DISPATCH

"Unit calling can you repeat I was sending out Parking services for a vehicle boot , oh wait hold on ...sorry AB is calling in on their lot checks ... I'll get back to you"

The email the Lt. put out made a lot of sense and over all is a good thing. We are finally getting away from the weird thing of standing behind your patrol vehicle to conduct your traffic stop and complete need paperwork, which was very unorthodox anyways.

My question is, will dispatch be paying attention to the person on a traffic stop, especially if there are multiple traffic stops going on at once, or will they be multitasking or doing other things when you need their attention?

You don't sit inside your car to write tix, do you?

10-24, 10-46, 10-94, 10-35, all put on hold because we don’t have funds, or any common sense coming from dispatch. They can’t even, well at least not on days even get simple stuff done 100% correct most of the times.

Now patrol is put aside and our safety might be put in jeopardy. Great. Where is the SOP or training protocol for the officers on this topic?

Sure we can run our own stuff but in order for dispatch to attach it to the call as the LT’s email states, dispatch is going to have to run it anyways.

I don’t even want to get into the total debacle that this will become. I just hope someone doesn’t have to get hurt as a result.

You don't sit inside your car to write tix, do you?

Do any officers in this area or anywhere, stand outside their car to write a "Tix"? The answer is No.

I wasn't taught that way a long time ago, but I see most guys sit in their cars today. Have been for many years. I don't think it's safe at all. I'll continue standing outside my car to write tickets. If you want to be a sitting duck inside your car, with your head buried on your chest writing, have at it.

Dispatchers will have their attention diverted between the parking services people and the A/B pain in the butts.

This is one of the many pea brained Benson Pipe dreams that has now become a reality all to save a buck and increase the possibility of one of us getting hurt.

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I wasn't taught that way a long time ago, but I see most guys sit in their cars today. Have been for many years. I don't think it's safe at all. I'll continue standing outside my car to write tickets. If you want to be a sitting duck inside your car, with your head buried on your chest writing, have at it.
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Taught that way a long time ago? Your long time ago was when? Your few years at USF PD? No where have I ever seen that officers stand outside their car while writing a Ticket besides at USF. Sitting behind your car with your head burried? You can keep your head burried outside the car too, right?

So you stand outside your car and are blinded by the strobes while writing your tickets. At least in your car you have good vision and can duck down, and put your car in drive and get the hell out of there if something goes wrong, with an engine block to protect you. If are pulled up right behind the car which I hear is taught there by all the rookie FTO's, then you have no reaction time. In the worst case scenerio the driver or passenger jumps out with a gun, you drive out.

Standing outside your vehicle/protection, you have no where to go, but to dodge around the car and the blinding strobe lights. More practice should be taught on how to draw and shoot while sitting in the vehicle in my opinion.[/quote:3od4ndkt]

This is not just a traffic stop issue folks. It’s much more involved. You need backup. Someone is running from you. Someone just assaulted you. You see a crime in progress and you need to get information to dispatch. Dispatch misses a BOLO because they are too distracted dealing with the bovine fecal matter from parking and A/B. Someone who just got fired is going nuts and a 911 call comes in but our 1 dispatcher is busy with everything else.

Having a centralized dispatch center is a great idea for the quick gathering or passing along of pertinent information regarding “incident” on campus. It alleviates the need for things like, “can you call parking, grounds, A/B and let them know….., or if parking or A/B sees something and the “incident” is then delayed by calling their dispatch who then in turn calls the UP dispatch” However, if this plan is to work efficiently and safely, you need at least one dispatcher per division in the comm center that is only equipped to handle a maximum of 2 dispatchers. The UP’s dispatch is not by in large busy by itself but during an “incident” working alone in that room can be overwhelming. This is our safety and the community’s safety. This is not a matter that any officer should take lightly. If our one dispatcher is distracted for even 5 seconds when an officer calls for backup or whatever and dispatch misses it because they are on the phone with an irate parking patron, parking patroller, or A/B person our safety is potentially in jeopardy. I am appalled that this plan was put into affect before the appropriate personnel were in place. At a minimum there should be at least 3 dispatchers working to handle this workload. All should be cross-trained on each other’s responsibilities. Then and only then should this plan have been put in place. I urge everyone to keep a log of events that happen to them in which this centralized dispatch theme results in a shortcoming to the officer’s safety, the community’s safety, or anything that they feel hindered our ability to carry out proper law enforcement. We all know what happens when dispatch concerns are brought forward. Have your examples ready folks. For this plan to be but into affect before the room is properly trained and staffed is NEGLIGENCE! on behalf of the University.

It's going to be a mess at best. Do we finally get a portion of the huge Parking Services revinue for handling any of this? Or is it a dry pipeline like the one from Iraq? There are some geniuses running these operations.

This is not just a traffic stop issue folks. It’s much more involved. You need backup. Someone is running from you. Someone just assaulted you. You see a crime in progress and you need to get information to dispatch. Dispatch misses a BOLO because they are too distracted dealing with the bovine fecal matter from parking and A/B. Someone who just got fired is going nuts and a 911 call comes in but our 1 dispatcher is busy with everything else.

Having a centralized dispatch center is a great idea for the quick gathering or passing along of pertinent information regarding “incident” on campus. It alleviates the need for things like, “can you call parking, grounds, A/B and let them know….., or if parking or A/B sees something and the “incident” is then delayed by calling their dispatch who then in turn calls the UP dispatch” However, if this plan is to work efficiently and safely, you need at least one dispatcher per division in the comm center that is only equipped to handle a maximum of 2 dispatchers. The UP’s dispatch is not by in large busy by itself but during an “incident” working alone in that room can be overwhelming. This is our safety and the community’s safety. This is not a matter that any officer should take lightly. If our one dispatcher is distracted for even 5 seconds when an officer calls for backup or whatever and dispatch misses it because they are on the phone with an irate parking patron, parking patroller, or A/B person our safety is potentially in jeopardy. I am appalled that this plan was put into affect before the appropriate personnel were in place. At a minimum there should be at least 3 dispatchers working to handle this workload. All should be cross-trained on each other’s responsibilities. Then and only then should this plan have been put in place. I urge everyone to keep a log of events that happen to them in which this centralized dispatch theme results in a shortcoming to the officer’s safety, the community’s safety, or anything that they feel hindered our ability to carry out proper law enforcement. We all know what happens when dispatch concerns are brought forward. Have your examples ready folks. For this plan to be but into affect before the room is properly trained and staffed is NEGLIGENCE! on behalf of the University.

This post is right on the money!!!! But heres the real issue, Its posted here, will it be discussed at the station. Can we all stand together on this ???

BENSON IS ONLY HERE TO BENEFIT THE UNIVERSITY NOT US !!!! THIS IS A MAJOR SAFETY ISSUE THAT MUST BE BROUGHT UP AND DISCUSSED.

It has been shown that 1 incident overwelms not only our Dispatch but the understaffed Patrol Units on the street as well. I can just imagine the phones ringing with staff/ students with irate parking compliants, the A/B people calling in thier typical BS, 911 ringing, non emergency calls, alarms and CARD ACCESS for A/B, etc.

An officers call for help may only be a quick key of his mic, something that could be missed with all these added radio channels.

THIS NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED before one of us gets hurt !!!!!!!!!

This is not just a traffic stop issue folks. It’s much more involved. You need backup. Someone is running from you. Someone just assaulted you. You see a crime in progress and you need to get information to dispatch. Dispatch misses a BOLO because they are too distracted dealing with the bovine fecal matter from parking and A/B. Someone who just got fired is going nuts and a 911 call comes in but our 1 dispatcher is busy with everything else.

Having a centralized dispatch center is a great idea for the quick gathering or passing along of pertinent information regarding “incident” on campus. It alleviates the need for things like, “can you call parking, grounds, A/B and let them know….., or if parking or A/B sees something and the “incident” is then delayed by calling their dispatch who then in turn calls the UP dispatch” However, if this plan is to work efficiently and safely, you need at least one dispatcher per division in the comm center that is only equipped to handle a maximum of 2 dispatchers. The UP’s dispatch is not by in large busy by itself but during an “incident” working alone in that room can be overwhelming. This is our safety and the community’s safety. This is not a matter that any officer should take lightly. If our one dispatcher is distracted for even 5 seconds when an officer calls for backup or whatever and dispatch misses it because they are on the phone with an irate parking patron, parking patroller, or A/B person our safety is potentially in jeopardy. I am appalled that this plan was put into affect before the appropriate personnel were in place. At a minimum there should be at least 3 dispatchers working to handle this workload. All should be cross-trained on each other’s responsibilities. Then and only then should this plan have been put in place. I urge everyone to keep a log of events that happen to them in which this centralized dispatch theme results in a shortcoming to the officer’s safety, the community’s safety, or anything that they feel hindered our ability to carry out proper law enforcement. We all know what happens when dispatch concerns are brought forward. Have your examples ready folks. For this plan to be but into affect before the room is properly trained and staffed is NEGLIGENCE! on behalf of the University.

This post is right on the money!!!! But heres the real issue, Its posted here, will it be discussed at the station. Can we all stand together on this ???

BENSON IS ONLY HERE TO BENEFIT THE UNIVERSITY NOT US !!!! THIS IS A MAJOR SAFETY ISSUE THAT MUST BE BROUGHT UP AND DISCUSSED.

It has been shown that 1 incident overwelms not only our Dispatch but the understaffed Patrol Units on the street as well. I can just imagine the phones ringing with staff/ students with irate parking compliants, the A/B people calling in thier typical BS, 911 ringing, non emergency calls, alarms and CARD ACCESS for A/B, etc.

An officers call for help may only be a quick key of his mic, something that could be missed with all these added radio channels.

THIS NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED before one of us gets hurt !!!!!!!!!

It was discussed through the proper chain and I'm certain more discussions will be held.

i stand at the back passenger corner of my vehicle when I write my citations. It is the safest way to do it. You are a sitting duck inside your vehicle if you are struck by a passing vehilce or the driver decides to harm you. Remember the number 1 cause of death for law enforcement officers in america is people running into them while on traffic stops.

i stand at the back passenger corner of my vehicle when I write my citations. It is the safest way to do it. You are a sitting duck inside your vehicle if you are struck by a passing vehilce or the driver decides to harm you. Remember the number 1 cause of death for law enforcement officers in america is people running into them while on traffic stops.

Thatz exactly the way it should be done. If you think you can get your gun out effectively while sitting in your car, you got another thing coming. The bad guy would be on top of you before you knew what hit you.

[quote="We are so Frilled":2a4lunkn]This is not just a traffic stop issue folks. It’s much more involved. You need backup. Someone is running from you. Someone just assaulted you. You see a crime in progress and you need to get information to dispatch. Dispatch misses a BOLO because they are too distracted dealing with the bovine fecal matter from parking and A/B. Someone who just got fired is going nuts and a 911 call comes in but our 1 dispatcher is busy with everything else.

Having a centralized dispatch center is a great idea for the quick gathering or passing along of pertinent information regarding “incident” on campus. It alleviates the need for things like, “can you call parking, grounds, A/B and let them know….., or if parking or A/B sees something and the “incident” is then delayed by calling their dispatch who then in turn calls the UP dispatch” However, if this plan is to work efficiently and safely, you need at least one dispatcher per division in the comm center that is only equipped to handle a maximum of 2 dispatchers. The UP’s dispatch is not by in large busy by itself but during an “incident” working alone in that room can be overwhelming. This is our safety and the community’s safety. This is not a matter that any officer should take lightly. If our one dispatcher is distracted for even 5 seconds when an officer calls for backup or whatever and dispatch misses it because they are on the phone with an irate parking patron, parking patroller, or A/B person our safety is potentially in jeopardy. I am appalled that this plan was put into affect before the appropriate personnel were in place. At a minimum there should be at least 3 dispatchers working to handle this workload. All should be cross-trained on each other’s responsibilities. Then and only then should this plan have been put in place. I urge everyone to keep a log of events that happen to them in which this centralized dispatch theme results in a shortcoming to the officer’s safety, the community’s safety, or anything that they feel hindered our ability to carry out proper law enforcement. We all know what happens when dispatch concerns are brought forward. Have your examples ready folks. For this plan to be but into affect before the room is properly trained and staffed is NEGLIGENCE! on behalf of the University.

This post is right on the money!!!! But heres the real issue, Its posted here, will it be discussed at the station. Can we all stand together on this ???

BENSON IS ONLY HERE TO BENEFIT THE UNIVERSITY NOT US !!!! THIS IS A MAJOR SAFETY ISSUE THAT MUST BE BROUGHT UP AND DISCUSSED.

It has been shown that 1 incident overwelms not only our Dispatch but the understaffed Patrol Units on the street as well. I can just imagine the phones ringing with staff/ students with irate parking compliants, the A/B people calling in thier typical BS, 911 ringing, non emergency calls, alarms and CARD ACCESS for A/B, etc.

An officers call for help may only be a quick key of his mic, something that could be missed with all these added radio channels.

THIS NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED before one of us gets hurt !!!!!!!!!

It was discussed through the proper chain and I'm certain more discussions will be held.[/quote:2a4lunkn]

not much thought put into it

I don't like this one bit. The worst part is nobody will stand up to anyone. Blind obedience is what Hitler's boys used as an excuse and now we are just as guilty here. Big Ben got his magic report from some clown that used to work for a LARGE metropolitan PD. Now he is forcing it on our Chief, and instead of listening to us, he is going ahead with a horrible plan. Taking a dangerous and crappy idea and forcing it on us will get someone hurt, or even possibly killed. Thanks for selling us out!!

I don't like this one bit. The worst part is nobody will stand up to anyone. Blind obedience is what Hitler's boys used as an excuse and now we are just as guilty here. Big Ben got his magic report from some clown that used to work for a LARGE metropolitan PD. Now he is forcing it on our Chief, and instead of listening to us, he is going ahead with a horrible plan. Taking a dangerous and crappy idea and forcing it on us will get someone hurt, or even possibly killed. Thanks for selling us out!!

We don't care about you..................is it clearer now........really........we could give 2 rusty pennies worth, about USF po' :roll:

I don't like this one bit. The worst part is nobody will stand up to anyone. Blind obedience is what Hitler's boys used as an excuse and now we are just as guilty here. Big Ben got his magic report from some clown that used to work for a LARGE metropolitan PD. Now he is forcing it on our Chief, and instead of listening to us, he is going ahead with a horrible plan. Taking a dangerous and crappy idea and forcing it on us will get someone hurt, or even possibly killed. Thanks for selling us out!!

We don't care about you..................is it clearer now........really........we could give 2 rusty pennies worth, about USF po' :roll:

Still waiting for the video slumlord

Spend more time doing traffic stops on campus and safety might not be as much of an issue.

Instead of "*****en" about what officers do, how about learning your job instead of whinning and running to the Lt's crying how overworked you are in your little room.

I have to agree, I haven't been here long, but there seems to be a big rift in the supervisors and what they expect from officers. Some supervisors seem to have a bit of sense about the job as what should be expected from a university officer and others don't . There seems to be no middle ground for officers here, its touch and go with each one, and what is expected of the officers.

Yes, there is a poor supervision there from the top down, thats why I got out of there. If you don't promoted there, (and you had to be one of the Chief's favorites from what I saw), there was no futrure in any pay raises as an officer at all. I now have a take home car, and at least a cost of living step raise each year.

I got the chance to explain to Benson myself the officer safety issues regarding one dispatcher having to listen to two or three different radio channels at once. He didn't seemed to concerned, so I guess it fell on deaf ears.

I CAN'T BELIEVE WE HAVE TO SIT AROUND AND WAIT FOR AN OFFICER TO GET HURT WHILE THEY DISCUSS THIS IN A COMMITTEE!

Make a detailed note and a memo to file stating exactly what was told to him and why ref officer safety. Be sure the Union Rep has a copy and someone else you trust. Works wonders when something happens that was avoidable !