Supervisor Backstabber

Question: I am fairly new to PBSO. Are there any supervisors that are honest, good people that believe in their workers and do not talk crap about them behind their backs and gossip? Where I come from, supervisors should not discuss their coworkers personal business with others and talk negatively about them and their work. Just wondering if all units are this way? Arent uppers suppose to be a role model? Why not say the crap to the person, not talk behind their back??

Welcome to the department FNG. We are striving to make this a better place to work. You may or may not know but three of our backstabbing uppers have left the department over this past week. This department is slowly but surely becoming a better place to work for all of us. Again, welcome to PBSO. We hope that you enjoy your stay with us.

Get with the supervisor and resolve it. Or you can talk vague on leo affairs to vent. But getting with the supervisor will feel much better.

Unfortunately, there is no talking to this supervisor....a wolf in sheep's clothing. Pure evil! :devil: Best thing for you is to transfer to another dept. or wait it out til super retires. Good luck with that!

Get used to it. It is the culture of PBSO. There is nothing in place to correct such behavior. We must wait until it hits the papers or some real light is shed on it before anything happens within the chain of command (if you could call it that). After the Richter debacle, the lesson is that any supervisor can pretty much abandon their responsibilities and it is ok. Get a haircut on duty; go home and watch the ballgame on duty; sit and watch movies in your car all day; hang out together and avoid calls; do the minimum on a call; etc. The attitude that the Sheriff breeds is: "Hey, at least I wasn't making love to the women in my zone" so leave me alone. If caught, go on out on retirement and the public will pay the bill for your lack of discipline; lack of accountability; non and malfeasance. Enough!

[RETIRED LT 275]

HELLO EVERYONE,

PAT AAHARA IS RUNNING FOR SHERIFF IN 2012

Who are the 3 that left?

Get used to it. It is the culture of PBSO. There is nothing in place to correct such behavior. We must wait until it hits the papers or some real light is shed on it before anything happens within the chain of command (if you could call it that). After the Richter debacle, the lesson is that any supervisor can pretty much abandon their responsibilities and it is ok. Get a haircut on duty; go home and watch the ballgame on duty; sit and watch movies in your car all day; hang out together and avoid calls; do the minimum on a call; etc. The attitude that the Sheriff breeds is: "Hey, at least I wasn't making love to the women in my zone" so leave me alone. If caught, go on out on retirement and the public will pay the bill for your lack of discipline; lack of accountability; non and malfeasance. Enough!
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stupidity reigns:
What a moron, two Supervisors resigned(we know what that means)and you act like they got away with something.
If every Deputy who was fooling around, retired, they would have to run 24 hour Academy classes to keep up with the losses.
Grow up, do your job, and stop worrying about everyone else.You still get the same paycheck, right?

Lets make a list of supervisor sergeant backstabbers. Who would be # 1 in your opinion!

"There is a great deal of talk about loyalty from the bottom to the top. Loyalty from the top down is even more necessary and is much less prevalent. One of the most frequently noted characteristics of great men who have remained great is loyalty to their subordinates."



General George S. Patton, Jr.

"There is a great deal of talk about loyalty from the bottom to the top. Loyalty from the top down is even more necessary and is much less prevalent. One of the most frequently noted characteristics of great men who have remained great is loyalty to their subordinates."



General George S. Patton, Jr.

In the back: Before you quote someone you might want to dig into their past.
Patton had some great big loyalty problems with those higher up then him, not while he was protecting his troops, but rather because the Commander -In Chief and Superior Officers did not agree with him.
Sometimes he ignored orders(and was punished) and finally he was forced out by publicly embarassing the Commander -In Chief, the President.
A great tank Commander yes, a great General yes, but LOYALTY to those upstairs, NO!

Loyalty is a two way street, read a lot of these threads, and there is an undercurrent against leadership, as there is against out Federal Gov't.
Yet in a Democracy things work from the bottom up, we vote, and they govern, we can blame no one but ourselves.
We are losing our Nation, we the people, by our lack of morals, ethics and greed, but it starts with us, leaders reflect us, we are the problem!Blaming the guy upstairs is a cop out, an excuse, shame on those who blame others!

We have met the enemy, and it is us. Nobody makes a Deputy do something immoral or unethical, that comes from within.
If we had a different Sheriff, morons would still pop up!
Blaming the Sheriff is misplaced, excuses and transfers the blame!

Much of what has taken place over the years since Bradshaw would not have if the agency were fully aware of consequences and if punishment were meted out fairly and uniformly. Leadership must accept the responsibility of the actions within the Agency. Problem: Bradshaw is NOT a leader - a mere weakling of a politician - of the lowest ilk.

What kind of street drugs are you smoking? If Bradshaw wasn't here then all of a sudden every deputy would stop screwing up and we would all be perfect? You are an idiot, truly in the deepest sense of the word. People are people, deputies or not. NO MATTER who was running the ship, the same people who did the stuff they have done for the past few years, would have done the exact same thing. Place the blame where it belongs, on the individuals who screwed up. You handfull of disgruntled employees who come on here every night crying about how this would be a perfect place to work if some mesiah ran the show, are pathetic and just passing the blame. What do you want, the Sheriff to fire every one for every single infraction? That is absurd. He is fair. He reads EVERY single IA and usually follows the reconnmendations of the employees Capt for punishment, who knows that employee best. No matter who was Sheriff, you few would still be on here crying and complaining about the same stuff. If you hate it here, go work some where else, or run for PBA president or sheriff, and then you run things the way you like. Otherwise, all you are doing is contributing negative energy, and you are wasting oxygen.

Don't hate it here. Just educated enough, mature enough, and experienced enough to know we are in dire need of real executive leadership....not a local amateur chief and professional politician with no leadership skills and very questionable ethics.