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11-13-2006, 06:25 PM
I have being working for this dept for about 8yrs, and put in multiple memos reference getting a laptop. And continuously getting denied for whatever reason(s). However, I am seeing ofc on mids who just got off probation a few months ago with a laptop. Any IT person who can explain, or is it who u know?

11-14-2006, 12:14 AM
If you have been here 8 yrs. you should know everything is based on who you know. I don't agree, but thats reality.....

11-15-2006, 11:38 PM
they asked the brass on each shift to give them names of proactive officers who deserved them.

11-17-2006, 03:55 PM
MBPD is suposed to be the "elite" police dept in at least fl. Then, why cant we all get computers, at least for ofc safety and also to avoid spending too much time on the info chanel. I guess we are the only dept because agencies such as Nmiami Bch, Nmiami, Metro, Homestead, FLcity and others provide laptops for their ofcs.

12-04-2006, 04:44 PM
Slow down,

as Burgers $6.81 said
Everthing that happens in miami beach is by design or complete incompitance.

Do you think Seniortiy matters here? NOPE thats why the FOP is so weak beacuse we don't honor seniority.

If I were you I would ask both the FOP potential presidents how they are going to enforce Senority.
look at the joke of shft man power the last two years . All the senior officers that retired , the sports got moved to make a 4th shift
nut and shell game and all the officers who were patiently waiting for those slots got screwed over. Senority matters not. nothing changes So dont worrie about your laptop
So now they will monitor the usage to see whos not using it and switch them arround.
instead of making more work for the brass why not just assign them to every one like PPE gear etc.....
why do we have to re invent the wheel on every issue

12-04-2006, 04:54 PM
Yes I recall the "nut and shell" game of shift man power that you speak of.

what a thoughless crime to all the officer who over the years waited that turn in line for the spot with weekends off. They waited in line for years only to get slapped in the face buy brass that already has weekends off who molested the scedule.
and they cited "managment rights"
really? well as I see it I can't qualify of CERT now that you havent allowed me to take my turn to get weekends off beacuse you wrongfully abolished the postions.
Thats not managment rights .
Senority is a bad joke here it applies to some when its convenient to some..
an example of bad managment or as you say incompitance by design.
Thanks for taking away from me the chance to work CERT and the slapp in the face I get for patiently standing in line for years to get weekends off with my family, so that you can play the nut shell game.
tell me are you going to bring back those numerous squads you destroyed when we hire more cops this next time arround?
of course you wont

12-27-2006, 03:55 AM
BLUE, YOU ARE THE REASON MOD WANTS TO TAKE DOWN THE MBPD BLOG OFF LEO AFFAIRS. NOTHING YOU SAID WAS POSITIVE OR CONSTRUCTIVE. I WISH YOU WELL AND HOPE YOU CAN FIND PEACE :)

12-27-2006, 04:30 AM
unfortunately if things were done equally when capable of it there wouldn't be the problems

12-27-2006, 08:20 PM
8 yr off, try a yoga class. It may help with developing inner peace.

12-29-2006, 06:22 PM
There are less than 50 laptops and over 380 Officers. All patrol Sgt's have one, how many does that leave for us??? And how do you propose they be distributed? If I remember correctly, when they first came out, NOBODY wanted them because you had to take a class, and because you'd be responsible for it. Now, all of a sudden, people want them distributed by seniority because they don't like someone else who got one. Well you won't have to worry for much longer, by 2007 or 2008, we should have the new system up and running with computerized reports and everything. Sgt. Hernandez will be running the laptop program again, so I think things will be done right.

Instead of bickering about who did and who didn't get a laptop, lets talk about things they could incorporate into the new system to make it work better.

12-29-2006, 06:39 PM
HOW ABOUT INTERESTED OFFICERS DROP A MEMO BY A CERTAIN DATE. NOW THIS MAY BE TRICKY, BUT HERE GOES. HAVE THE SGT. OR LT. IN CHARGE LAPTOPS, THEMSELVES PULL THE CAD REPORT OF EACH INTERESTED OFFICER'S PAST YEAR OR EVEN 6 MONTHS HISTORY OF RUNNING 38'S, 24'S, 23'S, ETC. IF TOO MUCH, ASSIGN IT TO INTERESTED OFICER'S SGT. OR LT. TO PULL THE CAD HISTORY. AT LEAST THIS WILL SHOW INTERESTED OFFICER'S ACTIVITY/SELF INITIATIVENESS/ETC. AT LEAST ONE CAN HAVE SOME SORT OF LIST AND BREAKDOWN TO MAKE A DECISION ON SOME LEGITIMATE BASIS? NO? JUST AN IDEA. MAY WEED OUT THE ZERO'S OR FAVORITES WHO JUST WANT ONE TO HAVE ONE. THEN DEFINATELY RUN CAD CHECKS ON ALREADY ISSUED LAPTOPS...ONES THAT DON'T USE RE-ASSIGN TO ONES WHO WILL...BUT AGAIN THIS MAY MAKE SENSE AND IS COMMING FROM A COMMON GRUNT FROM 3RD HERD :)
STAY SAFE EVERONE.......

12-30-2006, 09:06 AM
GUEST, THAT IS THE BEST IDEA I HAVE HEARD YET!!! AND WHILE WE ARE AT IT I THINK THAT THE E-TICKET SHOULD HAVE THE SAME REQUIREMENT! IMAGINE THE POSSIBILITIES IF THE PEOPLE THAT WORK STARTED GETTING REWARDED AND THOSE THAT JUST SKATE BY OR THAT JUST USE THE LAPTOP TO SEE WHAT'S HOLDING GET THEIR'S TAKEN AWAY!

OH YEAH, AND JUST ONE MORE THING, MAYBE THEY SHOULD TRY AGAIN AND MAKE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE LAPTOPS A LITTLE MORE EQUAL, AND EITHER GIVE EVERYONE ACCESS TO THE INTERNET OR TAKE IT AWAY FROM EVERYONE!

12-30-2006, 04:18 PM
You two are the perfect example of the problem around here. ME ME ME. Instead of saying, "That person shouldn't have a laptop, give it to me!" -Everyone should be saying, laptops serve an important role in doing our job, everyone should get one. You should be happy that at least some people have them and do not envy that. Greed and that ME FIRST attitude is part of the big problem around here.

12-31-2006, 11:39 AM
You two are the perfect example of the problem around here. ME ME ME. Instead of saying, "That person shouldn't have a laptop, give it to me!" -Everyone should be saying, laptops serve an important role in doing our job, everyone should get one. You should be happy that at least some people have them and do not envy that. Greed and that ME FIRST attitude is part of the big problem around here.
hey last guest your either an idiot or new or both...if you know how all pd's work, then you would know there isn't enough equipment for all..let the ones that prove themselves get the bennies and the known skaters get basics...it's called deserving clown.

12-31-2006, 05:15 PM
hey last guest your either an idiot or new or both...if you know how all pd's work, then you would know there isn't enough equipment for all..let the ones that prove themselves get the bennies and the known skaters get basics...it's called deserving clown.

Yeah, and I bet you deserve a laptop more than anyone else in the department. You are the best cop in the world and everyone else is a "zero." Everyone who has a laptop is a zero and the only good cops are the ones who don't get one. Also, eveyone should ask YOU who deserves a laptop because you are the only person qualified to be the laptop judge. If it doesn't go through you, then it's a wrong decision. As a matter of fact, maybe ALL department decisions should go through you from now on since you are obviously the smartest, fairest, and best qualified to hand out the "bennies" as you say. Thank you for making my point that the problem is people like you who are ME FIRST, ME FIRST, ME FIRST.

FURTHER, your argument is not with me, it's with previous posters who are arguing for laptops to be distributed by seniority. So what is it going to be? seniority, or you judging everyone's work habits? you decide. I'll sit back and watch as everyone tries to prove they deserve one more than anyone else (ME, ME, ME).

12-31-2006, 08:16 PM
if my argument isn't with you do not lash out at me.
and no i do not have a laptop.
but i know of guys who have them and do not utilize them. so if i am thinking about me me me, i'm not. i thought it was a good idea and only fair way to distribute them.
if a ofc will use efficiently-issue one
if a ofc will barely use it-issue one but on the bottom of list.
if there are enough laptops for everyone- then everyone gets one.
u need to see the big picture...
would u rather see a ofc that shmoozes brass or a actual worker get one? who do you think should get one first?

12-31-2006, 09:44 PM
Who cares about lap tops or anything else that deals with making the staff look good!Just ride and wave! Make sure you call me or send a message on this site the moment we cant hang at MANGO'S or TALK TO THE 33'S AT THE BEACH!!!
I LOVE THIS PLACE!OH AND YOU CAN HAVE MY LAP TOP,FOOLS!

12-31-2006, 10:21 PM
hey last guest your either an idiot or new or both...clown
Sorry if you felt lashed out at, I apologize. I got angry that you called me an idiot and a clown. Here is my point: There is absolutely no way that giving out laptops will be fair to everyone. Some want seniority, others want pro-activity to be the measure of who gets one. No matter what, someone will cry NO FAIR. So the big picture, in my opinion, is put your name on the list and wait. Eventually, everyone will have one, as someone said earlier. I'm willing to bet that on the day everyone gets one, some people will claim it's unfair because so and so got called to pick theirs up before them (remember when the first Tasers came in?). The laptops we have now stink anyways. They are over 4 years old and many of them are barely working. When they do work, there isn't much you can do on them. Run tags, run d/l's, do your logsheets, and see the dispatch screen. Other than that, they are pretty much useless. No local checks, no report writing, no QTH call history, no 17 diagrams. The new system should be able to do everything like other agencies have been doing for years. And everyone will have their own computer. Lets focus on the real problem, which is pressing to get laptops and a working system for EVERYONE, and not bicker amongst ourselves about who is more deserving because there is no way to agree on a system that everyone will think is fair.

01-01-2007, 08:07 AM
i hear you. we are all fed up at certain things. the main thing for me is that with all that is going on that is wrong and fixable by the sgt's up the chain of command they choose to be little pus...s and say, you are right, i know, BUT......just play the game"
ref the laptops, i would like to have one to run 23's and 24's...i don't need the internet. the sad thing is there are still laptops out there where ofc's don't utilize them!!!!

01-31-2007, 06:21 AM
with all the money in this department they cant get new laptops for everybody

01-31-2007, 08:25 PM
why dont you guys give some money to our police dept miami pd. stop arguing over petty things at least you guys get paid well.