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Unregistered
09-11-2018, 08:13 PM
The city just strong armed them at the table So don't expect a good contract or lawsuit. Mr. President just got raped by the City and the City is ready for round two. Maybe if he wasn't so busy working 46's he'd have time to fight more for our benefits. Such Amateurs negotiating when will they learn

Unregistered
09-11-2018, 08:27 PM
Lugo was asleep in the back of the room and didn't hear the conversation. LMAO

Unregistered
09-11-2018, 08:30 PM
Not what I heard but go back to your calls. Calls holding little people

Unregistered
09-11-2018, 08:31 PM
Hey Max clear your units

Unregistered
09-11-2018, 08:37 PM
The city just strong armed them at the table So don't expect a good contract or lawsuit. Mr. President just got raped by the City and the City is ready for round two. Maybe if he wasn't so busy working 46's he'd have time to fight more for our benefits. Such Amateurs negotiating when will they learn

Well if this is true then it’s one of the two Reyes brother putting this out cause no one else showed up other than the negotiation team

Unregistered
09-11-2018, 08:45 PM
Well if this is true then it’s one of the two Reyes brother putting this out cause no one else showed up other than the negotiation team

And I don’t see a problem With it at least they’re trying to inform everyone. Not hiding the truth.....
Thank you guys and it looks ur getting my vote ....

Unregistered
09-11-2018, 09:03 PM
And I don’t see a problem With it at least they’re trying to inform everyone. Not hiding the truth.....
Thank you guys and it looks ur getting my vote ....

But they don’t speak the truth they speak s—t from there azz holes

Unregistered
09-11-2018, 09:15 PM
It is disgusting to see individuals supporting this clowns just because they are afraid of getting kick out of specialize units, you people are worst than prostitutes at least the ladies of the night charge what they think is right for their services, some of you will do it for free and yet will still take it hard where it hurts, it is disgusting to see you fools pretending to like somebody who hasn't done nothing other than benefit from his position and refuses to fight and do us right. What the city wants to give us is low pennies on the dollar and this clowns have allowed this to take place.

Unregistered
09-11-2018, 09:28 PM
It is disgusting to see individuals supporting this clowns just because they are afraid of getting kick out of specialize units, you people are worst than prostitutes at least the ladies of the night charge what they think is right for their services, some of you will do it for free and yet will still take it hard where it hurts, it is disgusting to see you fools pretending to like somebody who hasn't done nothing other than benefit from his position and refuses to fight and do us right. What the city wants to give us is low pennies on the dollar and this clowns have allowed this to take place.

No it azz holes like you that put out this garbage first without first hand knowledge. Till the WHOLE package is done don’t condem one section. Don’t put out rumors on fires or Ascme till it’s voted and posted either. Half the time you don’t comprehend what you have read much less understand it. Don’t comprehend Miami to lighthouse point either salary for 29 guys is much less than 1350 guys. I’ll wait, and not listen to loud mouth crying screaming queens that don’t have a brain cell between them.

Unregistered
09-11-2018, 09:29 PM
It is disgusting to see individuals supporting this clowns just because they are afraid of getting kick out of specialize units, you people are worst than prostitutes at least the ladies of the night charge what they think is right for their services, some of you will do it for free and yet will still take it hard where it hurts, it is disgusting to see you fools pretending to like somebody who hasn't done nothing other than benefit from his position and refuses to fight and do us right. What the city wants to give us is low pennies on the dollar and this clowns have allowed this to take place.

THATS WHAT U THINK ALOT OF PEOPLE ARE TIRED AND THEYRE WAITING FOR THE CONTRACT..... and we’re voting those ****ers out, giving us 5% for being in the units and **** us on pension contributions increase and lawsuit money won’t cut it ......we are voting them out if this contract dont help us out....

Unregistered
09-11-2018, 09:43 PM
THATS WHAT U THINK ALOT OF PEOPLE ARE TIRED AND THEYRE WAITING FOR THE CONTRACT..... and we’re voting those ****ers out, giving us 5% for being in the units and **** us on pension contributions increase and lawsuit money won’t cut it ......we are voting them out if this contract dont help us out....

Go collect your bl— job maybe he swallow for a vote to.

Unregistered
09-11-2018, 09:46 PM
No it azz holes like you that put out this garbage first without first hand knowledge. Till the WHOLE package is done don’t condem one section. Don’t put out rumors on fires or Ascme till it’s voted and posted either. Half the time you don’t comprehend what you have read much less understand it. Don’t comprehend Miami to lighthouse point either salary for 29 guys is much less than 1350 guys. I’ll wait, and not listen to loud mouth crying screaming queens that don’t have a brain cell between them.
Wtf are u talking about “them” if that is the case ,I was one of those that for 5 years GOT. F U C K E D MADE 1150 for 5 years my family got f u c k e d for 5 years finally we saw light at the end of the Tunnel and U let the city used the the lawsuit money for contract negotiations...... the City is trying to pay us pennies in our lawsuit money and use it as a rise ..... WE KNOW THE GAME INCREACE CONTRIBUTIONS 3% PAY THE MONEY IN 2 years it works as a raise so we DONT feel IT til we get the 4 % in the last year MY FRIEND 🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽Unless I don’t get a good contract I will get as much people possible to vote u OUT OF THE FOP......
yeah we might be 40% but we also have real friends that don’t F U C K THEIR FAMILIES.... we DONT want REYES BUT AT THIS POINT SOME CHANGE WOULD BE BETTER THAN NONE OR GETTING ****ED FOR 3 more years and loose all our money .....

Unregistered
09-11-2018, 09:48 PM
Get back to work and direct traffic. Call holding my minions. Calls holding

Unregistered
09-11-2018, 10:16 PM
How long before you clear, Miami cross dispatch if you have too. I don’t enough units. It is what it is.

Unregistered
09-11-2018, 10:46 PM
check your outlook 365 dawgs. apparently tommy reyes is making stuff up. im voting yes brotha


Dear Brothers & Sisters,
We have reached a tentative agreement on our union contract. Below is a summary of the agreement:
Normal Step Progression continues, plus you will receive a 2% across the board increase on the first full pay periods of October 1, 2018/April 1, 2019/October 1, 2020/April 1, 2021, which compounds to a 9% pay increase on top of normal step progression which is 5% your first seven years, and 2% on odd years thereafter. Please refer to Appendix A in the contract.
Retirement contributions will stay status quo; meaning what you contribute now stays the same.
An MOU has been agreed to that all twelve holidays will be paid at the special events overtime rate for third party vendors.
If you get PTSD and claim a disability, instead of being put out 2/3, if the City has a job for you there will be no decrease in your current pay and benefits and you’ll just do that job.
There is a relieved of duty clause that if you are R.O.D., the Chief may request for it to be without pay, but only after a hearing made up of three people: 1) the Chief or his designee 2) the FOP President or his designee 3) a person from our bargaining unit that the Chief and Union President agree on.
Retirement: Those not vested by 9/26/10 have a maximum $120,000 cap. Those vested as of 9/26/10 have no cap. Vested members as of 12/31/12 are eligible to take either the Forward drop or backdrop. All other members are entitled to the backdrop, but may elect it at anytime once they hit their points. Rule of 64 is in place for all bargaining unit members.
Tuition Reimbursement: It has been increased from $2,000 to $4,000.
Substance Abuse: There is language that encourages rehabilitation in the event you have a substance abuse problem.
Health Insurance: The agreement is the same. We have not increased in eight years! The national average is a 10% increase, meaning your healthcare premium should be up 80%! #GOFOP
Officers/Sergeants/Lieutenants/Captains are all on a 4-10 schedule (all bargaining unit members)
Normal Step & Longevity Progression On (all bargaining unit members)
Crime Prevention $2700/year (all bargaining unit members)
Shift Differential Pay 2.5%. (if you work between 1800 HRS-0700 HRS, you receive this)
Senior Uniform Patrol Officer 5%
Senior Uniform Patrol Sergeant 5%
Senior Investigators Pay 5%
Crisis Intervention Team 2.5%
Field Training Officer 5%
SWAT 5%
Training 2%
K9 5%
Mounted 5%
Diver Recovery Pay 5%
Bomb Squad 10%
NRO 5%
Pilot 20%
DRE 5%
Complaint Sergeant 5%
FDLE verification bonus for new sworn $1648
Education Pay: Associates 1200/Bachelors 2400/Masters 3600/PHD 4800
We are in mediation with the City of Miami in regards to our damages that are being dealt via the Public Employee Relations Commission. Robert Klausner and Gene Gibbons were present at today’s negotiations. This contract does not interfere in these negotiations and we will have more information in the very near future. We would not do anything to interfere with mediation. Every step of this contract negotiation was with the expert legal advice from our attorneys.
Thank you,
Edward Lugo, President
Robert Destephan, Vice President

Notice of Contract Ratification Meetings For Ratification Election

The Miami Fraternal Order of Police Lodge # 20 has tentatively agreed to a new Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) that would start on October 1, 2018 and expire on September 30, 2021. A copy of the tentative agreement is available for review at the FOP hall located at 710 SW 12 Ave, Miami Florida between the hours of 7:30 AM until 4:00 PM daily, Monday through Friday. Copies of the tentative agreement will also be available at each of the polling locations during the vote and we have attached a copy with this e-Mail. We will be attending roll calls throughout the week to explain the changes and answer any questions you may have.
Absentee ballots will be available for those bargaining unit members (regardless of membership in the FOP) who are on military leave, or jury duty, or whose absences arise from the performance of their duties within the normal scope of their employment. These are the only reasons in which you will be permitted to vote via an absentee ballot. You cannot vote with an absentee ballot, if, for example, you will be on vacation during the date the election will be held. You will be required to execute a certification that one of the above limited circumstances applies to you in order to obtain an absentee ballot. Absentee ballots will be available from our union president, Edward Lugo on September 12th ,13th ,14th and 17th. You can request it by emailing edlugo@bellsouth.net. The last day for submitting any absentee ballots will be Monday September 17th, at 4:00 pm. The absentee ballots will be counted at a public meeting at the FOP hall on September 18, 2018, 710 SW 12 Ave, Miami Florida, after the close of the regular polls. The meeting for the tally of the absentee ballots is open to all members of the bargaining unit regardless of membership in the FOP.
The contract ratification meetings, where you will cast your ballots to vote on whether or not to ratify the contract, will take place on Tuesday September 18, 2018 between the hours of 6:00 AM and 4:00 PM at all four police stations: North District Station, 1000 NW 62ST, Miami Fl.; Central Station, 400 NW 2 Ave, Miami Fl.; South District, 2200 W. Flagler St., Miami Fl.; and the Grapeland Heights Station (SOS), 1701 NW 30 Ave., Miami Fl.. All bargaining unit members should vote at the station to which they are assigned; however, they are permitted to vote at any of the other polling locations. The ballot count will commence following the close of the polls at 710 Southwest 12th Avenue. These counts will be open for anyone that wishes to attend and watch the count.
If you have any question about the above, please contact the FOP at (305) 854-5019.
The majority of all those voting will prevail.

Unregistered
09-11-2018, 11:22 PM
Contract is out and is a total BS!!!! This guys are so fresh they have the face to put such BS contract out there when the City of Miami is at its peek. It is unreal what they are doing to all of us.

Unregistered
09-11-2018, 11:25 PM
Contract will pass. Now take an 09!and handle the 17 holding

Unregistered
09-12-2018, 12:46 AM
Voting No... next

Unregistered
09-12-2018, 01:46 AM
That's a NO for me too

Unregistered
09-12-2018, 01:42 PM
Somebody is going to be a major for this contract , congratulations on the promotion

Unregistered
09-12-2018, 07:00 PM
I wanted to attend but yet again, nobody knew that it was yesterday

Unregistered
09-12-2018, 07:06 PM
How convenient now captains can work 4-10 hours , never been done before in any contract but now is ok, do you know any captain that can benefits from it .
Oh well I guess if we get ROD now it will be without pay and get ready to lose your house , car and everything ,those investigations take years .
At least if you become disable in this job due to an injury the city will keep you , oh wait no, there's no job for you at this time.
Oh well at least I'm getting the same step raises that I get all the time , so what I'm getting then, peanuts


Unregistered said:
Today 04:01 PM
Of course that second person is going to agree with the Chief. If he or she doesn't it would be a career suicide and a transfer back to patrol. Ask the LT that was just transferred out of DDRB.

Unregistered
09-12-2018, 07:26 PM
What happens if you VOTE NO!
What happens Tuesday if you vote no?
You make city hall and the shady union sweat
When the budget is revealed We’d and magically the city is doing great!

You get a better contract, that’s what happens


Don’t settle for peanuts while others make out rich on your backs