Boynton Beach PD Going Green

SOONER THAN YOU THINK!!!!!

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/palmbeach/sfl-flpboyntonbudget0729pnjul29,0,384431.story

Blow it out your ass. If you think what you read in the paper is accurate...especially from ANYTHING written by Erika Pesantes, you're a freaking moron. PBSO has a $34 mil budget shortfall - they are the ones in need of help. In fact, as I understand it, BBPD is looking to expand west to increase the size of their tax base so in actuality, a small part of PBSO is going NAVY blue! Sucka!

Not going to happen anytime soon.

Blow it out your ass. If you think what you read in the paper is accurate...especially from ANYTHING written by Erika Pesantes, you're a freaking moron. PBSO has a $34 mil budget shortfall - they are the ones in need of help. In fact, as I understand it, BBPD is looking to expand west to increase the size of their tax base so in actuality, a small part of PBSO is going NAVY blue! Sucka!


Hey Jackass!!!! Where is Boynton going to get the money to expand? It costs money to expand.

Tax revenues derived through immanent domain. And since you were not able to come up with that rationale on your own, I suppose you must be another deputy looking to make the heard bigger so you are more effectively able to hide your inability to draw reasonable conclusions. Don’t worry, I am sure you still write a mean .610(1) ticket. Now go back to sleep until you get that next call.

Tax revenues derived through immanent domain. And since you were not able to come up with that rationale on your own, I suppose you must be another deputy looking to make the heard bigger so you are more effectively able to hide your inability to draw reasonable conclusions. Don’t worry, I am sure you still write a mean .610(1) ticket. Now go back to sleep until you get that next call.

Jackass learn to spell before you try to sound intelligent. Key word "try". Its EMINENT DOMAIN...............not IMMANENT DOMAIN. Try Google next time.

There should be no doubt in anyone's mind that we will be going green and it will be just a matter of time. As our other brother and sister city agencies start to go "green", you will see that others will follow. It has been talked about for as long as most of us have been on the job, but now the time has come because it comes down to dollars and just makes good sense. I can guarantee you that a little $34 million dollar discrepancy will not create any problems for them over there at PBSO, and it would be ignorant or moronic to think otherwise. The sheriff is awesome over there. Just look at how he defends his people and look how far he has taken the agency in the short amount of time that he has been in office over there.

There should be no doubt in anyone's mind that we will be going green and it will be just a matter of time. As our other brother and sister city agencies start to go "green", you will see that others will follow. It has been talked about for as long as most of us have been on the job, but now the time has come because it comes down to dollars and just makes good sense. I can guarantee you that a little $34 million dollar discrepancy will not create any problems for them over there at PBSO, and it would be ignorant or moronic to think otherwise. The sheriff is awesome over there. Just look at how he defends his people and look how far he has taken the agency in the short amount of time that he has been in office over there.



AMEN BROTHER!!!

The grass is not always greener with the green. Having worked for both agencies (BBPD and PBSO, currently employed at PBSO), I would go back to BBPD in a heartbeat with their new leadership. I left under the M. Gage rule, and I made the right choice at the time, however, I wish I would have stuck it out. PBSO is a lot more political, and a lot more bullshit to deal with. Under the new reign at BBPD, you are more able to be a cop. PBSO is not all it is cracked up to be unless you have perfected your d**k sucking skills.

If I was BBPD, DBPD, or Boca PD, I'd hold out as long as your budget allows.

The grass is not always greener with the green. Having worked for both agencies (BBPD and PBSO, currently employed at PBSO), I would go back to BBPD in a heartbeat with their new leadership. I left under the M. Gage rule, and I made the right choice at the time, however, I wish I would have stuck it out. PBSO is a lot more political, and a lot more bullshit to deal with. Under the new reign at BBPD, you are more able to be a cop. PBSO is not all it is cracked up to be unless you have perfected your d**k sucking skills.

If I was BBPD, DBPD, or Boca PD, I'd hold out as long as your budget allows.


THEN LEAVE!!!!

Yawn... would PBSO please get off of our board and go dream about getting bigger someplace else? Really, it's getting old already.

Just wait and see how it goes with Lake Worth. They are sadly mistaken, on anything changing. The only difference is now the citizens will never see a cop. I live in SO jurisdiction and never see a cop in my neighborhood. If I want to see them I just run up to 7-11, there are always at least 4 units hanging out there. PBSO's specialized units do a decent job, but road patrol are a bunch of slugs.

Just wait and see how it goes with Lake Worth. They are sadly mistaken, on anything changing. The only difference is now the citizens will never see a cop. I live in SO jurisdiction and never see a cop in my neighborhood. If I want to see them I just run up to 7-11, there are always at least 4 units hanging out there. PBSO's specialized units do a decent job, but road patrol are a bunch of slugs.

THEN MOVE!!!!!!!!!

Yawn... would PBSO please get off of our board and go dream about getting bigger someplace else? Really, it's getting old already.

Just wait and see how it goes with Lake Worth. They are sadly mistaken, on anything changing. The only difference is now the citizens will never see a cop. I live in SO jurisdiction and never see a cop in my neighborhood. If I want to see them I just run up to 7-11, there are always at least 4 units hanging out there. PBSO's specialized units do a decent job, but road patrol are a bunch of slugs.



I live in Boynton and never see a Boynton officer in my neighborhood. It goes both ways, I can go to the Golden Corral and see an entire shift eating and calls are stacking. Delayed burglaries hold for hours in the city limits. You must be real scum to badmouth another police agency. Go ask residents in Wellington and Royal Palm and all the contract cities, PBSO is everywhere. Yes, the unincorporated area is less staffed, but that's the way it is all over the state. Wellington has more Deputies than Boynton has officers on a shift. Don't come on here tooting your own whistle because last time I checked Boynton has huge crime problem. Get back to work and maybe that will change.

The grass is not always greener with the green. Having worked for both agencies (BBPD and PBSO, currently employed at PBSO), I would go back to BBPD in a heartbeat with their new leadership. I left under the M. Gage rule, and I made the right choice at the time, however, I wish I would have stuck it out. PBSO is a lot more political, and a lot more bullshit to deal with. Under the new reign at BBPD, you are more able to be a cop. PBSO is not all it is cracked up to be unless you have perfected your d**k sucking skills.

If I was BBPD, DBPD, or Boca PD, I'd hold out as long as your budget allows.

I guess you couldn't make it as a Deputy. I too worked for both places, and PBSO is a lot better. I talk with Boynton Officers and the same crap happens there as it does anywhere. I haven't heard on anyone wanting to go back to a city PD after working for the Sheriff. You must be trying to stir the pot

I can’t believe what I am reading. Two professional law enforcement officers bashing one another and their agencies. I work for a city police force in PBC, and happen to live in Wellington, and have relatives who live in the city limits of Boynton Beach. I can say this, driving down the street in Wellington, you will almost always run into a Green and White, the SO is everywhere out here and in Royal Palm. Per State Law, the unincorporated areas have always had fewer officers per population than a city. When I visit my family in Boynton Beach, I often see BBPD doing their jobs. I have seen many officers hanging out together in the city late at night. Big deal every police agency does this. I also know PBSO does not transport their own prisoners unless they work central part of the county. A lot of Deputies transport their prisoners to 7-11, at Le Chalet and Military or Hypo and Lawrence to do their paperwork while awaiting transport. Honestly, this bickering has to stop. Everyone has their opinion and both BBPD and PBSO are awesome agencies with great leadership. I like bigger agencies, and mobility, but I know Boynton would be a fun place to work. Instead of bashing one another, remember when it hits the fan like it did a couple of days ago we are all coming to help. The last chase involving BBPD had BSO, Delray, FHP, and PBSO helicopter involved. When I fighting for my life, I don’t care who is coming as long as you’re on the same team. The citizens don’t care what color uniform we wear, they still don’t like us.
I have friends working for BBPD and PBSO. The same political BS happens in both places, and certain people are selected to units based on how much butt they kiss. Welcome to life, this happens everywhere. PBSO is not nearly as political as say Boca, Palm Beach, Gardens, Delray and so on. BBPD has a good administration now as does PBSO but that can always change. We have a Sheriff who is fighting for his troops and does not back down. That was even posted on the Delray forum, that’s great. BBPD has a Chief who does the same. The color of the uniform does not make a police any better than another, it comes down to the individual. Two people bashing each other show both agencies in a negative light. Stay safe.

Blow it out your ass. If you think what you read in the paper is accurate...especially from ANYTHING written by Erika Pesantes, you're a freaking moron. PBSO has a $34 mil budget shortfall - they are the ones in need of help. In fact, as I understand it, BBPD is looking to expand west to increase the size of their tax base so in actuality, a small part of PBSO is going NAVY blue! Sucka!

As a member of COWBRA, we will not allow BBPD to move west. We have to vote in favor of it of any annexations, and I can assure you it will not happen. We love our Deputies and our District 6 commander. We call and they are here fast, and they are always professional. Having lived in the city limits a short time ago I can't say the same for BBPD. There are no talks of annexations at this time. The accusation made by what I’m guessing is a Boynton Police Officer against PBSO is grossly untrue. I see Deputies in my neighborhood every week as they have directed patrol assignments in every community. Sorry to chime in on your board, but I can't stand those who make ignorant frivolous statements. I do not discredit Boynton PD they have a lot more going on than probably any city their size in PBC. I do wish the best for a speedy recovery to your Sergeant, and hope you all stay safe.

As long as Chief Immler is at Boynton, I doubt we are merging with anyone. Our department and Chief are setting the standard for other departments in the area.

As long as Chief Immler is at Boynton, I doubt we are merging with anyone. Our department and Chief are setting the standard for other departments in the area.

No way is BBPD setting any standards. It's a good department, but not all that great. Immler is 10-8

As long as Chief Immler is at Boynton, I doubt we are merging with anyone. Our department and Chief are setting the standard for other departments in the area.

No way is BBPD setting any standards. It's a good department, but not all that great. Immler is 10-8

Setting standards would be reducing crime in Boynton. Boynton is still a cesspool with two shootings last night alone. Boynton some great benefits, but so does every other agecny in the area. There are ups and downs to every police agency. Stay safe.

As long as Chief Immler is at Boynton, I doubt we are merging with anyone. Our department and Chief are setting the standard for other departments in the area.

Immler is 10-8

Gotta agree. You couldn't find a better leader at any police agency. Maybe he'll run for sheriff and take over boynton...now there's a thought.

As long as Chief Immler is at Boynton, I doubt we are merging with anyone. Our department and Chief are setting the standard for other departments in the area.

Immler is 10-8

Gotta agree. You couldn't find a better leader at any police agency. Maybe he'll run for sheriff and take over boynton...now there's a thought.

I think the Sheriff is just as much of a leader as Immler. The Sheriff has always supported his troops with everything. I wouldn't mind seeing him run for Sheriff when Bradshaw is done.

I agree. Bradshaw has done a lot to solidify his spot as the sheriff of PBC. When he is ready to retire, I'd say Immler would most likely be the absolute best replacement PBSO could hope for.

I agree. Bradshaw has done a lot to solidify his spot as the sheriff of PBC. When he is ready to retire, I'd say Immler would most likely be the absolute best replacement PBSO could hope for.

Amen. Immler is a great leader and person as is the Sheriff. Chief Lincoln at Lantana is awesome too. They are becoming fewer and fewer as time goes on. Boynton and PBSO need to thank their lucky stars for having great leadership. Stay safe.

Immler has my vote if he runs; he has done a lot for the BBPD and the community. He has that kick-@$$, with class, northern style thing. He hasn't forgotten where he came from, which a lot of leaders tend to do. Bradshaw has also done a great job with the S.O. Congrats on the re-election.

Boynton prepares to slash nearly one-fifth of entire budget

I remember not to long ago talking with a long time Lake Worth officer about their P.D. merging with the S.O. He told me that it would never happen! Never say never…….
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/localnews/content/local_news/epaper/2009/03/29/0329boynton.html

Boynton prepares to slash nearly one-fifth of entire budget
By DON JORDAN

Palm Beach Post Staff Writer

Sunday, March 29, 2009

BOYNTON BEACH — With an economy in the tank, a housing market in shambles and revenue slowing to a trickle, city officials say all signs indicate that the coming budget process will be difficult to swallow.

That's why City Manager Kurt Bressner said he plans to tackle the budget - with an estimated shortfall of as much as $16 million, or about one-fifth of this year's entire budget - in what he calls "bite-sized chunks" over the next few months.

It started earlier this month, when he offered city commissioners a variety of cost-cutting and cash-creating options to chew on, including wage freezes, layoffs and increased taxes. With a shortfall so large, it's near impossible to expect that employees won't be affected and taxes or other fees won't have to increase, he told them.

"Last year, we were able to do some one-time deals to help balance the budget. We're running out of one-time deals," Bressner said. "This isn't alchemy. We can't change lead into gold."

He added that the city can no longer afford to continue operating with the reasoning that "we've always been doing it that way. We don't have the luxury to do that anymore. Those programs that are nice to have and nice to do - those need to be put off for a couple of years."

The city's budget has nearly doubled in the last five years, a jump that Bressner attributes to increased public safety. In that time, the city added two dozen firefighters and 26 police officers and has cut response times.

Public safety costs, mostly in personnel, account for 62 percent of this year's entire budget. And city commissioners have indicated that they aren't willing to change that focus.

"I will not sign off on any cuts to public safety," Vice Mayor Jose Rodriguez told Bressner and his colleagues during a meeting earlier this month. However, the five-member panel wasn't in agreement about how to handle an annual fire services assessment for homes and other buildings.

The annual residential rate is $68, but the city could generate an additional $3.8 million by bumping that up to $146 and increasing fees for non-residential buildings. Commissioner Ron Weiland said "people are struggling" and he would oppose increased assessments or property taxes. Rodriguez has claimed that the assessment is a "hidden tax" and that what it's used for - firefighters' salaries, equipment replacements and other items - should be folded into the city's regular budget process.

The city's union contracts with police officers and firefighters aren't up for renewal this year, but fire Capt. Dean Kinser, president of the local firefighters' union chapter, said he expects city officials to contact the union about renegotiating salaries and benefits.

Kinser said the city has done an excellent job of keeping employees informed about the financial situation, which has helped to alleviate a lot of uncertainty and fears. Bressner has asked employees to submit ideas on how to deflect costs in their own departments. City leaders have already received about 20 suggestions, including ones suggesting salary freezes citywide and reduced work weeks, Bressner said.

Still, Kinser said there isn't much room for cuts in the department without affecting services. Three of 123 firefighter positions have been left vacant and the department has already cut into training programs, he said.

"You look at us on paper and our department is very streamlined," he said.

Boynton Beach police Detective Toby Athol, local chapter president for the Palm Beach County Police Benevolent Association, refused to comment for this story and referred all questions to the union's county office. Union president John Kazanjian said Friday morning that he did not have time to respond to questions until the following week.
Other options for cutting costs or increasing revenue include selling off any city-owned surplus property, moving to a four-day work week and shifting employee pension plans to a defined contribution system, similar to a 401(k) plan, that doesn't put a greater financial burden on the city when investment markets falter.

Commissioners must also decide whether to increase the property tax rate to offset the budget shortfall. Due to declining property values, keeping the same tax rate as this year would generate $1.4 to $2.8 million less in tax revenue next year. The current tax rate is the lowest in 10 years.

And while some commissioners have expressed their hesitation at increasing taxes during an economic slump, Mayor Jerry Taylor said there may be few options.

"I'm willing to raise it up," Taylor said. "We kind of have to bite the bullet on some of these things."

The city commission must approve its budget by Oct. 1.

I guess it was a rumor...... 1 year later, still not green!

I agree. Bradshaw has done a lot to solidify his spot as the sheriff of PBC. When he is ready to retire, I'd say Immler would most likely be the absolute best replacement PBSO could hope for.
Why don't you guys at PBSO take Sheriff Lamberti off our hands he is a great Sheriff you guys will like him allot. We will miss him but we will make the sacrifice for our fellow LEO's.