough to have powerful enough...

our LEO's are represented by the FOP and the jail has no representation. we typically get our raise in oct. and i believe the road only recently got their raise and with no retro. other concerns...

if you feel so strongly about this, why dont you write up a detailed memo outlining the pros and cons of having shift lt's? you may make a big difference within our agency and bring about the much...

ASU is being cut back also. just wait til next years raise/negotiations!

thats either SUPER BEAN or SUPER HACK to you!!!



now thats something you dont hear everyday :lol:

bottom line what is the big deal if we carry without a permit per state statutes? we can...

Accordingly, I am of the opinion that as an appointee or employee of the sheriff's office, a correctional officer who holds an active certification from the Criminal Justice Standards and Training...

collective bargaining isnt all its cracked up to be. just look at the road down here in pinellas. so far every bargaining session the sheriff tells them to pound sand and they do. hope things look...

However, nothing in this subsection shall be construed to limit the right of a law enforcement officer, correctional officer, or correctional probation officer to carry a concealed firearm off duty...

we are exempt, once again if you carry off duty you do not need a CCW but should carry your agency ID to prove you are an employed, certified jail guard. the most important thing to keep in mind is...

so lunging from the pro-straint safet chair in the direction of a deputy was not resisting but was just verbal? plus wasnt he being charged with batt on a LEO and resisting with violence? that...

790.052(1) However, nothing in this subsection shall be construed to limit the right of a law enforcement officer, correctional officer, or correctional probation officer to carry a concealed firearm...

how about agree to disagree. i will continue to carry wihout a permit especially when i am in the county on my own time. since it is not against the law i will not be arrested and if i am arrested...

that means the sheriff is not authorizing us to carry therefore not accepting liability for our actions. if we do chose to carry then it is as a citizen not as a deputy.

or it can be read as such...

However, nothing in this subsection shall be construed to limit the right of a law enforcement officer, correctional officer, or correctional probation officer to carry a concealed firearm off duty...

again this is from the pba roll call rag that we get.



this is what i have posted in the past under Jailer-4-Life.



was a previous posting on sonet by me.

ya so if you get arrested dont you dare ask for a staff tray, cleaning supplies for your cell, extra blankets, food or even dayroom time if you are in a single cell! dadgummit we will learn you...

we are exempt, once again if you carry off duty you do not need a CCW but should carry your agency ID to prove you are an employed, certified jail guard. the most important thing to keep in mind is...

you are missing the point here, its not about a female working alone. if you have issues working with females then you are still behind the times. if you ever have worked south div, then it would...

its also jail guards who post negative stories on a regular basis on this site that increase the animosity also.

oh and jailers who post about the pay :wink:

so what would lead to an arrest without violence charge but no other charges? i have seen this before and curious. plus, that pic is some funny shizz!

look i understand about now wanting the lecture, but why post on here about gettin pulled over? its like an inmate crying that they didnt get toilet paper cause they told the dep to F off. you made...

DO NOT!!! :P

he did it on camera :roll:

that explains it. disgruntled former jail guard who probably didnt make to our road nor through another agency FTO. then got turned down when you re-applied to the jail? or did you leave on such...

and that CPD officer proves your point to the fullest. lets see, HCSO is under fire for a few uses that dont look good on camera(some were justifiable, others looked bad) so he goes and DRAGS a guy...

are you reffering to this article?




look it sounds like the guy was an @$$ and probably deserved to be dragged, but a little common sense goes a long way.

first, if he is being...

oh and then it must be the arrogant northern folks who are displaying their inferiority? woulda put that in my previous post but i am just a slow, southern, ****ry boy.

not one to jump in an arguement i dont belong in :shock: but if its the northeners that made florida grow, then wouldnt it be the northerners that display their arrogance? i mean if florida is...

i meant medical staff but i do hope that HD goes to 12's also. be nice to have another 12 hr div to bid for. oh and still waiting for ol timer to prove my previous post wrong. who knows, i may have...

first lets keep the subjects in their proper place.
second, i believe my breakdown above explains how you would save on manpower per 24 hrs and a total for two weeks. and 12's never had 10%...

why dont the news compare injury/death stats from a taser to say an asp, a firearm or even empty hands. bottom line tasers save lives and prevent more injuries than most other methods.

still waitin for your response on 12 hr shifts and yes, they do save on man power which equals savings in money. but then again maybe its you with no debating skills.

ol' timer are you anti cop or something? you seem to scour the news for something to post about in the hopes that it makes LEO's look bad (yes i know, i am the one who posted about our pay, but it...

dayum!!! even a dumb jailer like me can read right through that one!!! :roll:

i agree that there is a less of a gang problem here, and i hope it stays this way. but when i was growing up in st pete, there were only 2 gangs on the north side. now you cant step in st pete...

just hope i make it the full 25!

i am from pinellas and still work there. i have noticed alot of people wearing red who live in the apt complex on citrus ave near us 19. i also noticed in dunnellons sweetbay graffiti in the...

wow was it your cruiser? :lol:

i believe that cca in citrus has had more issues with the jail than we do with ours. oh and didnt someone escape from us via an open window of a cruiser a little while back? :shock: dont remember...

if it was your business, how many times would you allow someone to steal from you? after a bit you too would want them to stop, and the best way to get people to stop would be to call the police and...

i meant 84 positions, my mistake. those darn 12's are killing me!

12's will save on staffing. the money savings were lost due to the ot they were paying. here is how 12's would save money and staffing using Echo as an example:

if we were still on 8 hr shifts...

if you look closely, you can see 20 mosquitoes holding a funeral in the background :lol:

actually i thought i got paid more for being dual certified but then i found out that it didnt pay more so i considered getting dual certified in case one day i wanted to be a baliff. but now i live...

please keep doing your job, without you there would be no me. personaly i could care less who gets paid more, just honestly never thought that corrections would make more than LEO. so much for the...

probably they always wanted to be cops and becoming a jailer is a way to get their foot in the door. we honestly have alot of jailers who would make great cops and if that is their goal then best of...

my job title in no way defines who i am. my friend i am just a husband, a father and a son. that is what really matters and that is what really defines who i am. for those who feel this job makes...

http://pcsoweb.com/pages/careers/job_description.html

DEPUTY $40,081.80 - $60,141.95 :x

DETENTION DEPUTY $41,284.32 - $67,143.03 :lol:

truly never thought i'd see the day!

maybe me and him outta fight it out for the title! it would be great for morale!

hey my morale is great!!! i love my job. but then again i work with mostly good people. sounds like the road has issues and alot of it stems from being union and having to work 8's. give 12's a...

ann dwyer on fox 13 news stated that he is getting paid $800 a week from his organization. must be time to resupply the funds. my guess is that if they did ask couey if they could enter his trailer...

he will be investigated internally and will more than likely be further punished. absolutley should be allowed to keep his job. he makes a mistake and should be fired? his job duties are not...

12's will save on staffing. the money savings were lost due to the ot they were paying. here is how 12's would save money and staffing using Echo as an example:

if we were still on 8 hr shifts...

lol surprised i havent heard anything negative about it yet. give it time and i'm sure someone will write it up. trust me, its not too hard to figure out who i am.

12's are supposed to save on staffing which is why south went 12's in the first place. but then again things will change 1000 times over before the next bid, so till then we will wait and see.

so i guess the sgts are wrong since that is where i heard it from. or maybe i miss understood when they said its pretty official, north is going to 12's and they are looking at central also. we'll...

last i heard is North div in the jail will be joining us for 12's and that Central may be soon to follow. will the road be next? we'll see!

it sucks that we are looking for ways to snitch each other out. if you have a myspace, better set your settings accordingly just in case you put something on there that may offend someone somewhere.

oooh that tricky, tricky ****y! i musta had a few to many black labels dis mornin from the monkey bar :oops:

Beer is bear??? seems like i made a friend!

maybe HCSO has different policies than us, but in 7 years i have never dumped anyone from a wheelchair, wanted to but never did. the dep screwed up big time and will lose her retirement as a result....

the problem ol timer is that you are an onpinionated arse who feels the need to post on every available subject whether or not it relates to you or our jail. you post about the kid getting arested...

this is just in response to jail and road ol timer:
this was taken from the PBA publication Roll Call

under an exemption granted officers in the concealed firearms license law, an officer can...

jail oltimer, since you agree that we should identify ourselves then why dont you? let me guess, people already know what an idiot you are and this would confirm it!

now that there are witnesses coming to the defense of the officer, stating that he was very patient in his dealing with her and her attorney stating that she did make comments she may wish she hadnt...

What threat does a 75 year old lady pose to the citizens of Pinellas County?

the way the old folks drive in pinellas scares the hell outta most citizens!!! i think he did the citizens a favor, ...

well sounds like there are witnesses backing up the cop on this one. loved the attorney statement that she said things she shouldnt have but she still shouldnt have been arrested. what a country we...

is there a gun store in the area that is resonable? looking for an affordable handgun that i can carry. also have a gun that needs to be looked at. i do work for the pinellas county sheriffs...

and i thought i was good at stating the obvious. ol'timer, try and not posting for a bit. ok its a beautiful world out there, go away.

wow who got your knickers in a twist? no one even said they had arrest powers. plus i seem to remember reading awhile back about a, what are they called again? perp? 10-15? well i'll just go with...

well just got the newest edition of Roll Call from the PBA and there is a great article in there on this subject. heres what it says,

under an exemption granted officers in the concealed firearms...

hey ol'timer, dont judge the road by the posters on here. this is just a website, most dont act the way they post. oh and if anyone wants to read the report you can find it on baynews9.com. just...

you guys actually check your suggestion box? man you guys have it so good!

bottom line is the lady probably got all upset cause the cop told her to move. if, according to the paper and what is written here, she had just moved a little in order to allow cars to pass this...