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Unregistered
09-12-2018, 01:58 PM
I guess it didn't go very well for the Union yesterday.

Unregistered
09-12-2018, 02:22 PM
Wrong again. It went very well. The sheriff and his people made a fool of themselves and never came back to the room after a break. They waived the mediation after wasting 2 hours of everyone’s time, so we are going in front of the.county in the next week or two. Also the union found more money the sheriff has been hiding. Details to follow very soon

Unregistered
09-12-2018, 05:25 PM
Wrong again. It went very well. The sheriff and his people made a fool of themselves and never came back to the room after a break. They waived the mediation after wasting 2 hours of everyone’s time, so we are going in front of the.county in the next week or two. Also the union found more money the sheriff has been hiding. Details to follow very soon

If true they need to bring in s team of forensic accountants and account for every damn penny. Enough of this shady bullish!t. Every penny!!!!!

Unregistered
09-12-2018, 05:32 PM
You can find all the money you want. It's up to the sheriff whether he gives it to us. We aren't going to get anything because of Jeff Bells antics.

Unregistered
09-12-2018, 05:54 PM
You can find all the money you want. It's up to the sheriff whether he gives it to us. We aren't going to get anything because of Jeff Bells antics.
Pay attention everyone. This is the kind of representation the PBA will provide: "Its up to the sheriff whether he gives it to us."

Hey PBA what kind of raise are we getting? "It's up to the sheriff..."

What kind of benefits? "It's up to the sheriff..."

Will I be protected? "It's up to the sheriff..."

With PBA representation you would be better off just paying the sheriff directly to represent you.

By the way it's actually up to the county commission now...not the sheriff.

Unregistered
09-12-2018, 06:26 PM
Pay attention everyone. This is the kind of representation the PBA will provide: "Its up to the sheriff whether he gives it to us."

Hey PBA what kind of raise are we getting? "It's up to the sheriff..."

What kind of benefits? "It's up to the sheriff..."

Will I be protected? "It's up to the sheriff..."

With PBA representation you would be better off just paying the sheriff directly to represent you.

By the way it's actually up to the county commission now...not the sheriff.

Which is why the PBA is long gone. Good riddance.

Unregistered
09-12-2018, 07:19 PM
Which is why the PBA is long gone. Good riddance.

Nooooooooope!!!!!! Pba will be back this year!!!!! Mark my words!!!! Lahiff and Anderson will be back screwing over the membership once again!!! Lahiff already sold his soul to the sheriff to get the pba back!!! I can’t wait to be sold out!!!

Unregistered
09-12-2018, 10:26 PM
Wrong again. It went very well. The sheriff and his people made a fool of themselves and never came back to the room after a break. They waived the mediation after wasting 2 hours of everyone’s time, so we are going in front of the.county in the next week or two. Also the union found more money the sheriff has been hiding. Details to follow very soon

Not true. Union entirely folded when they realized they had messed up their paperwork and had entirely forgotten to ask for the COLA (any COLA!!). And it turned out the longevity was outside the reopener so IUPA cannot even ask for it. Pretty embarrassing. Say what you want about Marciano and FOPE (or even PBA) ... but they wouldn't have messed up that badly. IUPA begged for the Sheriff to just let it go the County Commission for a final hearing. After all this time wasted, the money wasted on the accountant, we are going to get the same 3% (2.5 +0.5) they offered from the start, and not a penny more. Sad. Very sad.

Unregistered
09-12-2018, 10:30 PM
Nice try Ron.

Unregistered
09-12-2018, 10:40 PM
Not true. Union entirely folded when they realized they had messed up their paperwork and had entirely forgotten to ask for the COLA (any COLA!!). And it turned out the longevity was outside the reopener so IUPA cannot even ask for it. Pretty embarrassing. Say what you want about Marciano and FOPE (or even PBA) ... but they wouldn't have messed up that badly. IUPA begged for the Sheriff to just let it go the County Commission for a final hearing. After all this time wasted, the money wasted on the accountant, we are going to get the same 3% (2.5 +0.5) they offered from the start, and not a penny more. Sad. Very sad.

This is the Leo Affairs website.

I think you're looking for the Fiction Writer's website with this complete bull$hit you just posted.

Unregistered
09-12-2018, 10:50 PM
Not true. Union entirely folded when they realized they had messed up their paperwork and had entirely forgotten to ask for the COLA (any COLA!!). And it turned out the longevity was outside the reopener so IUPA cannot even ask for it. Pretty embarrassing. Say what you want about Marciano and FOPE (or even PBA) ... but they wouldn't have messed up that badly. IUPA begged for the Sheriff to just let it go the County Commission for a final hearing. After all this time wasted, the money wasted on the accountant, we are going to get the same 3% (2.5 +0.5) they offered from the start, and not a penny more. Sad. Very sad.

Don't believe it? Then wait for the County Commission hearing. It is televised live online (and the video is also archived/posted online afterwards). Sheriff's team will embarrass Bell and his team ... JUST LIKE IT SAYS ABOVE happened yesterday ... and you can watch it again and again. Then everyone will see it for themselves. And see how out of his league Bell is. And it will play out just like it says above. Bet the house on it!

Unregistered
09-12-2018, 11:38 PM
Not true. Union entirely folded when they realized they had messed up their paperwork and had entirely forgotten to ask for the COLA (any COLA!!). And it turned out the longevity was outside the reopener so IUPA cannot even ask for it. Pretty embarrassing. Say what you want about Marciano and FOPE (or even PBA) ... but they wouldn't have messed up that badly. IUPA begged for the Sheriff to just let it go the County Commission for a final hearing. After all this time wasted, the money wasted on the accountant, we are going to get the same 3% (2.5 +0.5) they offered from the start, and not a penny more. Sad. Very sad.

The PBA tard can actually count! Yes 2.5+.5=3 🤦*♂️.
Chances are us only getting the 3% is because the only thing was the cola for year 3, we will only get the 3% retro from Oct 1st and the longevity will be fought for in this new contract next month.

Unregistered
09-12-2018, 11:56 PM
PBA throwing all that they can out there, no matter how nonsensical, in desperation and fear, hoping something will stick but knowing that the end is near.

Unregistered
09-13-2018, 03:32 AM
Not true. Union entirely folded when they realized they had messed up their paperwork and had entirely forgotten to ask for the COLA (any COLA!!). And it t urned out the longevity was outside the reopener so IUPA cannot even ask for it. Pretty embarrassing. Say what you want about Marciano and FOPE (or even PBA) ... but they wouldn't have messed up that badly. IUPA begged for the Sheriff to just let it go the County Commission for a final hearing. After all this time wasted, the money wasted on the accountant, we are going to get the same 3% (2.5 +0.5) they offered from the start, and not a penny more. Sad. Very sad.

You my friend are so right, the PBA knows how to fill out and file documents, just look at PERC. Oh wait, they forged those. Obviously Marciano knows what he's doing, why you ask, because he asks the sheriff what the sheriff wants to give and he accepts it. Both of those are prime examples of those great unions. Not!

Unregistered
09-13-2018, 02:55 PM
IUPA's version of what happened yesterday is crap, it's total fiction. There was a court reporter there taking everything down. Ask Bell to release the transcript so the members can read it. He will n-e-v-e-r do that, as it would show he lied and IUPA's team got embarrassed at the hearing. They were the ones who begged to have it go to the County Commission so they can try to dig out of the legal mess they created. Demand the truth ... RELEASE THE TRANSCRIPT, BELL!!

Unregistered
09-13-2018, 03:41 PM
Like everyone else, I want the extra 2% raise after 20 years. However, if the County decides not to give it to us, then I am also OK with the 3%. I would rather have lost fighting than roll over like the PBA did every year. Win or not, it’s nice to see a Union actually sticking up for the Deputies.

Unregistered
09-13-2018, 04:20 PM
Like everyone else, I want the extra 2% raise after 20 years. However, if the County decides not to give it to us, then I am also OK with the 3%. I would rather have lost fighting than roll over like the PBA did every year. Win or not, it’s nice to see a Union actually sticking up for the Deputies.

Why would the sheriff give us more than the other Unions were offered and accepted?

Unregistered
09-13-2018, 04:26 PM
IUPA's version of what happened yesterday is crap, it's total fiction. There was a court reporter there taking everything down. Ask Bell to release the transcript so the members can read it. He will n-e-v-e-r do that, as it would show he lied and IUPA's team got embarrassed at the hearing. They were the ones who begged to have it go to the County Commission so they can try to dig out of the legal mess they created. Demand the truth ... RELEASE THE TRANSCRIPT, BELL!!

Your desperation is showing.

Unregistered
09-13-2018, 04:28 PM
IUPA's version of what happened yesterday is crap, it's total fiction. There was a court reporter there taking everything down. Ask Bell to release the transcript so the members can read it. He will n-e-v-e-r do that, as it would show he lied and IUPA's team got embarrassed at the hearing. They were the ones who begged to have it go to the County Commission so they can try to dig out of the legal mess they created. Demand the truth ... RELEASE THE TRANSCRIPT, BELL!!

no matter what happened, no matter what was said no matter what the mediator's decision was it still has
to go to the county commission

Unregistered
09-13-2018, 04:48 PM
IUPA's version of what happened yesterday is crap, it's total fiction. There was a court reporter there taking everything down. Ask Bell to release the transcript so the members can read it. He will n-e-v-e-r do that, as it would show he lied and IUPA's team got embarrassed at the hearing. They were the ones who begged to have it go to the County Commission so they can try to dig out of the legal mess they created. Demand the truth ... RELEASE THE TRANSCRIPT, BELL!!

Really, because Jeff Bell released an official statement on behalf of the union regarding the facts of the meeting. If management's recollection of events differs from the unions official statement, I'm pretty sure they can put out their own official statement to the staff. I mean its not like BSO doesn't have a whole media relations team who's entire job it is to release official statements.

But no, it's apparently a much better idea to use an anonymous PBA troll to disseminate the true "facts" of the meeting on a website that these same internet trolls constantly claim that: "there's only five people on here responding to their own posts."

PBA, not all the deputies here are the knuckle draggers you think we are. We can see through your BS from a mile away. Its why we kicked you to the curb once and will be excited to do again if one day you can get your PERC cards straight.

Unregistered
09-13-2018, 04:50 PM
Why would the sheriff give us more than the other Unions were offered and accepted?

Because our pay is way behind the other agencies in the area. It’s commmon sense. I guess that eluded him.

Unregistered
09-13-2018, 04:53 PM
Why would the sheriff give us more than the other Unions were offered and accepted?

Because the jail and the road are totally different jobs. Not to mention the jail gets unlimited overtime.

Unregistered
09-13-2018, 05:02 PM
Because the jail and the road are totally different jobs. Not to mention the jail gets unlimited overtime.

I haven't seen any homeless road guys either so take the three percent and be grateful.

Unregistered
09-13-2018, 05:30 PM
Really, because Jeff Bell released an official statement on behalf of the union regarding the facts of the meeting. If management's recollection of events differs from the unions official statement, I'm pretty sure they can put out their own official statement to the staff. I mean its not like BSO doesn't have a whole media relations team who's entire job it is to release official statements.

But no, it's apparently a much better idea to use an anonymous PBA troll to disseminate the true "facts" of the meeting on a website that these same internet trolls constantly claim that: "there's only five people on here responding to their own posts."

PBA, not all the deputies here are the knuckle draggers you think we are. We can see through your BS from a mile away. Its why we kicked you to the curb once and will be excited to do again if one day you can get your PERC cards straight.

Why should we take the word of Jeff Bell or the BSO Administration when we can read the court reporters transcript for ourselves. If Jeff Bell has nothing to hide release the transcript so all the DLE Deputies can see it. If Jeff Bell refuses to release the mediation transcript then he obviously has something to hide. The transcript when completed is public record. Anyone can file a119 records request and get a copy of it. Hey PBA if you guys are really looking to take the union back then maybe you should take the initiative and file the 119 records request and get the mediation transcript and make it available to all the DLE Deputies.

Unregistered
09-13-2018, 05:50 PM
Why should we take the word of Jeff Bell or the BSO Administration when we can read the court reporters transcript for ourselves. If Jeff Bell has nothing to hide release the transcript so all the DLE Deputies can see it. If Jeff Bell refuses to release the mediation transcript then he obviously has something to hide. The transcript when completed is public record. Anyone can file a119 records request and get a copy of it. Hey PBA if you guys are really looking to take the union back then maybe you should take the initiative and file the 119 records request and get the mediation transcript and make it available to all the DLE Deputies.

Haha.. PBA never filed anything !

Unregistered
09-13-2018, 06:07 PM
Why should we take the word of Jeff Bell or the BSO Administration when we can read the court reporters transcript for ourselves. If Jeff Bell has nothing to hide release the transcript so all the DLE Deputies can see it. If Jeff Bell refuses to release the mediation transcript then he obviously has something to hide. The transcript when completed is public record. Anyone can file a119 records request and get a copy of it. Hey PBA if you guys are really looking to take the union back then maybe you should take the initiative and file the 119 records request and get the mediation transcript and make it available to all the DLE Deputies.

A) Since it seems so important to you and you seem to know so much about it why don't you request the records and post it here Mr. Hero of the People?
My guess is its because nobody on either side of the issue would waste their time because there's nothing there to be seen. So you can continue unabated with your Alex Jones type conspiracy in complete safety from being outed by the truth.

B) It doesn't matter either way because it's going to the county commission in a week or two for final resolution.
But next you'll be telling us all that the upcoming commission meeting is a Jeff Bell lie as well.

Unregistered
09-13-2018, 09:39 PM
Haha.. PBA never filed anything !

The only thing they ever filed was to get their time back when they went to B.S. PBA meetings. And we all know how useless they were, right BOB!

Unregistered
09-15-2018, 09:29 PM
The only thing they ever filed was to get their time back when they went to B.S. PBA meetings. And we all know how useless they were, right BOB!

Correct!! Those few that want the PBA back are the ones that got their dues refunded every year.

Unregistered
09-15-2018, 11:26 PM
IUPA forgot to ask for a-n-y COLA of any amount in their paperwork. I'm sure we will get a COLA anyways because sheriff will try to come off as the good guy at the commission meeting by offering us the 3% he already gave everyone else. But he will do a victory lap by punching Bell for not asking for it. And that audit we spent all the money on pretty much means nothing ..... got us nothing. Smoke and mirrors.

Unregistered
09-16-2018, 01:47 PM
What a total mess this whole thing is !

Unregistered
09-17-2018, 04:38 PM
Why should we take the word of Jeff Bell or the BSO Administration when we can read the court reporters transcript for ourselves. If Jeff Bell has nothing to hide release the transcript so all the DLE Deputies can see it. If Jeff Bell refuses to release the mediation transcript then he obviously has something to hide. The transcript when completed is public record. Anyone can file a119 records request and get a copy of it. Hey PBA if you guys are really looking to take the union back then maybe you should take the initiative and file the 119 records request and get the mediation transcript and make it available to all the DLE Deputies.

Release the transcript from the mediation hearing!

Unregistered
09-17-2018, 05:29 PM
Release the transcript from the mediation hearing!

Keep trying PBA, its comical

Unregistered
09-17-2018, 07:12 PM
Why should we take the word of Jeff Bell or the BSO Administration when we can read the court reporters transcript for ourselves. If Jeff Bell has nothing to hide release the transcript so all the DLE Deputies can see it. If Jeff Bell refuses to release the mediation transcript then he obviously has something to hide. The transcript when completed is public record. Anyone can file a119 records request and get a copy of it. Hey PBA if you guys are really looking to take the union back then maybe you should take the initiative and file the 119 records request and get the mediation transcript and make it available to all the DLE Deputies.

If anyone can file a records request then maybe YOU should get right on that yourself, Mr. Key Board Hero, since you feel so strongly about it.

For the rest of us though, who can clearly see through their complete silence, that the administration doesn't dispute IUPA's statement regarding the events of the meeting.

But obviously we should defer to your fantasy musings on the matter instead.

Unregistered
09-17-2018, 08:26 PM
If anyone can file a records request then maybe YOU should get right on that yourself, Mr. Key Board Hero, since you feel so strongly about it.

For the rest of us though, who can clearly see through their complete silence, that the administration doesn't dispute IUPA's statement regarding the events of the meeting.

But obviously we should defer to your fantasy musings on the matter instead.

Dude, don't get all upset. It's just the PBA morons spreading their lies and confusing the rookies. All the veterans who've been around need to talk to the rookies about how the PBA works...lies, confusion and finger pointing with no accountability and no positive results!!! IUPA has done more for us than the PBA could ever dream of!!!!!!

Unregistered
09-17-2018, 08:38 PM
Beam me up Scotty

Unregistered
09-18-2018, 04:04 AM
This is the Leo Affairs website.

I think you're looking for the Fiction Writer's website with this complete bull$hit you just posted.

Confirmed. all true

Unregistered
09-18-2018, 04:06 AM
Bell is a retard. I don't care about PBA. Can we just elect someone who didn't learn how to run the union by watching the movie Hoffa.

Unregistered
09-18-2018, 04:41 AM
Bell is a retard. I don't care about PBA. Can we just elect someone who didn't learn how to run the union by watching the movie Hoffa.

Jeff keep up the great work. If you think you can do a better job than you should run for President if not STFU you POS!

Unregistered
09-18-2018, 03:43 PM
Jeff keep up the great work. If you think you can do a better job than you should run for President if not STFU you POS!

When is the election? Oh that's right, Jeff promised that the members would elect their Union president. Just another lie from Jeff Bell and his cronies.

Unregistered
09-18-2018, 08:37 PM
Thank you for all your hard work Bell ! Can anyone advise when the county will hear our case?

Unregistered
09-18-2018, 09:02 PM
When is the election? Oh that's right, Jeff promised that the members would elect their Union president. Just another lie from Jeff Bell and his cronies.

Haha another zinger from the vocal minority. We will soon be voting for who to endorse for governor. Something else that would have never occurred with the PBA.

Unregistered
09-19-2018, 02:01 AM
Haha another zinger from the vocal minority. We will soon be voting for who to endorse for governor. Something else that would have never occurred with the PBA.

But just like the PBA there will be no vote for president of IUPA or any of the executive board members for that matter. Same circus different clowns.

Unregistered
09-19-2018, 02:13 AM
But just like the PBA there will be no vote for president of IUPA or any of the executive board members for that matter. Same circus different clowns.

Hey clown shoes.... if you were an active member you'd know the election for our union president is every 4 years which means Bell's position is up for election in 2019. Who has the balls to do his job? Not me! Great job Jeff you have my vote!

Unregistered
09-19-2018, 02:27 AM
But just like the PBA there will be no vote for president of IUPA or any of the executive board members for that matter. Same circus different clowns.

Settle down slick IUPA has only been our Union for three years. Let Jeff at least serve out his term before you declare him king.

Unregistered
09-19-2018, 06:57 PM
Patience isna virtue