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Unregistered
04-02-2016, 03:28 PM
The Sheriff has made it very clear about pursuits and just how rare they are going to be justified. We have been warned over and over again about strict adherence to policy and that violations will be dealt with. The ability to track your whereabouts, speed, etc 24/7 has also been thoroughly explained to you. After you have been around awhile, you will realize that catching bad guys really is secondary to policies and most especially when it is the focus of the Sheriff himself! For you young guns, if your not vested, guess what, you are not eligible for a disability pension. In addition, work mans comp hoops that you will have to jump through, and if the injury is severe enough where you can no longer do LEO work, you will be decertified and maybe have the opportunity to stay employed around here in a non cert capacity. Wrecks are the number one killer of Leo's. Anybody that thinks the 40hr rip just handed out for extreme speeds and continuing after being shutdown is excessive, had he wrecked and killed somebody doing the exact same thing, he probably would be sent to prison!

Unregistered
04-02-2016, 04:12 PM
Check your facts, this year GUNSHOTS are the number one killer of police.
Not car crashes, you can't effectively police a community if you have a mindset that focused totally on avoiding risks. The people expect criminals to be arrested, not allowed to just drive away in a rental car

Unregistered
04-02-2016, 05:09 PM
Rest assured that civil lawsuits will be coming stemming from this latest pursuit incident resulting in three drowned teens.

If you go against agency policy and pursue and get sued the agency may not represent you because you violated policy. You will be on your own so get ready to shell out money for legal representation and if you lose, having a judgment over your head the rest of your life.

Something to think about....

Unregistered
04-02-2016, 05:27 PM
Check your facts, this year GUNSHOTS are the number one killer of police.
Not car crashes, you can't effectively police a community if you have a mindset that focused totally on avoiding risks. The people expect criminals to be arrested, not allowed to just drive away in a rental car

Fact is, crashes are #2 right behind shootings. So show me where property theft justifies us or someone else dying in a pursuit. Property theft, not car jacking, not armed robbery, property theft. If you cannot wrap your head around that then too bad. You are small minded.

Unregistered
04-02-2016, 05:45 PM
FACT........ if you try to arrest criminals then bad things can happen. I guess you don't get that, major

Unregistered
04-02-2016, 06:50 PM
The last full year of stats show wrecks, besides, this year isn't over yet. The much larger point is driving like a bat out of hell for what a traffic violation in this latest 40hr caper, many bad things can happen, and most of them will not turn out well for you.

Unregistered
04-02-2016, 08:40 PM
The Sheriff has made it very clear about pursuits and just how rare they are going to be justified. We have been warned over and over again about strict adherence to policy and that violations will be dealt with. The ability to track your whereabouts, speed, etc 24/7 has also been thoroughly explained to you. After you have been around awhile, you will realize that catching bad guys really is secondary to policies and most especially when it is the focus of the Sheriff himself! For you young guns, if your not vested, guess what, you are not eligible for a disability pension. In addition, work mans comp hoops that you will have to jump through, and if the injury is severe enough where you can no longer do LEO work, you will be decertified and maybe have the opportunity to stay employed around here in a non cert capacity. Wrecks are the number one killer of Leo's. Anybody that thinks the 40hr rip just handed out for extreme speeds and continuing after being shutdown is excessive, had he wrecked and killed somebody doing the exact same thing, he probably would be sent to prison!


You sound like a little b@$% right now

Unregistered
04-03-2016, 12:27 AM
After reading this thread, it shows perfectly the difference between no experienced deps and those that have been around awhile.

Unregistered
04-03-2016, 12:40 AM
If your scared go to church

Unregistered
04-03-2016, 01:08 AM
[QUOTE=Unregistered;2605260]If your scared go to church[/QUOTE
I tried this once, and now I'm even more scared... The church was in Chicago and the minster was Rev. Wright.. I sat next to a couple by the names of Barack and Michelle, who kept shouting things like "Fuk whitey" and "Black power." It was very scary to say the least...

Unregistered
04-03-2016, 02:06 AM
The Sheriff has made it very clear about pursuits and just how rare they are going to be justified. We have been warned over and over again about strict adherence to policy and that violations will be dealt with. The ability to track your whereabouts, speed, etc 24/7 has also been thoroughly explained to you. After you have been around awhile, you will realize that catching bad guys really is secondary to policies and most especially when it is the focus of the Sheriff himself! For you young guns, if your not vested, guess what, you are not eligible for a disability pension. In addition, work mans comp hoops that you will have to jump through, and if the injury is severe enough where you can no longer do LEO work, you will be decertified and maybe have the opportunity to stay employed around here in a non cert capacity. Wrecks are the number one killer of Leo's. Anybody that thinks the 40hr rip just handed out for extreme speeds and continuing after being shutdown is excessive, had he wrecked and killed somebody doing the exact same thing, he probably would be sent to prison!

"Young guns"... I'm pretty sure it was a sergeant that was right in the middle of it.

Unregistered
04-03-2016, 02:27 AM
Rest assured that civil lawsuits will be coming stemming from this latest pursuit incident resulting in three drowned teens.

If you go against agency policy and pursue and get sued the agency may not represent you because you violated policy. You will be on your own so get ready to shell out money for legal representation and if you lose, having a judgment over your head the rest of your life.

Something to think about....

Except that it wasn't a pursuit, soooo.....

Unregistered
04-03-2016, 12:47 PM
Well of course it wasn't a pursuit or the Sheriff would have to find a deputy for a scapegoat and say he violated policy because we all know we can't chase stolen vehicles. He would then have to destroy that deputy so he does not look like the bad guy because that's what he does. We all know just because your lights are not on doesn't mean it's not a pursuit. I agree with others why couldn't they PIT the car then. Why bother training to PIT if you not going to use it. Good luck to those involved because Bob will hang someone if it looks like his all high and mighty supposed integrity is compromised. He a good example of "do as I say not as I do" because we know if it was him behind the car he would have chased them just like he did with the girl that was DWLSR which also was against his own policy but I don't recall him reprimanding himself.

Unregistered
04-04-2016, 12:30 AM
You cringe and wimper at the thought of any form of collateral damage resulting from catching criminals. Yet, had we pursued that car and used PIT those three kids would be alive.

Funny, how the logic of avoiding people getting hurt results in even more cars fleeing and...wow...people getting hurt...

Maybe we can do a PSA and ask them nicely not to run away from us anymore.

Unregistered
04-04-2016, 04:58 PM
Wow, seems like the dep that got 40hrs off and the three girl death non pursuit are being mingled? They are not related !

Justin Bieber
04-04-2016, 05:55 PM
Wow, seems like the dep that got 40hrs off and the three girl death non pursuit are being mingled? They are not related !

Then tell your boyfriend to drive more careful next time!