BSO PROMOTIONS?

BSO PROMOTIONS?
The Broward Sheriff’s Office is reportedly planning to hold a ceremony on Dec. 20 in which several people will be promoted. According to sources, Director of Administration Wiley Thompson will be the next Undersheriff. Capt. Fernando Gajate will be promoted to major and will oversee the Human Resources Department and Capt. Robin Larson will become a major. The new chaplain could be Rasheed Baaith, who retired from BSO as a community specialist earlier this year. Major William Knowles, who runs BSO operations in Pompano Beach, will be promoted to lieutenant colonel if he takes the bait, uh, I mean job. BSO is not confirming these pending moves but there is a lot of buzz in air.

Yep, I have heard this too and its full of politics. No one should be promoted due an article, or politics. Why the sheriff didn't move to diversify the agency is a mystery, now he has to rush and do something. Thompson is highly qualified and Knowles should not be tricked out of Pompano. It will be a mistake if he does.
http://www.sfltimes.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8342&Itemid=183

No raises and crappy insurance for the men but more high level management positions. Yep, just what we really need. You guys vote yes on the contract which means no for us and yes for them.

Sorry, BUT Thompson has had the opportunity to help fix what is wrong here under two different corrupt administrations and he has done NOTHING. He is out only for Wiley. In my book that makes him part of the problem.

There are no promotions coming. I know. This is another piece of slanted, misinformed reporting that is baseless. When and if there are any promotions, it will be announced as they always have been. Find something to do and get a life.

There are no promotions coming. I know. This is another piece of slanted, misinformed reporting that is baseless. When and if there are any promotions, it will be announced as they always have been. Find something to do and get a life.
The way its always been done? You mean the sheriffs 411 and the BSO informant is not official enough for you?

RASHEED Z. BAAITH SAYS: A SHADE OF DIFFERENCE
Written by RASHEED Z. BAITH **
Like an increasing number of black women, Stepha Henry has been missing for way too long.
And like a number of black women who are missing, Henry is not getting the attention from the media, local and national, that her case deserves.

During the Memorial Day weekend, an acquaintance picked up Henry and took her to Peppers Café in Sunrise. Video footage shows Henry alone at the nightclub. She has not been seen or heard from since.
Miami-Dade police continue to investigate her disappearance. Homicide detectives have taken the lead in the case.

From all appearances, the reason for the lack of media attention devoted to Henry’s case is probably because she is not blond and not white.


When it comes to missing persons, the media has been consistent on two points. One, if the missing person is female, white and attractive by media standards, that case is going to get plenty of attention.* There will be interviews with the victim’s family, friends, teachers, pastor, and family pet.

There will be pictures in newspapers both national and local. Film of the victim will be on as many newscasts as possible. And fliers will be everywhere.

Two, if the missing person is black, Hispanic, (male or female), the reverse is true.* There will be an initial flurry of media attention but it will quickly die. If the family of the victim does not have resources and determination, the story of their loved one will quickly move from the front page to no page.

Right now, according to the FBI, there are 47,600 active adult cases of missing persons.* Of those 29.1 percent are black and about 22,200 are women. You would never know that from reading the newspapers or watching the news.

We rarely hear about the cases of Tamika Huston or Stepha Henry on national news programs. They spend their time and resources telling us about runaway brides or celebrity drunk drivers. Or sending reporters to Aruba to find the reasons for the disappearance of a young, white woman.*

Don’t misunderstand. The cases of missing white, blond, young women should not be minimalized. The heartache and grief their families feel is as real as the pain of any family of color.

But neither should the cases of missing women and men of color be ignored or minimalized.
No doubt one reason for the lack of coverage in these cases is because our women are expected to be victims of crime.* The media expects our women to be mistreated, exploited and harmed. That kind of thinking means that if anything happens to someone you expect to be a crime victim, it has no newsworthiness.


It’s as if the editors and producers in the media deny the innocence of our women. It seems their color denies them the possibility of blamelessness. The media cannot believe that black women or other women of color can be untouched in any manner whatsoever.

What the media are doing is deciding who has worth and who does not.

This means that we have to do more than be shocked or dismayed. First, we have to do all we can to protect our women.

Then, if and when they disappear, we have to do all we can to find them, whether the media gives them the attention they deserve or not.

Rasheed Z. Baaith is the senior pastor at the Imani Christian Family Community Church* in Oakland Park.
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Herman Cain
By Pastor Rasheed Z. Baaith
Originally posted 11/23/2011

Initially, I had hoped that somehow the decision by Herman Cain to campaign for the Republican Presidential nomination would prove to be a good thing. I had hoped that his running would occasion America and the world to see another perspective of the African American polity.

One whose viewpoints were not my own but never the less were presented in an informed, cogent manner. No such luck.

Herman Cain has proved to be intellectually diminutive, incapable of issue evolvement and determined to behave like a modern day version of Uncle Remus. The worse part of all of that is it’s not necessary.

Here is a man who has risen to the top of the business world through hard work and effort, is a devout Christian, has a long term marriage with children and is financially secure who apparently believes it is his political duty to be a clown at every opportunity.

It is not enough that he cannot answer questions that any serious candidate for President needs to be able to answer but doesn’t believe he should have to answer those questions. Even worse, nor do those who support him.

And to believe that his support from the Tea Party proves they are not racist is poor thinking at best and determined ignorance at worse. They support Herman Cain because it al-lows them to cloak their racism in his shadow.

We forget this is the same group of folks who love Sarah Palin so deeply, a group that would rather have an incompetent white woman in the Presidency than a capable Black man. Stung by this country’s growing awareness of what they truly stood for, the Tea Part looked for a way to project a diversity they neither had nor wanted. Enter Herman Cain.

He says the same negative things they say about Black people in the same way they do and that allows them to gleefully point out the fact that these things must be true because a person of color is saying them, about his own people.

My argument with him is not his political view although I admit I disagree with much of what he says, but those Civil Rights folks he castigates died that he might have them. And our community needs to hear as many political ideas as we can; the problem is the quality of his campaign.

If Obama were not President, there would be no way a Black man who opens campaign stops with a song, does not know “Cuban” is not a language, has been accused of sexual harassment by three white women, says he’s “not supposed to know anything about foreign policy” would be thought of as a serious candidate for the White House.

I find many Black Republican and Tea Party members, (yes, there are Black folks in the Tea party), support Herman Cain for the same reason they say many of us support Barack Obama. Which is because he’s Black?

I will admit too that I wondered what it would be like for American and for the world to see two Black men be running for the Presidency in November, 2012. But they need to be candidates who are informed, able to converse with us about what they stand for, have up to date world awareness and project a dignified demeanor.

Herman Cain thus far has not shown any of those qualities. At this stage of the primary campaigns, it’s hard to believe he ever will.

Finally, Herman Cain has been given protection by the Secret Service and I believe he needs it. In the political environment of today, political differences can lead to violence of the worst kind. But he needs protection against himself even more than protection from those who disagree with him.

BSO PROMOTIONS?
The Broward Sheriff’s Office is reportedly planning to hold a ceremony on Dec. 20 in which several people will be promoted. According to sources, Director of Administration Wiley Thompson will be the next Undersheriff. Capt. Fernando Gajate will be promoted to major and will oversee the Human Resources Department and Capt. Robin Larson will become a major. The new chaplain could be Rasheed Baaith, who retired from BSO as a community specialist earlier this year. Major William Knowles, who runs BSO operations in Pompano Beach, will be promoted to lieutenant colonel if he takes the bait, uh, I mean job. BSO is not confirming these pending moves but there is a lot of buzz in air.
Don't worry, the promotions will only be for 12 months.

So I guess only Thompson and Knowles are worthy of the bump up. Gajante and Larson must be a couple of slouches that just happen to bring votes. I don't see it. Doesn't say much for direction this place is going if that's what is going on.

So I guess only Thompson and Knowles are worthy of the bump up. Gajante and Larson must be a couple of slouches that just happen to bring votes. I don't see it. Doesn't say much for direction this place is going if that's what is going on.

How dare you malign this agency for doing what is good to great? The agency continues to reduce crime, and hold the line on expenses and costs. You still have a job and we are progressively becoming the apple of other law enforcement agencies' eyes. If you would get with the program and stop following rabble in alternative newspapers, we all would be better off. Be safe.

So I guess only Thompson and Knowles are worthy of the bump up. Gajante and Larson must be a couple of slouches that just happen to bring votes. I don't see it. Doesn't say much for direction this place is going if that's what is going on.

How dare you malign this agency for doing what is good to great? The agency continues to reduce crime, and hold the line on expenses and costs. You still have a job and we are progressively becoming the apple of other law enforcement agencies' eyes. If you would get with the program and stop following rabble in alternative newspapers, we all would be better off. Be safe.

Hey Pinnochio....are you drunk?

Crime is up in all BSO contracts.
Friends and family are being hired at exorbitant salaries.
You still have a job if you were not re-classified or took a pay cut.
The apple comment is just too insane to even comment on.
Everybody know how corrupt this place is at the top.
Everybody is waiting for the ax to fall.
Good to great? You must be on the 3rd or 5th floor of the RICO PSB

So I guess only Thompson and Knowles are worthy of the bump up. Gajante and Larson must be a couple of slouches that just happen to bring votes. I don't see it. Doesn't say much for direction this place is going if that's what is going on.

How dare you malign this agency for doing what is good to great? The agency continues to reduce crime, and hold the line on expenses and costs. You still have a job and we are progressively becoming the apple of other law enforcement agencies' eyes. If you would get with the program and stop following rabble in alternative newspapers, we all would be better off. Be safe.

Your Kidding Right????
BSO is the Laughing Stock of Law Enforcement Throughout the Country!!!

There is no need for name calling and insults. This is a great place to work and contribute to the community. Look at some of the agencies around the country, and give thanks to our command staff for what to do each and every day.

There are problem, but we can go from good to great if every one contributes and do their fare share. Some of the lower-level staff were re-classified instead of laying them off and this was a great move. There are a number of issues we are confronting and hang in there. After the elections, everyone will see the improvements. Be safe out there.

Yes, after the election if Al doesn't get re-elected we will see improvement.

Robin Larson as major, you have to be kidding. She was a useless Police Officer in Pompano Bch PD and have never done anything to earn her promotions over the year. She may have a master degree and is another yes person but offers nothing else. :snicker:

There is no need for name calling and insults. This is a great place to work and contribute to the community. Look at some of the agencies around the country, and give thanks to our command staff for what to do each and every day.

There are problem, but we can go from good to great if every one contributes and do their fare share. Some of the lower-level staff were re-classified instead of laying them off and this was a great move. There are a number of issues we are confronting and hang in there. After the elections, everyone will see the improvements. Be safe out there.


Stop Drinking The Kool-Aid,,,I understand that your part of the get all that I can get command staff making your 120,000.00 a yr or more. Try asking the lower-level staff that were re-classified from 34,000.00 a yr to 28,000.00 a yr How great they think the command staff is.??? After the elections thing will get better only if Al and all of the command staff is gone.

So I guess only Thompson and Knowles are worthy of the bump up. Gajante and Larson must be a couple of slouches that just happen to bring votes. I don't see it. Doesn't say much for direction this place is going if that's what is going on.

How dare you malign this agency for doing what is good to great? The agency continues to reduce crime, and hold the line on expenses and costs. You still have a job and we are progressively becoming the apple of other law enforcement agencies' eyes. If you would get with the program and stop following rabble in alternative newspapers, we all would be better off. Be safe.

Your Kidding Right????
BSO is the Laughing Stock of Law Enforcement Throughout the Country!!!

And how in the Eff do you know this tuff guy???? Stop talking garbage and get back to work... (Throughout the country)????? That's funny right there.... Effing leave then, you won't because you don't have the Balls to go, no one else will take you...

So I guess only Thompson and Knowles are worthy of the bump up. Gajante and Larson must be a couple of slouches that just happen to bring votes. I don't see it. Doesn't say much for direction this place is going if that's what is going on.

How dare you malign this agency for doing what is good to great? The agency continues to reduce crime, and hold the line on expenses and costs. You still have a job and we are progressively becoming the apple of other law enforcement agencies' eyes. If you would get with the program and stop following rabble in alternative newspapers, we all would be better off. Be safe.

Your Kidding Right????
BSO is the Laughing Stock of Law Enforcement Throughout the Country!!!

And how in the Eff do you know this tuff guy???? Stop talking garbage and get back to work... (Throughout the country)????? That's funny right there.... Effing leave then, you won't because you don't have the Balls to go, no one else will take you...

Stop trying to act tuff it's very unbecome of you,, just be the ***** that you are and get back under Al's desk!!!!

So I guess only Thompson and Knowles are worthy of the bump up. Gajante and Larson must be a couple of slouches that just happen to bring votes. I don't see it. Doesn't say much for direction this place is going if that's what is going on.

How dare you malign this agency for doing what is good to great? The agency continues to reduce crime, and hold the line on expenses and costs. You still have a job and we are progressively becoming the apple of other law enforcement agencies' eyes. If you would get with the program and stop following rabble in alternative newspapers, we all would be better off. Be safe.

Your Kidding Right????
BSO is the Laughing Stock of Law Enforcement Throughout the Country!!!

And how in the Eff do you know this tuff guy???? Stop talking garbage and get back to work... (Throughout the country)????? That's funny right there.... Effing leave then, you won't because you don't have the Balls to go, no one else will take you...

Stop trying to act tuff it's very unbecome of you,, just be the ***** that you are and get back under Al's desk!!!!

How is that "Acting Tuff"????? You are a loser.... Say what you will about me being under a desk, but you always be a miserable person, you will never get ahead in life, never... Get with the program and you might achieve success...

[quote="old boy":3v1x6v3z]So I guess only Thompson and Knowles are worthy of the bump up. Gajante and Larson must be a couple of slouches that just happen to bring votes. I don't see it. Doesn't say much for direction this place is going if that's what is going on.

How dare you malign this agency for doing what is good to great? The agency continues to reduce crime, and hold the line on expenses and costs. You still have a job and we are progressively becoming the apple of other law enforcement agencies' eyes. If you would get with the program and stop following rabble in alternative newspapers, we all would be better off. Be safe.

Your Kidding Right????
BSO is the Laughing Stock of Law Enforcement Throughout the Country!!!

And how in the Eff do you know this tuff guy???? Stop talking garbage and get back to work... (Throughout the country)????? That's funny right there.... Effing leave then, you won't because you don't have the Balls to go, no one else will take you...

Stop trying to act tuff it's very unbecome of you,, just be the ***** that you are and get back under Al's desk!!!!

How is that "Acting Tuff"????? You are a loser.... Say what you will about me being under a desk, but you always be a miserable person, you will never get ahead in life, never... Get with the program and you might achieve success...[/quote:3v1x6v3z]

I see ifs all my fault, regardless of you rank at BSO, you are nothing but a follower and you sir are the real loser amung us, and will never achieve success in life,, so grow a pair and be a men or woman as the case may be, and STOP DRINKING the KOOL-AID

It is ur fault!!!! Instead of doing something to make a positive change, you hide behind a keyboard talking crap. Grow up and do your job. And what's this kool aid crap?!?! That expression is so over played, it means nothing. Go up to the 3rd floor or 5th for that matter, and tell them about this kool aid! you won't because your a coward.

Yeah go to the 3 or 5 floor and tell them what idiots they are and how they could do better. You are a genius why didn't anybody think of that? Those cowards will lie and steal to f you over. It is all about what the LCF can steal for themselves. They could care less about the professionals doing the work.

Yeah go to the 3 or 5 floor and tell them what idiots they are and how they could do better. You are a genius why didn't anybody think of that? Those cowards will lie and steal to f you over. It is all about what the LCF can steal for themselves. They could care less about the professionals doing the work.

Come on now, they got Wiley Thompson never did a thing here except collect a pay check and numerous promotions and pay raises! I tried to contact him once when he was in human resources, but he is too important to talk to deputies.

RASHEED Z. BAAITH SAYS: A SHADE OF DIFFERENCE
Written by RASHEED Z. BAITH
Like an increasing number of black women, Stepha Henry has been missing for way too long.
And like a number of black women who are missing, Henry is not getting the attention from the media, local and national, that her case deserves.

During the Memorial Day weekend, an acquaintance picked up Henry and took her to Peppers Café in Sunrise. Video footage shows Henry alone at the nightclub. She has not been seen or heard from since.
Miami-Dade police continue to investigate her disappearance. Homicide detectives have taken the lead in the case.

From all appearances, the reason for the lack of media attention devoted to Henry’s case is probably because she is not blond and not white.

If indeed Rasheed Baith is beign considered for BSO Chaplain, then there will definitely be reason for concern. If the above is indeed his writing, then he is racist and a bigot. Any bona fide minister would not be so prejudiced. Rasheed needs to learn that a public figure and ministers ARE NOT FREE TO VOICE PERSONAL VIEWS.

I researched him and question his credibility as far as recognized credentials and training to be a chaplain. Maybe Chaplain Braswell wasn't so bad.

If you want a promotion run for sheriff.

So I guess only Thompson and Knowles are worthy of the bump up. Gajante and Larson must be a couple of slouches that just happen to bring votes. I don't see it. Doesn't say much for direction this place is going if that's what is going on.

How dare you malign this agency for doing what is good to great? The agency continues to reduce crime, and hold the line on expenses and costs. You still have a job and we are progressively becoming the apple of other law enforcement agencies' eyes. If you would get with the program and stop following rabble in alternative newspapers, we all would be better off. Be safe.

Hey Pinnochio....are you drunk?

Crime is up in all BSO contracts.
Friends and family are being hired at exorbitant salaries.
You still have a job if you were not re-classified or took a pay cut.
The apple comment is just too insane to even comment on.
Everybody know how corrupt this place is at the top.
Everybody is waiting for the ax to fall.
Good to great? You must be on the 3rd or 5th floor of the RICO PSB

Let's disect your lines 1 by 1, shall we....

Crime is up in all BSO districts - Doubt this is true, but if it is.....Dumbass, we are in an extended recession but....according to the FBI database....crime is down in Broward.

Friends and family being hired at exorbitant salaries....So who would you hire....ex-friends?? Are they friends because they have known each other for years in Law Enforcement Circles and they are opinions that the Sheriff trusts? just because some is a FRIEND....doesn't make them unqualified.

The reclassification of employees was going to happen. It is a trend in corrections to take certifieds out of the control rooms....it was going to happen anyways and it had been negotiated for years.....YEARS....the economy just forced the hands of administrators and union leadership alike to make it happen to save jobs....but being the low level disgruntled person you are....you wouldn't know that.

Now...as far as you...."everybody knows....comments".....Are you GOD....you "KNOW" what everybody "KNOWS"....you make these blanket statements because you are angry and bitter.....but you have nothing else to fight with....so it's "Everybody knows".....Really....I've been here 25 years....how come I don't "Know".....The irony is.....you paint everyone with such a wide brush that you assume everyone is with you because they listen to your rants and don't tell you to "STFU"....They don't agree with you....they just feel your angriness and bitterness is to difficult to argue with so they give a an obligatory nod and you feel like they agree....

Seek Counseling....get help.....you should not be wearing a gun and a badge this bitter.

BSO PROMOTIONS?
The Broward Sheriff’s Office is reportedly planning to hold a ceremony on Dec. 20 in which several people will be promoted. According to sources, Director of Administration Wiley Thompson will be the next Undersheriff. Capt. Fernando Gajate will be promoted to major and will oversee the Human Resources Department and Capt. Robin Larson will become a major. The new chaplain could be Rasheed Baaith, who retired from BSO as a community specialist earlier this year. Major William Knowles, who runs BSO operations in Pompano Beach, will be promoted to lieutenant colonel if he takes the bait, uh, I mean job. BSO is not confirming these pending moves but there is a lot of buzz in air.
Prichard to Sgt.

Who are the top five for the Sgts. Promo? I hear DP is in for sure.

[quote="old boy":2ojwf6ta]So I guess only Thompson and Knowles are worthy of the bump up. Gajante and Larson must be a couple of slouches that just happen to bring votes. I don't see it. Doesn't say much for direction this place is going if that's what is going on.

How dare you malign this agency for doing what is good to great? The agency continues to reduce crime, and hold the line on expenses and costs. You still have a job and we are progressively becoming the apple of other law enforcement agencies' eyes. If you would get with the program and stop following rabble in alternative newspapers, we all would be better off. Be safe.

Hey Pinnochio....are you drunk?

Crime is up in all BSO contracts.
Friends and family are being hired at exorbitant salaries.
You still have a job if you were not re-classified or took a pay cut.
The apple comment is just too insane to even comment on.
Everybody know how corrupt this place is at the top.
Everybody is waiting for the ax to fall.
Good to great? You must be on the 3rd or 5th floor of the RICO PSB

Let's disect your lines 1 by 1, shall we....

Crime is up in all BSO districts - Doubt this is true, but if it is.....Dumbass, we are in an extended recession but....according to the FBI database....crime is down in Broward.

.[/quote:2ojwf6ta]

Dissect this..shall we...

While you're at work, home burglars may strike. The Broward Sheriff's Office says the neighborhoods it protects have experienced a 20 percent jump in home break-ins especially between 9 a.m. and noon.

Watchful neighbors have thwarted some incidents by calling 911, part of the message the Broward Sheriff's Office will spread on Tuesday by handing out flyers in its 14 law enforcement and fire districts and areas of unincorporated Broward County that the agency patrols.

I will address your other fantasies later.
This place is going down the toilet faster than Lamberti's lips can tell a lie.

Crime is at an all time in Broward County. Keep believing the bogus Stats that are being presented. You sound like your drunk on Kool Aid! :cop: :devil:

Ellwood, Mellies,Mercado, Pritchard and can't remember the 5th

Ellwood, Mellies,Mercado, Pritchard and can't remember the 5th


....Measel

Ellwood, Mellies,Mercado, Pritchard and can't remember the 5th


....Measel
Prichard is not on the list for promotion. Get your facts straight

Ellwood, Mellies,Mercado, Pritchard and can't remember the 5th


....Measel
Prichard is not on the list for promotion. Get your facts straight

Prichard did pass the Sgts. Test....correct? And since when does he have to be on any list? He is the Admin XO correct? He is a Democrat correct? He is running for a State Office correct? Correct? Now....go fish.

This place is going down the toilet faster than Lamberti's lips can tell a lie.

That is funny.... :cop: :cop: :cop:

Ellwood, Mellies,Mercado, Pritchard and can't remember the 5th


....Measel
Prichard is not on the list for promotion. Get your facts straight

Prichard did pass the Sgts. Test....correct? And since when does he have to be on any list? He is the Admin XO correct? He is a Democrat correct? He is running for a State Office correct? Correct? Now....go fish.
More rumors from the illiterates....Prichard is NOT being promoted. How about you attend the ceremony and see for yourself????????

Commander Don Pritchard.

Commander Don Pritchard.
Not to be taken lightly. Nothing like having an allie , Democrat, in the Florida House of Reps. :shock:

Ellwood, Mellies,Mercado, Pritchard and can't remember the 5th


....Measel
Prichard is not on the list for promotion. Get your facts straight

Prichard did pass the Sgts. Test....correct? And since when does he have to be on any list? He is the Admin XO correct? He is a Democrat correct? He is running for a State :devil: :devil: Office correct? Correct? Now....go fish.
More rumors from the illiterates....Prichard is NOT being promoted. How about you attend the ceremony and see for yourself????????
NOW WHO IS THE MORON...MORON....IT WILL BE SGT. PRICHARD :devil: :devil:

The Sheriff can promote anyone he wants test or not...... The Sheriff has done this on several occasions.

Who is the new high dollar hire that Lameberti just hooked up with a bug buck job? But, there is no money. Hi Brian J...welcome to the crooked world of AL.

I am curious. I saw that A reserve deputy was being promoted to the rank of LT. I know the guy and he is a nice guy but has ALWAYS been a reserve deputy. Does a Reserve LT. have any authority over full time deputy's ?

The top five scores on the sergeant's eligibility list are:

1. Scott Ashley
2. Gabriel Aragon
3. Daniel Millies
4. David Ellwood
5. Bryan Nord

The PBA bargaining unit agreement indicates: Promotional appointments for each vacant position shall be made from the then top five (5) scores. Ever sixth (6th) vacant position shall be filled by the Sheriff without regard for the rule of five (5).

The Sheriff has announced that he will be promoting numbers; 4,5,7,8, and 13. Let's see what the PBA will do about a direct contract violation. I'm guessing...nothing.

What a shame for Scott if that's true. He's a great guy and I think would be an excellent sergeant. Same old BS at BSO.

Ellwood, Mellies,Mercado, Pritchard and can't remember the 5th


....Measel
Prichard is not on the list for promotion. Get your facts straight

Guess I should get my facts straight huh? The BSO informant and Sheriff 411 were both lying too ??

Ellwood, Mellies,Mercado, Pritchard and can't remember the 5th


....Measel
Prichard is not on the list for promotion. Get your facts straight

Guess I should get my facts straight huh? The BSO informant and Sheriff 411 were both lying too ??
I guess you got a special 411? Mine doesnt say that!

Doesn't the Sheriff have to give an explanation for skipping and how does he explain picking someone so low on the list with the rule of 5 in the contract?

So what is the reason for skipping Ashley, Aragon, and Nord?

Doesn't the Sheriff have to give an explanation for skipping and how does he explain picking someone so low on the list with the rule of 5 in the contract?

So what is the reason for skipping Ashley, Aragon, and Nord?
No, he doesn't have to give an explanation, because he knows the PBA won't say or do anyhting about it.

There are some sharp people getting promoted tommorrow.

The whole bunch are tools. Most are related to someone of influence. SA won't stop crying and threatening to sue, the other 2 are bigger retards than who is being promoted!

[quote="Reason?":x6zzw6v5]Doesn't the Sheriff have to give an explanation for skipping and how does he explain picking someone so low on the list with the rule of 5 in the contract?

So what is the reason for skipping Ashley, Aragon, and Nord?
No, he doesn't have to give an explanation, because he knows the PBA won't say or do anyhting about it.[/quote:x6zzw6v5]

PBA Legal contacted BSO management requesting an explanation, and justification for selecting candidates for promotion to DLE sergeant on December 20th who were not listed as the then top five scores. This is the explanation they received:

The Sheriff is looking at promotions as rounds of six, as he gets the sixth pick without regard to the rule of five. In July, he promoted 15 sergeants, stopping in the third round of six at number three. He is continuing the third round of six in December, which allows him to promote two from the then top five, (which would be numbers four and five from July), and his third selection in December is actually his sixth selection from round three. So, this person was the eighteenth selection overall, the sixth selection of round three, and the third selection of the December promotion. That’s the justification for promoting his XO in December.

Now, his justification for skipping the candidates who would have been listed as numbers four & five from July, and numbers one, two, and five in December:

Each time the Sheriff selects someone from the top five, everyone slides down one position. This occurs before the promotions take place. So, after his third pick in round three (July), he has a new top five to choose from, and when he selected numbers three & four, numbers six and seven slid down to numbers four and five.

Now here’s the big question: What was the intention of the language added to the contract that included the rule of five. Was it; if your score was listed in the top five, the sheriff had to exhaust the top five before getting a new top five, or, could the sheriff reorder the top five within the same selection? If the latter was the intention that would mean that the sheriff could promote numbers 5 through 66 without ever promoting numbers one through four. If so, what would be the point of having a top five?

Does the conclusion of each promotion reset the then top five, and the sixth pick? If so, the Sheriff’s promoting his XO was a violation of the contract.

What will happen?

PBA Legal is consulting the PBA reps that were part of the bargaining team to find out what the intention of the language was when the rule of five was added to the contract. At least one PBA rep has already told PBA Legal that they understood the language to mean that the Sheriff had to exhaust the top five scores before getting a sixth pick and a new top five, and he has violated the contract with his December 20th selections.

What will the President of the PBA, and the other PBA reps tell PBA Legal their understanding, and intention of the language was?

If the intention of the top five was as the majority of the bargaining unit members believed it to be, what will happen to the new sergeants who were promoted in violation the contract?

Let's see how long the Sheriff and the PBA will take to resolve this issue.

THE PROMOTION WERE POLITICALLY MOTIVATED. PBA is a waste and the sheriff does what he wants. Gajate has an open IA case, but he was promoted anyway. A lot of things need to change.

I was a rep on that contract. The way we wanted it was the if he promoted the top five, he got one free pick. If he skipped anybody, that person was placed back in the top five order. Simple as that. This way he couldn't keep skipping the same person all of the time.

I was a rep at that time too and recall the same intentions as the last post. However, to get the contract settled, the PBA (reps) agreed with BSO to a 'rule of five' and said there would later be a committee formed to 'work out the details.' To my knowledge, the committee was never formed and the details of the 5-rule never put to paper. It's not in the contract that way and there is no MOU the PBA signed agreeing to a official procedure.

How come CB keeps getting passed over? He seems OK.

I was a rep at that time too and recall the same intentions as the last post. However, to get the contract settled, the PBA (reps) agreed with BSO to a 'rule of five' and said there would later be a committee formed to 'work out the details.' To my knowledge, the committee was never formed and the details of the 5-rule never put to paper. It's not in the contract that way and there is no MOU the PBA signed agreeing to a official procedure.

How come CB keeps getting passed over? He seems OK.

CB was offered the promotion, but has family issues to take care of, SA is being retaliated against for questioning BSO Management’s unethical behavior, and I’m not familiar with the other’s who were passed-over this last round.

This is EXACTLY the reason why we wanted a RULE OF FIVE. The sheriff in order to get a free pick has to select the top five in a row. If he skips anybody, no free pick. You can believe we will push for this on the next contract.

This is EXACTLY the reason why we wanted a RULE OF FIVE. The sheriff in order to get a free pick has to select the top five in a row. If he skips anybody, no free pick. You can believe we will push for this on the next contract.

Push for what? This contract was ignored what good will the next one do?

So you know. The people that this affects chickened out in filing a grievance. You have to have a damaged party to file an action. If the chicken shits can't stand up for themselves then screw them.

I know that you will call me every name in the book, but I was involved in the negotiations also, and the Sheriff is doing as I understood it would be done.,...rule of five, he must pick from the top five scores, in no certain order and when he picks one, another moves up, so he could essentially can skip the same Person over and over. But if a person was skipped twice an explanation was required. After picking five this way the sixth pick could be from anywhere off the list. Not the best system, but a major improvement over what we had.....when they picked every pick from wherever they wanted....not sure this way is great either some good guys got promoted, but still a lot of d.b.'s....

I know that you will call me every name in the book, but I was involved in the negotiations also, and the Sheriff is doing as I understood it would be done.,...rule of five, he must pick from the top five scores, in no certain order and when he picks one, another moves up, so he could essentially can skip the same Person over and over. But if a person was skipped twice an explanation was required. After picking five this way the sixth pick could be from anywhere off the list. Not the best system, but a major improvement over what we had.....when they picked every pick from wherever they wanted....not sure this way is great either some good guys got promoted, but still a lot of d.b.'s....

You are correct sir with the exception of the explanation. But if you think our pal Al gives a flying fvck about this you are incorrect. He will only do what benefits him. No I am not on any list (well maybe)..but not a promotion list. :snicker:

So you know. The people that this affects chickened out in filing a grievance. You have to have a damaged party to file an action. If the chicken shits can't stand up for themselves then screw them.

They don't say anything because they don't want to end up like SA and end up on the wrong list. There will be more promotions off this list and they want a chance instead of no chance.

So you know. The people that this affects chickened out in filing a grievance. You have to have a damaged party to file an action. If the chicken shits can't stand up for themselves then screw them.

I can tell you that at least one of the three listed in the top five who were passed over on December 20th has filed a grievance with the PBA. What will the PBA do??? We are all guessing nothing, but we'll find out after the holiday season is over.

It's really funny, I was at a Christmas Party at the fine estate of S.G. and he was again backing Sheriff Lamberti for the 2012 election. In fact the Sheriff made a special appearance was hanging out on the pool deck as he usually does at Scott's annual party. To really feel bad that Scott will never get promoted above his current position even though the Sheriff has made that false promise 3 years ago again. I'm sure that court-house command is really challenging. Happy New Year my friend.