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Unregistered
06-13-2017, 09:56 PM
Does anyone know if FDLE is exempt from the 119 Statues or do they just think they are?

Unregistered
06-14-2017, 12:15 AM
Can you be more specific as to your request and the time taken to comply? This is an interesting thread:

http://forums.leoaffairs.com/showthread.php?703332-FDLE-Public-Records-Non-Compliance-through-non-response-and-delay

Unregistered
06-14-2017, 03:29 AM
They are going to try and figure out who you are, even though public records requests are supposed to be confidential. When the request comes in for a certain thing, you can bet they are trying to guess who it is and what they can do.

So why would a state agency that investigates Public Records violations do such a thing? This topic certainly needs to be looked at to see if they are indeed complying fairly IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYorqnAX-Y0

Unregistered
06-14-2017, 04:07 AM
Does anyone know if FDLE is exempt from the 119 Statues or do they just think they are?

They are not there is a retired SERGEANT or Lieutenant from Davie P.D. Scott McInerney that thinks he's king shit. Probably will until he faces a few Federal Judge's. He picks and chooses who he thinks is going after FDLE and it's his job to make it as difficult as he can to retrieve the records that are open to the Public.

He was one that always strived to be a fed and could only make it to FHP.

Unregistered
06-14-2017, 03:30 PM
How would one go about making them give up public records? The obvious is an attorney but if they hold up every public record you could go broke fighting for your rights. Does anyone know if you win do the judge's make them pay your or your Attorneys fees? That maybe would curtail what they know they are illigally doing?

Unregistered
06-14-2017, 03:34 PM
They are not there is a retired SERGEANT or Lieutenant from Davie P.D. Scott McInerney that thinks he's king shit. Probably will until he faces a few Federal Judge's. He picks and chooses who he thinks is going after FDLE and it's his job to make it as difficult as he can to retrieve the records that are open to the Public.

He was one that always strived to be a fed and could only make it to FHP.

I had the mispleasure of chatting with this guy the other day. He definitely thinks he is the s**t. Give an a**hole a little power and they think they are all that. See you in court Scottie! Typical South Florida A**hole!

Unregistered
06-14-2017, 04:08 PM
Integrity- Doing what's right, even though you don't have to (the old FDLE).

Shady- Doing whatever you can to abuse the system or avoid doing what's right because you can get away with it.

Unregistered
06-14-2017, 06:01 PM
Integrity- Doing what's right, even though you don't have to (the old FDLE).

Shady- Doing whatever you can to abuse the system or avoid doing what's right because you can get away with it.

Couldn't agree more. Worked with many honest FDLE agents in my time. Now you have flunkies from agencies such as Davie PD and there job is to be as CORRUPT and cover as much Corruption as possible until a Judge orders differently. Then what do they care it's us, the taxpayers footing the bill anyway.

Unregistered
06-15-2017, 03:39 PM
Same guy is willing to brush off/ignore unfair treatment/bullying by command staff on low level employees.

Unregistered
06-15-2017, 04:05 PM
Same guy is willing to brush off/ignore unfair treatment/bullying by command staff on low level employees.

Integrity- Doing what's right, even though you don't have to (the old FDLE).

Shady- Doing whatever you can to abuse the system or avoid doing what's right because you can get away with it.

Unregistered
06-16-2017, 05:26 PM
How would one go about making them give up public records? The obvious is an attorney but if they hold up every public record you could go broke fighting for your rights. Does anyone know if you win do the judge's make them pay your or your Attorneys fees? That maybe would curtail what they know they are illigally doing?

If you file a lawsuit for FSS. 119 violations against FDLE and win, they will be forced to pay attorney fees and cost.

It would be very easy, as they generaly will not even look at a records request until 30 days later.

Unregistered
06-16-2017, 10:06 PM
FDLE will continue to not respond to Public Records Requests as long as they can get away with it. They appear to have no desire to comply within any reasonable time. For them, years to give a records request with zero true information being provided to the requestor is acceptable. Keep in mind, when FDLE requests records, they hold the records holder to strict timeframes!

There has been a rumor that FDLE tries to figure out who is making anonymous requests, even though requests are supposed to be anonymous by law. They are not interested in compliance, but figuring out who is doing the request, why they want it, and what damage it could do... and not transparency of state government!

This is the Agency that investigates Public Records Violations also! How crazy is that!

I would suggest reaching out to Pat Gleason, Special Counsel for Open Government at the Florida Attorney General's office and file a full complaint, (850) 245-0140, pat.gleason@myfloridalegal.com.

Unregistered
06-21-2017, 01:00 AM
FDLE's stance appears to be not to respond to anything if they don't have to- just like the RR case.

In the past, I don't believe they had as much to hide, but now they aren't so sure so holding out is their defense.

If you are so sure that your Agency has "INTEGRITY", you should not be worried about transparency!

Unregistered
06-22-2017, 02:52 AM
The new legal counsel sure has a way about him? Can't believe RS and company like this approach.

Unregistered
06-23-2017, 11:57 AM
The new legal counsel sure has a way about him? Can't believe RS and company like this approach.

"newer", younger guy, yep. Has the new school mentality not shared by past administrations. It's a chicken-shit way of running a LE Legal department, especially one that claims to be "elite".

Unregistered
06-23-2017, 07:09 PM
Blah blah blah...

Unregistered
06-24-2017, 06:33 PM
Blah blah blah...

This would qualify as an exquisite FDLE legal response for the current guy!!

Unregistered
06-24-2017, 10:29 PM
This would qualify as an exquisite FDLE legal response for the current guy!!

I must disagree. This statement would be way above any sentence he could form. In other words it's out of his league.