Well will Chris be back????

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[Signal20]

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Yup got his job back today from what I hear. Hope he's ready for some OT. :twisted:


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welcome back chris!!!!!!!!
your next stanger!!!!!

So does that mean Hall loses his job? Since he "supposedly" saw everything? Was he ever planning on coming back anyway?

Ex-deputy can go back on the job
He vehemently denied accusations of hitting an inmate last summer. On Friday, a department appeals board withdrew the most serious allegations brought against him.
By THOMAS LAKE
Published June 24, 2006

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Detention Deputy Christopher Wolschon was fired in January after a Pasco County sheriff's investigator concluded he had roughed up an inmate and then lied about it.

Now he has been exonerated.

A department appeals board voted 4-1 Friday to withdraw the most serious charges against Wolschon. The decision means he will get his job back.

The hearing - the first of its kind during Sheriff Bob White's five years in office - offered a rare glimpse at the inner workings of the Land O'Lakes jail.

It illustrated the difficulty of digging out the truth in a matter where objective evidence is scarce.

And it put on public display the reluctance of rank-and-file law-enforcement officers to point the finger at each other, a phenomenon known to internal-affairs investigators as the Blue Wall of Silence.

The hearing took place Thursday and Friday in the County Commission chambers in New Port Richey before the sheriff's Career Service Appeals Board, an appointed panel made up of four deputies and one civilian. At issue was Wolschon's conduct last July 23 during a confrontation with Patrick Main, a 47-year-old convicted sex offender with a long history of complaints against deputies.

Wolschon, a detention deputy since 1999, was working the control room that morning when Main asked him to activate the showers. Fellow deputies testified that Main's request was laced with obscenities and that he called Wolschon fat.

In a move the jail's commander would later call an abandonment of his post, Wolschon left a trainee in charge of the control room and went to give Main a talking-to.

He removed Main from his cell and brought him into a vestibule area, sitting him down in a plastic chair for what detention deputies call a "counseling session." Main, who has bipolar disorder and a fused neck, said that Wolschon slapped him and twisted his body - charges that Wolschon vehemently denied.

As many as five other deputies are known to have seen at least part of the incident. But everyone seemed to remember it differently, and internal affairs investigator James Mallo testified that all who he interviewed changed their story at one time or another.

Two surveillance cameras were mounted in the vestibule, but they helped little: One faced a pillar that blocked the view of the chair, and the other had been improperly installed so that it slanted away from the action.

For Wolschon, however, the fuzzy, silent footage did provide one advantage. It showed him pulling Main out of the cell pod into the vestibule, and when the agency's lead training officer in the use of force saw it, he declared the level of force appropriate.

Wolschon's attorney, former Sheriff's Office narcotics investigator Kerry O'Connor, built much of her case around an attack on Mallo's investigation. On Thursday afternoon, detention Deputy Theresa Rivera said Mallo had used veiled threats while interrogating her.

"I was made to feel as though, if I did not answer in a certain manner, in a certain way, that my career would be terminated," Rivera said.

Wolschon's wife, Lisa, sat a few feet behind his table during both days of the hearing. As the panel made its vindicating vote, she burst into tears.

"Now we can get on with our lives," she said.

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Appeal Board Reinstates Jail Deputy Fired For Force
NEW PORT RICHEY - It has been six long months since Christopher Wolschon was fired as a Pasco County corrections deputy, and now, after two days of fighting, he's back.

With no group discussion, and only 10 minutes of personal deliberation after closing arguments, the board reviewing Wolschon's termination voted to reinstate him.

"It's just so emotional," he said of the outcome. "I lost my confidence in the system. ... I'm going to go back with a more positive attitude."

Wolschon, 31, was fired in January after an in-house investigation determined he used unnecessary force with a Land O' Lakes jail inmate and later lied about it.

The investigation stemmed from a complaint filed by Patrick Main, who is awaiting prosecution on charges of capital sexual battery and failure to register as a sexual offender for a past conviction.

Wolschon testified Friday that Main asked him July 23 to turn on water for the showers. When he said he would do it when he got around to it, Wolschon said, a shouting match erupted. Why and how the argument became so heated and what exactly was said depends on who is giving the account.

Wanting to deal with the problem head on, Wolschon left his post to an officer in training and marched to Main's cell.

"I was going to confront him," Wolschon said.

What happened next is even hazier.

Wolschon testified that, based on strict guidelines, he used appropriate force in taking Main to another room to discuss the situation.

Main, however, painted a different picture Thursday when he told board members that Wolschon was tossing him "like a little puppet."

He also alleged in the complaint that Wolschon hit and poked him numerous times.

Although two cameras were present in the room where Wolschon took Main, one was not aligned properly, blocking any view of the two men; the other showed Wolschon escorting Main, holding him under the arm, to a chair.

Regardless of what took place, the internal affairs review concluded that Wolschon used excessive force and was not forthcoming with investigator James Malo.

Kerry O'Connor, Wolschon's attorney, argued throughout the two-day hearing that the investigation was flawed. She told the board in her closing statement that Malo "had his own idea" about what happened.

The one piece of testimony that bothered her the most, O'Connor said, came from corrections deputy Theresa Rivera. She said she feared losing her job if she didn't give Malo the right answers.

Added to that were inconsistent transcripts that O'Connor said showed people were able to change their testimony throughout the investigation.

"The fact that they got a do-over in that situation, I don't think is appropriate," she said after the hearing. "The truth is the truth."

Opposing lawyer Wayne Helsby argued in his final statement that Wolschon lacked two characteristics essential in a sheriff's employee: good judgment and integrity.

"Deputy Wolschon failed the sheriff on both counts," Helsby said.

He argued that Wolschon's confrontation with another jail guard earlier in the day left him in a combative mood, leading to a series of poor decisions.

The Career Service Appeal Board, made up of one citizen and four sheriff's employees, voted separately on the two infractions - using excessive force and lying during the investigation. Both votes were 4-1 to overturn the violations.

Board members declined to talk about the votes afterward.

When Wolschon will return to work and in what capacity has not been decided, and the matter of back pay still has to be discussed by the attorneys, sheriff's office spokesman Kevin Doll said.

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So does that mean Hall loses his job? Since he "supposedly" saw everything? Was he ever planning on coming back anyway?

From the people who were at the board, they said Hall quit.

what the he!l are you two talking about?

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When Wolschon will return to work and in what capacity has not been decided, and the matter of back pay still has to be discussed by the attorneys, sheriff's office spokesman Kevin Doll said.

July 3rd for Wolschon, July 10th for Stanger.

The administration did not just give anyone their job back, and there was no "horrible clickish mentality" involved. (Please dually note that you were quoted with correctly spelled words.) Before you talk trash, know what you're talking about.

Be safe.

The administration did not just give anyone their job back, and there was no "horrible clickish mentality" involved. (Please dually note that you were quoted with correctly spelled words.) Before you talk trash, know what you're talking about.

Be safe.

Ah, look. Just another Good ol' boy hard at work.

Thanks for the spell check. Working in the dark sometimes after long hours, I revert back to my days as a turn-key. You know, mindless etc...

[manmilk]

Ah, this is much better.

[manmilk]

Ah, this is much better.

[manmilk]

You-a wiww-a sign-a confession-a,Colonel Bradocka!!!!!!!

P.S. me-a, no-a, female-a. Yuo-a yankee-a dog-a!!


10-9

You-a wiww-a sign-a confession-a,Colonel Bradocka!!!!!!!

P.S. me-a, no-a, female-a. Yuo-a yankee-a dog-a!!


10-9

It is a reference to interrogations in a south east asain prison camp. Viet-Cong typically can't pronounce the letter "L" without it sounding like a "W." Therefore, refer to the green text above.

Colonel Braddock was the character Chuck Norris played in Missing in Action. It is a slam on the interviews conducted by Mallo is my best guess.

The only criticism I have is the author of that is giving many people in here way too much credit towards their levels of intelligence to figure that out.

[manmilk]

You-a wiww-a sign-a confession-a,Colonel Bradocka!!!!!!!

P.S. me-a, no-a, female-a. Yuo-a yankee-a dog-a!!


10-9

It is a reference to interrogations in a south east asain prison camp. Viet-Cong typically can't pronounce the letter "L" without it sounding like a "W." Therefore, refer to the green text above.

Colonel Braddock was the character Chuck Norris played in Missing in Action. It is a slam on the interviews conducted by Mallo is my best guess.

The only criticism I have is the author of that is giving many people in here way too much credit towards their levels of intelligence to figure that out.

Intelligence? How about age playing a role?

[manmilk]

The administration did not just give anyone their job back, and there was no "horrible clickish mentality" involved. (Please dually note that you were quoted with correctly spelled words.) Before you talk trash, know what you're talking about.

Be safe.



"...know what you're talking about..."

Admin IS giving jobs back to both Rich and Chris. Facts I KNOW to bring me to this conclusion. Um, er...you may have missed this info above. They got their jobs back. You may have missed as to why they are getting their jobs back. They were found to be innocent. Why? Hall quit and couldn't state his case. The video? The one showing Rich talking to somebody on the phone and Chris escorting a 10-15 somewhere.

Thought this might help clear things up for you.

So true, but we do have some mature employees who are a waste of space here. I once thought it was complacency, but after further review, the official ruling in the field was overturned and it is now ruled laziness. (with a side of they just don't giva$hit)

The most disturbing issue I find is how the administration placed great weight in an investigation that was unable to stand up to the scrutiny of a career service appeal board. Regardless of how someone being interviewed "felt," the whole thing looked like a mess. The investigator and the administration now have a pair of black eyes, but at least they preserved the rights of the individual accused. I mean the individual detained for being a kiddy diddler. One thing is certain. The ones accused did not get treated with their rights preserved.

This falls squarely on the shoulders of the boss since the letterhead has his name printed on it. If an employee truly does something worthy of being terminated, at least have investigators capable of putting a case together that can stand up to the scrutiny. But when the investigator is in the position due to reasons other than investigative capabilities, the scrutiny extends beyond the investigation and onto the boss.

Remember this and tell all your friends who vote.

Hey, whats this I hear that the investigator and the main man himself know each other from something completely non-work related?

White in 08!

Gotta love good ole back stabbing Internal Affairs. Who appointed this stupid Mallo jerk? That retired on duty idiot Page or was it dumba$$ Sheriff White Himself?

what about the inspector who also builds all the sheriff's election signs and stores them at her house? :shock: Do you think that maybe that is a little odd considering that all investigations of this unit are to be fair and on neutral ground so that the administration can make the right choices?


HEHEHEHEHE ok these are true but fair and right choices :P

what about the inspector who also builds all the sheriff's election signs and stores them at her house? :shock: Do you think that maybe that is a little odd considering that all investigations of this unit are to be fair and on neutral ground so that the administration can make the right choices?


HEHEHEHEHE ok these are true but fair and right choices :P

Just for the record. I know her and I know DL and would trrust either to investigate me fairly. Inspector (who has treated me decent when I was looked at over there for a "customer complaint") also was placed in there under the last sheriff. Her track record is clean regarding investigating deputies impartially. As far as the signs go. I do agree it doesn't look impartial there. Didn't this guy tell the voters he was going to remove politics from the agency? Then when he was called on it for Charlie's commercial he said he meant not involving deputies in the sheriff race? Tappy Tappy Tappity Tap. Keep on dancing mr bojangles. He also had at least one sgt from patrol(mr), one new lt from admin command(ms) and a detective from the property crimes unit i mean professional standards/customer care unit(JM). all but (mr) went somewhere but (mr) has free reign annd involves himself in every deputy's business regardless of the deputy working for a different supervisor.

I want to thank everyone for their support and trust. I wouldn't have made it through the past year without the help of my friends, family, co-workers and MOST importantly my wonderful Attorney who knew right from wrong on day one. I've never been more thrilled to go back to work in my life. :D

Manmilk, much kudos on figuring out what I meant. You are right though, that was a bit steep for alot of folks at pasco, Although, you were wrong about it being intended for Det. Mallo. I wouldn't know him if I bumped into him in the hall. There are a few silly fellows that know what I was talking about, with the Colonel Bradock stuff. It was in reference to a fellow that no longer works for the agency, and I'm sure has a pretty good sense of humor. It won't take a genius to figure out who I am by my screen name, and I sure don't want anyone from I.A. finding my shannigans to be discordant or objectionable. This site is for silly fun, as well as the big stuff, is it not?

Love, Rollfast.

P.S. congrats to the two fellows on finding their way back to wonderful L.O.L.....they are both good guys.

Correction...Kudos to Dr. Phil. Manmilk just said I was stupid, shame on you Manmilk!!!!!

You are right though, I am stupid.

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Correction...Kudos to Dr. Phil. Manmilk just said I was stupid, shame on you Manmilk!!!!!

You are right though, I am stupid.

HUH? I never said you were stupid. I said "10-9". Did they go change the 10 codes since I left?

btw, rollfast, I do know who you are. :twisted: