NEW SERGEANTS

jealous much?

Seriously! And what have YOU done lately, "Concerned Citizen"? Fail the sergeants test?
Don't hate, CONGRATULATE!

Yeah, like anyone's gonna listen to you, hateful loser.
Why don't you become a real concerned citizen and worry about yourself and your own police work instead of envying others who succeed and deserve the promotion. Stop making excuses for why you haven't gone anywhere in life and maybe try to better yourself.

I can't say I blame him for questioning some of the promotions. I hope this teaches some people that how you were as a police officer will not be forgotten when you get promoted to Sgt. Go ahead and ask me to produce stats I will be more than happy to produce what you did....0!

If you guys haven't gotten it yet, there will be people that work for you because they respect you or they will just do only what you tell them to do because some ugly yellow stripes on your sleeve. You start making which type of supervisor you want people to view you as, not once you get promoted, but once you pin that silver badge on.

Don't call people jealous just because maybe in your heart you know that you have been a 0 and now you are trying to see how it is you can get people to forget...good luck...SUPERVISOR

Everyone that gets promoted has earned it, in my opinion. The rest of us are pleased. I have faith in these guys.

Don't let all of the "Distraction Technique" specialists around here skew your opinion of who's who. Does it make you a "Zero" because you don't make 50 DIP arrests a month. Or any of the multitude of other cheesy arrests out there? Does it make you a zero if you are not on a perpetual 14, 19, 38 etc., etc., etc., while the rest of the squad is 09 and handling all of the calls in the zone? Don't be fooled by the BS stats and take a look in the mirror superstar because you may just be another one of those specialists. You aren't fooling anyone.

Enough already, We all were hired as police ,so just go be the Police. Everyone has a different way of doing the job just as long as the job gets done. So go have a good time and be safe and make alot of money doing it in a Great place to be POLICE.

How qualified to you have to be to stay in the station all day, not listen to your radio and when you happen to hear it, just say "QSL. Hold for a 15."

What Sergeants do you see out on the street? They only come out for 12 and to run errons.

What Sergeants do you see out on the street? They only come out for 12 and to run errons.

Plenty.
oh, and the word is "errands"

name me one Sarge who you would consider a zero.

name me one Sarge who you would consider a zero.



This should get interesting.....

For every sergeant that is named, you need to name three (3) officers since there are about three times as many officers as there are sergeants. That you should be fair to all the sergeants that are going to be talked about. We are comparing work ethic and it alone. We don't want to hear specifics or why, just a general poll of personal opinion. And I will tell you what, so that the MODS don't poof this one too, no long drawn out stories as to why you think so. Names may be repeated.....

name me one Sarge who you would consider a zero.

Who is a hero?

This rhetoric going back and forth is indicative of the underlying issue, which is the quota system that city hall has shoved down our throats, hoping that the homeless issue was going to be addressed by making these frivols arrests, which by the way, our State Attorney’s and Judges quickly dismiss. Our police managers lack the co-jones to address the issue. Instead, the middle beach burglaries continue due to the lack of proactive patrolling because officers are too busy trying to generate statistics.

You lost all credibility!

You did not mention the Mod. Thats why it got modified.

what happened? who is the mod?

Give me a break, Sgt's all you did to become a Sgt or Lt. ect... is take a written test on a Saturday and score good enough. That my friend is a joke, you score great on a test , now your qualified to tell veteran officers how to do police work. By taking a test and passing it is not earning a rank. It should be how many arrests you made, street time, ect, things you earned not a written test only. When the crap hits the fan the real cops come out not test takers. Example Corp. Kellher, NPR , big fight in street he was not scrapping I can tell you that.

I am a 3rd herder.
I am a worker and always will be, hopefully :)
I am not a Sergeant yet because I choose not to be.
The sysytem of promoting is faulty but that is the system in place.

I have almost zero confidence in MOST brass here and have no hesitations in advising them of it when the opportunity arrises.

If any brass or Sgt. would like to meet and discuss this topic in rollcall room instead of TRYING to justify a promotional test or position, who a worker is and who isn't, NAME IT!!!

i am not a tough guy, 100% all the time worker, or bad ass, but have been doing this job over 12 years and have had the opportunity to start from another dept. to know TALKERS from stand up COPS.

ANYTIME AFTER 3RD HERD ROLLCALL....please let's all get this out in the open instead of hiding behind a computer.

Wow...does your mommy know that you are playing with her computer? Anyway genius, you have the wrong idea of what a Sergeant's job is. By your definition, the Sergeant is supposed to tell people how to do police work....you are absolutely wrong! A Sgt. is supposed to make it easier for an officer to do his (or her) job by making sure that each officer has the resources they need to accomplish a given task or mission. That could be in the form of making sure that the hardest workers in the squad aren't busting their arses while others hide under trees. If you are one of the hiders that hates being called out for being a lazy sack of crap while the workers handle the zone...oh well! If you had ANY idea how many complaints are squashed on a daily basis by these "test takers" just so you feel better about the job you are trying to do, you might change your view a bit. Am I saying that every Sgt. does the right thing? NO! But for every Sgt. that could do a better job, I am sure we can point out 4 or 5 officers.

As far as how you think promotions should be handled, you think that making a bunch of arrests should qualify a person for Sgt. Are you going to base this on a point system for a given type of arrest? How about they person who is humping the calls and dealing with real victims while you are saving the world with DIPs and DisCons? You think that having time on the dept should automatically put you in the running for Sgt?! Well some of those senior people are why the zones and squads got switched around...for doing NOTHING!

My final thought on this whole New Sgt bashing (which I guess we are going to have to read after every list comes out) is this: Give these guys a chance. Not all great cops make good supervisors, and not all crappy cops make bad supervisors. Other than that, take the test and be the the type of supervisor that you have always thought should be the standard, or quit your *****in and go 09.

I agree with the 3rd herder! Same goes for mids! My reply was for the Wet Dreamer!

if you want to change something, take the test, be a sgt, then make a change. as the old adage goes, stop *****ing and start a revolution. all of you love to criticize, but make no effort to make it better. be happy for those next in line for sgt, and give them a chance. they may surprise you and maybe inspire you to do the same. if you're jealous of their success, get off your a$$ and make a change to better yourself. til then. shoosh.

if we had better quality supervisors, we would have better morale, and then we would have less complaints..... Please don't try to tell me that the job of listening to complaints all day is what makes one a good sgt. A good sgt., is the one who tells the BS complainants to go DUCK OFF, and if that's not possible at least does everything posible to prevent a BS complaint from being written.......oh yeah, and a good sgt. should know when someone comes in and makes a complaint if it something that that particular officer would actually do, or if it is such a BS omplaint that there is no waythat ofc would do it!!!!!

And a good sgt. should stick up for the hard workers and "punish" the slackers, by giving them the crappy details, or at least making it known tat they knwo who the good workers are and who the sluffers are!

if you want to change something, take the test, be a sgt, then make a change. as the old adage goes, stop *****ing and start a revolution. all of you love to criticize, but make no effort to make it better. be happy for those next in line for sgt, and give them a chance. they may surprise you and maybe inspire you to do the same. if you're jealous of their success, get off your a$$ and make a change to better yourself. til then. shoosh.
My brother or sister. You are an idiot if you think becoming a Sergeant will will have any bearing on change of the Department. Have you talked to any of the Sergeants that have promoted within the last 5-10 years? I am happy for the next Sergeant that promotes, but I am no fool to think becoming a Sergeant will change anything! There is power in numbers and there are a HANDFUL of Officers and fewer Sergeants that speak their minds.
JEALOUSY?! Come on! You must have something else better than that save all comeback. Have you seriously crunched the numbers to see what the percentage will be when retirement comes around? Is it an increase? Sure. Worth it? Lies in the eyes of the beholder. With all the slack-ass OT overywhere or even regular salary, if one cannot invest thier money wisely, shame on them.

So who is an example of what a Sergeant should look like?

One that is on the street, listens to his radio, 07's BS calls and monitors his zone so thet there is an even workload would be great.

So who is an example of what a Sergeant should look like?
LISTEN/MONITOR RADIO/LAPTOP *see that your squad gets even as can be calls, the known sluffer is called out and dealt with *the everyday usual CIVIL MATTER calls either 07 or you as a supervisor call back complainant and advise them *deal with the usual Officers that has to be 3 toned numerous times on a daily basis because it is to the point where no one becomes alert to the 3 tone anymore *when calls are holding and you constantly have to ask the rundown on your zone Officers, maybe check your frekin cad on computer to see the sluffers and the workers actions!

SGTS ON ROAD/SCENE *if a Sgt would like to mingle with the troops on the road, that's great. But know your purpose. Main purpose in my opinion is SUPPORT. If you do stop by a 17/19/38/34 whatever it may be, see what the Officers may need to assist the signal on a supervisor's level *on a major scene where detectives may be brought in, crime scene, and the usual on looker upper brass, be the liaison to your main Officers if they are involved.

YOUR ROLE *ok, you passed a test. and now you were next on list to get your stripes. How about trying to be a leader as well as a supervisor? Especially for the younger Officers. Act accordingly, above and beyond Officer status. Look and express yourself professionally, lead by example! A majority of what the troops here is promote for the percent salary increase/pension, not anything of being a good supervisor, leader, or bettering the good of the order. So if you directly express you don't give a shit, why should we? Frekin fake it if that what it takes!

LISTEN/MONITOR RADIO/LAPTOP *see that your squad gets even as can be calls, the known sluffer is called out and dealt with *the everyday usual CIVIL MATTER calls either 07 or you as a supervisor call back complainant and advise them *deal with the usual Officers that has to be 3 toned numerous times on a daily basis because it is to the point where no one becomes alert to the 3 tone anymore *when calls are holding and you constantly have to ask the rundown on your zone Officers, maybe check your frekin cad on computer to see the sluffers and the workers actions!

SGTS ON ROAD/SCENE *if a Sgt would like to mingle with the troops on the road, that's great. But know your purpose. Main purpose in my opinion is SUPPORT. If you do stop by a 17/19/38/34 whatever it may be, see what the Officers may need to assist the signal on a supervisor's level *on a major scene where detectives may be brought in, crime scene, and the usual on looker upper brass, be the liaison to your main Officers if they are involved.

YOUR ROLE *ok, you passed a test. and now you were next on list to get your stripes. How about trying to be a leader as well as a supervisor? Especially for the younger Officers. Act accordingly, above and beyond Officer status. Look and express yourself professionally, lead by example! A majority of what the troops here is promote for the percent salary increase/pension, not anything of being a good supervisor, leader, or bettering the good of the order. So if you directly express you don't give a shizzat, why should we? Frekin fake it if that what it takes!

Right on!

LOL...I only know of 2...maybe 3 Sgts that do any of this.

WHO? NO NAMES

Posted: 04/01/08 12:01:12 Post subject: i need to point out basics????

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Anonymous wrote:
So who is an example of what a Sergeant should look like?

LISTEN/MONITOR RADIO/LAPTOP *see that your squad gets even as can be calls, the known sluffer is called out and dealt with *the everyday usual CIVIL MATTER calls either 07 or you as a supervisor call back complainant and advise them *deal with the usual Officers that has to be 3 toned numerous times on a daily basis because it is to the point where no one becomes alert to the 3 tone anymore *when calls are holding and you constantly have to ask the rundown on your zone Officers, maybe check your frekin cad on computer to see the sluffers and the workers actions!

SGTS ON ROAD/SCENE *if a Sgt would like to mingle with the troops on the road, that's great. But know your purpose. Main purpose in my opinion is SUPPORT. If you do stop by a 17/19/38/34 whatever it may be, see what the Officers may need to assist the signal on a supervisor's level *on a major scene where detectives may be brought in, crime scene, and the usual on looker upper brass, be the liaison to your main Officers if they are involved.

YOUR ROLE *ok, you passed a test. and now you were next on list to get your stripes. How about trying to be a leader as well as a supervisor? Especially for the younger Officers. Act accordingly, above and beyond Officer status. Look and express yourself professionally, lead by example! A majority of what the troops here is promote for the percent salary increase/pension, not anything of being a good supervisor, leader, or bettering the good of the order. So if you directly express you don't give a shizzat, why should we? Frekin fake it if that what it takes!

Hey so I heard you were acting last night and you looked like you had seen a freight train!!!!! Lol. What's the matter its not as easy as all the shit you talked?????

Hey that was a great encore you put on the other night. I can't believe that the same week they make you an A/ trying to prepare you to be a sergeant you go ahead and pull that stunt off! I can't believe that you are going to make it. Hey does your desk fit another "0" why don't you guys shack up that way we know what desk to stay away from when we go to the sergeants office. Because we know we aren't going to get any compitent help from that area!!!!!!

what was the signal?

OH PLEASE!!!! LIKE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO DOESNT ANSWER THE RADIO! BESIDES SOMETIMES NOT ANSWERING IS BETTER THAN WHAT IS SAID WHEN THEY DO!

Well what I heard was that the person who came on and finally qru'd him was the master. Who alledgedly stated "I just got off the landline with him, and both his radio and cell phone batteries were dead." If that was the case, what landline did you call him at? Pathetic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I also heard that another soon to be Sgt. was asked to qsy and he stated "I am going to go check the place where he rests!" Maybe I can find him there. ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

y'all are pathetic. it's like a sewing circle in here, don't you have any other things to talk about besides gossip? how old are you people?

Yeah, why don't you tell those ofc's to their face. Whats wrong? You scared? Or are you just a Chicken Shit? Come on, now's your chance, their not Sgts. yet.

Come one, come all to the promotional ceremony on Friday.

Lets see these useless units on midnight shift get promoted
to their stripes..Birds of a feather, do flock together..
Congrats, good luck and stay off my shift... :arrow:

it was fantastic. glad to see a bunch of swell guys get promoted. they studied hard, did well, and they got their just desserts. well deserved promotions.

Feds..? QSK wit it...haven't heard this one yet.

you're just jealous you didnt get invited, fed ex! lol

where was the after party? your house?

this is all nonsense

I here the new bike sgt is going around and trying to do everything by the book,

well i happen to think he's doing well. he's a fast learner and is taking care of business.

From what I hear he has always been a street cop thats why he took the bike position

LMAO!!! Street Cop?! Surely you jest! More like under the tree cop! I am not saying he won't be a good supervisor, but just because he got promoted doesn't mean that we forget how he really was! President Bush was a C and D student. . .okay...bad anology...but you know what I mean.

Street COP? More like a ROAD cop. The guy was a zero as a cop let's see how he is as a Sgt. And there were not that many options for him to choose from. By the way when was the last time you saw him on a bike??????

lil lost? on days, noons, or 4th shift?

4th...supposed to be on a bike...