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06-15-2006, 10:53 PM
If he truly believed that his fellow LEO was lying about his destination, why not get the info on his son and call the hospital AFTER LETTING THE LT GO!!
Then if the story doesn't check out, and you still feel like burning a fellow LEO, you can call the guys shift commander and tell him what the officer did. I think that would have been a better solution than: 1) writing a fellow LEO a ticket and 2) Doing this as his son lay dying.
That is the problem with some cops, they don't realize that we're not security guards. We have something called DISCRETION and we don't have to write everybody.

06-16-2006, 12:59 AM
Well said. How about this, escort the Lt. to his dying son like he should have done and not write a fellow LEO let alone one on the way to his dying son.

06-16-2006, 01:54 AM
First: Once stopped, the Lt. surely should not have been permitted to continue to drive 90 miles an hour on the highways in the Keys. He was a danger to himself and others.

Second: Escorting him was not the solution. The public is not alert to cars being escorted. When the marked car passes by, many drivers immediately return to the traffic lanes and are at risk for striking the escorted car.

WHAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED is that the trooper should have taken the Lt. into his car and then made a 10-18 run to the hospital. Since the trooper was not emotionally involved in the situation at the hospital he would have been a safer driver and could have made the run much more safely than the father. The father's car could have been recovered later. During the drive the trooper could have also had a conversation with the Lt. offering reassurance and support.

It would also have freed the Lt. up to get on his cell phone and stay in contact with someone at the hospital for updates on the condition of his son.

What a different outcome this would have resulted in this event! The trooper would have displayed compassion and support for a brother officer; to the credit and benefit of FHP.

And it goes without saying that a traffic ticket was totally inappropriate in this situation.

What a shame that the Lt. was treated like an ordinary offender rather than like a brother.

:(

06-16-2006, 03:32 AM
I have been reading page after page about how brothers don't write brothers etc.

I am PROUD of your post! Finally a police officer that thinks outside the box. We need more like you. Good job.

06-16-2006, 04:12 AM
First: Once stopped, the Lt. surely should not have been permitted to continue to drive 90 miles an hour on the highways in the Keys. He was a danger to himself and others.

Second: Escorting him was not the solution. The public is not alert to cars being escorted. When the marked car passes by, many drivers immediately return to the traffic lanes and are at risk for striking the escorted car.

WHAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED is that the trooper should have taken the Lt. into his car and then made a 10-18 run to the hospital. Since the trooper was not emotionally involved in the situation at the hospital he would have been a safer driver and could have made the run much more safely than the father. The father's car could have been recovered later. During the drive the trooper could have also had a conversation with the Lt. offering reassurance and support.

It would also have freed the Lt. up to get on his cell phone and stay in contact with someone at the hospital for updates on the condition of his son.

What a different outcome this would have resulted in this event! The trooper would have displayed compassion and support for a brother officer; to the credit and benefit of FHP.

And it goes without saying that a traffic ticket was totally inappropriate in this situation.

What a shame that the Lt. was treated like an ordinary offender rather than like a brother.

Wow! This is one sensible, clear-thinking state trooper. Please tell me that you are a supervisor! I hope you are!!
:(

06-16-2006, 01:42 PM
First: Once stopped, the Lt. surely should not have been permitted to continue to drive 90 miles an hour on the highways in the Keys. He was a danger to himself and others.

Second: Escorting him was not the solution. The public is not alert to cars being escorted. When the marked car passes by, many drivers immediately return to the traffic lanes and are at risk for striking the escorted car.

WHAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED is that the trooper should have taken the Lt. into his car and then made a 10-18 run to the hospital. Since the trooper was not emotionally involved in the situation at the hospital he would have been a safer driver and could have made the run much more safely than the father. The father's car could have been recovered later. During the drive the trooper could have also had a conversation with the Lt. offering reassurance and support.

It would also have freed the Lt. up to get on his cell phone and stay in contact with someone at the hospital for updates on the condition of his son.

What a different outcome this would have resulted in this event! The trooper would have displayed compassion and support for a brother officer; to the credit and benefit of FHP.

And it goes without saying that a traffic ticket was totally inappropriate in this situation.

What a shame that the Lt. was treated like an ordinary offender rather than like a brother.

:(

Spoken like a true brother in blue! Thank you and be safe. Some of us driving by you while you're on traffic stops are watching your back.

06-16-2006, 02:53 PM
Trooper Burgos put a BLACK EYE on FHP. What he did makes me furious. He will not have a friend left on the planet when everyone is aware of what he did. He was unprofessional. He was supposed to protect and serve, not bully and hinder. What good did he serve in doing what he did? I hope FHP sends a clear message to all that work for them that this was not in the interest of justice. This was not in the public interest. He should have had the Lt. ride with him, and taken him to the hospital forthwith. This was a genuine emergency. The Lt. may have had to donate blood or an organ to his son. When time is of the essence, a good cop knows what to do. Trooper Burgos has branded himself a trader and a fool. I hope he resigns, and does not reenter police work. Discretion is needed in police work. Trooper Burgos used very poor judgement. Shame on him!

Vulgarian
06-16-2006, 03:07 PM
I work with a bunch of good Troopers in Sarasota County. I don't think they would ever consider writing another LEO a UTC. Red was the only one we had donew here that would, and she got canned, thank God.

06-20-2006, 01:04 AM
well you never know :roll:

12-16-2007, 06:52 PM
:evil:

12-17-2007, 01:03 AM
To the Retired Lieutenant:

If you got a problem with Tpr, Burgos why don't you drive your @$$ on the 18 mile stretch to the keys in the morning at 85+ mph so he can stop you. An maybe you can talk to him then. He's a good friend of mine & all you guys bash him for that incident. What if Armando Bello ran you family off the highway into the swamp like shoulders that the 18 mile stretch has, would you still think the same way about the trooper. If Burgos was to stop you he would not write you a utc, believe me. Put this crap behind and move on. As for Trooper Burgos put a BLACK EYE on FHP, no FHP already has a black eye from these poor supervisors that the agency itself has. maybe your one of the crappy FHP supervisors that I'm talking about.

12-17-2007, 03:40 AM
Is it really necessary to dig up a post from last year and only add a :evil:
to it?