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10-23-2012, 06:02 PM
I guess her clan doesn't get it... we are beyond this accident already. This accident was minor. The other driver was not charged with speeding. He was not arrested. Hand-cuffing is just proper protocol when transporting. FP told JP that frag was drunk. FP performed the road sides. FP moved his car that was towed b/c his car was undrivable and leaking fluids. You don't return a damaged vehicle to a driver with a suspended license. He had NO RIGHT to be behind the wheel knowing his license had been suspended months prior. Fraga lied to police on more than one occasion. If anything these so called "corrupt cops" cleared a fatigued man who admitted to having 2 beers before getting on the road. fraga even admitted that the officers where nice to him. If it was up to FP he would have been arrested since he did tell the sgt. that fraga was drunk. And I think FP would know what it feels like to have that DUI slapped on ur record. So now that those minor details have been cleared. A minor accident SO WHAT? The chief herself has been in an accident while on duty.
The real deal here is her firing these officers when she DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT to do so. She violated the rights of these experienced officers. And she continues to do so. These officers where cleared by the state. Who does she think she is?
Let’s see what tomorrow will bring...

10-23-2012, 08:28 PM
Great posting! I fully agree

10-23-2012, 08:42 PM
Do most of you agree that F.P. should have been part of the investigation too?? Do you at least believe that the chief was unfair for not including MR. F.P??

10-23-2012, 08:44 PM
I agree with Fair. He should have been part of the I.A

10-23-2012, 09:05 PM
“I f---ed up, Chief. You don’t even have to do an investigation. Just demote me to an officer and send me to the range,” Olmedo said, according to Said-Jinete’s report detailing the findings of an investigation. What's up with this. Sad J.O.

Please explain?

10-23-2012, 09:16 PM
That was never said!!!!! We are talking about F.P. now! Concerning right?

10-23-2012, 09:24 PM
Yes, now we know the truth FP is to blame for everything!!!!!!

BUT PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS!!!!!!! “I f---ed up, Chief. You don’t even have to do an investigation. Just demote me to an officer and send me to the range,” Olmedo said, according to Said-Jinete’s report detailing the findings of an investigation.

10-23-2012, 09:45 PM
So FP was running the show. What was JP doing, I guess taking notes on how to handle an accident from FP. But wait doesn't JP now his stuff when it comes to accidents? Tuff to believe. Did FP do the accident investigation? Who was in charge at the scene.? I guess it was FP according to that crazy post. Wait, isnt FP the less senior officer on that scene. Whatttt. You expect me to believe that. Whattttt.

10-23-2012, 09:53 PM
your an idiot F.P. Keep it up

10-23-2012, 10:02 PM
Can someone please explain why F.P. was not part of the investigation?

10-23-2012, 10:29 PM
Can someone please explain why F.P. was not part of the investigation?

Apparently no one can explain it. Mysteriously he is removed from the whole thing, as if my magic!

10-23-2012, 11:20 PM
Pitiful interview by the three. Embarassing to all. I hope people don't think that all MPD cops are like that.

10-23-2012, 11:34 PM
Pitiful interview by the three. Embarassing to all. I hope people don't think that all MPD cops are like that.

It was more pitifully done by her. She could not stop reading off a paper all nervous and jittery. For someone so confident they are right she couldn't memorize something so simple? Ummm...yeah, okay.

BTW, You should be embarrassed that you can't spell embarrassing.

10-23-2012, 11:43 PM
WOW, sad day in medley. We, the medley police department personnel should be mad, mad at these three officers for what they did. Yes, it is sad that they lost their jobs over it, but that was their doing not the departments, not the chiefs, not the city's, not anyone else's but their fault. Responsibility false on those three. WOW, seeing that video shows it all. I don't even need to read anything. The way that driver was treated was wrong and non of us should be happy about that. That could of been my dad, your dad, your uncle. The action by those three officers reflects on us. We cannot allow that to be our legacy, that is their legacy, and their responsibility. If you read the comments left by people after the herald story, it will show you that we are all being judged by the actions of these three. We need, from now on to show the public that we (The Medley Police officers) are not all the same. We have citizens that love us, we have a business community that loves us, our new mayor and council loves us. We need to concentrate on that. PERIOD. I wrote this not to devide but to unite us.

10-24-2012, 12:01 AM
WOW, sad day in medley. We, the medley police department personnel should be mad, mad at these three officers for what they did. Yes, it is sad that they lost their jobs over it, but that was their doing not the departments, not the chiefs, not the city's, not anyone else's but their fault. Responsibility false on those three. WOW, seeing that video shows it all. I don't even need to read anything. The way that driver was treated was wrong and non of us should be happy about that. That could of been my dad, your dad, your uncle. The action by those three officers reflects on us. We cannot allow that to be our legacy, that is their legacy, and their responsibility. If you read the comments left by people after the herald story, it will show you that we are all being judged by the actions of these three. We need, from now on to show the public that we (The Medley Police officers) are not all the same. We have citizens that love us, we have a business community that loves us, our new mayor and council loves us. We need to concentrate on that. PERIOD. I wrote this not to devide but to unite us.

Yeah you sure sound so unbiased with everything you just wrote. You totally sound like you want unity. :roll:

You're just another uneducated moron looking at a video with nothing else to offer. You don't want to read anything else because you probably couldn't follow along with your obvious pea brain. The core is not about the accident anymore. How about all the details missing in between and after? Sure, let’s just forget there was another officer there who was obviously omitted in their supposed investigation, and who happens to be connected to the chief. Oh that’s really normal and fair. Yes, there will be division so long as this type of tyranny continues.

It's divide, not DEVIDE. ::facepalm::

10-24-2012, 12:13 AM
I think it sounds like the writer wants unity. Remember the three no longer work for the MPD. Yes it sounds unbaised because it is written to all current MPD officers not the three. No I'm not a moron. I got your story and your facts, FP is at fault for everything, that solves the entire investigation.. Right. WRONG.

10-24-2012, 12:24 AM
I think it sounds like the writer wants unity. Remember the three no longer work for the MPD. Yes it sounds unbaised because it is written to all current MPD officers not the three. No I'm not a moron. I got your story and your facts, FP is at fault for everything, that solves the entire investigation.. Right. WRONG.

No one ever said he was to blame for everything, you ninny. He's just mysteriously missing from an investigation. You've got nothing but your own opinion on your own perception. Again, totally one sided with no unity in your words.

And for God's sake, if you are going to copy one of my words, could you at least spell it correctly, you BIASED kool-aid drinker! LOL

10-24-2012, 01:16 AM
There are several things that don't seem right about how the investigation was handled. But does anyone other than the 3 on the scene and the Lt. That was called really know? All I can say is "fp" better be thanking her for his job, she may lose hers and we still get the pleasure of working with him. I bet he didn't light any flares that night either. LMFAO

10-24-2012, 02:23 AM
to answer everyone's question, FP was never mentioned or suspended b/c HELLOOOOOOOO he's family. and i'm sure he has enough dirt on her that he would turn on her aswell. she is so insecure that she is scared of her own shadow.

her interview sucked. but hey is anyone surprised??? she is a horrible leader, speaker, investigator, etc....

let's not forget that she is such an idiot for still being under the impression that the lawsuit is dismissed. HELLOOOOOOOOOOO check clerk of courts and inform yourself before you speak. it's no wonder she went to the media. for sure she thought she won this. think again.

that other idiot that went on and on and on and artie... i mean on and on about the people of medley and the business owners and the residents and the council and of course my favorite the "new mayor" ... do you think that she thought of all these people when she spent their money hiring an outside investigator to work on his off duty days to "investigate" a none investigation because there isn't A COMPLAINT. the amount of town money spent to hire more lawyers to defend this cluster --- that she has created b/c God knows Pizzi doesn't know his way out of a paper bag along with her. the amount of town money that it has cost to keep 3 police officers home. no she wasn't thinking of this town she loves so much. she was thinking of her sinking career and who she needed to get rid of before it was too late for her. she is a has been. a joke. we all know it.

as much as she thought that these guys were going to give up and go away, she thought wrong. get ready, i'm sure they'll be back at work before she knows it. it would be classic to watch her stick around to see it. but i doubt it.

good job guys. keep it up. you will be back soon
the radio interview was outstanding.
all this is way more than she can handle. not even retardie can help her out of this one...WAIT he got her into this in the first place.

10-24-2012, 02:33 AM
Since you can answer all our questions, please answer this one. Ready, Ready, Ready here it comes...........................“I f---ed up, Chief. You don’t even have to do an investigation. Just demote me to an officer and send me to the range,” Olmedo said, according to Said-Jinete’s report detailing the findings of an investigation. What's up with this. Sad J.O.

10-24-2012, 02:43 AM
Hey did you all hear that Ozzie Guillen (marlins manager got fired today). I hear that they are holding a press conference tomorrow, and the scoop is that they will be blaming FP and the chief for his firing.

10-24-2012, 02:54 AM
dear yesssss and whattttt and artie,

i guess u didn't take ur A.D.H.D meds again. grab that ukulele, so it can calm u down.
ur constant reposting of what LT.O allegedly said is getting old. is that all u have???? heresay?????

anyone that knows him, would know that he would never say that to her. how can he say something like that when he was never even told the truth from the start. he had no clue what the investigation was even about.
the complaintant was first the insurance company, then her, then the insurance company, then her, then the insurance, company, then NOONE b/c everyone is still waiting for a written formal complaint.

total violation from the start.
for than other moron who stated that Mr. fraga was treated badly and that could have been ur father, brother, uncle, granddaddy whatever.... you could only hope that if one of ur family members was in his same position, he would have been treated with the courtesy that Mr. Fraga was treated with. let's not forget the dude lied about not knowing his D.L was suspended. and just the fact that it was, could have been jail time. let's not mention that mr. fraga made it clear that he was never treated badly.

WHO CARES ABOUT THIS STUPID FENDER BENDER?????????????????????????????????????????

the real case here is the violation of these police officers rights.
this could happen to one of u MPD.... nevermind, i'm sure none of u were as threating to her as one of these officers might have been. she saw an opportunity to sustain her career for just a bit longer (even though it was already in a coma. )LOL

10-24-2012, 03:02 AM
Just correcting you on one comment, is just O not Lt. O. thank you.
Yea good treatment, my daddy travelling down the street strikes a MPD vehicle violating his right of way next thing his bent over being searched like a common criminal. No thanks.
He lied about not knowing that his license was suspended, what does that mean. C'mon

10-24-2012, 09:02 AM
I saw the video on tv, video speaks for it self.

10-24-2012, 09:48 AM
I saw the video on tv, video speaks for it self.

The video is not the only matter for the merits of this case. Please get off your high-horse. The video shows a crash. Period. And yes, you see what you want to see. But there's more to this story than just the plain simple accident. Maybe Romero didn't see the car because Fraga (the other driver) turned from okeechobee rd into medley??? Romero could not have seen Fraga at all as a result of the angle until it was just too late. Jeanette's Overglorified accounts of insurance company complaints, her overreaction, her staff's overreaction and their combined concocted stories and delusions of impropriety are the ones that must be addressed as violations of public trust. Not to mention that she had absolutely no authority as the Chief of Police of Medley to fire anyone. I wonder who the heck she thinks she is?? She may try to wipe her hands with the excuse that she followed the advice of the town attorney, because her type of singular obtuse personality usually revert back to Maslov's Hiarchy of (save yourself at all costs). And as far as Pizzi goes??? well,,, at they end of the day he's just sc*m. But he too cannot hire or fire. The town charter is clear and the Town, under Pizzi's and Jeanette's watch, permitted it to happen, thus once again placing the Town in a liable for damages suit. Jeanette and Pizzi don't care because at the end of the day it's the town that pays, not them. The only retribution they get is a metaphoric black eye because of their lack of administrative skills and not knowing their Town charter. And some bad press for a while. Afterwards it's life as usual and they live happily ever after while you spend a decade havibg to explain why "Yanet se volvio loca".

Look at Carlos Alvarez; Police Chief, Mayor, public servant, made a million mistakes, took care of his cronies and was later impeached by many of you readers. Where is he today? As stated above, living happily ever after. And believe me, he's happy as a clam!! Going to the gym, eating out every night, fishing, dating younger women. Happy Happy Happy, while all of those that suffered or were fired under his watch are still trying to recover or are marred for life.

So remember boys and girls, this administrative conspiracy can very well happen to you too!

I'm here all week, taking notes and reflecting on what twisted replies she has her cronies posting!

10-24-2012, 12:56 PM
Hey Correction1,
you're right it's not Lt. O.
It'll soon be Chief O at your service

you know the purpose as to why this even happened over a minor accident or a minor mistake on a report. I mean heck, how many HUGE mistakes has she made as an officer, detective, lover, la otra, wife, mother, etc.... and she didn't get fired. this all happened b/c she didn't want to promote LT to Captain. she wanted to throw some dirt on him to make him look back. then there she goes trying to promote all her friends (el viejo) to his position of course ( WITH NO EXPERIENCE LIKE HER) THAT didn't work. now he's retiring. how convenient. at the end of the day when you do dirt, it will ALL come back to you. so she better watch out.

LOLOLOLOL
just stand by.... bro this novela just keeps getting better and better. and it's what she wants, so that the media attention is on the guys not on ALL of her mistakes throughout this entire ridiculous investigation that cost the town hundreds of thousands of dollars.

soon enough, pizzi will be out of a job and so will she. then she can see what the guys are going through. all the chiefs around her must be making fun of her for ruining her career like this. over a minor accident.. noone was beat, noone died, no car was totaled (like the brand new car she totaled once and was suspended for one month no pay) she is the laughing stock of the town and the police community.

then the guys can come back to work and put medley back in working condition. something that she has never and would never be able to do.

10-24-2012, 01:48 PM
I love how a select few write the same thing over and over. "I saw the video and it speaks for itself." If that's all you think this case is about, you seriously have a learning disability or something. I guess you're never too old to learn something stupid.

10-24-2012, 02:12 PM
to readingthiscrap,

thank u. i agree. and the funny thing is, is that it's the same person repeating the Lt's alleged quote and the video crap. get over it. who cares about it. is everyone missing the point. anyone can get into an accident, us as PO's LIVE in our cares. we have more changes of having accidents than anyone else. It's funny how someone mentioned her accident years ago that she got suspended for. how soon she forgets. the point of all of this is that she had NO RIGHT to fire anyone. she can't HIRE OR FIRE. it's in black and white on the town charter. nothing has changed. she violated the rights of the officers. she can't be the complaintant, the detective's helper, the name clearer, the judge, the jury, etc.... she CANNOT do that. why haven't they handed over all the public records??? why are things missing??? b/c those records missing show plenty of evidence that she as a part of this entire thing. i'm sure that all the guys want is a fair shot for someone other than her to do this investigation. noone has ever been investigated by an outside agency with all the crazy things that have happened in medley. all of a sudden this stupidity and she makes a federal/state case out of it. she is pathetic. it's true what someone else said, this could be one of u. driving in ur car minding ur own business and u have an accident. that's why it's called an accident. it's by mistake. all the things that she did following this accident after she came back from VIVA LAS VEGAS are ridiculous and not thought through. she definetly shot from the hip. by the way, mad kudos for the chief for leaving to vegas with her entire command staff (JY doesn't count, he's at the range all day) and leave LT O. by himself. she can't even manage the dept with all her puppets that she conveniently promoted. but it makes sense it was her perfect plan over some drinks in vegas with her narrow minded clan to figure out a way to get rid of LT O so her job would be safe and she could promote her little peaches pal to captain. brilliant chief. just brilliant. now what are u going to do, it's all blown up in ur face. over a year later and ur still trying to figure out how to get out this....

10-24-2012, 10:42 PM
Hello, my name is Professor Read thru the bullshit Jones. I'm currently teaching sicology at the university of " PEPE ATT of Mucho Mistakes" I would like all of you to know that I have been reading up on this case for the past 5 days. I have read thru the 37 page suit, file by your officers against the Dept. I have read the blogs put in this site by the fine men and woman of the Dept and i'm sure from outside the Dept. I have analyzed the comments using the latest sycological theories from high ranking doctors thru out the world. I have consulted other police dept's in the area, I have brought in the finest and I mean the finest Internal Affairs investigators. I have interviewed every member of the MPD one on one. I have even forced myself you go out of my scope of comprihension into the field of science utilizing equations that bogle the mind. An After putting the finishing touches on my, as you can see very thorough investigation I now feel comfortable enough that I can release my findings to the great men and woman of the MPD. Below are my findings (Please Read) “I f---ed up, Chief. You don’t even have to do an investigation. Just demote me to an officer and send me to the range,” Olmedo said, according to Said-Jinete’s report detailing the findings of an investigation. LOL

10-25-2012, 01:01 AM
Dear F.P.
I hope you feel better today. I noticed you had a sh&*t faceyesterday. Are you okay? Are you feeling a little guilty.

10-25-2012, 01:06 AM
Hello again, my name is Professor Read thru the bullshit Jones. I'm currently teaching sicology at the university of " PEPE Attorney of Mucho Mistakes" As a member and partner of shitface diagnostics institute located just south of Medley I feel that the person that should be feeling a little guilty is (Please Read) “I f---ed up, Chief. You don’t even have to do an investigation. Just demote me to an officer and send me to the range,” Olmedo said, according to Said-Jinete’s report detailing the findings of an investigation. LOL

10-25-2012, 03:20 AM
Does everyone agree that not only does Artie suffer from A.D.H.D. but he also seems to have turrets?

I always knew something wasn't right with that guy

10-27-2012, 03:00 PM
This “Scholar” should get a name change to “Morone” it is more consistent with his posts. He contributes nothing but BS. You Medley guys say his name is Artie and seem to know him, is he in fact as stupid in person as he is on this forum? I did not think Medley employed such a lobotomized imbeciles as this “Scholar” character exhibits himself to be. He sounds like the guy who shows up as a 15 when the incidentis over.

I have followed the odyssey of the three Medley officers with interest. It can happen to anyone. Fortunately in my department vehicular homicide is called out to handle officer involved accidents. My department has a decent Internal Affairs process with the investigation reviewed by a panel of Majors, and the Major from your District is excluded from the panel. The panel of Majors either sends it back to IA for more investigation or to the Director with a recommendation. The Director is not involved until he gets the recommendation from the panel. The system does not always work, but tends to avoid unfounded and unjust persecution. From what I read and hear, the so-called investigation of these Medley Officers was directed by the Chief. The Chief was involved in investigation as it was ongoing. The Chief also reviewed and approved it., and then acted as the presenting and deciding official. If, and I say if, this is how these officers were investigated and fired, it is wrong. It sounds like a political hatchet job, especially from what I hear about the Sergeant and the Lieutenant both with more than 20 years on without any incident. I am glad I work for the County, my Department is not perfect but atleast we do not get sodomized with such cruelty.

10-27-2012, 04:42 PM
838.022?Official misconduct.—

(1)?It is unlawful for a public servant, with corrupt intent to obtain a benefit for any person or to cause harm to another, to:

(a)?Falsify, or cause another person to falsify, any official record or official document;

(b)?Conceal, cover up, destroy, mutilate, or alter any official record or official document or cause another person to perform such an act; or

(c)?Obstruct, delay, or prevent the communication of information relating to the commission of a felony that directly involves or affects the public agency or public entity served by the public servant.

(2)?For the purposes of this section:

(a)?The term “public servant” does not include a candidate who does not otherwise qualify as a public servant.

(b)?An official record or official document includes only public records.

(3)?Any person who violates this section commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

***Remember, a Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) can only protect the employment of members from violations of administrative policies, not crimes. It appears that least 1 felony and two misdemeanors occurred to cover an administrative/departmental order (At-Fault accident). I know fellow officers always want to QRU their 15s. Even if the officer would have gotten suspended for the accident, it is not worth three possibly losing their jobs, being decertified, and quite possibly being arrested.

10-28-2012, 03:26 PM
I guess in your opinion every time a cop makes a discretionary call based on the information provided by others he or she is subject to a criminal charge of official misconduct when the incident is examined with 20-20 hindsight and critical facts are omitted in the course of that 20-20 evaluation. According to your logic Fernando Perez the officer who I understand provided information about the subject being drunk should be charged with official misconduct. After all he provided the information that caused the Sergeant to make his discretionary so is Fernando Perez guilty of official misconduct according to you? Following your logic, as II hear it the Chief went after the Lieutenant because she was afraid the Lieutenant was a potential replacement. If it turns out there was no basis for any case against the Lieutenant and the Lieutenant was made a subject by the Chief to take him out of contention to become the next Chief does that not show the Chief acted to get a benefit for herself and subject her to a charge of official misconduct? Going along your logic, if the investigator went along with the Chief knowing the Lieutenant should not be a subject of any investigation is the investigator not also subject to a charge of official misconduct? Finally, according to your logic all those who went along with the Chief and investigator making statements that are less that complete and truthful would also be subject to a charge of official misconduct. Just a few points you might have overlooked. I heard the SAO said there was no crime committed. I would like to know if the SAO got all of the information and background. I heard the name of one of the lawyers who is representing these Officers and I experienced his bite. I know from my experience a few years ago that this lawyer is a royal pain. He almost got me charged by the SAO over some BS off duty crap in the Grove. The Chief and her supporters are going to need a lot of luck with this lawyer. This lawyer does not know when to stop or give up. He digs and digs and has a group of ex-feds he keeps company with who are just as bad. All these guys are connected and get information which you think was forgotten. They collect information worst than J. Edgar Hoover. They look into every little detail and by the time they finish you look like you are incompetent, corrupt or a leir. I know from my own personal experience. I ignored what fellow officers told me about this lawyer and his crew and taunted him which only makes him charge harder. I am still feeling the sting of his bite even after I have made him a friend.

10-28-2012, 05:15 PM
MPD-315,

I think that you're a fellow officer. I applaud you defending and supporting fellow officers. However, you're very conspiratorial.

According to your own post and assessment, the Officer-involved accident was in fact a deliberate act orchestrated by the drunk civilian, who was really working as a secret agent for the Chief, to eliminate any chances that the Lieutenant be further promoted. Don't you think that's a stretch, even with this 'biting lawyer' that's defending them now?

Yes, hindsight is 20-20. But if you make a mistake, you also assume the responsibility. That's leadership. Again, I applaud you defending and supporting your fellow officers. Stay safe on the road.

10-28-2012, 05:15 PM
MPD-315,

I think that you're a fellow officer. I applaud you defending and supporting fellow officers. However, you're very conspiratorial.

According to your own post and assessment, the Officer-involved accident was in fact a deliberate act orchestrated by the drunk civilian, who was really working as a secret agent for the Chief, to eliminate any chances that the Lieutenant be further promoted. Don't you think that's a stretch, even with this 'biting lawyer' that's defending them now?

Yes, hindsight is 20-20. But if you make a mistake, you also assume the responsibility. That's leadership. Again, I applaud you defending and supporting your fellow officers. Stay safe on the road.

10-29-2012, 12:34 AM
Not good for anyone to get fired. If they do not return, their own doing. If they do return, I will be making an investment of $170.00. That is the estimated cost of the entire file on the three officers. It will be a manditory file that everyone should have just like our S.O.P.'s So every time that I get written up I can smack the person writing me up with the file. I can always blame it on sloppy work by an officer, Sgt. and Lt. Get out of trouble free card, that's what we can call this file. No more councilings, reprimands will hold up. Great day. Just an observation. Please respond to my post.