ADVERTISING FOR FHP SERVICES ?

http://oversizeloadservices.com/services

WOW, THIS OFF-DUTY STUFF IS GETTING RIDICULOUS. TROOPERS ADVERTISING ON A WEB SITE FOR FHP SERVICES ?

http://oversizeloadservices.com/services


Wow this trooper is really whoring out the Florida Highway Patrol.

Get ready for a policy change.

This is copied right from the web page.

Florida Highway Patrol
Escort Services
For all your FHP escort needs, or any information concerning SUPERLOADS,
CONTACT: Trooper G.D. Carnley, 850-982-1612
Just Drop Our Name For Great Discounts

Why don't you mind your own ****ingbusiness you rat*******????????? God I hate people like you. Are you angling for a IG position or what? *****

http://oversizeloadservices.com/services

WOW, THIS OFF-DUTY STUFF IS GETTING RIDICULOUS. TROOPERS ADVERTISING ON A WEB SITE FOR FHP SERVICES ?

And some of us wonder why we are not considered to be professionals; this advertisement is one of the reasons. This is the kind of behavior undertaken by pimps and whores. OMG, we are them.

The website and the company are not owned by a trooper. Yes, it mentions a trooper on that one page but the company is owned and operated by someone else. They do nationwide escorts so FHP wouldn't be able to do that.

Why don't you mind your own ****ingbusiness you rat*******????????? God I hate people like you. Are you angling for a IG position or what? .

As long as it is something that brings discredit to the patrol, it is everyones business, even the public whether we like it or not.

Not much different than this: http://www.aamtfl.com/about.html

I didn't know FHP sponsored a class. Maybe I can get a discount.

Not much different than this: http://www.aamtfl.com/about.html

I didn't know FHP sponsored a class. Maybe I can get a discount.

Very sad how troopers are whoring out the Florida Highway Patrols name for personal gain. This all needs to come to an end now.

Not much different than this: http://www.aamtfl.com/about.html

I didn't know FHP sponsored a class. Maybe I can get a discount.

Very sad how troopers are whoring out the Florida Highway Patrols name for personal gain. This all needs to come to an end now.

What needs to come to an end? For those of you who feel that using your credentials in life is wrong, you are crazy. Businesses flourish on growth and part of growth is providing credentials and experience to demonstrate areas of expertise in order to secure new business. This is nothing more than providing a resume as to background so that potential employers will be able to determine who is best suited to hire for the job. In the case of the motorcycle instruction, providing background experience actually helps prospective students learn which motorcycle school may be best. Please tell me one instance of someone trying to get a job or a company trying to get new business where that person or that company does not mention their credentials and experience.

For those of you still not convinced, each and every time you take a 10-208, you are doing the very same thing. You are using your state issued badge, state issued gun, state issued patrol car and your state job in order to stuff extra money in your pocket. I love this agency but have always wondered why we are so intent on screwing each other as opposed to looking out for each other like you will find at other agencies.

I agree with posting your resume. I disagree with having our patch prominently displayed as if to indicate an endorsement.




Not much different than this: http://www.aamtfl.com/about.html

I didn't know FHP sponsored a class. Maybe I can get a discount.

Very sad how troopers are whoring out the Florida Highway Patrols name for personal gain. This all needs to come to an end now.

What needs to come to an end? For those of you who feel that using your credentials in life is wrong, you are crazy. Businesses flourish on growth and part of growth is providing credentials and experience to demonstrate areas of expertise in order to secure new business. This is nothing more than providing a resume as to background so that potential employers will be able to determine who is best suited to hire for the job. In the case of the motorcycle instruction, providing background experience actually helps prospective students learn which motorcycle school may be best. Please tell me one instance of someone trying to get a job or a company trying to get new business where that person or that company does not mention their credentials and experience.

For those of you still not convinced, each and every time you take a 10-208, you are doing the very same thing. You are using your state issued badge, state issued gun, state issued patrol car and your state job in order to stuff extra money in your pocket. I love this agency but have always wondered why we are so intent on screwing each other as opposed to looking out for each other like you will find at other agencies.

Did somebody forget about this?


5.08.02 POLICY
It is the policy of the Florida Highway Patrol to allow its personnel to engage in
secondary employment that does not conflict with primary job assignments or obligations to the
Division; and that does not discredit or embarrass the agency or diminish public confidence in
law enforcement or in the Division's commitment to integrity.

Or more to the point, how about this one?
3.03.06 (A) POLICY
17. Members will not authorize the use of their names, photographs or official titles which identify them as officers, in connection with testimonials or advertisements of any commodity or commercial enterprise, without the approval of the Director.

Somehow, methinks the Colonel didn't put his stamp of approval on any of these examples given. I have to agree, these are examples of troopers whoring out the Florida Highway Patrol's name and the title of "Trooper" for personal gain. The job has become secondary to them now, a means to an end to work more off-duty or secondary employment. Sad. :(

Why don't you mind your own ****ingbusiness you rat*******????????? God I hate people like you. Are you angling for a IG position or what? .


C'mon, really?! How old are you? Does your mother know you talk like this?

Not much different than this: http://www.aamtfl.com/about.html

I didn't know FHP sponsored a class. Maybe I can get a discount.


As slow as the motorcycle school business is these days they may have to put those girls to work in a different line of work.

You guys have not seen anything until you see this one!!!! I stumbled across it via Google…

http://208enterprise.com/

That's funny stuff right there! I love the word "serveral".

You guys have not seen anything until you see this one!!!! I stumbled across it via Google…

http://208enterprise.com/

THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS. :evil:

THE USE OF FHP RESOURCES FOR PERSONAL GAIN BY THIS LIEUTENANT SHOULD RESULT IN HIS IMMEDIATE TERMINATION. :roll: :roll:

I wonder what happens when you type in "Florida Highway" in the company search box here: http://www.filmfla.com/index.cfm

You guys have not seen anything until you see this one!!!! I stumbled across it via Google…

http://208enterprise.com/

THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS. :evil:

THE USE OF FHP RESOURCES FOR PERSONAL GAIN BY THIS LIEUTENANT SHOULD RESULT IN HIS IMMEDIATE TERMINATION. :roll: :roll:


This LT does whatever he wants and no one - Major, Chief, GHQ - does a thing about it. He works for FHP when it doesn't interfere with his 208 and he has his hands in jobs all over. All this protection comes from his wife's Daddy who was a big something in Tally at one time. And now the LT doesn't even wear a uniform when he is working.

You guys have not seen anything until you see this one!!!! I stumbled across it via Google…

http://208enterprise.com/

THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS. :evil:

THE USE OF FHP RESOURCES FOR PERSONAL GAIN BY THIS LIEUTENANT SHOULD RESULT IN HIS IMMEDIATE TERMINATION. :roll: :roll:

Everyone knows this guy makes his own decisions. If this website was created by anyone else I'd be surprised, but not him.
I guess the recruiters can add "business opportunities available" to the recruiting literature.

AVAILABLE SPECIALTY POSITIONS
Pilot
K-9 Handler
Felony Officer
Public Affairs Officer
Background Investigator
Child Seat Technician
CEO of Your Own Private Company

What needs to come to an end? For those of you who feel that using your credentials in life is wrong, you are crazy. Businesses flourish on growth and part of growth is providing credentials and experience to demonstrate areas of expertise in order to secure new business. This is nothing more than providing a resume as to background so that potential employers will be able to determine who is best suited to hire for the job. In the case of the motorcycle instruction, providing background experience actually helps prospective students learn which motorcycle school may be best. Please tell me one instance of someone trying to get a job or a company trying to get new business where that person or that company does not mention their credentials and experience.

For those of you still not convinced, each and every time you take a 10-208, you are doing the very same thing. You are using your state issued badge, state issued gun, state issued patrol car and your state job in order to stuff extra money in your pocket. I love this agency but have always wondered why we are so intent on screwing each other as opposed to looking out for each other like you will find at other agencies.

I agree that you should post your experience. I agree that you should indicate where you got that experience, too. However, there is no reason to mention the agency unless the prospective client asks you. If I say I'm a police motorman with 10 years on the job, there's nothing wrong with the advertisement. But if I say I'm an FHP motorman, that's wrong. If a caller wants to know, he can ask, and I'll answer truthfully.

The examples posted on this thread are sick. They have violated policy, and should even be held under admin review by the CJSTC for ethics violations. Their behavior is unbecoming of a LEO.

This is not about back-stabbing or screwing each other. This is about right and wrong, and that is exactly the behavior that can harm the rest of us with off-duty jobs. All it takes is one stupid person to screw it up for everyone else, and here we have more than enough examples.

You guys have not seen anything until you see this one!!!! I stumbled across it via Google…

http://208enterprise.com/

HOLY MACK!!! AND A MEMBER OF UPPER MANAGEMENT TO BOOT!!! I THOUGHT ALL THESE LIEUTENANTS KNEW THAT POLICY MANUAL INSIDE AND OUT!!!

Advertising yourself to the public using the FHP seal and your position As an FHP Lt. ??? I have seen it all now!!!

You guys are right about this arrogant Lt. getting away with murder. But it's not because of his his wifes daddy. He has been gone for years and didn't have that much influence to begin with. No, he gets away with it because he is padding the pockets of all his superiors and giving them 208 jobs. You don't bite the hand that feeds you even if you are his boss!!!

Not only is he violating policy and law enforcement ethics with this ad, he is ripping every trooper who works for him off. He charges exorbitant rates and skims money off everybody's checks on top of his "scheduling fee" (which by the way he does all day when he is supposed to be working his real job). Why do you think he created his own "208 Enterprises" corporation? They pay him he pays you and you have no idea what the real rate they paid him was! He is taking at least $5 an hour off your rate for every hour you work!!! I know, I have talked to some of these contractors and found out that I was not being paid what they were paying him for me to be out there.

There is a lot of other shady stuff going on with this Lt. When it comes to off duty. The post that said he is only here because it facilitates his off duty corporation was not kidding!!! You should see how this guy lives, like an investment banker!!!

You guys have not seen anything until you see this one!!!! I stumbled across it via Google…

http://208enterprise.com/

This guy sounds like a Randy Bush clone. Bush was one of the slime balls in Orlando who used a local Lt to keep on scheduling Troopers after he went to the Air Marshall Service. These guys take advantage of the rank of Lt to make $$ off Troopers. Audit your paychecks and especially your 1099 you get at the end of the year from this guy. Bush was really "WAY OFF" on his accounting practices. Just a word to the wise.

SOMEONE in FHP (with the facts on this situation) needs to drop a dime on FHP ID #1 for failure to take action on this Lieutenant with the Governor's office IMMEDIATELY![

Advertising yourself to the public using the FHP seal and your position As an FHP Lt. ??? I have seen it all now!!!

You guys are right about this arrogant Lt. getting away with murder. But it's not because of his his wifes daddy. He has been gone for years and didn't have that much influence to begin with. No, he gets away with it because he is padding the pockets of all his superiors and giving them 208 jobs. You don't bite the hand that feeds you even if you are his boss!!!

Not only is he violating policy and law enforcement ethics with this ad, he is ripping every trooper who works for him off. He charges exorbitant rates and skims money off everybody's checks on top of his "scheduling fee" (which by the way he does all day when he is supposed to be working his real job). Why do you think he created his own "208 Enterprises" corporation? They pay him he pays you and you have no idea what the real rate they paid him was! He is taking at least $5 an hour off your rate for every hour you work!!! I know, I have talked to some of these contractors and found out that I was not being paid what they were paying him for me to be out there.

There is a lot of other shady stuff going on with this Lt. When it comes to off duty. The post that said he is only here because it facilitates his off duty corporation was not kidding!!! You should see how this guy lives, like an investment banker!!!

Wow that sounds like Lt. Joe Lopez, in Miami the people who worked for him said the same things about him. He even got into a dispute with a trooper who was scheduling jobs on Miami Beach. That trooper was intimidated by some very powerful people on the beach but the job he was scheduling the person in charge of the hotel said he did not care he did not want Lopez scheduling his job, he wanted this trooper instead. Lopez blew a gasket and started a lot of problems.

Nothing happens to these guys because it is the only thing keeping FHP afloat. If they curtailed this stuff then about 75% of the Troopers would quit. With that being said though the system in place now is unethical and a breeding ground for corruption. When you have the ability to go out and solicit services to the public based on your position as a State Trooper with little to no oversight from the agency whose authority you are operating under then it creates several opportunities for problems to occur. As we can see from the example above.

Most if not all other agencies schedule offduty through the department. The customer pays the department and the department pays the officer. Most departments will also "skim" an administrative fee to pay for the costs of scheduling. When you have a Lt. like Mr. 208 Enterprises above doing this stuff favoritism and other issues will ultimately come about.

You guys have not seen anything until you see this one!!!! I stumbled across it via Google…

http://208enterprise.com/

Very shady!!!

You guys have not seen anything until you see this one!!!! I stumbled across it via Google…

http://208enterprise.com/

THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS. :evil:

THE USE OF FHP RESOURCES FOR PERSONAL GAIN BY THIS LIEUTENANT SHOULD RESULT IN HIS IMMEDIATE TERMINATION. :roll: :roll:


This LT does whatever he wants and no one - Major, Chief, GHQ - does a thing about it. He works for FHP when it doesn't interfere with his 208 and he has his hands in jobs all over. All this protection comes from his wife's Daddy who was a big something in Tally at one time. And now the LT doesn't even wear a uniform when he is working.

This guy has been doing this for years! I talked to a guy from one of the companies I was working for one night and he told me how this Lt. told him he had to hire 8 Troopers for the lane closure. I know for a fact that there were only 6 of us there. Yet the company paid for 8 because the supervisor told me. He seemed kind of curious though when he could only find 6, but he didn't really seem to care since he wasn't paying out of his pocket and he let it go. Where do you think the the two phantom Troopers pay went???? I'm sure that since this was a federally funded state DOT job that the contractor was being ripped off on that somebody in Tallahassee or Washington DC might care even if the contractor doesn't.

What a disppointment.
That website was not at all what I was expecting in an "FHP Escort Service".

As for the motorcycle training business http://www.aamtfl.com/about.html, the link below from Google shows the cached (previous) version; this is what the webpage looked like a few days ago, with the FHP Patch (before being removed since this post).

Wonder why it was taken off the business webpage if there is nothing wrong with the patch being there (in the column of sponsors, no less)?

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Hr6slPBhKVcJ:www.aamtfl.com/about.html+http://www.aamtfl.com/about.html&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Advertising yourself to the public using the FHP seal and your position As an FHP Lt. ??? I have seen it all now!!!

You guys are right about this arrogant Lt. getting away with murder. But it's not because of his his wifes daddy. He has been gone for years and didn't have that much influence to begin with. No, he gets away with it because he is padding the pockets of all his superiors and giving them 208 jobs. You don't bite the hand that feeds you even if you are his boss!!!

Not only is he violating policy and law enforcement ethics with this ad, he is ripping every trooper who works for him off. He charges exorbitant rates and skims money off everybody's checks on top of his "scheduling fee" (which by the way he does all day when he is supposed to be working his real job). Why do you think he created his own "208 Enterprises" corporation? They pay him he pays you and you have no idea what the real rate they paid him was! He is taking at least $5 an hour off your rate for every hour you work!!! I know, I have talked to some of these contractors and found out that I was not being paid what they were paying him for me to be out there.

There is a lot of other shady stuff going on with this Lt. When it comes to off duty. The post that said he is only here because it facilitates his off duty corporation was not kidding!!! You should see how this guy lives, like an investment banker!!!

This post hit the nail on the head. His wife's father has nothing to do with his untouchable status. The fact is his best friend is the Troop Commander. That's it. The TC used to be the DC and when he was this Lt. actually ran the District. He can and will do whatever he wants whenever, to whoever because he's got the Troop on lock. Just look at this---can you imagine how quick OIG would have you in the office if you started a commercial website with the patch plastered all over it? You would have have it up probably all of 2 hours before you got that call to be 51 for an interview.

You should check the 208 enterprises now!!!! He changed it!!! That didn't take long!!! He even put a nice message on there for everybody.....haha..... Funny stuff!!!

You should check the 208 enterprises now!!!! He changed it!!! That didn't take long!!! He even put a nice message on there for everybody.....haha..... Funny stuff!!!

That is actually pretty funny. But read between the lines----if everything was on the up and up why take it down? In my opinion, using the agency as he did for commercial promotion for his private company should be investigated by the Chief IG. If everything is within policy then no harm, no foul.

Nothing happens to these guys because it is the only thing keeping FHP afloat. If they curtailed this stuff then about 75% of the Troopers would quit. With that being said though the system in place now is unethical and a breeding ground for corruption. When you have the ability to go out and solicit services to the public based on your position as a State Trooper with little to no oversight from the agency whose authority you are operating under then it creates several opportunities for problems to occur. As we can see from the example above.

Most if not all other agencies schedule offduty through the department. The customer pays the department and the department pays the officer. Most departments will also "skim" an administrative fee to pay for the costs of scheduling. When you have a Lt. like Mr. 208 Enterprises above doing this stuff favoritism and other issues will ultimately come about.

Favortism is already there! If your not his click you don't get any work. One Sergeant in particular gets whatever he wants and three other Troopers! The rest of us get screwed! :evil:

The Dot boys need to check ya...bet you aint got your paddles, signs and your not certified. You all are once again LOSERS

Can't escape the cached version! http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:utuDohYBHdAJ:208enterprise.com/+208enterprise.com&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Can't escape the cached version! http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:utuDohYBHdAJ:208enterprise.com/+208enterprise.com&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us



Welcome Whinners!!!
Recent News People are Stupid!!
The easiest lie to tell is a big one!!
Especially when you can hide behind a computer screen!!
Hope you like this one better!!
GET A LIFE!!!!

Well obviously someone got caught and decided to try and cover their tracks! To bad for the cached version! I love what the new site says as quoted above….very humorous. To bad it’s not a joke.

Can't escape the cached version! http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:utuDohYBHdAJ:208enterprise.com/+208enterprise.com&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

The cached version does not have the logo on it ....so you're out of gas . Thanks for playing.....

Someone,please, file charges against this outrageous 208 related activity by the LT involved, and have the people removed from FHP employment. It's embarrassing!
:oops: :oops: :oops:

Yes Lt. Col. Lierton, do something about this SShit.

Can't escape the cached version! http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:utuDohYBHdAJ:208enterprise.com/+208enterprise.com&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us



Welcome Whinners!!!
Recent News People are Stupid!!
The easiest lie to tell is a big one!!
Especially when you can hide behind a computer screen!!
Hope you like this one better!!
GET A LIFE!!!!

Well obviously someone got caught and decided to try and cover their tracks! To bad for the cached version! I love what the new site says as quoted above….very humorous. To bad it’s not a joke.


There wouldn't be any reason to change the website if everything was on the up-and-up. The new site shows Lt. Robert K. Purser's true character! Do you know who is the president of 203 Enterprises? His wife - what does she have to do with 208? See for yourself - http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.ex ... ling_type= (http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.exe?action=DETFIL&inq_doc_number=P09000032989&inq_came_from=NAMFWD&cor_web_names_seq_number=0000&names_name_ind=N&names_cor_number=&names_name_seq=&names_name_ind=&names_comp_name=208ENTERPRISES&names_filing_type=)

Yes why would you put your wife as the president of a company that hires Troopers? Sounds very suspicious to me! But then again BOI could not investgate a parking lot crash so I'm sure he will never get caught. Anyway I'm pretty sure the BOI investigators all work 208 for him anyway.

I think it's funny how these Lieutenants decide that they will run the scheduling, and charge fees for doing so while it's the Troopers who go out there and stand in the sun/rain, while they sit back and rake in the checks. It's been going on for a while and is pathetic. Now to incorporate a business based off this premise, just wreaks of an unethical odor. Sure, they will say it takes up time and effort to schedule these details, MOSTLY DONE ON STATE TIME, I have seen it personally, which if I am not mistaken can be construed as double dipping. Check his phone records, I can assure you calls come in and go out during his x8 time. And to boot, I am sure those that cooperate with him will be the ones to get the jobs before the others. Sad state of affairs it is.

I think it's funny how these Lieutenants decide that they will run the scheduling, and charge fees for doing so while it's the Troopers who go out there and stand in the sun/rain, while they sit back and rake in the checks. It's been going on for a while and is pathetic. Now to incorporate a business based off this premise, just wreaks of an unethical odor. Sure, they will say it takes up time and effort to schedule these details, MOSTLY DONE ON STATE TIME, I have seen it personally, which if I am not mistaken can be construed as double dipping. Check his phone records, I can assure you calls come in and go out during his x8 time. And to boot, I am sure those that cooperate with him will be the ones to get the jobs before the others. Sad state of affairs it is.

Been going on in Ft. Myers for years, right LT.

By putting the company in his wifes name I'm sure he figured that he would be able to distance himself from the situation or hide it. My guess would be that if the heat comes down about double dipping he will say his wife is making the scheduling calls. I'm sure the phone he uses is in the wifes name as well. That way if an investigation were to show that calls were made for scheduling during his work hours it would be on her phone and he would say she made the calls, not him so he wouldn't be double dipping, which is BS and we all know it.

That raises a whole set of other issues. Should you have a corporation operated by the spouse of an FHP Lt employing troopers to work offduty jobs? Is that within or even addresed by policy? Is it legal and ethical? Is that really the case or is it just a shell for some underhanded business?

I just don't see how you as an individual should be allowed to freelance and whore out not only yourself but other Troopers for services. I understand the concept of working offduty as a LEO providing a service to the public, but profiting from a corporation that basically whores out troopers? I don't know.

I don't see an issue here. The Great State of Florida is pimpin' you out every day. Face it - they pay you 33K to do a job that should cost them 75K. Sounds like a pimpin' deal to me. The State is keepin' it's pimp hand strong. Peace Out.

I think using the FHP name or patch on a website is wrong. I'm all for capitalism and we all benefit from it when we work 208. I think airing it all out here is wrong though. It will only take a policy change to make 208 nearly disappear. Let's stop biting the hand that feeds us. And to those irresponsible scheduler's, get a clue and stop using stuff you shouldn't.

I don't know the person or the background and was just stumbling through the forums but putting a company in a wife's name would make it a minority owned enterprise and subject to certain advantages. It is a big scam but a perfectly legal one because some politicians think that replacing a less-than sign with a greater-than sign is the same as using an equals sign.

Does the company pay his wife a fee for scheduling? If so, where does that money come from? I would bet it doesn't come from the fee paid to Lt. 208 by the contractor. It probably comes off the top of what the troopers working the job are being paid. Someone told me this Lt. got in trouble before for paying his wife for scheduling 208. What arrogance!

Mearly advertising that FHP members can be employed in an off duty capacity is not that bad. In fact, a lot of other agencies do it too.

http://www.ircsheriff.org/community/off-duty-details
https://www.lcso.org/documents/hiredeputy.pdf
http://www.hcso.tampa.fl.us/getdoc/aad91bd2-ae70-407f-8767-2720afa6f200/Off-Duty-Deputy-Procurement.aspx
http://www.orionsecurityservices.com/offdutypolice.html
http://offdutyservices.com/

The Sheriff's Office(s) are advertising through the Department, typically utilizing a paid civilian detail coordinator (that being their primary job), and the details are then distributed various ways. This is an individual who decided to represent FHP for his own monetary gain. Question: could any Trooper in that District compete with this Lieutenant for the opportunity to schedule the details, or does he have a monopoly on the position? Why not assign the scheduling to a District clerk added officially to her job description?

Can't escape the cached version! http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:utuDohYBHdAJ:208enterprise.com/+208enterprise.com&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

The cached version does not have the logo on it ....so you're out of gas . Thanks for playing.....

But it still has your name on it! :lol:

Mearly advertising that FHP members can be employed in an off duty capacity is not that bad. In fact, a lot of other agencies do it too.

http://www.ircsheriff.org/community/off-duty-details
https://www.lcso.org/documents/hiredeputy.pdf
http://www.hcso.tampa.fl.us/getdoc/aad91bd2-ae70-407f-8767-2720afa6f200/Off-Duty-Deputy-Procurement.aspx
http://www.orionsecurityservices.com/offdutypolice.html
http://offdutyservices.com/


The last two links are in another state, so they don't apply. The others are listed by the agencies and the process involves going through the agency, not some rogue DUDE who has a separate business using agency insignia etc. So if this is your attempt at defending, I would say EPIC FAIL.

Mearly advertising that FHP members can be employed in an off duty capacity is not that bad. In fact, a lot of other agencies do it too.

http://www.ircsheriff.org/community/off-duty-details
https://www.lcso.org/documents/hiredeputy.pdf
http://www.hcso.tampa.fl.us/getdoc/aad91bd2-ae70-407f-8767-2720afa6f200/Off-Duty-Deputy-Procurement.aspx
http://www.orionsecurityservices.com/offdutypolice.html
http://offdutyservices.com/

I think that you missed the point. I do not believe that anybody here thinks that working off-duty law enforcement jobs is wrong. What I do believe is that like the post above states most if not all agencies coordinate the off-duty work through the agency, which only seems right since it is the agencies authority, equipment and resources that allows you to work the off duty job to begin with.

In the case of this Lt. he has created a shell company which is nothing more than a front to cover his unethical and policy violating behavior in an attempt to deflect any scrutiny from himself and use his wife as a scapegoat if it is ever discovered. If the allegations are true about him skimming money off of the troopers pay and scheduling phantom troopers to work for which the companies are paying for than it would also constitute theft. If he is scheduling as much off duty as I think he is then he is also doing it while on duty because there is no way you would have enough time to do it otherwise.

The fact that he is allowed to do whatever he wants and gets away with it is pretty clear and convincing. The fact that he has been slapped on the wrist once before years ago for some of the same behavior also shows that he is not concerned with the FHP policy and should be held accountable for his actions this time if proven true.

Let's just see if Ramil has the gonads to do anything about this. I doubt it.

Let's just see if Ramil has the gonads to do anything about this. I doubt it.
Nope Ramil is a to do boy! And is scared of causing waves. He 's trying to slide out of here without any problems.

This LT has almost all the 208 on the interstate and you better stay on his good side to get the work. New jobs go to him and no one else. His scheduling isn't limited to Palm Beach County either. Skimming, stealing, whatever you want to call it, he is there. Scheduling 208 during "work hours" - he is always on the phone talking about some job. HIs work hours are whatever fits in with 208. Someone needs to address this if Ramil won't - maybe Scott and his crew will.

Here's what I hope happens:

I want the legislature to approve this DPS thing, and then I want to see the DPS handle the 208 schedules. No more individual schedulers at all. Get paid via the DPS, and the department can get the money from the cantractee.

Alot of you hate what I just said, but I don't care. That method will stop the disaster that's in place right now. No more double-and-triple dipping. No more "turf wars". No more favoritism. No more scamming. No more hustling.

Here's what I hope happens:

I want the legislature to approve this DPS thing, and then I want to see the DPS handle the 208 schedules. No more individual schedulers at all. Get paid via the DPS, and the department can get the money from the cantractee.

Alot of you hate what I just said, but I don't care. That method will stop the disaster that's in place right now. No more double-and-triple dipping. No more "turf wars". No more favoritism. No more scamming. No more hustling.

That is going to put a big crimp in the life style of a few lieutenants who schedule off duty details while they are working for FHP. Those Lieutenants are going to take one heck of a pay cut, a bunch of them are making anywhere from $50,000 up to $100,000 a year just in scheduling fees while they are on duty with FHP to boot. Troop L, Troop K, Troop D, Troop E and Troop F all have Lieutenants guilty of this practice and the troop commanders are all aware of it and have allowed these Lieutenants to double and triple dip.

Here's what I hope happens:

I want the legislature to approve this DPS thing, and then I want to see the DPS handle the 208 schedules. No more individual schedulers at all. Get paid via the DPS, and the department can get the money from the cantractee.

Alot of you hate what I just said, but I don't care. That method will stop the disaster that's in place right now. No more double-and-triple dipping. No more "turf wars". No more favoritism. No more scamming. No more hustling.

That is going to put a big crimp in the life style of a few lieutenants who schedule off duty details while they are working for FHP. Those Lieutenants are going to take one heck of a pay cut, a bunch of them are making anywhere from $50,000 up to $100,000 a year just in scheduling fees while they are on duty with FHP to boot. Troop L, Troop K, Troop D, Troop E and Troop F all have Lieutenants guilty of this practice and the troop commanders are all aware of it and have allowed these Lieutenants to double and triple dip.


They need to be investigated and fired if this is true.

It's absolutly true!!!!! The Lt in WPB is making six figures easy from scheduling and skimming, and he runs it all through a corporation he started just for that purpose. FHP will do nothing to stop unethical policy violations and illegal acts. I guess FHP is no better than any other agency, fact is maybe it's worse!

Not only is it true it has been going on for years.

Troopers have been threatened in Troop F because the Lt. was going to lose a job to a trooper. The trooper was harassed and put under investigation. These Lieutenants act like the mafia and the Department has blindly allowed them to get away with what they are doing.

It's absolutly true!!!!! The Lt in WPB is making six figures easy from scheduling and skimming, and he runs it all through a corporation he started just for that purpose. FHP will do nothing to stop unethical policy violations and illegal acts. I guess FHP is no better than any other agency, fact is maybe it's worse!

almost everyone in the south has a corporation. how else are you going to claim $60,000 - $70,000 of tax free checks when you do your taxes? we have corporations to pay back the least possible. THANK YOU LT FOR ALL THE WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mrgreen:

We would be out of the 208 business if the state were to take it over. Can you imagine the logistical cluster f... involved in getting the companies to pay the FHP, the FHP to pay the troopers and Tallahassee to keep it all straight, for the whole state? Local offices can't cut checks etc...Sounds like a meltdown to me. The system we have sucks but I'm afraid the alternative would be worse. The application and approval process alone would preclude most contractors from using us. All of the work would end up at the S.O., P.D. or other SLEO agency. There could be no short call jobs, only jobs planned for months in advance after the contractors waded through the avalanche of red tape and the snails pace process..

We would be out of the 208 business if the state were to take it over. Can you imagine the logistical cluster f... involved in getting the companies to pay the FHP, the FHP to pay the troopers and Tallahassee to keep it all straight, for the whole state? Local offices can't cut checks etc...Sounds like a meltdown to me. The system we have sucks but I'm afraid the alternative would be worse. The application and approval process alone would preclude most contractors from using us. All of the work would end up at the S.O., P.D. or other SLEO agency. There could be no short call jobs, only jobs planned for months in advance after the contractors waded through the avalanche of red tape and the snails pace process..

Most agencies do it that way, including agencies triple the size of FHP. Besides, at that point it won't be FHP anymore, it will be DPS (if it were to happen). The same way there are court liaisons, there should be a section to handle 208. 208 requests/approvals would be obsolete; whatever is contracted could be worked by any DPS officer.

As for the other post about corporations, you're right about the tax purposes. However, the other poster was referring to the double/triple dipping, skimming, and scamming being done by Troopers under a corporate name.

http://www.asiteam.net/about/

http://www.trooperblog.com/

I noticed this link was posted on the asi site. It looks like it was created just to lend credibility to the asi site. I doubt whoever created the blog has FHP permission to use the official patch. Yet another example of someone taking advantage of the FHP name or images for their personal benefit.

That's shady.

[youtube:28fxig3z]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCXDE5YBmhA&feature=related[/youtube:28fxig3z]

It's absolutly true!!!!! The Lt in WPB is making six figures easy from scheduling and skimming, and he runs it all through a corporation he started just for that purpose. FHP will do nothing to stop unethical policy violations and illegal acts. I guess FHP is no better than any other agency, fact is maybe it's worse!

almost everyone in the south has a corporation. how else are you going to claim $60,000 - $70,000 of tax free checks when you do your taxes? we have corporations to pay back the least possible. THANK YOU LT FOR ALL THE WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mrgreen:


Yeah this isnt the first time I have herd of this. Security,consulting or whatever you call it when your receive your off duty hire back. Many Sheriff's Offices and Police have a detail cordinator and they log into a website to sign up for their details. The website reguates how many details your alotted that month to make it fair. Then the agency cuts you a check tax already taken out. I guess that is the safe way.

I've been audited...having the taxes taken out before payment is absolutely the best way.

But this is funny,

http://www.wpbf.com/news/25665745/detail.html?taf=wpb

But this is funny,

http://www.wpbf.com/news/25665745/detail.html?taf=wpb

For those of you who do not know who Bill Ferrel is he was the biggest womanizing, lazy, joke of trooper to ever grace the FHP uniform. After getting run out of the FAU police chiefs job he tried to come back to FHP and even they wouldn't hire him back. Since the FAU scandal he's been running around doing anything and everything from selling insurance to running his own security company. He claims to be a dignitary protection specialist because of his training at FHP and his time spent protecting the Lt. Gov. What a joke !!!!

Now he's running around protecting fake Lady Gaga's for a publicity stunt!!! He has no more qualifications to be doing dignitary protection than a bum off the street.

Ferrell had Ron Grimming and Frank Brogan both fooled to think he was something special. He is about as incompetent as they come. But he looks and talks a good game. If you don't really know him, you would be impressed with his demeanor. Came out of the same mold as Austin and Dawson.

Say what you want about him.....he landed his company on the evening news for a crapload of free advertising.........He is one of those guys who always lands on their feet.

Yes why would you put your wife as the president of a company that hires Troopers? Sounds very suspicious to me! But then again BOI could not investgate a parking lot crash so I'm sure he will never get caught. Anyway I'm pretty sure the BOI investigators all work 208 for him anyway.




Well that's not correct. Not all BOI Troopers would work for him. Lets be accurate here, everyone knew what is/was going on, however no one wanted to do anything about it. Its funny, when money is involved some people loose character! When you accept the role of a police officer you should hold yourself to a higher standard of excellence.
Sooner or later everyone will have to answer for what has been done. I am afraid this guy will ruin any further off duty for troopers.

Say what you want about him.....he landed his company on the evening news for a crapload of free advertising.........He is one of those guys who always lands on their feet.





1/24/13
Haaa haaa.... So.. how are those feet now???

What's going on? Other topic has been deleted...must be the PBA connection. Bottom line - wrong is wrong and if you get caught, then you must face the consequences. Time for looking the other way is over.

Burn baby, burn!

Its called the Freedom of Speech. I have been a Trooper for a long time now and these new Troopers, not all, but a lot are an embarrassment to the Patrol. IF everyone else in America has the Freedom of Speech, why let our department minimize ours? They will IF you let them. I agree with putting your credentials up, if it helps. Its not like they are paying you a fortune anyhow. And for you idiots who think otherwise, get the F^^k out of there and please find a job somewhere else. If you don't like what you see, go rat someone out, and watch how nothing happens, because most people on the Patrol hate your guts....


Did somebody forget about this?

[quote]5.08.02 POLICY
It is the policy of the Florida Highway Patrol to allow its personnel to engage in
secondary employment that does not conflict with primary job assignments or obligations to the
Division; and that does not discredit or embarrass the agency or diminish public confidence in
law enforcement or in the Division's commitment to integrity.

Or more to the point, how about this one?
3.03.06 (A) POLICY
17. Members will not authorize the use of their names, photographs or official titles which identify them as officers, in connection with testimonials or advertisements of any commodity or commercial enterprise, without the approval of the Director.

Somehow, methinks the Colonel didn't put his stamp of approval on any of these examples given. I have to agree, these are examples of troopers whoring out the Florida Highway Patrol's name and the title of "Trooper" for personal gain. The job has become secondary to them now, a means to an end to work more off-duty or secondary employment. Sad. :([/quote:3p97q7zf]

He got caught and arrested and fired.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/palm-beach/sfl-robert-k-purser,0,4601709.photo?track=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+sun-sentinel%2Fmostemailed+(Most+E-mailed+Stories+%2F+South+Florida+Sun-Sentinel)