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07-12-2009, 04:53 PM
There is no doubt that our country is in an economic drought that has sucked up Obama’s stimulus money into a black hole, yet the Sheriff’s Office has not shown any indication it plans to make cutbacks. Unemployment is setting record highs and people with degrees are competing for simple sales jobs or waiting tables. I am perplexed as to how county tax dollars can be justifiably spent on educational benefits for management and command staff in the range of $40,000 per person when law enforcement is operating with a personnel shortage of over 100 deputies. If you multiply all of the civilian managers and all of the ranks of Captain and above receiving the county tax funded Masters Degree educations, there is hundreds of thousands of dollars being wasted that does not benefit the citizens in anyway. If an individual has aspirations to be in a supervisory position then it should be that individual’s responsibility and burden to attain the higher levels of education at their own expense. There is no direct benefit to the citizens by simply hanging another certificate on the wall to be used to cultivate another career after retirement. Another unnecessary expenditure is that of the law enforcement command staff driving the gas guzzling Chevrolet Tahoe and its fancy leather interior and other luxuries. I find it difficult to understand how a person in an administrative position who only drives from home to a desk needs such a perk. Wouldn’t a traditional sedan suit those needs and also save more tax dollars with fuel and the expense of purchasing a sedan versus an 8-passenger SUV.
Another huge financial burden on the citizen’s tax dollars is the plethora of civilians that are issued take home cars at the Sheriff’s Office. These civilian take home cars serve absolutely no service to the citizens and are clearly a privilege and unnecessary perk. The civilians drive from home to the Sheriff’s Office and park the car in a specially marked parking slot. There is no reasonable justification in these economic times to have hundreds of civilians wasting enormous amount of fuel at the county’s expense, maintenance and upkeep of the vehicles at the county’s expense and most troubling of all, the civilian manager’s issuance of vehicle takes precedence over the detectives and agents conducting investigations and providing protection to the public. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, it is a practice at the Sheriff’s Office to issue civilian managers brand new take home cars over detectives and agents with 80,000 to 100,000 miles on their vehicles. Wouldn’t it be prudent to take this unnecessary perk/privilege away and create a motor pool check out policy. If a civilian employee needs to travel for official purposes they can simply check out a vehicle from the motor pool. This is another expense that ranges in the hundreds of thousands of wasted county tax dollars. Now don’t forget about the deputies and civilians that live out of county and drive to and from work every day using county fuel. The out of county employees use a full tank of fuel every day just to drive to work then you have to tack on the fuel expended at work. One of the great benefits of the take home car program is that is provides the citizens with a higher profile patrol deterrence with more cars driving on the street, plus studies have shown that the wear and tear on take homes helps to maintain the fleet and not burn out the vehicle is they are running 24 hours a day. It is clear that those that live out of county do not serve the citizens with and extra patrol presence. How can a Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office car serve Palm Beach County citizens in another county? Then couple impact of high mileage, fuel costs and maintenance and upkeep and here is another impact in the range of hundreds of thousands of dollars.
There are also many programs and unnecessary positions at the Sheriff’s Office that could be eliminated in this economic crisis declared by our President. There are more than a few civilian managers that are receiving high paid salaries in the Community Involvement Unit that serve no law enforcement function and were created to generate votes for the election machine. Many of these civilian managers are also double-dipping because they have retired from the Sheriff’s Office and now they receive retirement plus a new salary and benefits that puts them in the $100,000-plus salary a year club. Is it necessary to have redundant positions in the Sheriff’s Office that are already being covered by positions in the Juvenile Justice System and Probation and Parole?
The Sheriff’s Office also maintains a Mounted Horse Unit that serves no realistic law enforcement function other than pageantry and show for the equestrian elite of the county. There is no useful need for mounted policemen in Florida in our current age of technology. The budget for scooping horse poop and parade rides costs the county over $300,000 a year in salary and expenses for maintain the unit. Since there is a shortage of somewhere in the neighborhood of 100 law enforcement deputies, the personnel of the mounted unit could be recycled into the road patrol division. You just have to ask yourself if the expense and resources are absolutely necessary in these times.
Take another unit with major operational expenses; the Marine Unit. Why does the Sheriff’s Office need to maintain several large boats, plus the personnel to perform a function that is already being done by the Florida Marine Patrol and U. S. Coast Guard? If a diver is needed, which is actually a rare occurrence, then deputies that maintain that expertise can be called out much like what happens with SWAT callouts. The fuel, maintenance and upkeep on a Sheriff’s Marine Unit fleet seems unnecessary when Federal and State agencies provide the service already. Here is another unit that could save the Sheriff’s Office hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Then there is the Sheriff’s Eagle Youth Academy. The facility and personnel costs the taxpayer in excess of $1 million. Again, is it necessary for a law enforcement agency to engage in a program that provides no law enforcement function to the citizens. These personnel could be recycled into law enforcement to replace the 100 shortage. The expense of eliminating the operations and Eagle Academy will free up hundreds of thousands of dollars. My question has always been why do the A-students get scholarships and the F-students get handouts; but the B & C students get nothing but the shaft and are given the burden of supporting the fancy lifestyle of the A-students and supporting the retarded-rejects of F-students? Is this expenditure of county tax dollars really necessary since the Sheriff’s Office has refused to publish the recidivism rate of Eagle Academy attendees. There is a reason why the recidivism rate is not released. The reason is simple; the kids are circulated back right into the dysfunctional home, culture and neighborhood they came from. This is another example of a waste of tax dollars.
Now let’s look at the supervisory ranks of the Sheriff’s Office. The span of control is supposed to be 5 subordinates for every 1 supervisor, but if you do the math it actually comes out to 2 or three supervisors for every 5 subordinates. This span of control issue is a major impact on everyday operations because supervisors do not perform any investigative functions. Supervisor simply stand around and watch and criticize instead of taking an active role in training, mentoring, guiding or directing. Take the Homicide Bureau for instance. Of the six supervisors in homicide; only two have ever worked as a homicide detective so how can someone supervise a job they have never done before? Is it necessary to have a Lieutenant, Captain and Sergeant all standing around at a homicide scene so-said supervising while 2 or 3 detectives investigate the crime. There are just as many people standing around and providing no function as they are conducting the investigation. This happens also in the Narcotics Bureau and Child Crimes Unit. There are times when the supervisory ranks actually outnumber the amount of investigators. Do you think that maybe one less supervisory rank could add a few more investigators to get the job done. There has to be some liability in assigning a supervisor to a job they have never performed especially when it’s a high profile crime like a murder. If the supervisors can’t rely on their experience to give advice, who do the subordinates go to when they need a question answered? There is clearly a span of control issue that promotes less operational productivity when supervisors are considered to be “Non-working”. The operational burden ends up on the shoulders of the subordinates who are obviously overwhelmed at times why a supervisor just stands by and watches the show. The span of control should be changed to 10 subordinates to 1 supervisor. The citizens of the county need more people that provide them with a service than just stand around at a $95,000-plus salary.
Is it also necessary to pay Sheriff’s Office employees longevity bonuses each year? Now the managers and all Captains and above receive free medical coverage for life after they retire, then they also receive hefty longevity bonuses and other special assignment pay. The Sheriff’s Office recently merged with the Royal Palm Beach Police Department and Lake Worth Police Departments and even though employees of these agencies worked for less than a year with the Sheriff’s Office, the employees of Lake Worth and Royal Palm Beach received their longevity bonuses in the tens of thousands of dollars. The longevity bonuses were designed for employees that have served over 10 years, but the merger agencies received the bonuses anyway. Is it necessary to allow the longevity bonuses when the Sheriff’s Office is already subsidizing the health and dental plans for employees with in excess of 10 million dollars?
One of the biggest county cost saving endeavors would be to unite Fire Rescue and the Sheriff’s Office dispatch centers. Why is it necessary to have two separate 911 communications centers? The merger of fire and sheriff’s communications centers would save millions of dollars and better serve the citizens. You could double the personnel answering 911 calls and eliminate the liaison troubles in state of emergency situations. United the county in one 911 Emergency Communications Center is the key to better serving the citizens of this county. The Sheriff’s Office and Fire Rescue need to explain in great detail why this has not been done. I can tell you it comes down to stubbornness and rivalry instead of placing the citizens as a priority. This would save millions of dollars for the county tax payers.

Now here’s some food for thought!!!! Let the whining begin…

07-12-2009, 06:49 PM
OK tough guy. How about you run for and win the next Sheriff race and then make the changes you want instead poking holes in everyone else program.

Nothing is perfect and it is complainers like you that have actually never picked up a mapbook to go into harms way. Jerk.

07-12-2009, 08:09 PM
Huh?!? :roll: The original poster made some good points. As for the last poster who responded, I think you're the one that's coming across as a jerk. Grow up!!! If you disagree with HIM or HER, state your argument like a reasonable adult.

07-12-2009, 10:58 PM
OK tough guy. How about you run for and win the next Sheriff race and then make the changes you want instead poking holes in everyone else program.

Nothing is perfect and it is complainers like you that have actually never picked up a mapbook to go into harms way. Jerk.
there were some good ideas and food for thought , to post your remark you have got to be the new breed of punk rookie that has a bigger mouth than a brain .grow up "tough guy"

07-13-2009, 12:40 AM
All great points but unfortunately, nobody will listen. Have you noticed that we are spending money like gangbusters right now? Go to motor-pool and check out the new 1/2 million $$$ command center that just came in. Don't we have one of those you ask? Why yes, we do...but 2 toys is better than 1. Oh yeah, and remember that bike unit that was rumored to be shut down. Our commander said that he heard in a meeting last week that they just gave the bike unit enough money to buy 100++++ new bikes. Fine with me, but don't let anyone tell you we are short on cash. This crazy spending is not slowing down. We have to get rid of a lot of money before the end of budget year. (oh yeah, but we're still short 100 cops).

Focus your energy on things you can control. You'll be much happier.

07-13-2009, 02:39 AM
That bus was from a grant. If you don't like what the budget looks like, then join a political action committee and make changes. Or, run for office yourself. Or, better yet keep your big pie-hole shut and remember it is a whole lot easier to critize others, but what have you done to reduce the budget.

How much OT have you put in last year versus dedicated a few of those hours to the job. Or have you ever donated a half a tank of gas instead of risking us all loosing the take home car program. Have you ever worked a few extra hours without hiding behind the CBA. How many court OT slips for 3 hours have you put in instead of just doing it for the job. Pride of bringing a whole case together.

You can complain about everything and anything if you think about it long enough. Or you can stop wasting time and energy and trust the leaders that are in place. This sheriff has done the best of all 5 sheriffs I've seen. Not perfect but the best. No one will ever, ever make the sheriff's office perfect, no matter how great a speech, a promise, or program.

All I hear around the hallways is how much Jack Maxwell is going to do a better job. Well, all I can say is he had his chance and failed. Failed big time.

And knowing JP from District 1 is going to be a colonel in his administration scares the shit out of me.

Let the one who is without sin cast the first stone.

07-13-2009, 03:18 AM
The bike unit got an increase in its budget because a deputy in Dist 1 (K.S.) took the time to write up a proposal showing how it would save the SO a large amount of cash to put deputies on bikes. The key of course is to actually make them ride them, and not just get the bike so they can get the uniform, but if they actually do ride, then it is a big plus all around for SO. Instead of spending energy complaining on here, why don't you take your ideas and do the same thing?

07-21-2009, 12:53 AM
Every elected official, especially in Palm Beach County, should audit, ridicule and justify each line of their budgets. The Sheriff may hold the position of a benevolent dictator when it comes to the control of the Sheriff’s Office budget, but that does not mean the Sheriff and his administrative staff cannot be held accountable for their expenditures of tax dollars. There has been recent cries for wolf by many police chiefs, sheriffs and Fire Chiefs about how cutbacks will affect the safety of the citizens. Some may buy in to this grandstanding paranoia, but the basics concerning safety and service will always be there; it’s the waste taking place behind the curtains that needs to be addressed. If our County Commissioners had one single ounce of integrity or courage, they would compel the Sheriff to conduct an in depth due diligence report on his budget. Questions should be discussed in a County Commissioners Hearing / public forum so the citizens can understand where, how and why our taxpayers dollars being spent in the Sheriff’s budget. The scare tactics of “you’ll force me to cut back protection” is absurd and fundamentally a lie. The 911-responsers will be cut last folks, so don’t buy in to the rhetoric and if cutbacks are going to be so detrimental, I am sure the Sheriff conducted his due diligence report on the affects of the cutbacks, so let’s see the reports. The simple fact is I can guarantee that there has been no due diligence or even the slightest audit of any of the Sheriff’s Office budget. I find this troubling since there are many functions and redundant positions that could be eliminated in a time of financial crisis.
Furthermore is there a need to waste hundreds of thousands of dollars on a promotional process where less than thirty promotions will be made? It’s roughly $ 300,000 of tax payers money going to a private company every 2 years when the Sheriff’s Office could create and perform its own process in-house. The Supreme Court just overturned a ruling concerning Firefighters promotional process that prevents frivolous minority law suits that have created these monsters of promotional processes.
Parity in pay with Corrections and Law Enforcement is another “No Brainer”. There is no comparison to babysitting versus having to wear a gun and a vest just to make sure you survive your shift. Sorry, but the level of commitment, level of knowledge and responsibility and level of training clearly indicate that parity in pay fundamentally doesn’t justify the same level of pay.
One of the most compelling arguments is the civilian take home car program. It is literally sucking hundreds of thousands of tax dollars out of the budget and the citizens get absolutely no return. I can’t believe the local media hasn’t jumped all over the amount of waste the citizen take home car program is costing the tax payers.
Another huge budget issue is the battle between the Fire and Sheriff’s communications centers. I am totally perplexed as to how anyone at the Sheriff’s Office or Fire Rescue can justify the need for two separate 911-Dispatch centers when one consolidated emergency communications center would link fire and police in one location for command and control purposes especially during hurricanes. Let’s go County Commissioners, get your buttocks in gear and hold the Sheriff’s Office and Fire Rescue accountable for this blunder of wasted tax payer dollars. I think a simple due diligence report justifying the need for separate communications centers will force this inner-service rivalry to cease.
The out of county Sheriff’s employees and their take home cars are bleeding the vehicle fleet dry of maintenance and fuel costs and living out of county defeats all the purposes of having a take home car; so why is this continuing to happen? There has to be some sort of secret sage like justification that us common sense folks just can’t understand. How about another due diligence report.
Now I am sure ya’ll are just tired of me and my due diligence report recommendations so let’s just leave the due diligence to the Captains and Civilian Managers and above that make $140,000 a year salary plus having their masters degrees paid for by the tax payers. After all, those fancy educations should be used for more than just hanging the ticket on the wall and preparing to work for the Accreditation and Promotional Process Private Companies. I would hope that every commander/manager is prepared to justify all positions and all expenditures and ready to give a briefing to the County Commissioners.
People are unemployed at record numbers and the President has said he does not understand why his bail out has not worked. This certainly is a crisis situation and we are all being forced to revert back to the basics, so isn’t it prudent that the Sheriff also hedge his operations on the basics instead of the fluff and waste. I also understand that the Police Union has fostered the mentality for many that they are entitled, but we do live in a right to work state and when droves of citizens are unemployed it is tantamount to rubbing salt in a wound with all of these entitlement like benefits. Until this crisis is over:
Longevity pay should be eliminated
Cost of living raises should be suspended
Out of county take home cars should be revoked
Civilian take home cars should be revoked
Parity in Pay for Corrections / LE should be revoked
Managerial Educational Bonuses should be suspended
In-service training should be every 2-years with state regulated requirements
Accreditation Process should be suspended
Promotional Process will all be done IN-HOUSE
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07-21-2009, 02:40 AM
Why stop there... Why dont we give the Citizens of Patrol guns and give them more responsibilty...
And we should all donate every other check to the counties fiscal crisis....
yeah, lets walk the beat... we dont need cars.
Some of you should stick to doing your 10-50's, and let the brass figure out the rest....

07-21-2009, 02:57 AM
ahh.... where does PBSO PARK 500 plus cars if not in my driveway? PBIA runway two?

If you every worked at a municipal PD, you would know what a hot-seat road patrol looks like after a year, let alone SMELL like... total basket cases with untrackable damage.

There is a present factor that is untrackable when it comes to the take home PATROL car program in neighborhoods/roadways.

I would totally agree having the civilians cars taking away. THAT IS A TOTAL WASTE. No call out factor, 9 to 5ers.... come on. Total perk.