Swearingen in Jacksonville

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Old Rick in Jacksonville blowing smoke up everyones asses that FDLE needs more money for the inexperienced clan he has made for himself. Did he stop by St. Johns County to apologize? And WTF is that little badge hanger he's wearing on his suit jacket, you're the F'n Commissioner at a press conference, no one really gives a shit who you are.

http://jacksonville.com/sites/default/files/styles/slideshow__640x360/public/field/image/3395856_web1_JAX_072717_GovLawEnforce_01.jpg?itok= OOETTy_Y

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Actually, dumbass, that is a common method for law enforcement executives to identify themselves. Bailey issued them to the ASACs/SACs/etc 10 years ago.

You need to go join another agency - your hatred for a few is unhealthy pal!

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Old Rick in Jacksonville blowing smoke up everyones asses that FDLE needs more money for the inexperienced clan he has made for himself. Did he stop by St. Johns County to apologize? And WTF is that little badge hanger he's wearing on his suit jacket, you're the F'n Commissioner at a press conference, no one really gives a shit who you are.

http://jacksonville.com/sites/default/files/styles/slideshow__640x360/public/field/image/3395856_web1_JAX_072717_GovLawEnforce_01.jpg?itok= OOETTy_Y

Apologize to St. John's county??? For what?? RR might have made a few minor mistakes in his report but the NYT article exposes you bunch of hillbillies and your billy-bob sheriff for what you are! It is your agency who should apologize to the family. Crawl back up in the St Johns holler and have another natty lite!

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At least he didn't show up in jeans.

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At least he didn't show up in jeans.

Seriously dude?? Let it go! Must be a Deep State holdover.

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At least he didn't show up in jeans.

Probably JM or CS.....ironic since all some people ever wore were jeans!

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At least he didn't show up in jeans.
I don't give a damn what someone wears...let's compare actions:

Old Regime:
1. Cases micromanaged from HQ
2. Overtime virtually non-existant
3. No on-call pay
4. No pay raise and no one fighting for pay raises

New Regime:
1.Agents allowed to develop and work cases
2. Paid for OT worked
3.On-call pay
4.Lab analyst pay raise 2 years ago and 5% pay raise for sworn last year. Now looks like we may get the base pay increase and pay adjustments recommended last year.

Easy decision.....I'm going with the new guys!!

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PBA got state cops the raises, not RS. Every commish has asked for raises. Give me a break. More money is available all the way around including available monies for OT and on-call. Rick's not paying for this himself for Christs' sake. Don't kid yourself.

If anything, the Agency is finally benefiting from what past administrations did.

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PBA got state cops the raises, not RS. Every commish has asked for raises. Give me a break. More money is available all the way around including available monies for OT and on-call. Rick's not paying for this himself for Christs' sake. Don't kid yourself.

If anything, the Agency is finally benefiting from what past administrations did.

Been here 15 years and never remember Bailey asking for squat!

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Been here 15 years and never remember Bailey asking for squat!

Lol....you would have to go downtown to ask for a raise which means GB would have to leave his office!!

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PBA got state cops the raises, not RS. Every commish has asked for raises. Give me a break. More money is available all the way around including available monies for OT and on-call. Rick's not paying for this himself for Christs' sake. Don't kid yourself.

If anything, the Agency is finally benefiting from what past administrations did.

Still early...time will tell what current administration can get done for agents and agency but NO ONE in this agency believes GB/JM/CS had their backs!

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Get rid of those who still use the GB management style. Mark P is great example. PROC Jack M, TBROC ASAC, Troy in miami, as long as they are around, those who work for them are screwed.

As far as St John county, nothing can be wrong because Mark B, the ASAC and SAC at the time were monitoring the investigation and signed off on RR course of the investigation. What was ur NA class # MB?

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Get rid of those who still use the GB management style. Mark P is great example. PROC Jack M, TBROC ASAC, Troy in miami, as long as they are around, those who work for them are screwed.

As far as St John county, nothing can be wrong because Mark B, the ASAC and SAC at the time were monitoring the investigation and signed off on RR course of the investigation. What was ur NA class # MB?

DING DING DING. Winner winner, chicken dinner!

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Sorry this does not sound like some mistakes were made..This sounds like criminal activity by RR but FDLE is just covering like always.



Attorneys for St. Johns County sheriff’s deputy Jeremy Banks filed a motion in a federal court in Jacksonville Thursday claiming Florida Department of Law Enforcement agent Rusty Rodgers “destroyed” his own credibility and asking that his defenses and pleadings be thrown out in an ongoing civil rights and malicious prosecution suit brought against the embattled agent.


An FDLE report released last March said Rodgers’ investigation into the 2010 death of Michelle O’Connell was “substandard” and that Rodgers, among other things, left details out when documenting an interview, added a word to a quote in multiple affidavits and failed to document a text message in his investigative report.

READ MORE: Family has Michelle O'Connell's body exhumed; private investigator says evidence found

According to a news release, attorney Mac McLeod, representing Banks, seeks (by striking Rodgers’ defenses) to proceed with determining any damages “awardable” to Banks “who has endured years of false allegations he was responsible for his girlfriend’s death, which was ruled a suicide by 3 separate medical examiners and 2 State Attorneys.”

SEE ALSO

St. Johns County deputy arrested on domestic violence charges
NY Times: Shoar conducted ‘scathingly personal’ campaign against FDLE agent
Banks sued Rodgers in 2014, claiming Rodgers worked under a theory Banks was to blame in O’Connell’s death.

O’Connell died of a gunshot wound through her mouth on Sept. 2, 2010, in Banks’ home. Banks was, and still is, a sheriff’s deputy. The gun that fired the fatal shot was his service weapon.

The death, initially investigated by the St. Johns County Sheriff’s Office, was eventually ruled a suicide by the local District 23 Medical Examiner’s Office.

Last month, the state’s Medical Examiners Commission recommended disciplinary action for Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Predrag Bulic and associate medical examiner Dr. Frederick Hobin, both involved in the 2010 investigation. The vote came after a panel found probable cause both men violated Florida statutes and “practice guidelines” in their handling — and the office’s handling — of documents associated with the case.

Some members of O’Connell’s family have said she wouldn’t have killed herself and some have questioned the integrity of the original investigation and believe Banks is responsible, though he has denied any wrongdoing.

Thursday’s motion is the latest development in ongoing proceedings that have played out in the courts and the media since the 2010 death.

The motion, which characterizes Rodgers’ conduct as a “cancer” to the justice system, claims Rodgers “repeatedly engaged in outright misrepresentations and perjury” while testifying under oath, providing several examples.

In the motion, McLeod claims Rodgers took “extreme and unlawful measures” to make sure Banks was charged with O’Connell’s murder, despite “overwhelming evidence” and the medical examiner reports indicating otherwise. The motion also says Rodgers initially admitted in his deposition “he did not have (or even consider) probable cause” to believe Banks was “criminally culpable.”

“Rodgers aggressively advocated his unsupported theory Banks was guilty of murder to others, including Michelle’s family members, Banks’ employer, witnesses, law enforcement officials, prosecutors and their investigators, medical examiners and a County Judge,” the motion continues. “Among the many instances of his intentional misconduct, Rodgers manipulated evidence to suit his theory, communicated false factual representations indicating Banks’ culpability to others and knowingly omitted significant exculpatory evidence, in an effort to have the official suicide findings changed to homicide and charges brought against Banks for murder.”

READ MORE: Judge's order says O'Connell lawsuit against Rusty Rodgers can go forward; FDLE out of case

The motion says Rodgers’ efforts continued after the conclusion of his investigation despite independent findings by two state attorneys’ offices that there was insufficient probable cause to bring charges against Banks for any crime.

Also under the microscope are Rodgers’ sworn statements throughout the litigation denying conversations and circumstances reported by others or making counter accusations. In his deposition, Rodgers repeatedly denied telling anyone Banks murdered Michelle O’Connell.

Rodgers at one point testified he had conveyed to others that O’Connell “didn’t kill herself” (rather than saying Banks had murdered her). At another point, he said there was a “good possibility,” based on the evidence, that Banks and O’Connell “might have been fighting over the gun and that the gun accidentally went off.” Asked to clarify his statement on the gun “accidentally going off intraorally,” Rodgers said it was “just a theory” and that he “didn’t say accidentally.”

Among the witnesses cited in the motion as demonstrating Rodgers’ “untruthful testimony,” are County Judge Charles Tinlin, St. Augustine Beach Police Chief Rob Hardwick (former state attorney investigator) and former St. Johns County deputy Scott O’Connell (Michelle’s brother, who filed a civil suit of his own against Rodgers, also in 2014).

When asked what Rodgers told him when applying for a warrant, Tinlin testified Rodgers had told him Banks “put her on her knees and shot her in the mouth with a handgun.”

Hardwick testified Rodgers’ claim he had never opined or suggested to anyone Michelle O’Connell was murdered was a “blatant lie.”

“He came into our office convinced that it was a murder we were working, period,” Hardwick said in his deposition. “It never wavered off murder from the day I met him.”

Scott O’Connell had testified: “When he told me that my sister was executed by Jeremy Banks on her knees and where she was screaming for her life, those types of things stand out.”

“Defendant’s only explanation is that everyone is lying except him,” the motion said.

Other similar instances are outlined in the 26-page motion, which also accuses Rodgers of “coaching” witnesses and trying to influence witnesses prior to on-the-record interviews in an attempt to get charges brought against Banks — and later lying about the conduct while under oath.

As written in the motion: “Defendant Rodgers’ false, misleading and inconsistent testimony throughout the discovery process is so pervasive and extreme, and involves so many material issues, it has destroyed Defendant’s credibility on all issues, significantly undermined the integrity of this action, and caused substantial amounts of time and expense in rebuttal work by Plaintiff’s counsel. Given the prevalence of his lies and their effect on pivotal issues and allegations in this case, Defendant’s misconduct unfairly hampers the presentation of Plaintiff’s claims and interferes with the Court’s ability to impartially determine whether genuine issues of fact exist.”

A judge will have to rule on the motion.

Rodgers was suspended with pay throughout the three-year investigation by FDLE, which came at the request of St. Johns County Sheriff David Shoar. It was reported at the time of Rodgers’ reinstatement, also last March, that he had received counseling and would receive remedial training regarding procedures for documenting investigative reports.

http://staugustine.com/news/local-news/2017-03-24/deputy-banks-attorney-claims-fdle-agent-s-credibility-destroyed

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Sorry this does not sound like some mistakes were made..This sounds like criminal activity by RR but FDLE is just covering like always.



Attorneys for St. Johns County sheriff’s deputy Jeremy Banks filed a motion in a federal court in Jacksonville Thursday claiming Florida Department of Law Enforcement agent Rusty Rodgers “destroyed” his own credibility and asking that his defenses and pleadings be thrown out in an ongoing civil rights and malicious prosecution suit brought against the embattled agent.


An FDLE report released last March said Rodgers’ investigation into the 2010 death of Michelle O’Connell was “substandard” and that Rodgers, among other things, left details out when documenting an interview, added a word to a quote in multiple affidavits and failed to document a text message in his investigative report.

READ MORE: Family has Michelle O'Connell's body exhumed; private investigator says evidence found

According to a news release, attorney Mac McLeod, representing Banks, seeks (by striking Rodgers’ defenses) to proceed with determining any damages “awardable” to Banks “who has endured years of false allegations he was responsible for his girlfriend’s death, which was ruled a suicide by 3 separate medical examiners and 2 State Attorneys.”

SEE ALSO

St. Johns County deputy arrested on domestic violence charges
NY Times: Shoar conducted ‘scathingly personal’ campaign against FDLE agent
Banks sued Rodgers in 2014, claiming Rodgers worked under a theory Banks was to blame in O’Connell’s death.

O’Connell died of a gunshot wound through her mouth on Sept. 2, 2010, in Banks’ home. Banks was, and still is, a sheriff’s deputy. The gun that fired the fatal shot was his service weapon.

The death, initially investigated by the St. Johns County Sheriff’s Office, was eventually ruled a suicide by the local District 23 Medical Examiner’s Office.

Last month, the state’s Medical Examiners Commission recommended disciplinary action for Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Predrag Bulic and associate medical examiner Dr. Frederick Hobin, both involved in the 2010 investigation. The vote came after a panel found probable cause both men violated Florida statutes and “practice guidelines” in their handling — and the office’s handling — of documents associated with the case.

Some members of O’Connell’s family have said she wouldn’t have killed herself and some have questioned the integrity of the original investigation and believe Banks is responsible, though he has denied any wrongdoing.

Thursday’s motion is the latest development in ongoing proceedings that have played out in the courts and the media since the 2010 death.

The motion, which characterizes Rodgers’ conduct as a “cancer” to the justice system, claims Rodgers “repeatedly engaged in outright misrepresentations and perjury” while testifying under oath, providing several examples.

In the motion, McLeod claims Rodgers took “extreme and unlawful measures” to make sure Banks was charged with O’Connell’s murder, despite “overwhelming evidence” and the medical examiner reports indicating otherwise. The motion also says Rodgers initially admitted in his deposition “he did not have (or even consider) probable cause” to believe Banks was “criminally culpable.”

“Rodgers aggressively advocated his unsupported theory Banks was guilty of murder to others, including Michelle’s family members, Banks’ employer, witnesses, law enforcement officials, prosecutors and their investigators, medical examiners and a County Judge,” the motion continues. “Among the many instances of his intentional misconduct, Rodgers manipulated evidence to suit his theory, communicated false factual representations indicating Banks’ culpability to others and knowingly omitted significant exculpatory evidence, in an effort to have the official suicide findings changed to homicide and charges brought against Banks for murder.”

READ MORE: Judge's order says O'Connell lawsuit against Rusty Rodgers can go forward; FDLE out of case

The motion says Rodgers’ efforts continued after the conclusion of his investigation despite independent findings by two state attorneys’ offices that there was insufficient probable cause to bring charges against Banks for any crime.

Also under the microscope are Rodgers’ sworn statements throughout the litigation denying conversations and circumstances reported by others or making counter accusations. In his deposition, Rodgers repeatedly denied telling anyone Banks murdered Michelle O’Connell.

Rodgers at one point testified he had conveyed to others that O’Connell “didn’t kill herself” (rather than saying Banks had murdered her). At another point, he said there was a “good possibility,” based on the evidence, that Banks and O’Connell “might have been fighting over the gun and that the gun accidentally went off.” Asked to clarify his statement on the gun “accidentally going off intraorally,” Rodgers said it was “just a theory” and that he “didn’t say accidentally.”

Among the witnesses cited in the motion as demonstrating Rodgers’ “untruthful testimony,” are County Judge Charles Tinlin, St. Augustine Beach Police Chief Rob Hardwick (former state attorney investigator) and former St. Johns County deputy Scott O’Connell (Michelle’s brother, who filed a civil suit of his own against Rodgers, also in 2014).

When asked what Rodgers told him when applying for a warrant, Tinlin testified Rodgers had told him Banks “put her on her knees and shot her in the mouth with a handgun.”

Hardwick testified Rodgers’ claim he had never opined or suggested to anyone Michelle O’Connell was murdered was a “blatant lie.”

“He came into our office convinced that it was a murder we were working, period,” Hardwick said in his deposition. “It never wavered off murder from the day I met him.”

Scott O’Connell had testified: “When he told me that my sister was executed by Jeremy Banks on her knees and where she was screaming for her life, those types of things stand out.”

“Defendant’s only explanation is that everyone is lying except him,” the motion said.

Other similar instances are outlined in the 26-page motion, which also accuses Rodgers of “coaching” witnesses and trying to influence witnesses prior to on-the-record interviews in an attempt to get charges brought against Banks — and later lying about the conduct while under oath.

As written in the motion: “Defendant Rodgers’ false, misleading and inconsistent testimony throughout the discovery process is so pervasive and extreme, and involves so many material issues, it has destroyed Defendant’s credibility on all issues, significantly undermined the integrity of this action, and caused substantial amounts of time and expense in rebuttal work by Plaintiff’s counsel. Given the prevalence of his lies and their effect on pivotal issues and allegations in this case, Defendant’s misconduct unfairly hampers the presentation of Plaintiff’s claims and interferes with the Court’s ability to impartially determine whether genuine issues of fact exist.”

A judge will have to rule on the motion.

Rodgers was suspended with pay throughout the three-year investigation by FDLE, which came at the request of St. Johns County Sheriff David Shoar. It was reported at the time of Rodgers’ reinstatement, also last March, that he had received counseling and would receive remedial training regarding procedures for documenting investigative reports.

http://staugustine.com/news/local-news/2017-03-24/deputy-banks-attorney-claims-fdle-agent-s-credibility-destroyed

And this sounds like ineptitude....

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/17/us/michelle-oconnell-jeremy-banks.html

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And this sounds like ineptitude....

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/17/us/michelle-oconnell-jeremy-banks.html

Yea, RR and Walt two liars together....LOL

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A lot of imporatant people saying RR is lyong about all kinds of stuff but I am sure RR is the one that is correct...

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Not sure how Sheeley is still around.

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I don't know if RR lied or not...I am concerned that EVERYONE in his chain was never even questioned or stood up for him. Its either failure to supervise or they are also responsible. As a supervisor, I approve every IR and if I read them (especially in the case where a LEO might have committed homicide) and approve them, how can I claim ignorance? Why is MB and the ones who left not ever mentioned? RR did not operate in a vacuum? Pape and others were WAY In the loop to include Bailey on this case and yet RR swings in the wind.

This should be VERY concerning to all of us. Do you think that if you are NOT in the "club" and that if you use force, get firm in an interrogation, or have a bad day that your command and/or the folks at HQ have your back? You WILL be the focus of their wrath! You will have IA after IA.....The mentality of EI is not to find the truth but to make their focus come full circle and to force you out? I have never worked or seen a more petty, self righteous, or shit leadership than FDLE. I mean a ranking individual (CH) in Tallahassee was caught "in a compromising situation" involving a TDY external individual after hours in the office and was fine, but YC in GVille is asked to demote cause someones panties got in a wad? A great leader in PCola is persecuted due to kicking a trash can? But a do nothing special agent (ooops sorry Inspector) who happens to have his law degree gets to travel the world on the states dime and produce nothing? Hell your AC went to the FBI academy , returned after to leave his wife for an instructor and all is good, but sit on his high throne passing judgement on others for similar activities. Your other AC actually left the agency (disloyalty), after pissing off almost EVERY agency to include the FBI (like i care) to return to a 6 figure salary. Lets contunue.....
KS in the keys committed a crime and BB was a tyrant in MROC and is causing multiple law suits, but Vince W was arrested for a BS charge and forced out? Despo get arrested and forced out for petty theft? COME ON........Those of you NOT in the club are all fair game.....and if you THINK you are in the club, you are not! These are not cops. These are ever jocking politicians who think they are MUCH more than they are who could not be in any level 6 encounter or handle the stress of a real LEO situation.

I pray for us going forward. The only reason its better under RS is he knows he is done in 18 months. He accepts this and is building his high 5. GB thought he could do Gov to Gov. RS is trying to minimize and stay under his own radar. Those of you who rise above the radar and make bad mojo will be dealt with.

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I don't know if RR lied or not...I am concerned that EVERYONE in his chain was never even questioned or stood up for him. Its either failure to supervise or they are also responsible. As a supervisor, I approve every IR and if I read them (especially in the case where a LEO might have committed homicide) and approve them, how can I claim ignorance? Why is MB and the ones who left not ever mentioned? RR did not operate in a vacuum? Pape and others were WAY In the loop to include Bailey on this case and yet RR swings in the wind.

This should be VERY concerning to all of us. Do you think that if you are NOT in the "club" and that if you use force, get firm in an interrogation, or have a bad day that your command and/or the folks at HQ have your back? You WILL be the focus of their wrath! You will have IA after IA.....The mentality of EI is not to find the truth but to make their focus come full circle and to force you out? I have never worked or seen a more petty, self righteous, or shit leadership than FDLE. I mean a ranking individual (CH) in Tallahassee was caught "in a compromising situation" involving a TDY external individual after hours in the office and was fine, but YC in GVille is asked to demote cause someones panties got in a wad? A great leader in PCola is persecuted due to kicking a trash can? But a do nothing special agent (ooops sorry Inspector) who happens to have his law degree gets to travel on the states dime and produce nothing? Hell your AC went to the FBI academy , returned after to leave his wife for an instructor and all is good, but sit on his high throne passing judgement on others for similar activities. Your other AC actually left the agency (disloyalty), after pissing off almost EVERY agency to include the FBI (like i care) to return to a 6 figure salary. Lets contunue.....
KS in the keys committed a crime and BB was a tyrant in MROC and is causing multiple law suits, but Vince W was arrested for a BS charge and forced out? Despo get arrested and forced out for petty theft? COME ON........Those of you NOT in the club are all fair game.....and if you THINK you are in the club, you are not! These are not cops. These are ever jocking politicians who think they are MUCH more than they are who could not be in any level 6 encounter or handle the stress of a real LEO situation.

I pray for us going forward. The only reason its better under RS is he knows he is done in 18 months. He accepts this and is building his high 5. GB thought he could do Gov to Gov. RS is trying to minimize and stay under his own radar. Those of you who rise above the radar and make bad mojo will be dealt with.

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How do you figure people were left off.

Pape ran
Bailey was forced out about 2 weeks after major depositions had ended in RR case

MB claimed RR acted without his knowledge on many things, so he was given a pass.

Many people know what happened but nobody wants in upper management of FDLE wants the truth out there in regards to RR's BS investigation...

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Ran? How about, resign or be arrested...

Acted with out knowledge? Are you his supervisor or not....how long did he operated ans why did you not remove him? YOU ARE his supervisor and NOW a supervisor of the entire region....

COME ON!.......Here is an idea...join him (RR) on an interview....a surveillance....god forbid you miss a few hours on your boat after 5 pm and do cop work......Oh damn...I Forgot, you have to pack for Quantico.....Dont forget to tell your Mentor Mark P how great he is.....

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Ran? How about, resign or be arrested...

Acted with out knowledge? Are you his supervisor or not....how long did he operated ans why did you not remove him? YOU ARE his supervisor and NOW a supervisor of the entire region....

COME ON!.......Here is an idea...join him (RR) on an interview....a surveillance....god forbid you miss a few hours on your boat after 5 pm and do cop work......Oh damn...I Forgot, you have to pack for Quantico.....Dont forget to tell your Mentor Mark P how great he is.....

I don't have an issue with that but FDLE has apparently been able to avoid responsibility for an investigation that would have any other LEO in criminal trouble, so it does not surprise that supervisors were able to claim deniability of knowledge..

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I don't have an issue with that but FDLE has apparently been able to avoid responsibility for an investigation that would have any other LEO in criminal trouble, so it does not surprise that supervisors were able to claim deniability of knowledge..

What about SJSO officers/detectives who bungled the crime scene so badly and their supervisors?

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What about SJSO officers/detectives who bungled the crime scene so badly and their supervisors?

A canvass and statement from the family would have been good but when you have an intra oral wound and gunshot residue on the victims hands that pretty much focuses the investigation for any investigator

Course RRs investigation was top shelf..

From putting FABRICATED dates to computer searches to supposed witnesses being directed to where the victim's house was located would be considered highly improper to possibly criminal issues so yes we are back at RR.

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Actually, dumbass, that is a common method for law enforcement executives to identify themselves. Bailey issued them to the ASACs/SACs/etc 10 years ago.

You need to go join another agency - your hatred for a few is unhealthy pal!

Yea spare no expense with the taxpayer funded trinkets, that'll win you points with the troops.

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Still early...time will tell what current administration can get done for agents and agency but NO ONE in this agency believes GB/JM/CS had their backs!

Nobody believes RS has their backs either, unless you are Supervisor or above. Don't kid yourself.

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I don't know if RR lied or not...I am concerned that EVERYONE in his chain was never even questioned or stood up for him. Its either failure to supervise or they are also responsible. As a supervisor, I approve every IR and if I read them (especially in the case where a LEO might have committed homicide) and approve them, how can I claim ignorance? Why is MB and the ones who left not ever mentioned? RR did not operate in a vacuum? Pape and others were WAY In the loop to include Bailey on this case and yet RR swings in the wind.

This should be VERY concerning to all of us. Do you think that if you are NOT in the "club" and that if you use force, get firm in an interrogation, or have a bad day that your command and/or the folks at HQ have your back? You WILL be the focus of their wrath! You will have IA after IA.....The mentality of EI is not to find the truth but to make their focus come full circle and to force you out? I have never worked or seen a more petty, self righteous, or shit leadership than FDLE. I mean a ranking individual (CH) in Tallahassee was caught "in a compromising situation" involving a TDY external individual after hours in the office and was fine, but YC in GVille is asked to demote cause someones panties got in a wad? A great leader in PCola is persecuted due to kicking a trash can? But a do nothing special agent (ooops sorry Inspector) who happens to have his law degree gets to travel the world on the states dime and produce nothing? Hell your AC went to the FBI academy , returned after to leave his wife for an instructor and all is good, but sit on his high throne passing judgement on others for similar activities. Your other AC actually left the agency (disloyalty), after pissing off almost EVERY agency to include the FBI (like i care) to return to a 6 figure salary. Lets contunue.....
KS in the keys committed a crime and BB was a tyrant in MROC and is causing multiple law suits, but Vince W was arrested for a BS charge and forced out? Despo get arrested and forced out for petty theft? COME ON........Those of you NOT in the club are all fair game.....and if you THINK you are in the club, you are not! These are not cops. These are ever jocking politicians who think they are MUCH more than they are who could not be in any level 6 encounter or handle the stress of a real LEO situation.

I pray for us going forward. The only reason its better under RS is he knows he is done in 18 months. He accepts this and is building his high 5. GB thought he could do Gov to Gov. RS is trying to minimize and stay under his own radar. Those of you who rise above the radar and make bad mojo will be dealt with.


RS knows he's done in 18 months??? Don't kid yourself, he's trying to play Governor Hop the same way Bailey did. He'll keep playing the "T" card and talking about what keeps him awake at night worrying how he'll keep the public safe, blah, blah, blah. No commissioner should be allowed to stay with a new administration. Bailey proved that point. He thought he could do anything he wanted and didn't have to answer to anyone. Only when he was shown the door did he come up with accusations against Scott that nobody believed.

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Why is morale low? Because of the arrogance of the upper management. PBA is ineffective because Swearingen and Ladner have made them that way by not respecting the fact that they represent the majority of the Agents, and hence, the Agents have no voice. When PBA approaches with concerns about something, they discount what they have to say and "don't care". If a problem arises and PBA voices a concern, they contact the ASAC or SAC that created the problem and take their word as the end-all without consideration for the facts or that employee's circumstances or even documented facts that they (PBA) have about the concern. The easy thing is to say "we know" about something, and dismiss PBA like they are nothing.

Every workplace has disputes, issues, and people that don't get along for whatever reason, it's now the upper management handles it that determines if the troops feel comfortable that upper management has EVERYONE's back. Seeing one person get one punishment for one thing, another being ignored for the same thing, or letting dishonesty fly goes noticed and in the LEO line of work, it creates strained feelings of trust.

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Why is morale low? Because of the arrogance of the upper management. PBA is ineffective because Swearingen and Ladner have made them that way by not respecting the fact that they represent the majority of the Agents, and hence, the Agents have no voice. When PBA approaches with concerns about something, they discount what they have to say and "don't care". If a problem arises and PBA voices a concern, they contact the ASAC or SAC that created the problem and take their word as the end-all without consideration for the facts or that employee's circumstances or even documented facts that they (PBA) have about the concern. The easy thing is to say "we know" about something, and dismiss PBA like they are nothing.

Every workplace has disputes, issues, and people that don't get along for whatever reason, it's now the upper management handles it that determines if the troops feel comfortable that upper management has EVERYONE's back. Seeing one person get one punishment for one thing, another being ignored for the same thing, or letting dishonesty fly goes noticed and in the LEO line of work, it creates strained feelings of trust.

Add to this the hostile work environments, there are several regions dealing with this-

http://forums.leoaffairs.com/showthread.php?704161-Open-message-to-Commissioner-Swearingen

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I don't know if RR lied or not...I am concerned that EVERYONE in his chain was never even questioned or stood up for him. Its either failure to supervise or they are also responsible. As a supervisor, I approve every IR and if I read them (especially in the case where a LEO might have committed homicide) and approve them, how can I claim ignorance? Why is MB and the ones who left not ever mentioned? RR did not operate in a vacuum? Pape and others were WAY In the loop to include Bailey on this case and yet RR swings in the wind.

This should be VERY concerning to all of us. Do you think that if you are NOT in the "club" and that if you use force, get firm in an interrogation, or have a bad day that your command and/or the folks at HQ have your back? You WILL be the focus of their wrath! You will have IA after IA.....The mentality of EI is not to find the truth but to make their focus come full circle and to force you out? I have never worked or seen a more petty, self righteous, or shit leadership than FDLE. I mean a ranking individual (CH) in Tallahassee was caught "in a compromising situation" involving a TDY external individual after hours in the office and was fine, but YC in GVille is asked to demote cause someones panties got in a wad? A great leader in PCola is persecuted due to kicking a trash can? But a do nothing special agent (ooops sorry Inspector) who happens to have his law degree gets to travel the world on the states dime and produce nothing? Hell your AC went to the FBI academy , returned after to leave his wife for an instructor and all is good, but sit on his high throne passing judgement on others for similar activities. Your other AC actually left the agency (disloyalty), after pissing off almost EVERY agency to include the FBI (like i care) to return to a 6 figure salary. Lets contunue.....
KS in the keys committed a crime and BB was a tyrant in MROC and is causing multiple law suits, but Vince W was arrested for a BS charge and forced out? Despo get arrested and forced out for petty theft? COME ON........Those of you NOT in the club are all fair game.....and if you THINK you are in the club, you are not! These are not cops. These are ever jocking politicians who think they are MUCH more than they are who could not be in any level 6 encounter or handle the stress of a real LEO situation.

I pray for us going forward. The only reason its better under RS is he knows he is done in 18 months. He accepts this and is building his high 5. GB thought he could do Gov to Gov. RS is trying to minimize and stay under his own radar. Those of you who rise above the radar and make bad mojo will be dealt with.

One of the individuals you referred to should've been fired during the Tim Moore administration. His "extracurricular activities" were well known but he was a golden boy so they looked the other way. Too bad FDLE didn't do IQ tests prior to hiring or he would've never worked for us.

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Anyone would be crazy to want to apply to FDLE right now unless they have problems where they are coming from IMO.