Promotions...Or Payoffs

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For all of us who were stupid enough to elect two ex-tpd politicians as our pba reps you can now see what the payoff is. The chief gave him a sgt promotion. He just jumped right over the cpl spot, and all of a sudden a degree is no longer needed because he has none. And not only that, he gets his buddy from tpd the Lt spot. And if you don't believe this then you still believe in Santa Claus. And this tpd major has so much respect for us and our department that he stops by while on duty and in full major uniform to take a tour. How does this new person only spend one year as a Lt at tpd, then one year as a captain and not even a full year as a major at tpd qualify him. And why leave that spot all of a sudden. It's time to vote for someone who won't sell us out like always. How is this new sgt so qualified when all he did at tpd was go to Tallahassee for pba business and spend money until tpd troops wised up and got rid of him. And he has no street supervison here. And it's just not the police officers and traffic specialists that are being looked over. The chief created two new civilian positions without posting them so other people might have a chance. But no money for pay increases. One of them was so disliked in her department that they had to move her out there and give her a office in the back somewhere. Still not sure what she does but I would bet she is getting the same salary. And then the other person is our new criminal analysts with absolutely no experience. And like we need one. And this same person was so inept as the chief's secretary that he had to get rid of her. So let's create a new position for her as a reward. And then the chief hires someone from the outside to be his new secretary. Now let's talk about the chief's integrity. His new secretary also happens to live in the same condo complex where the chief owns a condo he rents out. And in fact, she is on the condo's board of that very same condo complex. Was this made known during the hiring process? Of course not. Conflict of interest? Absolutely! Check her Facebook page and check her friends list. Don't worry if they try to make that go away, it's all been recorded. You can also find all the public record information on the tax collectors and property appraiser's pages recording the properties. All public record. Check it out. But we are just a bunch of stupid minions who work hard everyday but are told that we haven't gone above and beyond. When is the board going to wake up and she what is going on there. Mr L and Mr T should open their eyes. Oh wait, all Mr L's people, according to a recent story on Chanel 10, his executive staff will get between a 7.5 and 10 percent raise each year.

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All great points. But you forgot how much supervison us minions need. We now have a chief, a deputy chief, two captains, four lieutenants, seven sergeants and four corporals for a total of nineteen! Now we may, just may, have a total of 60-65 sworn including that 19. It's hard to keep track between those who are quitting and those who are getting hired. So for argument sake, let's say around 30% of the sworn officers are supervisors. Some very good, some worthless. So I will keep working on my degree. Wait I don't need a degree anymore. No wait, yes I do. I guess I will just go write some speeding tickets.

[Unregistered]

HEY fella maybe you should sober up a bit before sitting down in front in front of a keyboard

[Unregistered]

HEY fella maybe you should sober up a bit before sitting down in front in of a keyboard

[Unregistered]

Thank the Lord, that a minority wasn't selected... Then you'd be crying about that... Maybe you should ask your union reps to ask for Enfamil or similac, because the natural stuff ain't workin' for ya.....

[Unregistered]

Malcontent alert. I choose to look at the 19 supervisory positions as opportunity and not something negative. And for the original post, you sound desperate and disconnected. The conflict of interest/condo conspiracy is utter nonsense. Get real pal; it might be time for you to just move on to another job.

[Unregistered]

Thanks Sarge!

[Unregistered]

Yea thanks for all the input from our newest sergeant and his little crony. The same one sitting in ciu doing nothing but collecting sergeant pay. And is the idiot serious about the 19 supervisor positions as an opportunity. You keep waiting and keep after the proverbial dangling carot. You just may make DC one of these days. Oh wait you might have to be in charge of the bike squad that a simpleton can pass. Maybe we can all be supervisors. We have a supervisor that have lied in IAs and on reports and is gutless. PBA is a complete joke here. But it will get you promoted if you can cover enough crap up.

[Unregistered]

Conspiracy. Before you reply to that again you should check what was written. Because a lot of people have and the facts there are true. And two new positions were never posted. Check their personnel files. Or asked someone that works in there. And don't worry chaser boy. You too will eat the proverbial master's carot. In one hole or the other.

[Unregistered]

What an idiot if you have a mind set that having, now 20 supervisors, is an opportunity. You really must be a loser if you're not one yet. And don't forget our Cracker Jack canine unit. After all you could shovel dog crap for twenty years and become a dc or one very shaky Lt who has no idea what the law is. And yea its opportunities for tpd and naples pd. Can't blame them though. Just disband and let the sheriff's office take over us. The airport gets no revenue from our citations or parking tickets anyway. Let them put it to good use. Well back to work..someone just slipped in the bathroom and five of us are responding.

[Unregistered]

Yea put durkin on the officer oral review board. Who do you think he is going to pull for. Sireci really thinks we are all stupid.

[Unregistered]

The chief brought in a lieutenant and a DC from outside the department, promotes morons, and creates new positions when he feels like it. He thinks we are a bunch of idiots, and why blame him? He's been getting away with this crap for a long time, why stop now? He promotes his INCOMPETENTS and that's why his golf buddy/neighbor/snitch/do-boy had to resign! That's just the beginning of the downfall of the empire -- wait and see. But seriously fellow officers, do you want to be promoted? Get another degree or get on a specialty squad, or get a fellow officer fired or force him/her to quit. Who cares if he or she can't support his or her kids or pay the rent? Me? I'll do it the easy way -- I'm going to learn to blow pipes. Or, maybe I'll just buy a house/condo in the chief's neighborhood. Then again, I can just move on to another job as suggested by Mr./Ms. Optimist who chose to look at the 19 supervisory positions as opportunity and not something negative. That tells me he or she either got one of those plum promotions or hasn't worked for the department long enough to recognize the truth when he/she sees it. I'm not desperate or negative, just a realist. Continue paying your PBA dues, maybe you'll get lucky and actually get some representation if you're related. Maybe someone will adopt me, woo hoo!

[Unregistered]

Aaah --- maybe a minority can get one of the two Sgt. positions that are now available.

[Unregistered]

Not only is the chief messing with our ability to take care of our families in a fair manner, but he is getting such an outrageous salary for this lowly chief's position, as it is considered by many other chiefs in the area. Also, I don't believe the aviation board members, or the public in general, really take into account the added income bonus of his take home car that he has, as well as the three other top brass in the department. Where did these monies come from? And is there any policies in place for them on the defined usage of these vehicles like most agencies have? Or anything that states you must live within a certain radius to your department, or live in the same county where you work to be entitled to that privilege like those same agencies? Of course there is not for him. And we all know how often they all have to respond back the PD during off duty hours. Never to none. And who pays for the gas for those vehicles? How stupid does he really think we are, especially when the new sgt pba tells us there is just no money in the till for us to go above and beyond. But you watch and see if this same pba blowhard will now be put in psu. The very same psu that is in charge of training files like the times and scores for the PAT testing every year. I have money that the new fat boy sgt hasn't past one of those in years.
And if you are going to take up the bag pipes, be sure to get into the polygraph testing business as well. I hear that will do wonders for your advancement to a Lt. position as well, especially if you agree to ignore GOs at certain times.

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Wait..so they PBA rep we are paying for is in charge of the same unit that does IAs. If it wasn't so insane it would be funny. That is the same unit that the cowardly sgt was in at one time also. I think I see a trend here. Let's not be so stupid. Time to start voicing complaints to the right people. And no that's not the PBA.

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What is the problem? The average officer will still do his/her 1 to 2 reports a month. It doesn't matter who plays the tunes that we dance to. A lot of anger for someone who isn't going anywhere with it.( tell someone asshat) As to the new job postings, you have a point but logic never enters into decisions here.

[Unregistered]

So I would guess the problem the huge turn over rate. And if we are only doing one or two reports a month then I would guess everyone here will soon be retired on duty if not already. So why even tell anyone of all the problems here. If they don't know by now then shame on them. Great gig until something serious does happen, God forbid. And some of the people that do in fact know what they are doing on not on duty. Then who does the blame fall on? The chief and all those promotions he has made. He has the ultimate responsibility.

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If you are of a certain race and you violate policies it does not negatively impact your chances of promotions. However, if you have nothing in your IA file or any discipline noted and you are of a particular race your chances of promotion are little to none. I can see how that works, just look at the supervisors for confirmation, don't be fooled by the appointment of the new A/C.

[Unregistered]

Has nothing to do with race. It has to do with cliques.

[Unregistered]

You are exactly right about being a certain race and not getting promoted. And it's not only in the police department, but look at airport's entire executive staff as well. And it's not just only the one race, but seems to be any other race than Caucasian. Just an opinion be stated. Look at the recent promotions. No degree needed all of a sudden for a chief's pba buddy. And why does a person who states he was the second coming of Christ at tpd for all those years need to be a sgt here. He couldn't make it as one over there. Let someone willing to put the time in and do everything else that is required, be able to advance in their career. Not someone who was never in ciu, or when he was couldn't keep his eyes open. You had your chance! And did the chief need to go the whole way to his old department in Naples to find a capable minority to be DC. Sounds like the good old buddy system is firmly in place. Look at the miniature cowardly sgt we just got rid of. Friend of the chief that had lied on reports before. Many other people would have been fired on the spot the first time, and rightly so, when they had lied in an IA.

[Unregistered]

Today is a good day to refocus our efforts on safety/security and not be distracted by administrative issues. The most qualified candidate should always be promoted regardless of race and gender. We must do our best each day and exceed what is expected of us by our fellow officers and supervisors, not just our own. Just my opinion. Be safe out there.

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Very encouraging words. But you either do not work here, or are one of the new recent promotions or new hire. Because if you think what has been described in these post as "administration issues", you do not have a true grasp of how it is to work here. There is no brotherhood here, or any hope for a well qualified officer to simply go out and do a great job and feel they have an opportunity for advancement. But thank you for your wishes of being safe.

[Unregistered]

There is no brotherhood here

This ^^^ is what bothers me most about working here. New officers always seem to do fine for the first couple years even hang out with each other and become friends with each other. The older officers seem to keep a social distance from most others with the exception of maybe a few people they have known & trust for a LONG time. I'm kind of in the middle of the seniority pack but the longer I work here the more I find myself drifting in the direction of keeping a distance. You start to feel burned by people you once trusted and realize its just best to keep your distance and not get caught up in gossip that could come back to bite you. Managment won't promote or put into a speciality unit the cops that seem to know what their doing for general dislike and not being in the right clique, when they do have someone who they like in their clique they ignore the rules THEY set in place to move the person they want. Once they have there mind made up about someone then that person is labeled a certain way forever.

[Unregistered]

I don't even know what to say about this idiot. Enjoy your new stripes. I'm sure you have all the answers since you are so new and have had such a fabulous and storied career. That's how you ended up here as one of our new and more insightful supervisors. That was probably one of the most moronic post about this place on this website. And sadly it was probably plagiarized from a memo that had handed to you.

[Unregistered]

Could not have said it any better. Maybe if that idiot keeps trying, all these posts may eventually move from the top and some poor soul will read that, and think what a great place this is with their master plan. Master plan to turn it over to the HCSO at the rate this command staff is going. Don't get fooled.

[Unregistered]

If you are a miserable, complaining, malcontent who believes that his or her best just isn’t good enough to be recognized at this department; don’t worry because you’re not alone. You exist in every department throughout this country. My guess is that you could leave this place and in a few short years you’d be on another board spewing the same garbage. Maybe try TPD; I’m sure with your stellar work ethic and positive attitude you’d be promoted in no time flat.

[Unregistered]

Or maybe I can try new mexico or the coast guard. We have enough losers from tpd. Enjoy your stripes do boy

[Unregistered]

Id worry about the new patrol supervisors. Cant do and Still chasin.

[Unregistered]

By far this is the most concise, truthful post. Problem is mr l and mr t know
for all of us who were stupid enough to elect two ex-tpd politicians as our pba reps you can now see what the payoff is. The chief gave him a sgt promotion. He just jumped right over the cpl spot, and all of a sudden a degree is no longer needed because he has none. And not only that, he gets his buddy from tpd the lt spot. And if you don't believe this then you still believe in santa claus. And this tpd major has so much respect for us and our department that he stops by while on duty and in full major uniform to take a tour. How does this new person only spend one year as a lt at tpd, then one year as a captain and not even a full year as a major at tpd qualify him. And why leave that spot all of a sudden. It's time to vote for someone who won't sell us out like always. How is this new sgt so qualified when all he did at tpd was go to tallahassee for pba business and spend money until tpd troops wised up and got rid of him. And he has no street supervison here. And it's just not the police officers and traffic specialists that are being looked over. The chief created two new civilian positions without posting them so other people might have a chance. But no money for pay increases. One of them was so disliked in her department that they had to move her out there and give her a office in the back somewhere. Still not sure what she does but i would bet she is getting the same salary. And then the other person is our new criminal analysts with absolutely no experience. And like we need one. And this same person was so inept as the chief's secretary that he had to get rid of her. So let's create a new position for her as a reward. And then the chief hires someone from the outside to be his new secretary. Now let's talk about the chief's integrity. His new secretary also happens to live in the same condo complex where the chief owns a condo he rents out. And in fact, she is on the condo's board of that very same condo complex. Was this made known during the hiring process? Of course not. Conflict of interest? Absolutely! Check her facebook page and check her friends list. Don't worry if they try to make that go away, it's all been recorded. You can also find all the public record information on the tax collectors and property appraiser's pages recording the properties. All public record. Check it out. But we are just a bunch of stupid minions who work hard everyday but are told that we haven't gone above and beyond. When is the board going to wake up and she what is going on there. Mr l and mr t should open their eyes. Oh wait, all mr l's people, according to a recent story on chanel 10, his executive staff will get between a 7.5 and 10 percent raise each year.

[Unregistered]

Totally agree about the concisely written assessment and the facts stated. I just hope, and don't want to believe the executive staff at the airport does not know that this is in going on in their police department.


For all of us who were stupid enough to elect two ex-tpd politicians as our pba reps you can now see what the payoff is. The chief gave him a sgt promotion. He just jumped right over the cpl spot, and all of a sudden a degree is no longer needed because he has none. And not only that, he gets his buddy from tpd the Lt spot. And if you don't believe this then you still believe in Santa Claus. And this tpd major has so much respect for us and our department that he stops by while on duty and in full major uniform to take a tour. How does this new person only spend one year as a Lt at tpd, then one year as a captain and not even a full year as a major at tpd qualify him. And why leave that spot all of a sudden. It's time to vote for someone who won't sell us out like always. How is this new sgt so qualified when all he did at tpd was go to Tallahassee for pba business and spend money until tpd troops wised up and got rid of him. And he has no street supervison here. And it's just not the police officers and traffic specialists that are being looked over. The chief created two new civilian positions without posting them so other people might have a chance. But no money for pay increases. One of them was so disliked in her department that they had to move her out there and give her a office in the back somewhere. Still not sure what she does but I would bet she is getting the same salary. And then the other person is our new criminal analysts with absolutely no experience. And like we need one. And this same person was so inept as the chief's secretary that he had to get rid of her. So let's create a new position for her as a reward. And then the chief hires someone from the outside to be his new secretary. Now let's talk about the chief's integrity. His new secretary also happens to live in the same condo complex where the chief owns a condo he rents out. And in fact, she is on the condo's board of that very same condo complex. Was this made known during the hiring process? Of course not. Conflict of interest? Absolutely! Check her Facebook page and check her friends list. Don't worry if they try to make that go away, it's all been recorded. You can also find all the public record information on the tax collectors and property appraiser's pages recording the properties. All public record. Check it out. But we are just a bunch of stupid minions who work hard everyday but are told that we haven't gone above and beyond. When is the board going to wake up and she what is going on there. Mr L and Mr T should open their eyes. Oh wait, all Mr L's people, according to a recent story on Chanel 10, his executive staff will get between a 7.5 and 10 percent raise each year.

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Morale is at an all time low. None of these so called decisions make any sense other than it's still the good old boy network. Rules and policies change daily to fit the circumstances or person. Not that it's ethical, or even moral. Also, what ever happened to employee incentive awards? When an employee was awarded some type of major achievement,(and not for taking a stuffed toy animal around) a monetary award came along with it. Sometimes up to $5k. Isn't amazing how all the little things like that, or even the 3% matching seem to have disappeared, either for good or for long periods of time. Who has that money gone to? Now civil service has disappeared. So they don't have to answer to anyone but themselves.

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No wonder the other departments laugh at TIAPD. You really need to work there to see how silly it is. You can't make this stuff up.

Our employee surveys are skewed. It was only because all the surveys told the same story that Osborn was fired. We need to do that to the next one who should be fired. Yes, the chief should know what is going on in the department but he obviously doesn't. The executive staff didn't know about Osborne until the ENTIRE department wrote him up in the surveys. And then it took a while to get the ball rolling for his demise. That's the process. We, as a department, need to do the same to the Chief. Then, and only then, will the execs start to realize all is not well. They only know what our disconnected Chief tells them until he is proved a liar by a unanimous survey that cannot be ignored.

[Unregistered]

You guys are a bunch of complaining little *****es. Be glad you have a job! The Chief has his job cut out to deal with a bunch of malcontents.

[Unregistered]

Do you work here? The chief has no idea what is going on.

[Unregistered]

I do. These comments makes it seem like you are inside the Chiefs head. For the work we do we are more than appropriately compensated. You have a right to your opinion it is obvious you feel miss treated or passed over for promotion, so maybe it's time for you to move on, instead of trying to start a revolt to maybe get a chief that really doesn't give a shit. If you don't like the Chief and the work environment here why don't you leave and go to another agency or have you tried but not been able to qualify for another location. Some of us do this JOB for the JOB not the money and perks. Be a warrior not a worrier. My rant is done stay safe and I hope you eventually find peace.

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I do. These comments makes it seem like you are inside the Chiefs head. For the work we do we are more than appropriately compensated. You have a right to your opinion it is obvious you feel miss treated or passed over for promotion, so maybe it's time for you to move on, instead of trying to start a revolt to maybe get a chief that really doesn't give a shit. If you don't like the Chief and the work environment here why don't you leave and go to another agency or have you tried but not been able to qualify for another location. Some of us do this JOB for the JOB not the money and perks. Be a warrior not a worrier. My rant is done stay safe and I hope you eventually find peace.

Sounds like someone who is the recipient of a handout. Still, you don't pay cops for what they do, but what they might have to do. Good compensation attracts quality applicants and quality applicants equal quality hires. Quality hires reduce liability to the department, conduct themselves more professionally, and are more capable. Your going to continue having recruiting and morale problems until something is done about pay and the micromanaging around here. There are too many supervisors trying to justify their existance by nitpicking everything and looking for ways to write up their troops.

[Unregistered]

its not about handouts.. It's about trying to be positive and enjoying what you do everyday. People love saying what the problem is but never stating or proposing a solution. It is sad if you have supervisors that are trying to hammer you. That has not been my experience.. If I am doing the right thing I will challenge any supervisor to punish me for that. You don't hesitate to attack the Chief I can't see how you would back down from any supervisor. I struggled searching for a job, guess I am still just greatfull to have one. I try not to drink the poison hoping it will hurt someone else. It was not my intent to insult your position on the state of affairs. Be safe!

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Those that complain and cry about everything have never had to look for a job never been unemployed always had it handed to them. The agency didn't look for you you came to the agency and asked to work there no ones fault but your own if you didn't do your research and know what you were getting into. Don't like it leave fast food is paying 15 bucks an hour at some places.

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I do. These comments makes it seem like you are inside the Chiefs head. For the work we do we are more than appropriately compensated. You have a right to your opinion it is obvious you feel miss treated or passed over for promotion, so maybe it's time for you to move on, instead of trying to start a revolt to maybe get a chief that really doesn't give a shit. If you don't like the Chief and the work environment here why don't you leave and go to another agency or have you tried but not been able to qualify for another location. Some of us do this JOB for the JOB not the money and perks. Be a warrior not a worrier. My rant is done stay safe and I hope you eventually find peace.

Why don't you go back to tpd or just retire. And let somebody who doesn't want multiple retirement incomes have an opportunity. You are fooling no one with your rant, and your need to sound intelligent. It sounds if though it is you who needs to find peace by justifying your so called "warrior" mentally.

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No my friend I am not leaving, I am gonna try to make this place a better place to work. Why should I leave? I am happy you are the disgruntled one. It's sad you keep blaming the TPD guys for coming over. What did they ever do to you, except be more professional and better cops (not scoffed). you feel I am saying these things for the handouts I received, I believe you are acting the way you do because you did not receive a handout. So let's leave it like this you build your army to destroy the Chief and Mr. T's vision of the police. I will build an army to defend it. Then we will see who has more "warriors". So let's agree to disagree and move on.

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No my friend I am not leaving, I am gonna try to make this place a better place to work. Why should I leave? I am happy you are the disgruntled one. It's sad you keep blaming the TPD guys for coming over. What did they ever do to you, except be more professional and better cops (not scofield). you feel I am saying these things for the handouts I received, I believe you are acting the way you do because you did not receive a handout. So let's leave it like this you build your army to destroy the Chief and Mr. T's vision of the police. I will build an army to defend it. Then we will see who has more "warriors". So let's agree to disagree and move on.

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Thank you for the confirmation on what is being said about you tpd guys looking for a second retirement only. And you write about building "your" army, and yet you then write about this being the Chief's department. But the current tpd guys know you do have a history of doing exactly what a chief wants you to do, including testifying in court about how officers were trained, or not trained. Building an army...seriously you need to get help with your anger issues. You're just another officer who thinks the Chief will let you all turn this into a tpd retirement home. If tpd is such a professional agency, then why did you leave? That's right you needed another pension. But let's see how you feel in a year or so.

[Unregistered]

Funniest part is I am not from TPD!! Secondly you won't be here in a year!

[Unregistered]

Woooohoooo, keyboard kommandos. Jk, this place is all about groups and who has the Dons ear. In all the turmoil the chief has come through unscathed everytime. Just wait for the middle management to mess up enough to get reassigned. Dont hate the players hate the game.

[Unregistered]

It's dangerous to assume you know those who are posting here. Anyone can act a part on an anonymous forum.

[Unregistered]

An army of one

[Unregistered]

It all comes back to one person's decisions...the chief. He has the ultimate say in the promotions and assignments. All this bickering is on him and his lack of leadership. No one else is to blame.

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No my friend I am not leaving, I am gonna try to make this place a better place to work. Why should I leave? I am happy you are the disgruntled one. It's sad you keep blaming the TPD guys for coming over. What did they ever do to you, except be more professional and better cops (not scofield). you feel I am saying these things for the handouts I received, I believe you are acting the way you do because you did not receive a handout. So let's leave it like this you build your army to destroy the Chief and Mr. T's vision of the police. I will build an army to defend it. Then we will see who has more "warriors". So let's agree to disagree and move on.

Well now...........it can only be stated emphatically by all, if Durkin and John Pryor are now part of the TIAPD "brotherhood", then
the TPD "brotherhood" is dancing in the street. LOL

[John Preyer]

My name is John Preyer. I work midnights. Come find me and read the proper spelling of my name on my name tag.

[Unregistered]

My name is John Preyer. I work midnights. Come find me and read the proper spelling of my name on my name tag.

Yep....knew and know how to spell your name..."lips". Would love to speak with you up and personal....maybe at the end of October when I am picking up a passenger.

Doesn't take much to get you all riled up does it. I guess you have turned into a real pistol over the years....Got me real scared now...LOL

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"Lips" is real intimidating, especially to the administration girls, or the new officers who don't know any better. Yes he is a real tough guy over here now. Lol