Soar suspension

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I work the Fort Myers district. My sergeant just questioned why I had 30 minutes without a contact on my TSDR. I was told by my sergeant that according to our Captain, Conner Cardwell, there will will be suspensions from working SOAR if Troopers are not producing. Supposedly, that is coming down from Tallahassee. Has anyone else heard this? Can they actually suspend you from working SOAR if you are not writing 1 ticket every 30 minutes?

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I was told the same thing here in Fort Myers. The captain had a meeting with the sergeants the other day and told them about it. He said that if Troopers are not producing during SOAR, he will start weekly suspensions from working SOAR. He doesn't has to suspend me, I stopped working it altogether.

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I would live to see this happen. Sounds like a valid Union issue here. I see PBA getting lots of phone calls. And no, I work Troop B and I haven't heard any of this coming from GHQ.

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I thought the "quota" that doesn't exist is 2 contacts per hour. Is it being reduced to 1 contact every half hour? Ask the Captain to put it in writing.

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In Fort Myers the captain makes the sergeants question 1 ticket per half hour on the TSDR. Yes, my sergeant also told us on a squad meeting here in Fort Myers about the suspension for non-producers.

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This SOAR thing is becoming ridiculous and getting out of hand. Someone needs to write to the governor.

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This SOAR thing is becoming ridiculous and getting out of hand. Someone needs to write to the governor.

No, they don't to write the governor (right, because he's so sympathetic to the conditions of state employees) They need to call and write the organization that supposedly represents the interests of Troopers, the PBA. Of course this is a bargaining agreement issue. *If* this is true, and not just some (more) Ft. Myers bullshit, the PBA needs to jump on it.

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Send the Colonel a message, oh never mind, we don't have a Colonel..

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From up in north Florida. We are being told a x50 every 20 minutes or you're questioned. Don't know about suspensions.


My advise is stop working SOAR and ODPE, and get approved for a second job. Safest route these days.

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Well I hear no matter how many contacts, you are questioned about all of your SOAR time. And your exact 10-20 during SOAR, and then it is checked via GHQ on the AVL. Any anomalies, then OIG slaps the tracker on you for a few weeks. What else can they do to make it clear they DONT want you to work SOAR?

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Well I hear no matter how many contacts, you are questioned about all of your SOAR time. And your exact 10-20 during SOAR, and then it is checked via GHQ on the AVL. Any anomalies, then OIG slaps the tracker on you for a few weeks. What else can they do to make it clear they DONT want you to work SOAR?

If you are working then what's the problem??? As I understand the only ones who got into trouble were the ones not working but wanting the OT check.

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Nothing changes in Ft. Myers the same old same old all the time. Poor supervision has created these problems over the years. Ft. Myers has been a sewer for a good 20 years now.

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If you are working then what's the problem??? As I understand the only ones who got into trouble were the ones not working but wanting the OT check.

No the rule or quota was two an hour then go home when Lieutenants and Captains worked it. Now it is one every twenty minutes and you better do your tsdr, notes, laser and radar log on the side of the road not your driveway.

Easy fix I stopped working it.

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In Troop H, we have to turn in a TSDR with our SOAR sheets and you better have two traffic stops per hour of SOAR or an explanation why you don't. If you don't have an explanation then you have to take the SOAR hours back that you did not have 2 traffic stops in a hour..

The OIG office recently "audited" the 25 SOAR earners across the state. I thought it was interesting they chose to target 25 people out of 1900 but they did.. I know of the 25 they found 8 to be in violation. This was per the supervisors meeting.

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In Troop H, we have to turn in a TSDR with our SOAR sheets and you better have two traffic stops per hour of SOAR or an explanation why you don't. If you don't have an explanation then you have to take the SOAR hours back that you did not have 2 traffic stops in a hour..

The OIG office recently "audited" the 25 SOAR earners across the state. I thought it was interesting they chose to target 25 people out of 1900 but they did.. I know of the 25 they found 8 to be in violation. This was per the supervisors meeting.

They found more than eight... Statewide.

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Eventually, they this mentality will spread from overtime projects to the regular shift - where every minute, and action or inaction is scrutinized for review all the time by OIG or a higher level.

We have so many rules, regulations and memos to follow as it is, it's nearly impossible to always do it perfect. Those of you that say "If you just do your job, you have nothing to worry about" are stupid and ignorant. JUST doing your job doesn't cut it anymore.

Simple, harmless mistakes or errors that are easily corrected and cost the state absolutely nothing (nor cast the state in a bad image) are ultimately costing career veterans their employment.

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Eventually, they this mentality will spread from overtime projects to the regular shift - where every minute, and action or inaction is scrutinized for review all the time by OIG or a higher level.

We have so many rules, regulations and memos to follow as it is, it's nearly impossible to always do it perfect. Those of you that say "If you just do your job, you have nothing to worry about" are stupid and ignorant. JUST doing your job doesn't cut it anymore.

Simple, harmless mistakes or errors that are easily corrected and cost the state absolutely nothing (nor cast the state in a bad image) are ultimately costing career veterans their employment.

That's because the patrol don't want veterans anymore. They don't want people staying more than 5 years, that way they can keep paying these high school kids 32000 a year, and they don't get a chance to learn the system with the can and can't do by management.

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That's because the patrol don't want veterans anymore. They don't want people staying more than 5 years, that way they can keep paying these high school kids 32000 a year, and they don't get a chance to learn the system with the can and can't do by management.

The perfect employee leaves or is run off in five years the save all that pension money.

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It must be really bad in Ft. Myers they have drug out their Johnson card again. Post all the lies you want about the guy but it will never change the disgrace called Ft. Myers FHP.

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It must be really bad in Ft. Myers they have drug out their Johnson card again. Post all the lies you want about the guy but it will never change the disgrace called Ft. Myers FHP.

Quit coming on here BJ, you are gone, get a life perv.

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Quit coming on here BJ, you are gone, get a life perv.

Sergeant Cooper, Johnson has been retired for many years now what the hell does he have to do with anything going on today? Quit trying to drag the guy into every thread about Ft. Myers. Most of the troopers in the district have never met the guy and don't even know him. At some point you are going to have to admit that he was not the problem in Ft. Myers. If you stop and look back the guy has not worked in Ft. Myers for almost a decade and a half now and has been retire for over half a decade from FHP.

Look in the mirror Cooper and you will see one of Ft. Myers biggest problems looking back at you.

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Socks anyone? Bill get a life, you have been gone a for a while on your forced retirement. You are not coming back, go and look at some of your favorite past time, porn.

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Socks anyone? Bill get a life, you have been gone a for a while on your forced retirement. You are not coming back, go and look at some of your favorite past time, porn.

William Johnson x - alligator alley sergeant was always a disaster I'm glad they made him retire. Sneaky weasel, go get some chewing gum you stinky breath. And stop liking your lips when you see a woman you perv.

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From up in north Florida. We are being told a x50 every 20 minutes or you're questioned. Don't know about suspensions.


My advise is stop working SOAR and ODPE, and get approved for a second job. Safest route these days.

I agree with you for soar odpe is not an issue when you do it right its the lesser of the two evils along with 208D

[fightnight]

Rocket rocket fire

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They are killing us up here in Troop C. My sergeant bit the dust for messing up. I am scared to death about getting in trouble. I need the money bad but don't want to lose my job

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They are killing us up here in Troop C. My sergeant bit the dust for messing up. I am scared to death about getting in trouble. I need the money bad but don't want to lose my job


Hey buddy it is kind of simple, say you are 10-08 on SOAR for six hours; be out there working for six hours. If your want to go home after three hours then go home and log off when you do. Don't front load activity and sit at the house for half the time you worked. Be square with your time, if you do that, there would be nothing to see when the Gestapo checks your AVL against your SOAR time.

[Why so stress]

Why so mush stress in do fhp? I think fhp is great policing job? Me think application den me reed forum an me see you stress mush trooper having lots problem

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They are killing us up here in Troop C. My sergeant bit the dust for messing up. I am scared to death about getting in trouble. I need the money bad but don't want to lose my job


Who was your Sgt?

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Well they picked my sergeant's stuff. He is done and I fear I am next. It is getting hot here in Troop c

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The Sgt got what he deserved!

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It used to be that Troopers got fired for 2 things, 208 and woman. Now is 3, 208"Woman"SOAR. That's why less people are working it including myself, the 21 dollars overtime an hour are not worth the headache. Getting questioned why I didn't wrote a ticket in 20 minutes. I hope they take it away all together.

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It used to be that Troopers got fired for 2 things, 208 and woman. Now is 3, 208"Woman"SOAR. That's why less people are working it including myself, the 21 dollars overtime an hour are not worth the headache. Getting questioned why I didn't wrote a ticket in 20 minutes. I hope they take it away all together.


Maybe horrible grammar should be added to the list..........woman, wrote, really.......

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I have to agree. The Sgt in Polk deserved it. He has been "living off the State" for years!!!! Got what was coming to him.

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Polk is a joke starting with the Captain. Morale is horrible along with supervision. Lakeland needs people who actually know how to do the job, on the road and as a supervisor. No more rejects from other counties who get reprimanded and brought over just to sit on their lazy a$$ and make the district worse! It takes A LOT to make Polk look worse yet somehow it was done!!! HOW IS IT THAT POSSIBLE you ask.....MV!!

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If you all are smart, you would all stop working SOAR immediately, statewide. Stop empowering these micromanagers, when the activity is no longer coming in then they can all stand around wondering what happened. STOP now.

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The Sgt got what he deserved!

Yea a great retirement while you are still working!

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Polk is a joke starting with the Captain. Morale is horrible along with supervision. Lakeland needs people who actually know how to do the job, on the road and as a supervisor. No more rejects from other counties who get reprimanded and brought over just to sit on their lazy a$$ and make the district worse! It takes A LOT to make Polk look worse yet somehow it was done!!! HOW IS IT THAT POSSIBLE you ask.....MV!!

And who are those rejects! You are for one. You just keep hanging with your buddy the parkway Sgt. Let us know how that works out for you!

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The Sgt got what he deserved!

You say that until you are the next target!

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Maybe horrible grammar should be added to the list..........woman, wrote, really.......

Hey **** wipe, this ain't English 101. It's an informal forum, if you want proper grammar go to a cultural forum. It's called speech recognition app on the smartphones then hit send. .

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Hey **** wipe, this ain't English 101. It's an informal forum, if you want proper grammar go to a cultural forum. It's called speech recognition app on the smartphones then hit send. .

So you are saying you talk as poorly as you write?

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So you are saying you talk as poorly as you write?

I talk as poorly as the woman that gave birth to you. Did I spell that right? Woman?

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So you are saying you talk as poorly as you write?

My Samsung only understands Korean. Sorry, I don't an I-Phone.

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;2185721]And who are those rejects! You are for one. You just keep hanging with your buddy the parkway Sgt. Let us know how that works out for you![/QUOTE

awww, sounds like you got your feelings hurt. seems like you may be part of the reject clan.

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I talk as poorly as the woman that gave birth to you. Did I spell that right? Woman?

So you concede the fact that you can't spell and your phone has nothing to do with your poor abilities?

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So you concede the fact that you can't spell and your phone has nothing to do with your poor abilities?

Ha ha , SUCK IT.

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Ha ha , SUCK IT.

Yoooo telling him sucky sucky !!

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So you are saying you talk as poorly as you write?

What is a **** wipe? I googled it on my smart phone and nothing comes up.......I am well aware this is a public forum, but really.... How did you get hired? They are putting just anyone through the academy these days, I guess. All you make is $21.00 an hour overtime. Awwwwwwh, poor rookie, 10-65 S4...

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What is a **** wipe? I googled it on my smart phone and nothing comes up.......I am well aware this is a public forum, but really.... How did you get hired? They are putting just anyone through the academy these days, I guess. All you make is $21.00 an hour overtime. Awwwwwwh, poor rookie, 10-65 S4...

I guess you most have a college degree if you don't know what a **** wipe is. Nerd. Ask anyone who served in the Army.