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04-23-2006, 01:03 AM
I believe the first crossover class would have just come off of probation. Is there anyone who knows if any of them have put in a request to go to the road? I understand that once they get approved to go to the road they still have to wait until the man power in the jail allows for it. Have they been approved to go once staffing permits?

Also, if they have had issues with there current assignment or attendance issues I understand why they will not be leaving the jail in the near future.

Thanks for any information.

04-24-2006, 10:05 AM
I dont think there are any cross overs on their way to Patrol yet. Not like Patrol does not have the room. THe hiring they are doing in the front office sure is crazy. They have let go too many people. The standards have been lowered to much and the people getting into FTO are struggling. Thank goodness you FTO's are weeding them out. :!:

04-26-2006, 06:35 AM
The first few of them have put in for transfer, but none have gotten to the "ready to go" list. Heck, people who have been on that list for 8 months are still waiting anyway.

A few of them have applied with other agencies and others are strongly considering it from what I have learned while talking to them.

04-26-2006, 07:16 AM
That is good information. It sounds like it is just a promise then. I guess since I do not have "life experience" meaning I screwed up my life prior to becoming 40 and then decided to start a new exciting career I am not good enough for the road right away.

Thanks for the explanation.

05-02-2006, 11:56 PM
Not necessarily, take a minute and call HR and find out first hand.
Things may be better than you think. :wink:

PSO Deputy
05-03-2006, 08:10 PM
Not necessarily, take a minute and call HR and find out first hand.
Things may be better than you think. :wink:

What is HR going to say that is any different from the information above. We are between 17 and 25 short depending on who you talk to. The top two (Howard and Monseguer) on the list have been on the list since August. Then Vavoulus who somehow cut in line last month. Followed by Carpenter, Voltagio and Woodruff all of whom put in within the last 6 weeks or so.

HR is telling those guys June/July but Captain Beckman said that the end of the year would be a more reasonable timeframe.

If you want to call HR, the number is 1-800-854-2862. I am sure they will be happy to tell you that after a year in the jail, you can feel free to request transfer to whatever you like. They will not make commitments.

05-03-2006, 08:43 PM
If it takes about year to get out once the transfer rquest is approved then that is not to bad. Once you get the approval at least you have the light at the end of the tunnel no matter how long that tunnel is.

Thanks.

05-03-2006, 10:22 PM
Does anyone know any information about a cross over from Detention to Le. I called WTI and they do not offer a cross over any more. Only the full boat and paying $2,000 plus, every weekend to take the full range course. OUCH! Any information that anyone can give would be great. Thanks!

PSO Deputy
05-04-2006, 07:48 AM
Does anyone know any information about a cross over from Detention to Le. I called WTI and they do not offer a cross over any more. Only the full boat and paying $2,000 plus, every weekend to take the full range course. OUCH! Any information that anyone can give would be great. Thanks!

I am not sure about a CORR to LE Crossover. I know that SEPSI in St. Pete still offers it, but thats not even close to WTI. PHCC may be offering it as well, but I am not sure.

tf2728
05-06-2006, 12:20 PM
PHCC is primarily offering the regular LE Academy and also the Crossover from LE to Crossover. From what we were told when we did the Crossover they only schedule the Crossover when PSO has a need for it.

05-22-2006, 02:36 AM
I dont think there are any cross overs on their way to Patrol yet. Not like Patrol does not have the room. THe hiring they are doing in the front office sure is crazy. They have let go too many people. The standards have been lowered to much and the people getting into FTO are struggling. Thank goodness you FTO's are weeding them out. :!:

The real problem is the FTO's and the program. If FTO's were training the trainees correctly you would see more passing the FTO program. Quite a few west side FTO's should not be training anyone. Certain FTO are very negative and thinks they are God and the trainee is dirt under their feet. FTO Sgt has a chip on his shoulder and if you are not liked by him or his FTO's you will never make it. Good luck if you go to the program on the west side. You will get the boot out the door and your chance forn a job in the law enforcement field is history.

05-22-2006, 09:00 PM
The FTO program is run just like the rest of the agency. The FTO's are run into the ground with little to no breaks month after month. Most of them don't want to train anymore but have too becuase they won't let them resign. Most to all became an FTO because they believed in it and wanted to do it for themselfs and promotions. But as usual here promotions are a popularity contest. The last guy to just get promoted wasn't even an FTO.....NICE...

05-25-2006, 05:12 PM
The FTO program is run just like the rest of the agency. The FTO's are run into the ground with little to no breaks month after month. Most of them don't want to train anymore but have too becuase they won't let them resign. Most to all became an FTO because they believed in it and wanted to do it for themselfs and promotions. But as usual here promotions are a popularity contest. The last guy to just get promoted wasn't even an FTO.....NICE...

Do you want to be an FTO at Pasco Sheriff's office? Just put in for it and your in. What on going training does an FTO get? The agency should give extra interpersonel skills because most of the FTO don't care about training the trainee. The FTO is happy to have some one drive them around all day while he tlks on his cell to friends or family. The problem with so many trainees not making the FTO program is the lack of quality training from the FTO's. FTO and trainee in 1st or 2nd phase go to JARF in pinellas, harbors or the jail. Trainee and FTO gets called back because of incorrect or incomplete paperwork, sounds like an FTO training issue. I have heard a corporal/FTO arrive 1st on scene to a red call S32 atempt man s-o with a gun and shots fired into the air. Dispatch is unable to reach FTO on the radio. Next unit on scene advised dispatch FTO's radio battery is dead but FTO is 10-04. Sonuds like one of Pasco's finest FTO's.