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08-05-2013, 12:17 AM
Looks like some wanna be meatheads are unemployed! Can't say they didn't deserve it! :D

http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20 ... o-deputies (http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20130804/ARTICLE/130809851/2416/NEWS?Title=NEW-Manatee-sheriff-confirms-firing-of-two-deputies)

08-05-2013, 01:37 PM
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20130804/ARTICLE/130809851/2416/NEWS?Title=Manatee-sheriff-confirms-internal-investigation
One fired
One resigned
No comment from sheriff as to possible criminal charges

08-05-2013, 08:21 PM
another resigned this afternoon. WTF is deal

08-05-2013, 10:07 PM
MANATEE COUNTY - Sheriff’s officials have confirmed the names of the three deputies involved in an internal investigation.

Deputy Thomas Peel has been terminated, while deputies Tom Frank and Chris Tucker resigned.

http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20130805/BREAKING/130809819/2416/NEWS?Title=Manatee-sheriff-confirms-names-of-3-deputies-who-resigned

08-05-2013, 10:42 PM
Roids... :evil:

08-06-2013, 12:09 AM
I was expecting a D3 Lt with anger issues to be on the list!!! :lol:

08-06-2013, 01:07 AM
THIS IS YOUR BALL SAC........

THIS IS YOUR BALL SAC ON ROIDS..........

NOW THIS IS YOU ON THE UNEMPLOYMENT LINE........

ANY QUESTIONS?

08-06-2013, 02:18 PM
Baldmen Investments, Inc.

08-06-2013, 04:41 PM
Roids... :evil:
Steroids shouldn’t be a problem :idea: most leo agencies randomly test for it. After they started doing it where I work the bulked up guys suddenly went back to normal.

08-06-2013, 05:33 PM
sheriff Steube runs a tiiiight ship. Not even a slim chance that steroid abuse happens here, just the other day I had to take a pee test according to the sheriffs strict policy against drug use.It's about the 5th time I had to give a sample since he was sheriff, now you know that its strictly random and you never know when, that makes for a cleeeean work place so I can't complain. Steube, he's the man!!!

08-06-2013, 06:35 PM
sheriff Steube runs a tiiiight ship. Not even a slim chance that steroid abuse happens here, just the other day I had to take a pee test according to the sheriffs strict policy against drug use.It's about the 5th time I had to give a sample since he was sheriff, now you know that its strictly random and you never know when, that makes for a cleeeean work place so I can't complain. Steube, he's the man!!!

Then how did these 3 get through for soooooo loooong?????

08-06-2013, 08:50 PM
Then how did these 3 get through for soooooo loooong?????

EXACTLY RIGHT

08-06-2013, 08:59 PM
sheriff Steube runs a tiiiight ship. Not even a slim chance that steroid abuse happens here, just the other day I had to take a pee test according to the sheriffs strict policy against drug use.It's about the 5th time I had to give a sample since he was sheriff, now you know that its strictly random and you never know when, that makes for a cleeeean work place so I can't complain. Steube, he's the man!!!
Stated in jest I presume, been here long time no pee

08-07-2013, 03:05 PM
Urine tests do not test for steroids...you would have to have blood or hair tested.

08-07-2013, 06:41 PM
Urine tests do not test for steroids...you would have to have blood or hair tested.
Only half true. Steroids don’t show up on the MSO pi$$ test because MSO doesn’t request it as part of the urine drug screen.

STEROIDS ARE DETECTABLE IN URINE your drug IQ is mind boggling awful, you should be asking why MSO doesn’t screen for steroids :wink: blind eye syndrome

08-07-2013, 07:07 PM
STEROIDS ARE DETECTABLE IN URINE your drug IQ is mind boggling awful, you should be asking why MSO doesn’t screen for steroids :wink: blind eye syndrome

Drug-free policies at Port Manatee not followed
http://www.bradenton.com/2013/08/07/4648015/port-manatee-report-indicates.html

see_nothing_do_nothing is a tradition in this county

08-08-2013, 02:32 PM
I was expecting a D3 Lt with anger issues to be on the list!!! :lol:
oooooooohhhhhhh

08-08-2013, 02:48 PM
ABC7 wrote:
http://www.mysuncoast.com/news/local/dea-now-part-of-investigation-into-former-manatee-county-deputies/article_b1e9a786-ffa7-11e2-a5e7-0019bb30f31a.html

MANATEE COUNTY - More information has been released in an investigation involving three former Manatee County Sheriff's Deputies.
One day after the sheriff's office confirmed the termination and resignation of the deputies for behavior unbecoming of a law enforcement officer, ABC 7 has learned that the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency is getting involved.
The DEA sent us a statement saying the matter is part of an ongoing investigation. Therefore, they are not able to comment any further.
A source did tell us that the deputies may have been involved in a drug ring that sold performance enhancement substances.

08-08-2013, 02:58 PM
Baldmen Investments, Inc.


Outside employment requires a request form approved by the dept :lol:

A P P R O V E D

08-08-2013, 03:23 PM
Sample moonlighting policies for law enforcement personnel
http://www.mrsc.org/artdocmisc/lgpimoonlight.pdf

08-08-2013, 04:38 PM
sheriff Steube runs a tiiiight ship. !!

He took over as sheriff 2007 six yrs ago give some credit for the Leadership
He made the shifts so that employees have blocks of time off to do second jobs
He made a policy about outside employment putting MSO employment Priority One and no funny stuff with secondary jobs or income
He does enforce the drugfree policy and keeps up random drug testing yes, including Steroids

08-08-2013, 05:34 PM
sheriff Steube runs a tiiiight ship. !!He made the shifts so that employees have blocks of time off to do second jobs
PART OF THE PROBLEM, ENABLING :roll:



sheriff Steube runs a tiiiight ship. !!He made a policy about outside employment putting MSO employment Priority One and no funny stuff with secondary jobs or income
GET A REPORTER TO VERIFY THAT :lol:



sheriff Steube runs a tiiiight ship. !!He does enforce the drugfree policy and keeps up random drug testing yes, including Steroids
B U L L 100% :!:

08-08-2013, 06:16 PM
how did these 3 get through for soooooo loooong?????
“drug testing must be applied equally to each employee”
No time like NOW to test them ALL to makeup for the sheriffs lapse.I think we need a baseline to go forward in light of the term “drug ring” involving MCSO deputies.

08-08-2013, 07:24 PM
how did these 3 get through for soooooo loooong?????
“drug testing must be applied equally to each employee”
No time like NOW to test them ALL.

That’s too expensive!!?? Got it figured out for you sheriff. Now you currently serve big cafetria lunch at the jail compound and who gets to eat? Jail employees, who else? Civilians,their families, brass from your staff, any one who attends a training class and any one in on the secret. Who else? Politicians you give tours to, chamber members, Port Manatee. Menue is beef, chicken, sides, salad, cole slaw, bread, beverages, cakes, pies all for 3 bucks. Tables are always packed and little kids running around and full bellies walking out. Up the price to the normal cost of a lunch $10 or $15 and there’s your money, even more if you advertise the menue and let the public in on the good deal instead of giving a food subsidy to your associates on the tax payer dime. Winner winner chicken dinner!!!

08-08-2013, 09:09 PM
Then how did these 3 get through for soooooo loooong?????
http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-28654476_ITM
punching a handcuffed suspect in the head
roidy back in Dec 2000

08-08-2013, 11:08 PM
The news just keeps getting worse :(

ABC 7 News has learned that the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency has an active investigation underway involving the Manatee County Sheriff’s Department and may extend beyond the Sherriff’s department to other municipal agencies in Manatee County
http://www.mysuncoast.com/news/local/dea-probes-manatee-county-sheriff-s-office/article_b1e9a786-ffa7-11e2-a5e7-0019bb30f31a.html

So it seems like they moved a bit slow to arrest the Port Manatee drug clown. Was there pressure from the feds to make MCSO finally move on that? Dunno but what a coincidence that now we’re talking about a drug ring in Steube’s department. We can only hope all the clowns are talking. It’d be something if Gov. Rick Scott appointed an interim sheriff while DEA gets to the bottom of it. Years in the making, it seems like.

08-09-2013, 02:45 AM
Steube was upset at the Lt.,s meeting the other day because alot of Deputies are getting into trouble lately.....Really sir.......this is what happens when you are in favor of micro managing your people.

We hate coming to work, but we do it because we need a paycheck, and no we will not go to another agency because we live here and we want to work here.

Get rid of these kiss arse admin losers.....90 percent of Lt,s and up.

I will not name names because this admin puppet moderator will just delete this post.

Have a good day sir......and now i will go back to my zone because I just saw my Lt. and he has anger issues and will back stab anybody just so he can move up in rank.

08-09-2013, 10:37 AM
That’s too expensive!!?? Got it figured out for you sheriff. Now you currently serve big cafetria lunch at the jail compound and who gets to eat? Jail employees, who else? Civilians,their families, brass from your staff, any one who attends a training class and any one in on the secret. Who else? Politicians you give tours to, chamber members, Port Manatee. Menue is beef, chicken, sides, salad, cole slaw, bread, beverages, cakes, pies all for 3 bucks. Tables are always packed and little kids running around and full bellies walking out. Up the price to the normal cost of a lunch $10 or $15 and there’s your money, even more if you advertise the menue and let the public in on the good deal instead of giving a food subsidy to your associates on the tax payer dime. Winner winner chicken dinner!!![/quote]

Well if you're angry about the cheap meals being served at the port at least try and find comfort in the fact that all the people eating it, whom you seem to dislike by the way are ingesting the spit, jizz, boogers, and pubes of every piece of s**t they allow to work in the kitchen. :shock:

08-09-2013, 12:04 PM
MANATEE COUNTY - Sheriff’s officials have confirmed the names of the three deputies involved in an internal investigation.
Deputy Thomas Peel has been terminated, while deputies Tom Frank and Chris Tucker resigned.
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20130805/BREAKING/130809819/2416/NEWS?Title=Manatee-sheriff-confirms-names-of-3-deputies-who-resigned
Ag Unit
http://www.thebradentontimes.com/index.php?src=news&refno=4027

have truck will travel :cop:

08-09-2013, 09:15 PM
10-15 X2 Frank and Tucker

08-09-2013, 10:36 PM
WWSB 7 reporting firefighters and HBPD

08-10-2013, 02:24 AM
[quote="Dont be mad"]Steube was upset at the Lt.,s meeting the other day because alot of Deputies are getting into trouble lately.....Really sir.......this is what happens when you are in favor of micro managing your people.


Sums it up perfectly right there. This incident was not due to any supervision styles this was due to a lack of respect for themselves and being selfish. But you are 100% correct that the troops are lost from this leadership. Handful of useless sgts, a bucket full of useless Lt's. A Payroll full of horrible captains and an entire building of admin. Its even been said the old boss regrets handing it over.

When you lead by compassion your followers actions are based on a fear of not letting you down. When you lead by fear and disgust your employees can't wait to watch you fail and lose their compassion on how you look.

Stay turned. More bad news to come--

08-10-2013, 01:27 PM
It’s a lack of professional law enforcement leadership and Steube’s name is all over it.

Rank wears loyalty stripes, not earned ones (not all, but enough of them.) MSO is crowded with mini-Steubes – sergeants on up. Pleasers aren’t good leaders but it makes Steube feel fine when they kiss up. It’s demoralizing for the troops and wearing thin with the public.

Under Steube there’s a culture where free lancers have a long leash to go out of bounds. There are other agencies where this would never happen, not to the extent that it has at MSO. In a clean department, the entire chain of command is held to high standards. But Steube keeps going after the tumors instead of curing the cancer.

Sure, Steube has law enforcement acumen but he’s undereducated to run a department this size. He ought to be taking orders rather than giving them. Tough talk and weak leadership is what he’s about. The term “micromanaging” implies (incorrectly) that he’s proactively/aggressively managing. The latest scandal shows how that’s working out. :oops:

08-10-2013, 02:17 PM
he needs to enhance his performance :devil:

08-10-2013, 05:31 PM
Arrests were announced on Friday giving Steube a weekend reprieve from media inquiries. The weakling sheriff, hiding in his bunker. Should’ve at least announced he’s going after their pensions under FSS chapter 121 before he pranced off the job for the weekend. If people start thinking he’s a corrupt sheriff that’s his own fault. Been there before :arrow:

http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20120405/ARTICLE/120409807
April 2012: Top administrators at the Manatee County Jail and farm regularly used taxpayer resources for personal gain and nurtured a culture where it was "common practice"

http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20121227/ARTICLE/121229757
December 2012: The man Steube picked to fix the sheriff's troubled jail farm has himself resigned while under investigation for taking home county property.

As one newspaper put it DISMANTLE THE CULTURE OF CORRUPTION. Step aside sheriff while we look for grounds to go after your pen$ion.
http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/law-enforcement-bulletin/may_2011/law_enforcement_professionalism
Leadership constitutes an integral part of police work, and the head of an organization holds the ultimate responsibility for its shortcomings. According to the FBI :wink:

08-10-2013, 06:34 PM
Steroid withdrawal = sleepiness. Grant :roll: us that? :snicker:

08-10-2013, 09:21 PM
Stay turned. More bad news to come--
yes much more

08-11-2013, 02:24 AM
Looks like some wanna be meatheads are unemployed! Can't say they didn't deserve it!

THIS IS YOUR BALL SAC........
THIS IS YOUR BALL SAC ON ROIDS..........
NOW THIS IS YOU ON THE UNEMPLOYMENT LINE........

how did these 3 get through for soooooo loooong?????

punching a handcuffed suspect in the head
roidy back in Dec 2000

You all are IDIOTS.

08-11-2013, 11:27 AM
[quote=Oops!]Looks like some wanna be meatheads are unemployed! Can't say they didn't deserve it!

THIS IS YOUR BALL SAC........
THIS IS YOUR BALL SAC ON ROIDS..........
NOW THIS IS YOU ON THE UNEMPLOYMENT LINE........

how did these 3 get through for soooooo loooong?????

punching a handcuffed suspect in the head
roidy back in Dec 2000

You all are IDIOTS.[/quote:1gy6cvki]

WELL THATS JUST DOWN RIGHT UNPLEASANT SIR OR MA'AM!

08-11-2013, 07:28 PM
sheriff Steube runs a tiiiight ship. Not even a slim chance that steroid abuse happens here, just the other day I had to take a pee test according to the sheriffs strict policy against drug use.It's about the 5th time I had to give a sample since he was sheriff, now you know that its strictly random and you never know when, that makes for a cleeeean work place so I can't complain. Steube, he's the man!!!


OMG, get your head out of his arse so you can see!

08-12-2013, 12:48 PM
Became aggressive with a subordinate
http://www.telegram.com/article/20121006/APN/310069965/0

Pointing gun at fellow deputy
http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=302859

Militarized raid by ski-mask clad deputies
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/26/raid-of-the-day-florida-c_n_2765920.html

Was upset, stressed, had anxiety and was angry
http://www.bradenton.com/2011/12/01/3695086/manatee-deputy-suspended-after.html

Tackled and arrested a former state legislator
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20091026/breaking/910269955

Threw a handcuffed woman face-down on a hospital floor
http://www.lawreport.org/ViewStory.aspx?StoryID=5685

Shoots 30-lb terrier
http://bradenton.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/deputy-shoots-bull-mastiff-mix-in-owners-front-yard

08-12-2013, 12:55 PM
Tough guy wrestles 78-year old man to the ground
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20090122/breaking/901220250

Misused his stun gun
http://manateecrime.blogspot.com/2011/07/manatee-sheriffs-deputy-suspended-for.html

Domestic violence
http://behindthebluewall.blogspot.com/2011/02/fl-manatee-co-deputies-suspected-from.html

Deputy escorted off the premises
http://sellingfloridarealestate.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/deputy-suspended-for-actions-at-the-trop/

Son of a gun
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20060715/NEWS/607150523

08-13-2013, 10:22 AM
Steube was upset at the Lt.,s meeting the other day.

Actually, I just retired from an SO in South Florida...so yes, I know what steroids do and I can spot a guy on them when he walks in the room.

Temper, temper :cop:

08-14-2013, 11:38 AM
sheriff Steube runs a tiiiight ship.
He didn’t test for a commonly abused drug so you could say he runs a piss poor outfit.

08-14-2013, 12:33 PM
About June 1984, the Key West Police Department located in the County of Monroe, Florida, was declared a criminal enterprise under the federal RICO statutes after a lengthy United States Department of Justice investigation.

Sheriff Steube, you’re making yourself look like the front man for a RICO enterprise. It’s starting to look like Key West around here

"Two deputies resigned for conduct unbecoming shortly before they were arrested in a narcotics sting involving steroids. And now a third Manatee County Sheriff's Office deputy…."
http://www.bradenton.com/2013/08/13/4660146/3rd-manatee-deputy-leaves-force.html

08-15-2013, 06:15 PM
The news just keeps getting worse

ABC 7 News has learned that the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency has an active investigation underway involving the Manatee County Sheriff’s Department and may extend beyond the Sherriff’s department to other municipal agencies in Manatee County
http://www.mysuncoast.com/news/local/dea-probes-manatee-county-sheriff-s-office/article_b1e9a786-ffa7-11e2-a5e7-0019bb30f31a.html
Brown Horn Choir

We need a fresh breath of air, break wind for sheriff steu.roid

08-15-2013, 06:26 PM
[quote="Deeper and deeper":1ckjq1tz]The news just keeps getting worse

ABC 7 News has learned that the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency has an active investigation underway involving the Manatee County Sheriff’s Department and may extend beyond the Sherriff’s department to other municipal agencies in Manatee County
http://www.mysuncoast.com/news/local/dea-probes-manatee-county-sheriff-s-office/article_b1e9a786-ffa7-11e2-a5e7-0019bb30f31a.html
Brown Horn Choir

We need a fresh breath of air, break wind for sheriff steu.roid[/quote:1ckjq1tz]


Get your facts right moron. The ones involved with MSO are long gone and the one that flipped on them has been gone for a long time. The other municipal agencies involved have nothing to do with MSO and DEA does not investigate agencies they investigate people. Get a life

08-15-2013, 06:56 PM
“Facts” :roll: from the Steuroid taco squad rank 9.1 on the rectum scale.

08-16-2013, 02:49 PM
Get your facts right moron
Is that an official press release? Same guy uses moron a lot to defend the SSO sheriff on our board.

08-18-2013, 05:50 PM
The MCSO conducts monthly random drug tests on all their employees. The first two employees are also tested for steroids, at a $100 a pop. It is too costly to test all 100 randomly chosen employees.
The Sheriff is reacting to the poor decisions made voluntarily by his employees. The judgment should be on the individuals themselves, not a man/agency whom are exposing their indiscretions and holding them accountable.

08-19-2013, 11:53 AM
You’re putting lipstick on a pig. :roll:

WHITEWASH: It is too costly to test all 100 randomly chosen employees.
Sheriff Steube habitually turns a blind eye that defies logic, as if steroid abuse is an isolated “indiscretion” by two lone wolves. He’d rather hide a potentially systemic problem than get bad press. Not once has he acknowledged the well known pervasiveness of steroid abuse among law enforcement officers. His only response was to cut off the visible tip of the iceberg, an irresponsible attempt to cover his political hide and damp down negative press. His unresponsiveness to ramped up testing on the heels of the recent scandal reinforces his reputation as a weak leader. The sheriff has budgetary discretion, yet he’s allocated insufficient funds to protect the public from unfit deputies. Additionally, under the “randomly chosen” scenario, the first two employees screened for steroids may well be females.

WHITEWASH: The judgment should be on the individuals themselves, not the sheriff who’s exposing their indiscretions and holding them accountable.
The sheriff is accountable for the conduct of his employees. In the jail farm scandal, he didn’t expose the long-term pattern of thievery – an informant did, and the sheriff treated the “indiscretions” so lightly that it created a public scandal. Regarding the steroid scandal, he fostered the permissive environment which allowed it to happen over a long period of time, and once again he didn’t detect illegal “indiscretions” within the ranks – an informant did.

It’s not that Sheriff Brad Steube likes lawbreaking deputies – he simply doesn’t like the bad press that ultimately reflects on him. The central theme is that the sheriff has a history of not holding his personnel accountable unless outsiders put the squeeze on him. He reacts by putting you on Leo Affairs to apply whitewash.

08-19-2013, 01:24 PM
The MCSO conducts monthly random drug tests on all their employees. The first two employees are also tested for steroids, at a $100 a pop. It is too costly to test all 100 randomly chosen employees...EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES.
You bring problems. I find solutions.

:cop: Use drug seizure money.

:mrgreen: Go ask Rep. W. Gregory “Greg” Steube to find state grant money
http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Representatives/details.aspx?MemberId=4509

:snicker: The sheriff is CEO of Police Athletic League of Manatee County, Inc., and he created a “company affiliation” board chair for Manatee County Rural Health Services. Try networking, maybe MCRHS can negotiate a discount with a drug testing lab. http://thegivingpartner.guidestar.org/NonprofitProfile.aspx?OrgId=1119885

08-21-2013, 03:00 AM
Does anyone really think this "random" screening would be 100 employees chosen at random? I'm sure he and his cronies will sit up in the ivory tower and develop the list carefully.... :devil:

08-21-2013, 12:49 PM
Tinkle, tinkle tarnished Star
I won’t pee pee in that jar.
Two of you gals, go do it for me
That’s all you’re good for, as you see.

I am big and I am strong
Don’t hissy if you think I’m wrong.
I like guys who look like me
None of us gonna take a wee.

When I’m done and gone from here
My boys will stay and get you, dear.
That’s how it works, that’s how it stays
My new replacement knows the ways.

He’ll cook the books and hide the stuff
That handsome boy, so dumb and buff.
Manly looks is what we need
Not brains or courage, so take heed.

We have some skirts who work for us
They go along without a fuss.
We pay them good to hush their face
They know the score in this man’s place.

You gals go wiz then clear the way
My boys and I intend to play.
You’re our Ana Bolic sub
Now pee enough to fill a tub.

08-21-2013, 02:58 PM
The MCSO conducts monthly random drug tests on all their employees. The first two employees are also tested for steroids
Dave your Calvin’s must be in a knot or else you wouldn’t admit such a boo boo in public. Only 2 randoms per month is the reason the sheriff was totally clueless about what the muscle heads were up to. Tisk, tisk.

08-22-2013, 12:02 PM
Another one surfaces after-the-fact!! Discovered by outside agency not MSO as per usual which tries to keep this kind of thing out of the papers as much as possible. “terminated in early 2011 for reasons unrelated to the criminal charges against her.”


http://www.bradenton.com/2013/08/22/4674933/former-manatee-jail-clerk-charged.html

08-22-2013, 07:18 PM
Another one surfaces after-the-fact!! Discovered by outside agency not MSO as per usual which tries to keep this kind of thing out of the papers as much as possible. “terminated in early 2011 for reasons unrelated to the criminal charges against her.”


http://www.bradenton.com/2013/08/22/4674933/former-manatee-jail-clerk-charged.html

What does a former civilian who was terminated 2 years ago have to do with anything????

Only a nutcase like you would connect a 68 year old lady to this!!!!!!!!!!

08-22-2013, 08:19 PM
Grrrrrr! You sound insanely angry. Isn’t it just so darn frustrating when deductive reasoning is beyond your ability? Mind if I ask what junior college you attended?

According to the MSO criminal complaint, December 2008 through February 2011 she positioned herself with intent to breach her fiduciary duty -- while she was employed by the sheriff.
Background checks ring a bell?

http://www.bradenton.com/2013/08/22/4674933/former-manatee-jail-clerk-charged.html
In August 2011, MSO (finally!) arrested her for exploiting an elderly person out of more than $100,000.
What took so long, madam Sherlock?

The SAO dropped the charges, leaving her free to commit the alleged fraud reported in today’s paper.
Back to detective school, Ms. Westside.

08-22-2013, 08:31 PM
Nutcase,You sound insanely STUPID.


"there was insufficient evidence to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt." :shock:

http://www.bradenton.com/2013/08/22/4674933/former-manatee-jail-clerk-charged.html


A 68-year-old woman is facing charges she filed a fraudulent worker's compensation claim despite having a pre-existing condition. :cop:

One has nothing to do with the other except in your twisted, sick mind.

:devil: :devil: :devil: :snicker: :devil: :devil: :devil:

08-22-2013, 08:36 PM
Nutcase,You sound insanely STUPID.One has nothing to do with the other except in your twisted, sick mind
Bingo, educated at Lars place. No wonder the sheriff can't make a case stick.