Sun Sentinel Article October 14, 2008

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

SO this is what we were all supposed to be waiting breathlessly for?!?!?!?! This article is typical of the drivel this woman always writes. She's once again spouting off at the mouth without bothering to verify any of her facts. No wonder they let her cover Wilton Manors. The only place with less going on would be Sea Ranch Lakes. Sorry, DR, your big, bad, explosive expose is a bust. GET A LIFE.

Why would WM paint the rainbow symbol on their vehicles? Why is there a need for an agency to take a position on human sexuality? Why not chrome girlie mudflaps? Why imply support for ANY sexual attitude. Why not a swastika, a cross, a star of david, or a witch? Celebrating a social movement based on rubbing body parts against like minded citizens is buffoonery.

SO this is what we were all supposed to be waiting breathlessly for?!?!?!?! This article is typical of the drivel this woman always writes. She's once again spouting off at the mouth without bothering to verify any of her facts. No wonder they let her cover Wilton Manors. The only place with less going on would be Sea Ranch Lakes. Sorry, DR, your big, bad, explosive expose is a bust. GET A LIFE.

This is only the beginning. Just a little poke at the buffoons who run the city. Told you much more will come out when the time and place are right. Elizabeth actually had the facts right. This story will be published nationwide before the clock strikes 12. :P

What now the Sun Sentinel picks and choses what article that people can comment on. I am so pissed at this MAYOR, CITY MANAGER and CITY COMMISIONERS for what they have done to this police department which reflects directly on it's relationship with our community. People need to speak their minds at commission meetings and vent their frustrations on how this city administration has ruined one of the finest police departments in Broward.

[quote="Bored By U Losers":9vf01ujq]SO this is what we were all supposed to be waiting breathlessly for?!?!?!?! This article is typical of the drivel this woman always writes. She's once again spouting off at the mouth without bothering to verify any of her facts. No wonder they let her cover Wilton Manors. The only place with less going on would be Sea Ranch Lakes. Sorry, DR, your big, bad, explosive expose is a bust. GET A LIFE.

This is only the beginning. Just a little poke at the buffoons who run the city. Told you much more will come out when the time and place are right. Elizabeth actually had the facts right. This story will be published nationwide before the clock strikes 12. :P[/quote:9vf01ujq]

Do you think the buffons know how to spell buffoon?

"Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

THANKS ALOT ELIZABETH.
You asked some real hard-hitting questions here didn't you. Look at the chief's and mayor's quotes. No follow up questions like
1. To the mayor and chief: What would your answer be to some of the quetsions posted on LEO AFFAIRS?
2. To the chief: Why would you need to know the posters identity if it wasn't to retaliate against them?
3. To the mayor: Don't some of these postings concern you that maybe there is a REAL problem here?

You threw them some meatball questions and wrote another Wilton Manors FLUFF piece. You wouldn't want to pin the chief down would you or maybe get him stumbling on his answers. No wonder you couldn't get ANY COPS to comment for your little article.

Don't you think we are afraid you will reveal us to the chief or the mayor? Please.... Where is your editor? Where is the Miami Herald?
Citizens HELP US!!!!!!!!

[quote="Bored By U Losers":ajj46021]SO this is what we were all supposed to be waiting breathlessly for?!?!?!?! This article is typical of the drivel this woman always writes. She's once again spouting off at the mouth without bothering to verify any of her facts. No wonder they let her cover Wilton Manors. The only place with less going on would be Sea Ranch Lakes. Sorry, DR, your big, bad, explosive expose is a bust. GET A LIFE.

This is only the beginning. Just a little poke at the buffoons who run the city. Told you much more will come out when the time and place are right. Elizabeth actually had the facts right. This story will be published nationwide before the clock strikes 12. :P[/quote:ajj46021]

"Published Nationwide" Yeah right! And what difference would it make to you? I doubt Highlights for Children will be carrying it, so none of your friends will be reading it. And beyond that little group, who are only interested because of your problems, really, NO ONE cares what goes on in WM. As I said before, why don't you GET A LIFE?!?Q You aren't part of this community in any way anymore, so butt out.

the sentinel is a second rate paper and everyone knows it

these forums are far from good material and are often populated by spineless people who will not stand up and be counted

if you do not like something, change it over time

airing your dirty laundry on a public chat board is pathetic

I know there a few people that feel the need to come on here and say all kinds of things about other people. I have bad news for you. I know of several Wilton Manors residents that are not city employees and are aware of this site. Whatever you may have been trying to accomplish, in some warped way, it is not going to happen. All of the garbage that is being said about others has turned these residents away from whatever you were trying to accomplish. You have turned these people against you rather than gaining their support. These people have their beliefs about who is posting all of this nonsense. I do not think they are far off the mark. There are a few malcontents that have many, many personalities on the site. They are some former employees as well as some current employees. The names may change by the minute, but the garbage remains the same. It has grown really stale. It is time to step back into reality, get on with your life, and do something productive instead of all of this garbage.

By the way, I would not use the Sun Sentinal to line the bottom of a bird cage, put into a cat's litter box, or anything else. I would be afraid that some of the garbage in that newspaper would adversly affect the poor animal. I would not want to be charged with animal cruelity.

[quote="The Gatekeeper":3alzko2e][quote="Bored By U Losers":3alzko2e]SO this is what we were all supposed to be waiting breathlessly for?!?!?!?! This article is typical of the drivel this woman always writes. She's once again spouting off at the mouth without bothering to verify any of her facts. No wonder they let her cover Wilton Manors. The only place with less going on would be Sea Ranch Lakes. Sorry, DR, your big, bad, explosive expose is a bust. GET A LIFE.

This is only the beginning. Just a little poke at the buffoons who run the city. Told you much more will come out when the time and place are right. Elizabeth actually had the facts right. This story will be published nationwide before the clock strikes 12. :P[/quote:3alzko2e]

"Published Nationwide" Yeah right! And what difference would it make to you? I doubt Highlights for Children will be carrying it, so none of your friends will be reading it. And beyond that little group, who are only interested because of your problems, really, NO ONE cares what goes on in WM. As I said before, why don't you GET A LIFE?!?Q You aren't part of this community in any way anymore, so butt out.[/quote:3alzko2e]\
Oh it will be published around the nation. This will be part of a lawsuit.It has nothing to do with children but if you want it to be it will. I AM part of this community so I have NO PROBLEMS but this CITY has I have Big problems with Joe Angelo and Scotty Boy Newton so lets put all the cards onb the table. If You have the balls....You guys and I use that term loosley have big, big problems, check the archived website, loved the sun sentinel article but it was only a poke.

This article was only the beginning. EC , GG & KJ , RP, DS have big problems. It will get wicked around halloween. Love it .The BISHOP>

[quote="Veteran Cop"]I know there a few people that feel the need to come on here and say all kinds of things about other people. I have bad news for you. I know of several Wilton Manors residents that are not city employees and are aware of this site. Whatever you may have been trying to accomplish, in some warped way, it is not going to happen. All of the garbage that is being said about others has turned these residents away from whatever you were trying to accomplish. You have turned these people against you rather than gaining their support. These people have their beliefs about who is posting all of this nonsense. I do not think they are far off the mark. There are a few malcontents that have many, many personalities on the site. They are some former employees as well as some current employees. The names may change by the minute, but the garbage remains the same. It has grown really stale. It is time to step back into reality, get on with your life, and do something productive instead of all of this garbage.

Do not be so stupid as to trash the sun-sentinel. RICK PEREZ IS A JOKE, and should be fired on 10/15/07/.

[quote="Bored By U Losers":1dd5jv5u][quote="The Gatekeeper":1dd5jv5u][quote="Bored By U Losers":1dd5jv5u]SO this is what we were all supposed to be waiting breathlessly for?!?!?!?! This article is typical of the drivel this woman always writes. She's once again spouting off at the mouth without bothering to verify any of her facts. No wonder they let her cover Wilton Manors. The only place with less going on would be Sea Ranch Lakes. Sorry, DR, your big, bad, explosive expose is a bust. GET A LIFE.

This is only the beginning. Just a little poke at the buffoons who run the city. Told you much more will come out when the time and place are right. Elizabeth actually had the facts right. This story will be published nationwide before the clock strikes 12. :P[/quote:1dd5jv5u]

"Published Nationwide" Yeah right! And what difference would it make to you? I doubt Highlights for Children will be carrying it, so none of your friends will be reading it. And beyond that little group, who are only interested because of your problems, really, NO ONE cares what goes on in WM. As I said before, why don't you GET A LIFE?!?Q You aren't part of this community in any way anymore, so butt out.[/quote:1dd5jv5u]\
Oh it will be published around the nation. This will be part of a lawsuit.It has nothing to do with children but if you want it to be it will. I AM part of this community so I have NO PROBLEMS but this CITY has I have Big problems with Joe Angelo and Scotty Boy Newton so lets put all the cards onb the table. If You have the balls....You guys and I use that term loosley have big, big problems, check the archived website, loved the sun sentinel article but it was only a poke.[/quote:1dd5jv5u]
Sent via E Mail to a national mag as it should be. PEREZ IS TOAST as he should be. He is nothing more than a pimple on real cops butt but he cannot match up to the past .

SO where is all the other national press??? 12 has come and gone, Just like you DR...SO go bother BSO NOW and leave WM alone...Dont you think everyone has figured out that you complain about everything and everyone....the citizens of WM are happy with our police Dept and city goverment.

SO where is all the other national press??? 12 has come and gone, Just like you DR...SO go bother BSO NOW and leave WM alone...Dont you think everyone has figured out that you complain about everything and everyone....the citizens of WM are happy with our police Dept and city goverment.

It was sent to a national magazine which will be doing a follow up. WMPD is going to look bad, really bad. As a resident and CITY EMPLOYEE, I am very UNHAPPY with the city goverment and police department, so how can you speak for every resident.Mayor Newton has to be the most clueless politician in Broward County. The issues are FAR removed from the PBA contract. The issues are Chief Perez and the Mayor calling the shots at the WMPD. I mean lets face it, Newton is nothing more than a person who fixes seats and headliners in cars. He thinks he can run a Police Department with a puppet on a string police chief and administration. Thats why over 25 people have left since Perez came in. Mr and Mrs Taxpayer think of what this has cost you as their is no retention done by the PD or HR ( whow that is a whole other story) in this city. And it gets worse each and every day that the both of them remain in office with the other puppet city manager, Joseph Gallegos. You all need to start asking some serious questions about how goverment is run in this city, real soon. Remeber elections are next year so go out and get some good candidates to run, not some retreads like Ellich or Boyko.

As a person who worked with Rick Perez for over 14 years at Fort Lauderdale Police Department I cannot tell you what joy the article in the Sun Sentinel gave to me and others he screwed over. He is nothing more than a rogue cop who enjoyed stepping on every person he could. Cared nothing about his co-workers just how fast he could put a knife in our backs.Dig into his personnel file and IA file and see what pops up. We laughed when he got hired by Wilton Manors as CHIEF. He had to use the race card to get promoted in Ft. Lauderdale, not once but twice if memorey serves me correct. Doesn't your city do a background check or interview his co-workers? The man was a failure at FLPD that they put him in charge of the fleet were he could do a little damage to the organization as possible. Man you really got what you paid for, bargain basement leadership.

Time for BSO to police Wilton Manors?
Vehicle search raises serious Fourth Amendment concerns

By PHIL LAPADULA
Friday, February 02, 2007


About a year and a half ago when former Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Wierzbicki announced his retirement, some members of the gay community rushed to the defense of the beleaguered Manors police department, believing that a small local police force would be more sensitive to the concerns of gay residents than the behemoth known as the Broward Sheriff’s Office. But after recent events came to light, many people are now reassessing that position.

On Nov. 29, a Wilton Manors police officer stopped John Pfaff, a local gay resident, allegedly because a tag light was out on his Chevy pickup truck. During the stop, Officer Gary Blocker asked Pfaff for permission to search his person and his vehicle. Pfaff said he consented to the search because he had nothing to hide and felt intimidated by a man with a badge and a gun. As he began the search, Blocker asked Pfaff if he would “find anything strange like a **** ring, lube or condoms,” according to Pfaff’s complaint.

Pfaff later filed a complaint against Blocker. In his complaint, Pfaff states that when he got home, he checked his lights and discovered that all of them, including the tag lights, were working. He now wonders why he was stopped in the first place and why Blocker asked to search his vehicle. He thinks he may have been pulled over because of gay bumper stickers on his truck. But Officer Pfaff has denied that he pulled over Pfaff because he is gay, according to an internal investigation of Pfaff’s complaint by the Wilton Manors Police Department.

I gave Officer Blocker a chance to explain why he searched Pfaff’s truck, but he did not return my phone calls.

The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution states: “the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause…”

While Officer Blocker apparently did not technically violate the Fourth Amendment because he asked permission to search Mr. Pfaff’s truck, it seems obvious that he has shown disrespect for the Fourth Amendment’s intent. The amendment was clearly intended to prohibit searches in which there is no probable cause to suspect a crime has been committed.

The internal “investigation” of Mr. Pfaff’s complaint by the Wilton Manors Police Department did not even address the issue of probable cause. It gave no reason for the search of Mr. Pfaff’s truck and his person. In fact, based on the report, Officer Blocker did not identify anything about Mr. Pfaff or his truck that would lead him to suspect that illegal drugs were present.

Furthermore, the report on Mr. Pfaff’s complaint contains the ridiculous assertion that “it has become increasingly usual for homosexual male subjects in Wilton Manors to advise they have a ‘**** right’ either in their pocket or on their penis at the time of the search.”

First of all, I can’t imagine that there are gay guys out there riding around town wearing **** rings. Secondly, I can’t imagine a police search stemming from a traffic stop that would venture into the area of a ringed penis.

We are told that the searches of Mr. Pfaff and his vehicle were permissible simply because Officer Blocker asked permission and Mr. Pfaff consented to the searches. Who wouldn’t consent when confronted by a man with a badge and a gun? Who would not be intimidated by such a request?

It appears that this was nothing more than a random search. The people of this community, gay and heterosexual, at least have the right to know under what circumstances they can expect to be subjected to a humiliating search when they are out going about their business in a law-abiding manner. It’s bad enough dealing with the mindless car culture down here, being chained to our cars and having no choice but to drive everywhere, without thinking that we could be stopped and searched for no apparent reason every time we venture out the door.


I would like to point out that the Express did not go out on a muckraking mission trying to dig up dirt on the Wilton Manors Police Department. Mr. Pfaff came to us and asked us to tell his story, feeling that he had been treated in a humiliating manner. Since we first reported on his story, three other people have come forward with similar stories. We reported on one of the incidents. The other two have asked to keep their names out of print for now. We have also received several letters to the editor denouncing the search.

Fortunately, Mr. Pfaff was not arrested during this incident, nor was he even cited. In fact, Mr. Pfaff stated that Officer Blocker was polite and generally conducted himself in a professional manner. It’s apparent that Officer Blocker believes such searches are needed to stem the drug-abuse problem in South Florida.

I disagree. Anyone who reads my writing in the Express has probably surmised that I am very much against illegal drugs. In fact, I do not support legalization of the various poisons that the drug dealers are peddling out there (a subject for a future editorial). But I do not support trampling on the Bill of Rights either. I think more and better drug education and access to treatment are the answers.

This controversy is swirling at a time when violent street crime is on the rise both in South Florida and nationwide. Don’t the police have better things to do than conduct searches of law-abiding motorists? As reported in this week’s Express, the Fort Lauderdale Police Department announced a crime-prevention seminar at the gay community center in response to concerns about violent street crime voiced by gay residents.

By the way, the Fort Lauderdale Police Department has a gay community liaison, Det. Brice Brittenum, who also happens to be gay. The Broward Sheriff’s Office has an openly lesbian community liaison, Adrian Reesey, whose job involves serving as a sounding board for the gay community and various other ethnic and neighborhood groups. Both BSO and the Fort Lauderdale Police Department have independent review boards to investigate complaints against police officers.

So why is it that the new “gay paradise,” Wilton Manors, currently with openly gay city commissioners and two past gay mayors, has no official gay liaison officer and no independent civilian complaint review board?

The Pfaff incident takes place at a time when former Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Wierzbicki is suing the city in a dispute over his pension. By almost all accounts, Chief Richard Wierzbicki was an excellent public servant who understood and respected the diversity of the community he served. He reached out to the gay community, even dropping by the Express office on more than one occasion. But since his departure, things appear to be going south fast.

In fact, Wierzbicki’s lawsuit comes at a time when the Wilton Manors Police Department is under increased pressure to justify its existence in a city with soaring tax rates. At a recent city commission meeting, former Mayor Sandra Steen urged the city to cut costs and consider eliminating the police department and bringing in BSO. Maybe it is time for the increased professionalism and resources of BSO in Wilton Manors.

Time for BSO to police Wilton Manors?
Vehicle search raises serious Fourth Amendment concerns

By PHIL LAPADULA
Friday, February 02, 2007


About a year and a half ago when former Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Wierzbicki announced his retirement, some members of the gay community rushed to the defense of the beleaguered Manors police department, believing that a small local police force would be more sensitive to the concerns of gay residents than the behemoth known as the Broward Sheriff’s Office. But after recent events came to light, many people are now reassessing that position.

On Nov. 29, a Wilton Manors police officer stopped John Pfaff, a local gay resident, allegedly because a tag light was out on his Chevy pickup truck. During the stop, Officer Gary Blocker asked Pfaff for permission to search his person and his vehicle. Pfaff said he consented to the search because he had nothing to hide and felt intimidated by a man with a badge and a gun. As he began the search, Blocker asked Pfaff if he would “find anything strange like a **** ring, lube or condoms,” according to Pfaff’s complaint.

Pfaff later filed a complaint against Blocker. In his complaint, Pfaff states that when he got home, he checked his lights and discovered that all of them, including the tag lights, were working. He now wonders why he was stopped in the first place and why Blocker asked to search his vehicle. He thinks he may have been pulled over because of gay bumper stickers on his truck. But Officer Pfaff has denied that he pulled over Pfaff because he is gay, according to an internal investigation of Pfaff’s complaint by the Wilton Manors Police Department.

I gave Officer Blocker a chance to explain why he searched Pfaff’s truck, but he did not return my phone calls.

The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution states: “the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause…”

While Officer Blocker apparently did not technically violate the Fourth Amendment because he asked permission to search Mr. Pfaff’s truck, it seems obvious that he has shown disrespect for the Fourth Amendment’s intent. The amendment was clearly intended to prohibit searches in which there is no probable cause to suspect a crime has been committed.

The internal “investigation” of Mr. Pfaff’s complaint by the Wilton Manors Police Department did not even address the issue of probable cause. It gave no reason for the search of Mr. Pfaff’s truck and his person. In fact, based on the report, Officer Blocker did not identify anything about Mr. Pfaff or his truck that would lead him to suspect that illegal drugs were present.

Furthermore, the report on Mr. Pfaff’s complaint contains the ridiculous assertion that “it has become increasingly usual for homosexual male subjects in Wilton Manors to advise they have a ‘**** right’ either in their pocket or on their penis at the time of the search.”

First of all, I can’t imagine that there are gay guys out there riding around town wearing **** rings. Secondly, I can’t imagine a police search stemming from a traffic stop that would venture into the area of a ringed penis.

We are told that the searches of Mr. Pfaff and his vehicle were permissible simply because Officer Blocker asked permission and Mr. Pfaff consented to the searches. Who wouldn’t consent when confronted by a man with a badge and a gun? Who would not be intimidated by such a request?

It appears that this was nothing more than a random search. The people of this community, gay and heterosexual, at least have the right to know under what circumstances they can expect to be subjected to a humiliating search when they are out going about their business in a law-abiding manner. It’s bad enough dealing with the mindless car culture down here, being chained to our cars and having no choice but to drive everywhere, without thinking that we could be stopped and searched for no apparent reason every time we venture out the door.


I would like to point out that the Express did not go out on a muckraking mission trying to dig up dirt on the Wilton Manors Police Department. Mr. Pfaff came to us and asked us to tell his story, feeling that he had been treated in a humiliating manner. Since we first reported on his story, three other people have come forward with similar stories. We reported on one of the incidents. The other two have asked to keep their names out of print for now. We have also received several letters to the editor denouncing the search.

Fortunately, Mr. Pfaff was not arrested during this incident, nor was he even cited. In fact, Mr. Pfaff stated that Officer Blocker was polite and generally conducted himself in a professional manner. It’s apparent that Officer Blocker believes such searches are needed to stem the drug-abuse problem in South Florida.

I disagree. Anyone who reads my writing in the Express has probably surmised that I am very much against illegal drugs. In fact, I do not support legalization of the various poisons that the drug dealers are peddling out there (a subject for a future editorial). But I do not support trampling on the Bill of Rights either. I think more and better drug education and access to treatment are the answers.

This controversy is swirling at a time when violent street crime is on the rise both in South Florida and nationwide. Don’t the police have better things to do than conduct searches of law-abiding motorists? As reported in this week’s Express, the Fort Lauderdale Police Department announced a crime-prevention seminar at the gay community center in response to concerns about violent street crime voiced by gay residents.

By the way, the Fort Lauderdale Police Department has a gay community liaison, Det. Brice Brittenum, who also happens to be gay. The Broward Sheriff’s Office has an openly lesbian community liaison, Adrian Reesey, whose job involves serving as a sounding board for the gay community and various other ethnic and neighborhood groups. Both BSO and the Fort Lauderdale Police Department have independent review boards to investigate complaints against police officers.

So why is it that the new “gay paradise,” Wilton Manors, currently with openly gay city commissioners and two past gay mayors, has no official gay liaison officer and no independent civilian complaint review board?

The Pfaff incident takes place at a time when former Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Wierzbicki is suing the city in a dispute over his pension. By almost all accounts, Chief Richard Wierzbicki was an excellent public servant who understood and respected the diversity of the community he served. He reached out to the gay community, even dropping by the Express office on more than one occasion. But since his departure, things appear to be going south fast.

In fact, Wierzbicki’s lawsuit comes at a time when the Wilton Manors Police Department is under increased pressure to justify its existence in a city with soaring tax rates. At a recent city commission meeting, former Mayor Sandra Steen urged the city to cut costs and consider eliminating the police department and bringing in BSO. Maybe it is time for the increased professionalism and resources of BSO in Wilton Manors.

As a " straight" taxpayer with a family in this city who lives on NW 5 ave and knows Officer Blocker I just cannot understand what has happend to this police department. I moved here over 9 years ago and thought this was a great city to live in. Coming to live and socialize in a diverse city was a dream of my wife Kathy's and our families. What has happend. This WAMH is nothing more than a political organization trying to further a few persons political goals. I thought they were organized to help secure our neighborhood. Their have been so many break in's around us we are thinking of moving out of Wilton Manors. Every time I try to call to talk to a detective or supervisor ( they told me he was out 3 months on a training school) they are out. My wife and I wonder what "out "is. We always see 2-3 cars at dunkin donuts or the 7/11 is that what "out "is. In reviewing this site since the article in Sunday's Sun Sentinel, is "out "for the chief eating a 2 hour lunch at J. Alexanders each day. How is that helping my property values with our esculating crime stats.With the lower tax revenues, management needs to be held more accountable to justify their positions & salary.Shame on you police chief and city management.

As a person who worked with Rick Perez for over 14 years at Fort Lauderdale Police Department I cannot tell you what joy the article in the Sun Sentinel gave to me and others he screwed over. He is nothing more than a rogue cop who enjoyed stepping on every person he could. Cared nothing about his co-workers just how fast he could put a knife in our backs.Dig into his personnel file and IA file and see what pops up. We laughed when he got hired by Wilton Manors as CHIEF. He had to use the race card to get promoted in Ft. Lauderdale, not once but twice if memorey serves me correct. Doesn't your city do a background check or interview his co-workers? The man was a failure at FLPD that they put him in charge of the fleet were he could do a little damage to the organization as possible. Man you really got what you paid for, bargain basement leadership.

I cannot agree with this writer more. He was a cancer at FLPD and your council should be fired for incompetence that they brought him in to direct ( destroy) your police agency. Man, I feel sorry for the people I know at Wilton Manors because they are good people, but Perez could care less. Think about going bigger my friends because that is your only hope come the vote in January.

[quote="Remember?":22scoptz]Time for BSO to police Wilton Manors?
Vehicle search raises serious Fourth Amendment concerns

By PHIL LAPADULA
Friday, February 02, 2007


About a year and a half ago when former Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Wierzbicki announced his retirement, some members of the gay community rushed to the defense of the beleaguered Manors police department, believing that a small local police force would be more sensitive to the concerns of gay residents than the behemoth known as the Broward Sheriff’s Office. But after recent events came to light, many people are now reassessing that position.

On Nov. 29, a Wilton Manors police officer stopped John Pfaff, a local gay resident, allegedly because a tag light was out on his Chevy pickup truck. During the stop, Officer Gary Blocker asked Pfaff for permission to search his person and his vehicle. Pfaff said he consented to the search because he had nothing to hide and felt intimidated by a man with a badge and a gun. As he began the search, Blocker asked Pfaff if he would “find anything strange like a **** ring, lube or condoms,” according to Pfaff’s complaint.

Pfaff later filed a complaint against Blocker. In his complaint, Pfaff states that when he got home, he checked his lights and discovered that all of them, including the tag lights, were working. He now wonders why he was stopped in the first place and why Blocker asked to search his vehicle. He thinks he may have been pulled over because of gay bumper stickers on his truck. But Officer Pfaff has denied that he pulled over Pfaff because he is gay, according to an internal investigation of Pfaff’s complaint by the Wilton Manors Police Department.

I gave Officer Blocker a chance to explain why he searched Pfaff’s truck, but he did not return my phone calls.

The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution states: “the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause…”

While Officer Blocker apparently did not technically violate the Fourth Amendment because he asked permission to search Mr. Pfaff’s truck, it seems obvious that he has shown disrespect for the Fourth Amendment’s intent. The amendment was clearly intended to prohibit searches in which there is no probable cause to suspect a crime has been committed.

The internal “investigation” of Mr. Pfaff’s complaint by the Wilton Manors Police Department did not even address the issue of probable cause. It gave no reason for the search of Mr. Pfaff’s truck and his person. In fact, based on the report, Officer Blocker did not identify anything about Mr. Pfaff or his truck that would lead him to suspect that illegal drugs were present.

Furthermore, the report on Mr. Pfaff’s complaint contains the ridiculous assertion that “it has become increasingly usual for homosexual male subjects in Wilton Manors to advise they have a ‘**** right’ either in their pocket or on their penis at the time of the search.”

First of all, I can’t imagine that there are gay guys out there riding around town wearing **** rings. Secondly, I can’t imagine a police search stemming from a traffic stop that would venture into the area of a ringed penis.

We are told that the searches of Mr. Pfaff and his vehicle were permissible simply because Officer Blocker asked permission and Mr. Pfaff consented to the searches. Who wouldn’t consent when confronted by a man with a badge and a gun? Who would not be intimidated by such a request?

It appears that this was nothing more than a random search. The people of this community, gay and heterosexual, at least have the right to know under what circumstances they can expect to be subjected to a humiliating search when they are out going about their business in a law-abiding manner. It’s bad enough dealing with the mindless car culture down here, being chained to our cars and having no choice but to drive everywhere, without thinking that we could be stopped and searched for no apparent reason every time we venture out the door.


I would like to point out that the Express did not go out on a muckraking mission trying to dig up dirt on the Wilton Manors Police Department. Mr. Pfaff came to us and asked us to tell his story, feeling that he had been treated in a humiliating manner. Since we first reported on his story, three other people have come forward with similar stories. We reported on one of the incidents. The other two have asked to keep their names out of print for now. We have also received several letters to the editor denouncing the search.

Fortunately, Mr. Pfaff was not arrested during this incident, nor was he even cited. In fact, Mr. Pfaff stated that Officer Blocker was polite and generally conducted himself in a professional manner. It’s apparent that Officer Blocker believes such searches are needed to stem the drug-abuse problem in South Florida.

I disagree. Anyone who reads my writing in the Express has probably surmised that I am very much against illegal drugs. In fact, I do not support legalization of the various poisons that the drug dealers are peddling out there (a subject for a future editorial). But I do not support trampling on the Bill of Rights either. I think more and better drug education and access to treatment are the answers.

This controversy is swirling at a time when violent street crime is on the rise both in South Florida and nationwide. Don’t the police have better things to do than conduct searches of law-abiding motorists? As reported in this week’s Express, the Fort Lauderdale Police Department announced a crime-prevention seminar at the gay community center in response to concerns about violent street crime voiced by gay residents.

By the way, the Fort Lauderdale Police Department has a gay community liaison, Det. Brice Brittenum, who also happens to be gay. The Broward Sheriff’s Office has an openly lesbian community liaison, Adrian Reesey, whose job involves serving as a sounding board for the gay community and various other ethnic and neighborhood groups. Both BSO and the Fort Lauderdale Police Department have independent review boards to investigate complaints against police officers.

So why is it that the new “gay paradise,” Wilton Manors, currently with openly gay city commissioners and two past gay mayors, has no official gay liaison officer and no independent civilian complaint review board?

The Pfaff incident takes place at a time when former Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Wierzbicki is suing the city in a dispute over his pension. By almost all accounts, Chief Richard Wierzbicki was an excellent public servant who understood and respected the diversity of the community he served. He reached out to the gay community, even dropping by the Express office on more than one occasion. But since his departure, things appear to be going south fast.

In fact, Wierzbicki’s lawsuit comes at a time when the Wilton Manors Police Department is under increased pressure to justify its existence in a city with soaring tax rates. At a recent city commission meeting, former Mayor Sandra Steen urged the city to cut costs and consider eliminating the police department and bringing in BSO. Maybe it is time for the increased professionalism and resources of BSO in Wilton Manors.

As a " straight" taxpayer with a family in this city who lives on NW 5 ave and knows Officer Blocker I just cannot understand what has happend to this police department. I moved here over 9 years ago and thought this was a great city to live in. Coming to live and socialize in a diverse city was a dream of my wife Kathy's and our families. What has happend. This WAMH is nothing more than a political organization trying to further a few persons political goals. I thought they were organized to help secure our neighborhood. Their have been so many break in's around us we are thinking of moving out of Wilton Manors. Every time I try to call to talk to a detective or supervisor ( they told me he was out 3 months on a training school) they are out. My wife and I wonder what "out "is. We always see 2-3 cars at dunkin donuts or the 7/11 is that what "out "is. In reviewing this site since the article in Sunday's Sun Sentinel, is "out "for the chief eating a 2 hour lunch at J. Alexanders each day. How is that helping my property values with our esculating crime stats.With the lower tax revenues, management needs to be held more accountable to justify their positions & salary.Shame on you police chief and city management.[/quote:22scoptz]You should call officer Blocker supposedly he is now a detective. Maybe knowing someone can get the help with the breakins.

[quote="Remember?":14lfmsl4]Time for BSO to police Wilton Manors?
Vehicle search raises serious Fourth Amendment concerns

By PHIL LAPADULA
Friday, February 02, 2007


About a year and a half ago when former Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Wierzbicki announced his retirement, some members of the gay community rushed to the defense of the beleaguered Manors police department, believing that a small local police force would be more sensitive to the concerns of gay residents than the behemoth known as the Broward Sheriff’s Office. But after recent events came to light, many people are now reassessing that position.

On Nov. 29, a Wilton Manors police officer stopped John Pfaff, a local gay resident, allegedly because a tag light was out on his Chevy pickup truck. During the stop, Officer Gary Blocker asked Pfaff for permission to search his person and his vehicle. Pfaff said he consented to the search because he had nothing to hide and felt intimidated by a man with a badge and a gun. As he began the search, Blocker asked Pfaff if he would “find anything strange like a **** ring, lube or condoms,” according to Pfaff’s complaint.

Pfaff later filed a complaint against Blocker. In his complaint, Pfaff states that when he got home, he checked his lights and discovered that all of them, including the tag lights, were working. He now wonders why he was stopped in the first place and why Blocker asked to search his vehicle. He thinks he may have been pulled over because of gay bumper stickers on his truck. But Officer Pfaff has denied that he pulled over Pfaff because he is gay, according to an internal investigation of Pfaff’s complaint by the Wilton Manors Police Department.

I gave Officer Blocker a chance to explain why he searched Pfaff’s truck, but he did not return my phone calls.

The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution states: “the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause…”

While Officer Blocker apparently did not technically violate the Fourth Amendment because he asked permission to search Mr. Pfaff’s truck, it seems obvious that he has shown disrespect for the Fourth Amendment’s intent. The amendment was clearly intended to prohibit searches in which there is no probable cause to suspect a crime has been committed.

The internal “investigation” of Mr. Pfaff’s complaint by the Wilton Manors Police Department did not even address the issue of probable cause. It gave no reason for the search of Mr. Pfaff’s truck and his person. In fact, based on the report, Officer Blocker did not identify anything about Mr. Pfaff or his truck that would lead him to suspect that illegal drugs were present.

Furthermore, the report on Mr. Pfaff’s complaint contains the ridiculous assertion that “it has become increasingly usual for homosexual male subjects in Wilton Manors to advise they have a ‘**** right’ either in their pocket or on their penis at the time of the search.”

First of all, I can’t imagine that there are gay guys out there riding around town wearing **** rings. Secondly, I can’t imagine a police search stemming from a traffic stop that would venture into the area of a ringed penis.

We are told that the searches of Mr. Pfaff and his vehicle were permissible simply because Officer Blocker asked permission and Mr. Pfaff consented to the searches. Who wouldn’t consent when confronted by a man with a badge and a gun? Who would not be intimidated by such a request?

It appears that this was nothing more than a random search. The people of this community, gay and heterosexual, at least have the right to know under what circumstances they can expect to be subjected to a humiliating search when they are out going about their business in a law-abiding manner. It’s bad enough dealing with the mindless car culture down here, being chained to our cars and having no choice but to drive everywhere, without thinking that we could be stopped and searched for no apparent reason every time we venture out the door.


I would like to point out that the Express did not go out on a muckraking mission trying to dig up dirt on the Wilton Manors Police Department. Mr. Pfaff came to us and asked us to tell his story, feeling that he had been treated in a humiliating manner. Since we first reported on his story, three other people have come forward with similar stories. We reported on one of the incidents. The other two have asked to keep their names out of print for now. We have also received several letters to the editor denouncing the search.

Fortunately, Mr. Pfaff was not arrested during this incident, nor was he even cited. In fact, Mr. Pfaff stated that Officer Blocker was polite and generally conducted himself in a professional manner. It’s apparent that Officer Blocker believes such searches are needed to stem the drug-abuse problem in South Florida.

I disagree. Anyone who reads my writing in the Express has probably surmised that I am very much against illegal drugs. In fact, I do not support legalization of the various poisons that the drug dealers are peddling out there (a subject for a future editorial). But I do not support trampling on the Bill of Rights either. I think more and better drug education and access to treatment are the answers.

This controversy is swirling at a time when violent street crime is on the rise both in South Florida and nationwide. Don’t the police have better things to do than conduct searches of law-abiding motorists? As reported in this week’s Express, the Fort Lauderdale Police Department announced a crime-prevention seminar at the gay community center in response to concerns about violent street crime voiced by gay residents.

By the way, the Fort Lauderdale Police Department has a gay community liaison, Det. Brice Brittenum, who also happens to be gay. The Broward Sheriff’s Office has an openly lesbian community liaison, Adrian Reesey, whose job involves serving as a sounding board for the gay community and various other ethnic and neighborhood groups. Both BSO and the Fort Lauderdale Police Department have independent review boards to investigate complaints against police officers.

So why is it that the new “gay paradise,” Wilton Manors, currently with openly gay city commissioners and two past gay mayors, has no official gay liaison officer and no independent civilian complaint review board?

The Pfaff incident takes place at a time when former Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Wierzbicki is suing the city in a dispute over his pension. By almost all accounts, Chief Richard Wierzbicki was an excellent public servant who understood and respected the diversity of the community he served. He reached out to the gay community, even dropping by the Express office on more than one occasion. But since his departure, things appear to be going south fast.

In fact, Wierzbicki’s lawsuit comes at a time when the Wilton Manors Police Department is under increased pressure to justify its existence in a city with soaring tax rates. At a recent city commission meeting, former Mayor Sandra Steen urged the city to cut costs and consider eliminating the police department and bringing in BSO. Maybe it is time for the increased professionalism and resources of BSO in Wilton Manors.

As a " straight" taxpayer with a family in this city who lives on NW 5 ave and knows Officer Blocker I just cannot understand what has happend to this police department. I moved here over 9 years ago and thought this was a great city to live in. Coming to live and socialize in a diverse city was a dream of my wife Kathy's and our families. What has happend. This WAMH is nothing more than a political organization trying to further a few persons political goals. I thought they were organized to help secure our neighborhood. Their have been so many break in's around us we are thinking of moving out of Wilton Manors. Every time I try to call to talk to a detective or supervisor ( they told me he was out 3 months on a training school) they are out. My wife and I wonder what "out "is. We always see 2-3 cars at dunkin donuts or the 7/11 is that what "out "is. In reviewing this site since the article in Sunday's Sun Sentinel, is "out "for the chief eating a 2 hour lunch at J. Alexanders each day. How is that helping my property values with our esculating crime stats.With the lower tax revenues, management needs to be held more accountable to justify their positions & salary.Shame on you police chief and city management.[/quote:14lfmsl4]

mr straight taxpayer...was there a need to say you were straight?? Maybe you should get involved with your homeowners assoc. They can only do so much, you expect them to guard your house? Call the DB IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM...your time would be better spend than sittin here and writing about stuff you know nothing about,,,Were are you getting crime stats??I certainly wouldnt believe everything you read on here,,,just like I DONT BELIVE you live in WM...

[quote="Remember?":1a54bikb]Time for BSO to police Wilton Manors?
Vehicle search raises serious Fourth Amendment concerns

By PHIL LAPADULA
Friday, February 02, 2007


About a year and a half ago when former Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Wierzbicki announced his retirement, some members of the gay community rushed to the defense of the beleaguered Manors police department, believing that a small local police force would be more sensitive to the concerns of gay residents than the behemoth known as the Broward Sheriff’s Office. But after recent events came to light, many people are now reassessing that position.

On Nov. 29, a Wilton Manors police officer stopped John Pfaff, a local gay resident, allegedly because a tag light was out on his Chevy pickup truck. During the stop, Officer Gary Blocker asked Pfaff for permission to search his person and his vehicle. Pfaff said he consented to the search because he had nothing to hide and felt intimidated by a man with a badge and a gun. As he began the search, Blocker asked Pfaff if he would “find anything strange like a **** ring, lube or condoms,” according to Pfaff’s complaint.

Pfaff later filed a complaint against Blocker. In his complaint, Pfaff states that when he got home, he checked his lights and discovered that all of them, including the tag lights, were working. He now wonders why he was stopped in the first place and why Blocker asked to search his vehicle. He thinks he may have been pulled over because of gay bumper stickers on his truck. But Officer Pfaff has denied that he pulled over Pfaff because he is gay, according to an internal investigation of Pfaff’s complaint by the Wilton Manors Police Department.

I gave Officer Blocker a chance to explain why he searched Pfaff’s truck, but he did not return my phone calls.

The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution states: “the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause…”

While Officer Blocker apparently did not technically violate the Fourth Amendment because he asked permission to search Mr. Pfaff’s truck, it seems obvious that he has shown disrespect for the Fourth Amendment’s intent. The amendment was clearly intended to prohibit searches in which there is no probable cause to suspect a crime has been committed.

The internal “investigation” of Mr. Pfaff’s complaint by the Wilton Manors Police Department did not even address the issue of probable cause. It gave no reason for the search of Mr. Pfaff’s truck and his person. In fact, based on the report, Officer Blocker did not identify anything about Mr. Pfaff or his truck that would lead him to suspect that illegal drugs were present.

Furthermore, the report on Mr. Pfaff’s complaint contains the ridiculous assertion that “it has become increasingly usual for homosexual male subjects in Wilton Manors to advise they have a ‘**** right’ either in their pocket or on their penis at the time of the search.”

First of all, I can’t imagine that there are gay guys out there riding around town wearing **** rings. Secondly, I can’t imagine a police search stemming from a traffic stop that would venture into the area of a ringed penis.

We are told that the searches of Mr. Pfaff and his vehicle were permissible simply because Officer Blocker asked permission and Mr. Pfaff consented to the searches. Who wouldn’t consent when confronted by a man with a badge and a gun? Who would not be intimidated by such a request?

It appears that this was nothing more than a random search. The people of this community, gay and heterosexual, at least have the right to know under what circumstances they can expect to be subjected to a humiliating search when they are out going about their business in a law-abiding manner. It’s bad enough dealing with the mindless car culture down here, being chained to our cars and having no choice but to drive everywhere, without thinking that we could be stopped and searched for no apparent reason every time we venture out the door.


I would like to point out that the Express did not go out on a muckraking mission trying to dig up dirt on the Wilton Manors Police Department. Mr. Pfaff came to us and asked us to tell his story, feeling that he had been treated in a humiliating manner. Since we first reported on his story, three other people have come forward with similar stories. We reported on one of the incidents. The other two have asked to keep their names out of print for now. We have also received several letters to the editor denouncing the search.

Fortunately, Mr. Pfaff was not arrested during this incident, nor was he even cited. In fact, Mr. Pfaff stated that Officer Blocker was polite and generally conducted himself in a professional manner. It’s apparent that Officer Blocker believes such searches are needed to stem the drug-abuse problem in South Florida.

I disagree. Anyone who reads my writing in the Express has probably surmised that I am very much against illegal drugs. In fact, I do not support legalization of the various poisons that the drug dealers are peddling out there (a subject for a future editorial). But I do not support trampling on the Bill of Rights either. I think more and better drug education and access to treatment are the answers.

This controversy is swirling at a time when violent street crime is on the rise both in South Florida and nationwide. Don’t the police have better things to do than conduct searches of law-abiding motorists? As reported in this week’s Express, the Fort Lauderdale Police Department announced a crime-prevention seminar at the gay community center in response to concerns about violent street crime voiced by gay residents.

By the way, the Fort Lauderdale Police Department has a gay community liaison, Det. Brice Brittenum, who also happens to be gay. The Broward Sheriff’s Office has an openly lesbian community liaison, Adrian Reesey, whose job involves serving as a sounding board for the gay community and various other ethnic and neighborhood groups. Both BSO and the Fort Lauderdale Police Department have independent review boards to investigate complaints against police officers.

So why is it that the new “gay paradise,” Wilton Manors, currently with openly gay city commissioners and two past gay mayors, has no official gay liaison officer and no independent civilian complaint review board?

The Pfaff incident takes place at a time when former Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Wierzbicki is suing the city in a dispute over his pension. By almost all accounts, Chief Richard Wierzbicki was an excellent public servant who understood and respected the diversity of the community he served. He reached out to the gay community, even dropping by the Express office on more than one occasion. But since his departure, things appear to be going south fast.

In fact, Wierzbicki’s lawsuit comes at a time when the Wilton Manors Police Department is under increased pressure to justify its existence in a city with soaring tax rates. At a recent city commission meeting, former Mayor Sandra Steen urged the city to cut costs and consider eliminating the police department and bringing in BSO. Maybe it is time for the increased professionalism and resources of BSO in Wilton Manors.

As a " straight" taxpayer with a family in this city who lives on NW 5 ave and knows Officer Blocker I just cannot understand what has happend to this police department. I moved here over 9 years ago and thought this was a great city to live in. Coming to live and socialize in a diverse city was a dream of my wife Kathy's and our families. What has happend. This WAMH is nothing more than a political organization trying to further a few persons political goals. I thought they were organized to help secure our neighborhood. Their have been so many break in's around us we are thinking of moving out of Wilton Manors. Every time I try to call to talk to a detective or supervisor ( they told me he was out 3 months on a training school) they are out. My wife and I wonder what "out "is. We always see 2-3 cars at dunkin donuts or the 7/11 is that what "out "is. In reviewing this site since the article in Sunday's Sun Sentinel, is "out "for the chief eating a 2 hour lunch at J. Alexanders each day. How is that helping my property values with our esculating crime stats.With the lower tax revenues, management needs to be held more accountable to justify their positions & salary.Shame on you police chief and city management.

mr straight taxpayer...was there a need to say you were straight?? Maybe you should get involved with your homeowners assoc. They can only do so much, you expect them to guard your house? Call the DB IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM...your time would be better spend than sittin here and writing about stuff you know nothing about,,,Were are you getting crime stats??I certainly wouldnt believe everything you read on here,,,just like I DONT BELIVE you live in WM...[/quote:1a54bikb]

You want crime stats? Check the FDLE website for UCR stats. We are right up there for crime rate per 100,000 with cities like:
Pembroke Park
FLPD
Dania
Pompano
BSO (unincorporated located around Broward and NW 27 Ave)
Great company if you LIKE crime. I invite you to drive through these areas. See what the araes are like and we have similar crime. This is the service you get from WMPD.
Taxpayers what are you getting for your money? I suggest that you clean house at the top before its too late to save the PD (if it is not already too late.) Because your only option then is BSO.
Our crime rate went up,I believe, 15% (2005 over 2004 rate) when the city decided to demoralize the PD with the Dhillon report. And crime went up again with our current Chief RP for 2006 year. Cant wait for the 2007 stats.
You can check the stats yourself.
LETS REVIEW:
Save this place now by cleaning house and keep the PD or go BSO. Either option will reduce crime and get you your money's worth.

Hey Realistic. I find it curious that you're beating the dead-horse BSO issue again, since four of the five cities you cite in your case are policed BY BSO. And you think they'll be an improvement?!?! Why don't you back off, and let Chief Perez do his job. Once he cleans out some of the juvenile malcontents, who really aren't interested in much beyond an endless recess period, and hires some people who actually want to work, things will improve. Give the man a chance to reach the bottom layer of sediment which has been piling up for the past 20 years in the agency!

[quote="Remember?":162lo8m1]Time for BSO to police Wilton Manors?
Vehicle search raises serious Fourth Amendment concerns

By PHIL LAPADULA
Friday, February 02, 2007


About a year and a half ago when former Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Wierzbicki announced his retirement, some members of the gay community rushed to the defense of the beleaguered Manors police department, believing that a small local police force would be more sensitive to the concerns of gay residents than the behemoth known as the Broward Sheriff’s Office. But after recent events came to light, many people are now reassessing that position.

On Nov. 29, a Wilton Manors police officer stopped John Pfaff, a local gay resident, allegedly because a tag light was out on his Chevy pickup truck. During the stop, Officer Gary Blocker asked Pfaff for permission to search his person and his vehicle. Pfaff said he consented to the search because he had nothing to hide and felt intimidated by a man with a badge and a gun. As he began the search, Blocker asked Pfaff if he would “find anything strange like a **** ring, lube or condoms,” according to Pfaff’s complaint.

Pfaff later filed a complaint against Blocker. In his complaint, Pfaff states that when he got home, he checked his lights and discovered that all of them, including the tag lights, were working. He now wonders why he was stopped in the first place and why Blocker asked to search his vehicle. He thinks he may have been pulled over because of gay bumper stickers on his truck. But Officer Pfaff has denied that he pulled over Pfaff because he is gay, according to an internal investigation of Pfaff’s complaint by the Wilton Manors Police Department.

I gave Officer Blocker a chance to explain why he searched Pfaff’s truck, but he did not return my phone calls.

The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution states: “the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause…”

While Officer Blocker apparently did not technically violate the Fourth Amendment because he asked permission to search Mr. Pfaff’s truck, it seems obvious that he has shown disrespect for the Fourth Amendment’s intent. The amendment was clearly intended to prohibit searches in which there is no probable cause to suspect a crime has been committed.

The internal “investigation” of Mr. Pfaff’s complaint by the Wilton Manors Police Department did not even address the issue of probable cause. It gave no reason for the search of Mr. Pfaff’s truck and his person. In fact, based on the report, Officer Blocker did not identify anything about Mr. Pfaff or his truck that would lead him to suspect that illegal drugs were present.

Furthermore, the report on Mr. Pfaff’s complaint contains the ridiculous assertion that “it has become increasingly usual for homosexual male subjects in Wilton Manors to advise they have a ‘**** right’ either in their pocket or on their penis at the time of the search.”

First of all, I can’t imagine that there are gay guys out there riding around town wearing **** rings. Secondly, I can’t imagine a police search stemming from a traffic stop that would venture into the area of a ringed penis.

We are told that the searches of Mr. Pfaff and his vehicle were permissible simply because Officer Blocker asked permission and Mr. Pfaff consented to the searches. Who wouldn’t consent when confronted by a man with a badge and a gun? Who would not be intimidated by such a request?

It appears that this was nothing more than a random search. The people of this community, gay and heterosexual, at least have the right to know under what circumstances they can expect to be subjected to a humiliating search when they are out going about their business in a law-abiding manner. It’s bad enough dealing with the mindless car culture down here, being chained to our cars and having no choice but to drive everywhere, without thinking that we could be stopped and searched for no apparent reason every time we venture out the door.


I would like to point out that the Express did not go out on a muckraking mission trying to dig up dirt on the Wilton Manors Police Department. Mr. Pfaff came to us and asked us to tell his story, feeling that he had been treated in a humiliating manner. Since we first reported on his story, three other people have come forward with similar stories. We reported on one of the incidents. The other two have asked to keep their names out of print for now. We have also received several letters to the editor denouncing the search.

Fortunately, Mr. Pfaff was not arrested during this incident, nor was he even cited. In fact, Mr. Pfaff stated that Officer Blocker was polite and generally conducted himself in a professional manner. It’s apparent that Officer Blocker believes such searches are needed to stem the drug-abuse problem in South Florida.

I disagree. Anyone who reads my writing in the Express has probably surmised that I am very much against illegal drugs. In fact, I do not support legalization of the various poisons that the drug dealers are peddling out there (a subject for a future editorial). But I do not support trampling on the Bill of Rights either. I think more and better drug education and access to treatment are the answers.

This controversy is swirling at a time when violent street crime is on the rise both in South Florida and nationwide. Don’t the police have better things to do than conduct searches of law-abiding motorists? As reported in this week’s Express, the Fort Lauderdale Police Department announced a crime-prevention seminar at the gay community center in response to concerns about violent street crime voiced by gay residents.

By the way, the Fort Lauderdale Police Department has a gay community liaison, Det. Brice Brittenum, who also happens to be gay. The Broward Sheriff’s Office has an openly lesbian community liaison, Adrian Reesey, whose job involves serving as a sounding board for the gay community and various other ethnic and neighborhood groups. Both BSO and the Fort Lauderdale Police Department have independent review boards to investigate complaints against police officers.

So why is it that the new “gay paradise,” Wilton Manors, currently with openly gay city commissioners and two past gay mayors, has no official gay liaison officer and no independent civilian complaint review board?

The Pfaff incident takes place at a time when former Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Wierzbicki is suing the city in a dispute over his pension. By almost all accounts, Chief Richard Wierzbicki was an excellent public servant who understood and respected the diversity of the community he served. He reached out to the gay community, even dropping by the Express office on more than one occasion. But since his departure, things appear to be going south fast.

In fact, Wierzbicki’s lawsuit comes at a time when the Wilton Manors Police Department is under increased pressure to justify its existence in a city with soaring tax rates. At a recent city commission meeting, former Mayor Sandra Steen urged the city to cut costs and consider eliminating the police department and bringing in BSO. Maybe it is time for the increased professionalism and resources of BSO in Wilton Manors.

As a " straight" taxpayer with a family in this city who lives on NW 5 ave and knows Officer Blocker I just cannot understand what has happend to this police department. I moved here over 9 years ago and thought this was a great city to live in. Coming to live and socialize in a diverse city was a dream of my wife Kathy's and our families. What has happend. This WAMH is nothing more than a political organization trying to further a few persons political goals. I thought they were organized to help secure our neighborhood. Their have been so many break in's around us we are thinking of moving out of Wilton Manors. Every time I try to call to talk to a detective or supervisor ( they told me he was out 3 months on a training school) they are out. My wife and I wonder what "out "is. We always see 2-3 cars at dunkin donuts or the 7/11 is that what "out "is. In reviewing this site since the article in Sunday's Sun Sentinel, is "out "for the chief eating a 2 hour lunch at J. Alexanders each day. How is that helping my property values with our esculating crime stats.With the lower tax revenues, management needs to be held more accountable to justify their positions & salary.Shame on you police chief and city management.

mr straight taxpayer...was there a need to say you were straight?? Maybe you should get involved with your homeowners assoc. They can only do so much, you expect them to guard your house? Call the DB IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM...your time would be better spend than sittin here and writing about stuff you know nothing about,,,Were are you getting crime stats??I certainly wouldnt believe everything you read on here,,,just like I DONT BELIVE you live in WM...[/quote:162lo8m1]
I did try to get really involved in my WAHM Homeowners Association. Problem was I tried to introduce myself to the past president, Joseph Angelo, at the St Clements School and later President Boyka at Pace School, but they were more interested in flirting with a male member's of the audience at both locations and brushed me off , rather than listening to a complaint by a homeowner and his family who was trying to engage them in conversation. That is why I Identified myself as STRAIGHT.It gets frustrating after a while to be brushed off on different occasions.And I did call the PD and got passed along to the DB who said my complaint did not have the criteria for a follow up investigation and would not assist me in any way. I got crime stat's from a sun sentinel and miami herald reseacher and a student intern at Nova Southeast who was doing a research paper on crime in broward county in relation to crime in the southeaster US for the FBI Index. I am a Professor at Nova so I do not believe everything I read but can base an answer on the facts that are presented to myself in a logical fashion. And I do not expect anyone to guard my house. But I do expect a prompt response from the elected officials from the city on why crime has gone unchecked and you can look at any "stats " to see that is happening. Thank you LEO AFFAIRS,for letting me express my views.

Hey Realistic. I find it curious that you're beating the dead-horse BSO issue again, since four of the five cities you cite in your case are policed BY BSO. And you think they'll be an improvement?!?! Why don't you back off, and let Chief Perez do his job. Once he cleans out some of the juvenile malcontents, who really aren't interested in much beyond an endless recess period, and hires some people who actually want to work, things will improve. Give the man a chance to reach the bottom layer of sediment which has been piling up for the past 20 years in the agency!

Do you really want to go there. Let's see. Lets go back the last five or six hires. There seems to be a history. If you are unfamiliar, I can be MORE specific in a future post.

Hey Realistic. I find it curious that you're beating the dead-horse BSO issue again, since four of the five cities you cite in your case are policed BY BSO. And you think they'll be an improvement?!?! Why don't you back off, and let Chief Perez do his job. Once he cleans out some of the juvenile malcontents, who really aren't interested in much beyond an endless recess period, and hires some people who actually want to work, things will improve. Give the man a chance to reach the bottom layer of sediment which has been piling up for the past 20 years in the agency!

So he has to fire everybody? He is the only one worthy? Please! I think he has gone through almost 25 employees and he still cant get a handle on it. Trust me if he cant get a handle on it, and there is NO indication he will, or our new PD becomes too expensive or they dont fix the tax thing etc etc etc. that BSO horse will be alive and kicking. Again, its your choice, fix it or lose it. I dont think you have the pulse of the taxpayer/resident who is sick of the stats I listed. If you want change RP must go. RP's methods are intimidation and fear. Do you believe that is a motivator? Why were stats lower when, as you say it, it was an endless recess period? Because you are a liar or ignorant or both. You have lost very talented people and some that remain are just hunkered down waiting for RP to leave.
To your point that some of those places are BSO yes they are, but look at their crimne areas. Some of them will be that way forever, but Wilton Manors should not have the high stats that we do. Where is the Wilton Manors ghetto? I guess you just want to close your eyes to the crime here.

Hey Realistic. I find it curious that you're beating the dead-horse BSO issue again, since four of the five cities you cite in your case are policed BY BSO. And you think they'll be an improvement?!?! Why don't you back off, and let Chief Perez do his job. Once he cleans out some of the juvenile malcontents, who really aren't interested in much beyond an endless recess period, and hires some people who actually want to work, things will improve. Give the man a chance to reach the bottom layer of sediment which has been piling up for the past 20 years in the agency!

Do you really want to go there. Let's see. Lets go back the last five or six hires. There seems to be a history. If you are unfamiliar, I can be MORE specific in a future post.

Oh, please do tell........

Crime stats are up everwhere so lets be honest here....its a sign of the times. WM is still safer to live than most areas. I find it very hard that everyone you have run across in this city turns their back to you and doesnt answer your ??..Maybe its just YOU :lol:

Chief of Black Elected Officials group refuses to resign
By Juan Ortega | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 18, 2007

Pressure continued to increase Wednesday for Lauderdale Lakes Commissioner Levoyd Williams to resign as president of Broward Black Elected Officials. Williams instead has vowed to reclaim the reputation of the nonprofit political group.

The business practices of the organization have fallen under increased public scrutiny for weeks, as some members have left the group in protest. The most recent departure came this week when fellow Lauderdale Lakes Commissioner Barrington Russell quit, saying the group has been too slow to answer critics.

Those critics have questioned if the Broward Black Elected Officials group has spent too much money on fundraising rather than spending more of it on student scholarships, as well as insufficiently kept track of finances. Members don't know specifics about the group's finances and redirect questions to Williams, who in turn hasn't answered how much money the group has collected and what percent has gone to charity.

"I called him on Monday to clarify the financial position of the organization. The response wasn't satisfactory and didn't make much sense to me," Russell said. "With rumors of misappropriations, you should be in a position where you should be able to give accurate information."

The group, with about 20 members, has a mission of fostering leadership skills among elected officials and raising scholarship money for high school and college students.

Williams said he plans to make available soon the group's financial form for the 2005-2006 fiscal year, a document he said was prepared by an accounting firm and given to the Internal Revenue Service. The financial activity for the 2006-2007 fiscal year would be filed at a later time, Williams said.

"This is a worthy organization and sometimes worthy organizations come under attack," Williams said. "But worthy people stick to it."

Dania Beach Vice Mayor Albert Jones, a former member of the organization in the 1990s, said he wants to rejoin the group — but only after Williams gives up his post.

"Whether there's wrongdoing or not, for the greater good, Williams has to resign," Jones said. "Just presenting information is not enough. The stigma is already there."

Wilton Manors Commissioner Joe Angelo, recently appointed as the group's treasurer, defended Williams, saying Williams took too much responsibility to compensate for waning group participation.

"Levoyd has taken on more work than any one person can handle. We're finally realizing that," Angelo said.

The article in the Sunday's Sun-Sentinel has nothing to do with crime stats, or with black/brown/yellow/white politicians. Let's not contaminate this discussion... It all has to do with two different opinions: one says that RP has destroyed the WMPD; the other says only a few disgruntal ones feel that way... Let's keep the focus on this topic and try to get somewhere... :!:

Crime stats are up everwhere so lets be honest here....its a sign of the times. WM is still safer to live than most areas. I find it very hard that everyone you have run across in this city turns their back to you and doesnt answer your ??..Maybe its just YOU :lol:

Stats,
Why do you not want to face facts. Go to the FDLE site and look at the stats. Crime is NOT up everywhere and in some so called crime ridden areas it has in fact gone down, but not in Wilton Manors. See for yourself or do you just not want to see?

Crime stats are up everwhere so lets be honest here....its a sign of the times. WM is still safer to live than most areas. I find it very hard that everyone you have run across in this city turns their back to you and doesnt answer your ??..Maybe its just YOU :lol:

Stats,
Why do you not want to face facts. Go to the FDLE site and look at the stats. Crime is NOT up everywhere and in some so called crime ridden areas it has in fact gone down, but not in Wilton Manors. See for yourself or do you just not want to see?

Very well said. People need to see the truth not what is said at Commission Meetings and staged homeowners meetings. Good post.

Crime stats are up everwhere so lets be honest here....its a sign of the times. WM is still safer to live than most areas. I find it very hard that everyone you have run across in this city turns their back to you and doesnt answer your ??..Maybe its just YOU :lol:

Stats,
Why do you not want to face facts. Go to the FDLE site and look at the stats. Crime is NOT up everywhere and in some so called crime ridden areas it has in fact gone down, but not in Wilton Manors. See for yourself or do you just not want to see?

Please provide the links to the stats you are quoting...when I went to the site all I can find is Broward county, not cities..so, here's a chance to actually show some proof..ill be waiting to see for myself. thanks

http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/FSAC/UCR/index.asp
UCR annual and semi annual crime reports
scroll to 2006 county and municial offense and then the county and municpal arrest one for 2006. Scroll down further to 2005 for those stats

http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/FSAC/UCR/index.asp
UCR annual and semi annual crime reports
scroll to 2006 county and municial offense and then the county and municpal arrest one for 2006. Scroll down further to 2005 for those stats

thanks, but i dont see anything for any concern. the % index change for WM is 1.8..between 2005/2006...thats low compared to most...and the 2005 stats are reported different than the 2006..still interesting reading

http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/FSAC/UCR/index.asp
UCR annual and semi annual crime reports
scroll to 2006 county and municial offense and then the county and municpal arrest one for 2006. Scroll down further to 2005 for those stats

thanks, but i dont see anything for any concern. the % index change for WM is 1.8..between 2005/2006...thats low compared to most...and the 2005 stats are reported different than the 2006..still interesting readingFairly low as far as clearing cases though.

Why did ours go up 1.8 while others, some high crime areas, went down?
Lack of manpower
lack of motivation
lack of leadership

Any statistic of 3% or less over a population of 10,000 or less is meaningless; it can go either way and it is all a matter of statistical roundings. Now, you cited three scenarios that merit further attention: lack of manpower, lack of motivation, lack of leadership. I cannot comment on the lack of manpower since I am not sufficiently familiar with all the demographic variables of Wilton Manors, and the optimal recomemnded allocation of LEO for that population. However, regarding motivation, it comes from within; period! If you are an honest, hard worker who behaves with integrity, commands trust, and puts their best effort forth in all circumstances, there is absolutely nobody or circumstance who could take that motivation away from you; thinking otherwise is bogus, and trying to blame somebodyelse for one's own shortcomings lacks authenticity. Regarding leadership, it is all relative and less important if the institution is strong to begin with; if that was not the case, the US would have destroyed itself and disappeared in the last six years under W's leadership; it hasn't because even under poor leadership, the institution is strong and will survive; the leadership is temporary.

The key here is either to preserve WMPD strength so it will survive, or to make it strong enough to survive... Do you agree? If you agree, do you agree as well that this type of negative dialog does nothing to RP (no formalization of issues, no records, nothing; he will retire or move on in time) but may destroy the WMPD?

Any statistic of 3% or less over a population of 10,000 or less is meaningless; it can go either way and it is all a matter of statistical roundings. Now, you cited three scenarios that merit further attention: lack of manpower, lack of motivation, lack of leadership. I cannot comment on the lack of manpower since I am not sufficiently familiar with all the demographic variables of Wilton Manors, and the optimal recomemnded allocation of LEO for that population. However, regarding motivation, it comes from within; period! If you are an honest, hard worker who behaves with integrity, commands trust, and puts their best effort forth in all circumstances, there is absolutely nobody or circumstance who could take that motivation away from you; thinking otherwise is bogus, and trying to blame somebodyelse for one's own shortcomings lacks authenticity. Regarding leadership, it is all relative and less important if the institution is strong to begin with; if that was not the case, the US would have destroyed itself and disappeared in the last six years under W's leadership; it hasn't because even under poor leadership, the institution is strong and will survive; the leadership is temporary.

The key here is either to preserve WMPD strength so it will survive, or to make it strong enough to survive... Do you agree? If you agree, do you agree as well that this type of negative dialog does nothing to RP (no formalization of issues, no records, nothing; he will retire or move on in time) but may destroy the WMPD?

MARSman makes a very good point, it is up to the guys to preserve the WMPD. It was a great PD under Wiz & Ken, but it can be a great PD again. Everyone just needs to hang in there, wait RP out and do what is necessary to make it great. I loved working for WMPD, not just because of one person, but because of everyone. There are still a lot of wonderful people there and you are the ones that can make it great once more.

Any statistic of 3% or less over a population of 10,000 or less is meaningless; it can go either way and it is all a matter of statistical roundings. Now, you cited three scenarios that merit further attention: lack of manpower, lack of motivation, lack of leadership. I cannot comment on the lack of manpower since I am not sufficiently familiar with all the demographic variables of Wilton Manors, and the optimal recomemnded allocation of LEO for that population. However, regarding motivation, it comes from within; period! If you are an honest, hard worker who behaves with integrity, commands trust, and puts their best effort forth in all circumstances, there is absolutely nobody or circumstance who could take that motivation away from you; thinking otherwise is bogus, and trying to blame somebodyelse for one's own shortcomings lacks authenticity. Regarding leadership, it is all relative and less important if the institution is strong to begin with; if that was not the case, the US would have destroyed itself and disappeared in the last six years under W's leadership; it hasn't because even under poor leadership, the institution is strong and will survive; the leadership is temporary.

The key here is either to preserve WMPD strength so it will survive, or to make it strong enough to survive... Do you agree? If you agree, do you agree as well that this type of negative dialog does nothing to RP (no formalization of issues, no records, nothing; he will retire or move on in time) but may destroy the WMPD?

UH......WHAT?

Hey Realistic. I find it curious that you're beating the dead-horse BSO issue again, since four of the five cities you cite in your case are policed BY BSO. And you think they'll be an improvement?!?! Why don't you back off, and let Chief Perez do his job. Once he cleans out some of the juvenile malcontents, who really aren't interested in much beyond an endless recess period, and hires some people who actually want to work, things will improve. Give the man a chance to reach the bottom layer of sediment which has been piling up for the past 20 years in the agency!

Perez has been in office since Jan 2006. He has done nothing in this dept except, drive 25 employees away, hired some questionable people that had big background problems(because so may people left), alienated the FOPA (that have helped the PD for years), caused law suits, gave up Police positions to hire his secretary from FLPD. Gave up more Police positions for parttime crossing guards. Got rid of the K9'S that brought in 3 million to the city, got rid of the motor cycles that brought in over 200 K in revenue (in a slow year) and helped with traffic issues and pedestrian problems through out the city, caused the men to turn on each other, broke policy by letting an affair continue within the dept. and so much more. How much more time do we want to give him??? What other mess will he create? All of this and he still blames his mess on other people and not take responsibility for his actions (not the sign of a leader). He alone, and the Mayor who really pulls the strings have created this. My question is, how safe is the city and it's citizens with Perez in charge????

Hey Realistic. I find it curious that you're beating the dead-horse BSO issue again, since four of the five cities you cite in your case are policed BY BSO. And you think they'll be an improvement?!?! Why don't you back off, and let Chief Perez do his job. Once he cleans out some of the juvenile malcontents, who really aren't interested in much beyond an endless recess period, and hires some people who actually want to work, things will improve. Give the man a chance to reach the bottom layer of sediment which has been piling up for the past 20 years in the agency!

Perez has been in office since Jan 2006. He has done nothing in this dept except, drive 25 employees away, hired some questionable people that had big background problems(because so may people left), alienated the FOPA (that have helped the PD for years), caused law suits, gave up Police positions to hire his secretary from FLPD. Gave up more Police positions for parttime crossing guards. Got rid of the K9'S that brought in 3 million to the city, got rid of the motor cycles that brought in over 200 K in revenue (in a slow year) and helped with traffic issues and pedestrian problems through out the city, caused the men to turn on each other, broke policy by letting an affair continue within the dept. and so much more. How much more time do we want to give him??? What other mess will he create? All of this and he still blames his mess on other people and not take responsibility for his actions (not the sign of a leader). He alone, and the Mayor who really pulls the strings have created this. My question is, how safe is the city and it's citizens with Perez in charge????

oh please... first let hear you name 25 employees that have left..

Hey Realistic. I find it curious that you're beating the dead-horse BSO issue again, since four of the five cities you cite in your case are policed BY BSO. And you think they'll be an improvement?!?! Why don't you back off, and let Chief Perez do his job. Once he cleans out some of the juvenile malcontents, who really aren't interested in much beyond an endless recess period, and hires some people who actually want to work, things will improve. Give the man a chance to reach the bottom layer of sediment which has been piling up for the past 20 years in the agency!

Perez has been in office since Jan 2006. He has done nothing in this dept except, drive 25 employees away, hired some questionable people that had big background problems(because so may people left), alienated the FOPA (that have helped the PD for years), caused law suits, gave up Police positions to hire his secretary from FLPD. Gave up more Police positions for parttime crossing guards. Got rid of the K9'S that brought in 3 million to the city, got rid of the motor cycles that brought in over 200 K in revenue (in a slow year) and helped with traffic issues and pedestrian problems through out the city, caused the men to turn on each other, broke policy by letting an affair continue within the dept. and so much more. How much more time do we want to give him??? What other mess will he create? All of this and he still blames his mess on other people and not take responsibility for his actions (not the sign of a leader). He alone, and the Mayor who really pulls the strings have created this. My question is, how safe is the city and it's citizens with Perez in charge????

oh please... first let hear you name 25 employees that have left..

If they do name the people will it make a difference to you. Probably not. Maybe your just another RP lackey, without an independent thought.

Hey Realistic. I find it curious that you're beating the dead-horse BSO issue again, since four of the five cities you cite in your case are policed BY BSO. And you think they'll be an improvement?!?! Why don't you back off, and let Chief Perez do his job. Once he cleans out some of the juvenile malcontents, who really aren't interested in much beyond an endless recess period, and hires some people who actually want to work, things will improve. Give the man a chance to reach the bottom layer of sediment which has been piling up for the past 20 years in the agency!

Perez has been in office since Jan 2006. He has done nothing in this dept except, drive 25 employees away, hired some questionable people that had big background problems(because so may people left), alienated the FOPA (that have helped the PD for years), caused law suits, gave up Police positions to hire his secretary from FLPD. Gave up more Police positions for parttime crossing guards. Got rid of the K9'S that brought in 3 million to the city, got rid of the motor cycles that brought in over 200 K in revenue (in a slow year) and helped with traffic issues and pedestrian problems through out the city, caused the men to turn on each other, broke policy by letting an affair continue within the dept. and so much more. How much more time do we want to give him??? What other mess will he create? All of this and he still blames his mess on other people and not take responsibility for his actions (not the sign of a leader). He alone, and the Mayor who really pulls the strings have created this. My question is, how safe is the city and it's citizens with Perez in charge????

oh please... first let hear you name 25 employees that have left..

If they do name the people will it make a difference to you. Probably not. Maybe your just another RP lackey, without an independent thought


yes, let us hear facts for once instead of gossip and alot of blag blah blah

So, can anybody identify and define the issues at WMPD? Can you put them is a way such as:
Incident Description
What was wrong?
What action was needed?
Was it taken?
Results/consequences
With such a list we can start talking intelligently about facts and eventually derive potential solutions, which is ultimately what we need: solutions!

So, can anybody identify and define the issues at WMPD? Can you put them is a way such as:
Incident Description
What was wrong?
What action was needed?
Was it taken?
Results/consequences
With such a list we can start talking intelligently about facts and eventually derive potential solutions, which is ultimately what we need: solutions!

Solutions are very simple. Get rid of the Mayor Scott Newton who is on his way out. Get rid of all the incumbent city commissioners named Joe Angelo, Gary Resnick, Ted Galatis and Craig Sherritt. Most of all get rid of City Manager Joe ( I have no backone) Gallegos. If you want to win back the employees of this city that is what you want to do. In addition, if you want a chance to get the PD back which is very, very doubtfull, get rid of Perez and the John Denver look alike ( rumor is she is Tenn abound not a minute to soon). You all have this city down a path of self destruction and removal of office is the fitting end.

[quote="Alex T. Lablatt":1g22630o][quote="Remember?":1g22630o]Time for BSO to police Wilton Manors?
Vehicle search raises serious Fourth Amendment concerns

By PHIL LAPADULA
Friday, February 02, 2007


About a year and a half ago when former Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Wierzbicki announced his retirement, some members of the gay community rushed to the defense of the beleaguered Manors police department, believing that a small local police force would be more sensitive to the concerns of gay residents than the behemoth known as the Broward Sheriff’s Office. But after recent events came to light, many people are now reassessing that position.

On Nov. 29, a Wilton Manors police officer stopped John Pfaff, a local gay resident, allegedly because a tag light was out on his Chevy pickup truck. During the stop, Officer Gary Blocker asked Pfaff for permission to search his person and his vehicle. Pfaff said he consented to the search because he had nothing to hide and felt intimidated by a man with a badge and a gun. As he began the search, Blocker asked Pfaff if he would “find anything strange like a **** ring, lube or condoms,” according to Pfaff’s complaint.

Pfaff later filed a complaint against Blocker. In his complaint, Pfaff states that when he got home, he checked his lights and discovered that all of them, including the tag lights, were working. He now wonders why he was stopped in the first place and why Blocker asked to search his vehicle. He thinks he may have been pulled over because of gay bumper stickers on his truck. But Officer Pfaff has denied that he pulled over Pfaff because he is gay, according to an internal investigation of Pfaff’s complaint by the Wilton Manors Police Department.

I gave Officer Blocker a chance to explain why he searched Pfaff’s truck, but he did not return my phone calls.

The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution states: “the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause…”

While Officer Blocker apparently did not technically violate the Fourth Amendment because he asked permission to search Mr. Pfaff’s truck, it seems obvious that he has shown disrespect for the Fourth Amendment’s intent. The amendment was clearly intended to prohibit searches in which there is no probable cause to suspect a crime has been committed.

The internal “investigation” of Mr. Pfaff’s complaint by the Wilton Manors Police Department did not even address the issue of probable cause. It gave no reason for the search of Mr. Pfaff’s truck and his person. In fact, based on the report, Officer Blocker did not identify anything about Mr. Pfaff or his truck that would lead him to suspect that illegal drugs were present.

Furthermore, the report on Mr. Pfaff’s complaint contains the ridiculous assertion that “it has become increasingly usual for homosexual male subjects in Wilton Manors to advise they have a ‘**** right’ either in their pocket or on their penis at the time of the search.”

First of all, I can’t imagine that there are gay guys out there riding around town wearing **** rings. Secondly, I can’t imagine a police search stemming from a traffic stop that would venture into the area of a ringed penis.

We are told that the searches of Mr. Pfaff and his vehicle were permissible simply because Officer Blocker asked permission and Mr. Pfaff consented to the searches. Who wouldn’t consent when confronted by a man with a badge and a gun? Who would not be intimidated by such a request?

It appears that this was nothing more than a random search. The people of this community, gay and heterosexual, at least have the right to know under what circumstances they can expect to be subjected to a humiliating search when they are out going about their business in a law-abiding manner. It’s bad enough dealing with the mindless car culture down here, being chained to our cars and having no choice but to drive everywhere, without thinking that we could be stopped and searched for no apparent reason every time we venture out the door.


I would like to point out that the Express did not go out on a muckraking mission trying to dig up dirt on the Wilton Manors Police Department. Mr. Pfaff came to us and asked us to tell his story, feeling that he had been treated in a humiliating manner. Since we first reported on his story, three other people have come forward with similar stories. We reported on one of the incidents. The other two have asked to keep their names out of print for now. We have also received several letters to the editor denouncing the search.

Fortunately, Mr. Pfaff was not arrested during this incident, nor was he even cited. In fact, Mr. Pfaff stated that Officer Blocker was polite and generally conducted himself in a professional manner. It’s apparent that Officer Blocker believes such searches are needed to stem the drug-abuse problem in South Florida.

I disagree. Anyone who reads my writing in the Express has probably surmised that I am very much against illegal drugs. In fact, I do not support legalization of the various poisons that the drug dealers are peddling out there (a subject for a future editorial). But I do not support trampling on the Bill of Rights either. I think more and better drug education and access to treatment are the answers.

This controversy is swirling at a time when violent street crime is on the rise both in South Florida and nationwide. Don’t the police have better things to do than conduct searches of law-abiding motorists? As reported in this week’s Express, the Fort Lauderdale Police Department announced a crime-prevention seminar at the gay community center in response to concerns about violent street crime voiced by gay residents.

By the way, the Fort Lauderdale Police Department has a gay community liaison, Det. Brice Brittenum, who also happens to be gay. The Broward Sheriff’s Office has an openly lesbian community liaison, Adrian Reesey, whose job involves serving as a sounding board for the gay community and various other ethnic and neighborhood groups. Both BSO and the Fort Lauderdale Police Department have independent review boards to investigate complaints against police officers.

So why is it that the new “gay paradise,” Wilton Manors, currently with openly gay city commissioners and two past gay mayors, has no official gay liaison officer and no independent civilian complaint review board?

The Pfaff incident takes place at a time when former Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Wierzbicki is suing the city in a dispute over his pension. By almost all accounts, Chief Richard Wierzbicki was an excellent public servant who understood and respected the diversity of the community he served. He reached out to the gay community, even dropping by the Express office on more than one occasion. But since his departure, things appear to be going south fast.

In fact, Wierzbicki’s lawsuit comes at a time when the Wilton Manors Police Department is under increased pressure to justify its existence in a city with soaring tax rates. At a recent city commission meeting, former Mayor Sandra Steen urged the city to cut costs and consider eliminating the police department and bringing in BSO. Maybe it is time for the increased professionalism and resources of BSO in Wilton Manors.

As a " straight" taxpayer with a family in this city who lives on NW 5 ave and knows Officer Blocker I just cannot understand what has happend to this police department. I moved here over 9 years ago and thought this was a great city to live in. Coming to live and socialize in a diverse city was a dream of my wife Kathy's and our families. What has happend. This WAMH is nothing more than a political organization trying to further a few persons political goals. I thought they were organized to help secure our neighborhood. Their have been so many break in's around us we are thinking of moving out of Wilton Manors. Every time I try to call to talk to a detective or supervisor ( they told me he was out 3 months on a training school) they are out. My wife and I wonder what "out "is. We always see 2-3 cars at dunkin donuts or the 7/11 is that what "out "is. In reviewing this site since the article in Sunday's Sun Sentinel, is "out "for the chief eating a 2 hour lunch at J. Alexanders each day. How is that helping my property values with our esculating crime stats.With the lower tax revenues, management needs to be held more accountable to justify their positions & salary.Shame on you police chief and city management.

mr straight taxpayer...was there a need to say you were straight?? Maybe you should get involved with your homeowners assoc. They can only do so much, you expect them to guard your house? Call the DB IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM...your time would be better spend than sittin here and writing about stuff you know nothing about,,,Were are you getting crime stats??I certainly wouldnt believe everything you read on here,,,just like I DONT BELIVE you live in WM...[/quote:1g22630o]
I did try to get really involved in my WAHM Homeowners Association. Problem was I tried to introduce myself to the past president, Joseph Angelo, at the St Clements School and later President Boyka at Pace School, but they were more interested in flirting with a male member's of the audience at both locations and brushed me off , rather than listening to a complaint by a homeowner and his family who was trying to engage them in conversation. That is why I Identified myself as STRAIGHT.It gets frustrating after a while to be brushed off on different occasions.And I did call the PD and got passed along to the DB who said my complaint did not have the criteria for a follow up investigation and would not assist me in any way. I got crime stat's from a sun sentinel and miami herald reseacher and a student intern at Nova Southeast who was doing a research paper on crime in broward county in relation to crime in the southeaster US for the FBI Index. I am a Professor at Nova so I do not believe everything I read but can base an answer on the facts that are presented to myself in a logical fashion. And I do not expect anyone to guard my house. But I do expect a prompt response from the elected officials from the city on why crime has gone unchecked and you can look at any "stats " to see that is happening. Thank you LEO AFFAIRS,for letting me express my views.[/quote:1g22630o]

As a straight resident taxpayer I am very angry about the homeowners associations in this city. I moved to wilton manors 3 years ago believing all the hype that it is a diverse community open to persons of all types. What a joke. Go to Cena or wamh meeting and it is obvious who the city manager and commissioners cater to. Instead of representing all of the people, the representation is focused on a certain segment of the cities population. All these associations do is promote the present city officials instead of focusing on persons who can do the right thing for employees along with the residents. When I moved to wilton manors, things were pointed in a right direction for the future of this city. I spoke to water dept personnel , parks people and police officers. Whatever the Council did with this dillon study went terribly wrong and affected the whole city. I was aware of www.leoaffairs.com (http://www.leoaffairs.com) well before it became public in the sun-sentinel article. The complaints should be investigated and reported to the residents of this city. If not, the goverment of this city should be investigated by the " proper channels" and I am a very well respected attorney who will offer my services pro bono!

So, can anybody identify and define the issues at WMPD? Can you put them is a way such as:
Incident Description
What was wrong?
What action was needed?
Was it taken?
Results/consequences
With such a list we can start talking intelligently about facts and eventually derive potential solutions, which is ultimately what we need: solutions!

Marsman. Do you really want to go there????? You may want to ask RP because you are opening a major can of "OH S%#T". If you would like to retract your last post, let it be done. If not, I will name IN SPECIFIC DETAIL, incidents which will warrant what is said on this forum, although, that is not what I want to do. So here is your chance. Get with RP and let me know.

So, can anybody identify and define the issues at WMPD? Can you put them is a way such as:
Incident Description
What was wrong?
What action was needed?
Was it taken?
Results/consequences
With such a list we can start talking intelligently about facts and eventually derive potential solutions, which is ultimately what we need: solutions!

Marsman. Do you really want to go there????? You may want to ask RP because you are opening a major can of "OH S%#T". If you would like to retract your last post, let it be done. If not, I will name IN SPECIFIC DETAIL, incidents which will warrant what is said on this forum, although, that is not what I want to do. So here is your chance. Get with RP and let me know.

Hey, why not? It's got to start somewhere... Bring it.

So, can anybody identify and define the issues at WMPD? Can you put them is a way such as:
Incident Description
What was wrong?
What action was needed?
Was it taken?
Results/consequences
With such a list we can start talking intelligently about facts and eventually derive potential solutions, which is ultimately what we need: solutions!

Marsman. Do you really want to go there????? You may want to ask RP because you are opening a major can of "OH S%#T". If you would like to retract your last post, let it be done. If not, I will name IN SPECIFIC DETAIL, incidents which will warrant what is said on this forum, although, that is not what I want to do. So here is your chance. Get with RP and let me know.

Hey, why not? It's got to start somewhere... Bring it.

Marsman...come on, havent you figured out by now that they have no creditability.. they attack everyone, even volunteers and homeowner assoc, in the community...EVERYONE is to blame, but they take no responsiblities for themselfs or their actions...

As a straight resident taxpayer I am very angry about the homeowners associations in this city. I moved to wilton manors 3 years ago believing all the hype that it is a diverse community open to persons of all types. What a joke. Go to Cena or wamh meeting and it is obvious who the city manager and commissioners cater to. Instead of representing all of the people, the representation is focused on a certain segment of the cities population. All these associations do is promote the present city officials instead of focusing on persons who can do the right thing for employees along with the residents. When I moved to wilton manors, things were pointed in a right direction for the future of this city. I spoke to water dept personnel , parks people and police officers. Whatever the Council did with this dillon study went terribly wrong and affected the whole city. I was aware of www.leoaffairs.com (http://www.leoaffairs.com) well before it became public in the sun-sentinel article. The complaints should be investigated and reported to the residents of this city. If not, the goverment of this city should be investigated by the " proper channels" and I am a very well respected attorney who will offer my services pro bono!

well Mr atty...how did the Dillon Report affect you personally?? If you are so well respected, please tell us who you are....so we can investigate you.

[MARSman]

I am sorry everyone. I stopped taking my meds and Oh well, you have seen the results. My doctor has now insisted that I double my dosage. I have been diagnosed with RPeeees disease. The symptoms are talking crap and I also talk about things that I do not know anything about so please forgive me because I am an arse.

I am sorry everyone. I stopped taking my meds and Oh well, you have seen the results. My doctor has now insisted that I double my dosage. I have been diagnosed with RPeeees disease. The symptoms are talking crap and I also talk about things that I do not know anything about so please forgive me because I am an arse.

Wow MARSman that explains a lot. Your blogs made no sense and were irrational at times. Glad to see that you will be making a full recovery and getting back to the real world. Heard their is no cure for your disease so I hope the doctors can make you as comfortable as possible for the time you have left. Remember to take your med's and the world will be a better place for all of us.Good Day!

Marsman,
I was quite woried about you for awhile. We do accept your apology and you will find that we are a forgiving bunch if you tell the truth and play fair. Thanks again.

I am sorry everyone. I stopped taking my meds and Oh well, you have seen the results. My doctor has now insisted that I double my dosage. I have been diagnosed with RPeeees disease. The symptoms are talking crap and I also talk about things that I do not know anything about so please forgive me because I am an arse.

I am so glad that you have been diagnosed with the proper medication dosage. Many of your comments made no sense if you knew how municipal goverment really worked. Your comments about involving a member of the US Congress into the many, many internal problems of the City of Wilton Manors caused by RP, the City Manager , Mayor Scott Newton and City Commissioner's Angelo, Resnick, Galatis and Sherritt made no sense. I am sure a US Congressman is more worried about what is going on in Iraq than what is happening in the Manors. And your comment about involving a State Rep who I am sure is much more worried about resolving the tax issue in Tallahassee that curing the many, many ills that have infested Wilton Manors. But the State Attorney or really the Attornet General's Statewide Prosecutor or US Attorney for the Southern District of Florida will be involved in the proper channels as that office prosecutes persons charged with criminal or organizational misconduct. But curing your illness should be your main concern and I wish you the best.

I am sorry everyone. I stopped taking my meds and Oh well, you have seen the results. My doctor has now insisted that I double my dosage. I have been diagnosed with RPeeees disease. The symptoms are talking crap and I also talk about things that I do not know anything about so please forgive me because I am an arse.

I am so glad that you have been diagnosed with the proper medication dosage. Many of your comments made no sense if you knew how municipal goverment really worked. Your comments about involving a member of the US Congress into the many, many internal problems of the City of Wilton Manors caused by RP, the City Manager , Mayor Scott Newton and City Commissioner's Angelo, Resnick, Galatis and Sherritt made no sense. I am sure a US Congressman is more worried about what is going on in Iraq than what is happening in the Manors. And your comment about involving a State Rep w...ho I am sure is much more worried about resolving the tax issue in Tallahassee that curing the many, many ills that have infested Wilton Manors. But the State Attorney or really the Attornet General's Statewide Prosecutor or US Attorney for the Southern District of Florida will be involved in the proper channels as that office prosecutes persons charged with criminal or organizational misconduct. But curing your illness should be your main concern and I wish you the best.

SOMEONE NEEDS SOME MEDS ALRIGHT...BUT IT ISNT MARSMAN
SOMEONE HAS A WILD IMAGINATION...BUT IT ISNT MARSMAN
SOMEONE IS FULL OF CRAP ALRIGHT...BUT IT ISNT MARSMAN

BUT WE KNOW WHO IT IS...ITS YOU..OH YEA YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE :roll:

You guys are nothing short of pathetic; now you have resorted to 'steal' or 'hijack' IDs in this blog... I have to admit that it is pretty clever and creative; a good trick to discredit a legitimate trend of postings... But here is your challenge now: if you are able to distort, steal, hijack and plagiarize something as simple as my screen name in ths blog, don't you think you are losing credibility of everyone else in this blog? Do you think any WM citizen reading this will any confidence in the honorability of the WMPD? Your judgement is so clouded you don't know when you are shooting yourselves in your own foot; you idiots!

THE MEDS ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT WORKING. TRY DECAF

You guys are nothing short of pathetic; now you have resorted to 'steal' or 'hijack' IDs in this blog... I have to admit that it is pretty clever and creative; a good trick to discredit a legitimate trend of postings... But here is your challenge now: if you are able to distort, steal, hijack and plagiarize something as simple as my screen name in ths blog, don't you think you are losing credibility of everyone else in this blog? Do you think any WM citizen reading this will any confidence in the honorability of the WMPD? Your judgement is so clouded you don't know when you are shooting yourselves in your own foot; you idiots!

Maybe if you feel that way it is time to get rid of the WMPD, for good. You said it yourself, if the people have no honor in the WMPD maybe it should be replaced. If not the current leadership should, No doubt. Thank You. We will ALL be better off except for a chosen few. Right now I work with rejects of other police and sheriffs department. People who should have been put in jail.And how do you know it was a guy?What is pathetic is a City Manager, Mayor and City Commission not taking responsibilty for their actions. Oh yea lets talk to a congressman or state rep. But the State Attorney will be involved.

You guys are nothing short of pathetic; now you have resorted to 'steal' or 'hijack' IDs in this blog... I have to admit that it is pretty clever and creative; a good trick to discredit a legitimate trend of postings... But here is your challenge now: if you are able to distort, steal, hijack and plagiarize something as simple as my screen name in ths blog, don't you think you are losing credibility of everyone else in this blog? Do you think any WM citizen reading this will any confidence in the honorability of the WMPD? Your judgement is so clouded you don't know when you are shooting yourselves in your own foot; you idiots!

Maybe if you feel that way it is time to get rid of the WMPD, for good. You said it yourself, if the people have no honor in the WMPD maybe it should be replaced. If not the current leadership should, No doubt. Thank You. We will ALL be better off except for a chosen few. Right now I work with rejects of other police and sheriffs department. People who should have been put in jail.And how do you know it was a guy?What is pathetic is a City Manager, Mayor and City Commission not taking responsibilty for their actions. Oh yea lets talk to a congressman or state rep. But the State Attorney will be involved.

Wahmer has it right. Lets get rid of this police department. I want to get back to doing POLICE WORK when I report for duty, not wondering what the Chief RP will do to me today. The citizens need to realize that the majority, a great majority of cops DO NOT CARE what happens in this city anymore . The situation gets worse each day. It is not about the contract , pay or benefits anymore , it is solely about the CHIEF and his administration. Working 3/11 you interact with more citizens than any other shift because you are busier. The more people I come in contact with the more they see how disatisfied that we all are about how we are treated. Pay and benefits are one thing, but being treated as professionals are another. It is a horrible place to work and the public needs to know this. MORALE IS HORRIBLE and gets worse each day. Do not believe the City Manager, Mayor Newton or Perez. They can put a :) face on each day and say everything is fine.It is not.All we are is a highly paid security force doing the least we can do each day to get the next paycheck to "fluff" up our pensions.

You guys are nothing short of pathetic; now you have resorted to 'steal' or 'hijack' IDs in this blog... I have to admit that it is pretty clever and creative; a good trick to discredit a legitimate trend of postings... But here is your challenge now: if you are able to distort, steal, hijack and plagiarize something as simple as my screen name in ths blog, don't you think you are losing credibility of everyone else in this blog? Do you think any WM citizen reading this will any confidence in the honorability of the WMPD? Your judgement is so clouded you don't know when you are shooting yourselves in your own foot; you idiots!

Maybe if you feel that way it is time to get rid of the WMPD, for good. You said it yourself, if the people have no honor in the WMPD maybe it should be replaced. If not the current leadership should, No doubt. Thank You. We will ALL be better off except for a chosen few. Right now I work with rejects of other police and sheriffs department. People who should have been put in jail.And how do you know it was a guy?What is pathetic is a City Manager, Mayor and City Commission not taking responsibilty for their actions. Oh yea lets talk to a congressman or state rep. But the State Attorney will be involved.

Wahmer has it right. Lets get rid of this police department. I want to get back to doing POLICE WORK when I report for duty, not wondering what the Chief RP will do to me today. The citizens need to realize that the majority, a great majority of cops DO NOT CARE what happens in this city anymore . The situation gets worse each day. It is not about the contract , pay or benefits anymore , it is solely about the CHIEF and his administration. Working 3/11 you interact with more citizens than any other shift because you are busier. The more people I come in contact with the more they see how disatisfied that we all are about how we are treated. Pay and benefits are one thing, but being treated as professionals are another. It is a horrible place to work and the public needs to know this. MORALE IS HORRIBLE and gets worse each day. Do not believe the City Manager, Mayor Newton or Perez. They can put a :) face on each day and say everything is fine.It is not.All we are is a highly paid security force doing the least we can do each day to get the next paycheck to "fluff" up our pensions. So it is pretty obvious your a Wilton Manors cop. Do you tell all the people you run into on your 3/11 shift that and I quote "a great majority of cops DO NOT CARE what happens in this city anymore " and do tell them that " All we are is a highly paid security force doing the least we can do each day to get the next paycheck to "fluff" up our pensions". While I agree working for an A-hole sucks but what happen to being conscientious and diligent. If your a professional don't you owe it to the people to do the right thing regardless of how much you hate the boss or the administration. What if the mechanics for an airplane had the same sentiments you do, how would you feel. Not so safe I suspect. Why make the citizens pay because your unhappy it's not their fault. All they have done is paid their taxes and expected a proper police protection. When they voted the current adminstraion they had no idea that the result would be a demoralized police department. The citizens can't do anything about the problem you speak of until the election anyway. In essence you are stealing from every resident, you guys got your contract just do your job and wait till this chief screws up. The crap always floats to the top eventually.

Only you can control your happiness....stop blaming others, its getting really old. Take some responsibiity for your selfs..

Wahmer has it right. Lets get rid of this police department. I want to get back to doing POLICE WORK when I report for duty, not wondering what the Chief RP will do to me today. The citizens need to realize that the majority, a great majority of cops DO NOT CARE what happens in this city anymore . The situation gets worse each day. It is not about the contract , pay or benefits anymore , it is solely about the CHIEF and his administration. Working 3/11 you interact with more citizens than any other shift because you are busier. The more people I come in contact with the more they see how disatisfied that we all are about how we are treated. Pay and benefits are one thing, but being treated as professionals are another. It is a horrible place to work and the public needs to know this. MORALE IS HORRIBLE and gets worse each day. Do not believe the City Manager, Mayor Newton or Perez. They can put a face on each day and say everything is fine.It is not.All we are is a highly paid security force doing the least we can do each day to get the next paycheck to "fluff" up our pensions.


maybe you should act like a professional then,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

I'm sure guest is over exaggerating the point. But if you think anyone is going above and beyond or putting themselves in harm's way for RP you have another thing coming.
At this point we are taking reports, no proactive work. If you have been involved in law enforcement for any length of time you know that when you are “the” proactive cop you will get complaints. If you are not on the “team” you will get hammered from IA (RP’s friend from FLPD). Who is going to jeopardize their career for him?
When he leaves (and is not replaced by someone with the commissions current agenda) or BSO takes over you will have an outstanding agency.

Wahmer has it right. Lets get rid of this police department. I want to get back to doing POLICE WORK when I report for duty, not wondering what the Chief RP will do to me today. The citizens need to realize that the majority, a great majority of cops DO NOT CARE what happens in this city anymore . The situation gets worse each day. It is not about the contract , pay or benefits anymore , it is solely about the CHIEF and his administration. Working 3/11 you interact with more citizens than any other shift because you are busier. The more people I come in contact with the more they see how disatisfied that we all are about how we are treated. Pay and benefits are one thing, but being treated as professionals are another. It is a horrible place to work and the public needs to know this. MORALE IS HORRIBLE and gets worse each day. Do not believe the City Manager, Mayor Newton or Perez. They can put a face on each day and say everything is fine.It is not.All we are is a highly paid security force doing the least we can do each day to get the next paycheck to "fluff" up our pensions.


maybe you should act like a professional then,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

We WERE professionals until RP & DS came riding into town. To try not to sink to the levels but sometime you just can't avoid it. When you are beat down each day by this administration, both in the PD & City, your frustrations reach a point of not caring what happens when you have no support. Then when you see the caliber of people they are hiring as replacement it just adds to the frustrations both in the station and at home. And that is really scary.

[MARSman]

OK. I am ready to post. I just took my meds and I am REALLY feeling REALLY good :D
I agree with you EXPO!!! RP and DS need to go although DS looks as if she is bailing out of the sinking ship already.

OK. I am ready to post. I just took my meds and I am REALLY feeling REALLY good :D
I agree with you EXPO!!! RP and DS need to go although DS looks as if she is bailing out of the sinking ship already.

When will they go. The COMMISSION needs to take action immediatly and replace RP. The John Denver look alike is going to be gone soon and not a minute to soon. That is okay because she contributed nothing to the betterment of this police departemt. Rocky Mountain High Colorado.....

Just like that DS is gone for three months? Leave of absence? Hmmm a little fishy is you ask me. And the best part is she never said anything I understand. Well another one that just sits around and tries to look the part as does RP and his secretarial staff, EC and his bedbuddy and a few of those paper pushers up front. Well at least they are getting rid of a few dead weights there though but who is next do you think?? Hire, keep them around a few months and then hit the road. How about find out what they are able to do in the first 90 days before you waste our time and safety please!

Just like that DS is gone for three months? Leave of absence? Hmmm a little fishy is you ask me. And the best part is she never said anything I understand. Well another one that just sits around and tries to look the part as does RP and his secretarial staff, EC and his bedbuddy and a few of those paper pushers up front. Well at least they are getting rid of a few dead weights there though but who is next do you think?? Hire, keep them around a few months and then hit the road. How about find out what they are able to do in the first 90 days before you waste our time and safety please!

Funny when a officer tried to take a leave of absence last year for personal reasons, he was DENIED by the Chief & HR because the City did not grant leaves. I guess now it's who you know and you you bl..

The poor low life that has hijaked my MARSman ID has proven to be of so little stature that they had to resort to this trick to try and silence me... What a joke you guys are...

There are no serious LEO writing here; there seems to be only a small band of disgruntal ex-cops who were found out, kicked out and now have no other recourse but to spill their little sour gutts here...

What a shame you must be to real cops when they read this...

Trust me Mars... I know for sure I'm not an ex cop and I only say what's being done. That is true how some get special favors when other don't. I am not an ex employee of the city of WM. I see what goes on and who gets and who doesn't get. So if you think it's just ex employees you're fooled. Wake up and see what the hell is going on around your or are you afraid to come out of your office???? [/i]

Trust me Mars... I know for sure I'm not an ex cop and I only say what's being done. That is true how some get special favors when other don't. I am not an ex employee of the city of WM. I see what goes on and who gets and who doesn't get. So if you think it's just ex employees you're fooled. Wake up and see what the hell is going on around your or are you afraid to come out of your office???? [/i]
Listen: if you are an employee of the city, or if you are a WMPD cop, you know there has got to be ways to level a complaint, legitimately, and via PROPER CHANNELS, where RP does not need to know; if the complaint is deemed legitimate and with merits and is taken seriousy, he will be eventually notified so he can respond. I cannot believe that, in this day and age, there exists a 'business' - public or private - that does not provide for employees the ability to file a grievance protecting them properly from retaliation... That is simply not true! What seems to be absent and non-existent is enough character to do it! It is easier to hide here, right?

[quote="Amazed again":1w250cmb]Trust me Mars... I know for sure I'm not an ex cop and I only say what's being done. That is true how some get special favors when other don't. I am not an ex employee of the city of WM. I see what goes on and who gets and who doesn't get. So if you think it's just ex employees you're fooled. Wake up and see what the hell is going on around your or are you afraid to come out of your office???? [/i]
Listen: if you are an employee of the city, or if you are a WMPD cop, you know there has got to be ways to level a complaint, legitimately, and via PROPER CHANNELS, where RP does not need to know; if the complaint is deemed legitimate and with merits and is taken seriousy, he will be eventually notified so he can respond. I cannot believe that, in this day and age, there exists a 'business' - public or private - that does not provide for employees the ability to file a grievance protecting them properly from retaliation... That is simply not true! What seems to be absent and non-existent is enough character to do it! It is easier to hide here, right?[/quote:1w250cmb]

NO You are quite wrong. There are many instances where you can be punished and retaliated against without any recourse. Why do you insist that you know something about this when you do not.
For arguments sake, lets assume I am right and you are wrong. What then is a WMPD cop to do if he/she has no recourse for the way he/she or his/her brother officer is treated. Proper channels would have been used TRUST ME if they were available.

[quote="MARSman-again":3880ac2f][quote="Amazed again":3880ac2f]Trust me Mars... I know for sure I'm not an ex cop and I only say what's being done. That is true how some get special favors when other don't. I am not an ex employee of the city of WM. I see what goes on and who gets and who doesn't get. So if you think it's just ex employees you're fooled. Wake up and see what the hell is going on around your or are you afraid to come out of your office???? [/i]
Listen: if you are an employee of the city, or if you are a WMPD cop, you know there has got to be ways to level a complaint, legitimately, and via PROPER CHANNELS, where RP does not need to know; if the complaint is deemed legitimate and with merits and is taken seriousy, he will be eventually notified so he can respond. I cannot believe that, in this day and age, there exists a 'business' - public or private - that does not provide for employees the ability to file a grievance protecting them properly from retaliation... That is simply not true! What seems to be absent and non-existent is enough character to do it! It is easier to hide here, right?[/quote:3880ac2f]

NO You are quite wrong. There are many instances where you can be punished and retaliated against without any recourse. Why do you insist that you know something about this when you do not.
For arguments sake, lets assume I am right and you are wrong. What then is a WMPD cop to do if he/she has no recourse for the way he/she or his/her brother officer is treated. Proper channels would have been used TRUST ME if they were available.[/quote:3880ac2f]

I disagree... There's got to be ways... I am willing to bet you anything that, if I you go to either the FLD (Florida Department of Labor) of the USDL (United States Department of Labor), they would give you mirriads of instruments you, or any grieving employee, could use aptly to level a complaint. Don't tell me that in this nation, there are instances of repressed labor without recourse; that is absolute nonsense!

What happens is that it is a lot easier to write all we want in this blog, no risks taken, while things are really not too bad (as some others said salary and benefits are not an issue), but we have a belly ache we need to vent on, or an itch we need to scratch, therefore, we write...

[MARSman]

Blaaaaaa Blaaaaaaaaaaaaa Blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Blaaaaaaaaaaa

[quote="Just listen":2y3ywfm7][quote="MARSman-again":2y3ywfm7][quote="Amazed again":2y3ywfm7]Trust me Mars... I know for sure I'm not an ex cop and I only say what's being done. That is true how some get special favors when other don't. I am not an ex employee of the city of WM. I see what goes on and who gets and who doesn't get. So if you think it's just ex employees you're fooled. Wake up and see what the hell is going on around your or are you afraid to come out of your office???? [/i]
Listen: if you are an employee of the city, or if you are a WMPD cop, you know there has got to be ways to level a complaint, legitimately, and via PROPER CHANNELS, where RP does not need to know; if the complaint is deemed legitimate and with merits and is taken seriousy, he will be eventually notified so he can respond. I cannot believe that, in this day and age, there exists a 'business' - public or private - that does not provide for employees the ability to file a grievance protecting them properly from retaliation... That is simply not true! What seems to be absent and non-existent is enough character to do it! It is easier to hide here, right?[/quote:2y3ywfm7]

NO You are quite wrong. There are many instances where you can be punished and retaliated against without any recourse. Why do you insist that you know something about this when you do not.
For arguments sake, lets assume I am right and you are wrong. What then is a WMPD cop to do if he/she has no recourse for the way he/she or his/her brother officer is treated. Proper channels would have been used TRUST ME if they were available.[/quote:2y3ywfm7]

I disagree... There's got to be ways... I am willing to bet you anything that, if I you go to either the FLD (Florida Department of Labor) of the USDL (United States Department of Labor), they would give you mirriads of instruments you, or any grieving employee, could use aptly to level a complaint. Don't tell me that in this nation, there are instances of repressed labor without recourse; that is absolute nonsense!

What happens is that it is a lot easier to write all we want in this blog, no risks taken, while things are really not too bad (as some others said salary and benefits are not an issue), but we have a belly ache we need to vent on, or an itch we need to scratch, therefore, we write...[/quote:2y3ywfm7]

SHUT UP

[quote="Just listen":36fd2a2u][quote="MARSman-again":36fd2a2u][quote="Amazed again":36fd2a2u]Trust me Mars... I know for sure I'm not an ex cop and I only say what's being done. That is true how some get special favors when other don't. I am not an ex employee of the city of WM. I see what goes on and who gets and who doesn't get. So if you think it's just ex employees you're fooled. Wake up and see what the hell is going on around your or are you afraid to come out of your office???? [/i]
Listen: if you are an employee of the city, or if you are a WMPD cop, you know there has got to be ways to level a complaint, legitimately, and via PROPER CHANNELS, where RP does not need to know; if the complaint is deemed legitimate and with merits and is taken seriousy, he will be eventually notified so he can respond. I cannot believe that, in this day and age, there exists a 'business' - public or private - that does not provide for employees the ability to file a grievance protecting them properly from retaliation... That is simply not true! What seems to be absent and non-existent is enough character to do it! It is easier to hide here, right?

NO You are quite wrong. There are many instances where you can be punished and retaliated against without any recourse. Why do you insist that you know something about this when you do not.
For arguments sake, lets assume I am right and you are wrong. What then is a WMPD cop to do if he/she has no recourse for the way he/she or his/her brother officer is treated. Proper channels would have been used TRUST ME if they were available.[/quote:36fd2a2u]

I disagree... There's got to be ways... I am willing to bet you anything that, if I you go to either the FLD (Florida Department of Labor) of the USDL (United States Department of Labor), they would give you mirriads of instruments you, or any grieving employee, could use aptly to level a complaint. Don't tell me that in this nation, there are instances of repressed labor without recourse; that is absolute nonsense!

What happens is that it is a lot easier to write all we want in this blog, no risks taken, while things are really not too bad (as some others said salary and benefits are not an issue), but we have a belly ache we need to vent on, or an itch we need to scratch, therefore, we write...[/quote:36fd2a2u]

SHUT UP[/quote:36fd2a2u]

Is this all the argument you have to make? Did I get too close to where it hurts? You Neanderthal you... I guess that for somebody with a 2 level of literacy (do you know what that means?), the 'shut up' response is the expected one... No argument; no reasoning; no facts; no evidence, no knowledge; no principles; no honor... only a blog and a keyboard to make love to...

The previous reponse was from MARSman (forgot yo put in the screen name)...

[quote="Just listen":108523zr][quote="MARSman-again":108523zr][quote="Amazed again":108523zr]Trust me Mars... I know for sure I'm not an ex cop and I only say what's being done. That is true how some get special favors when other don't. I am not an ex employee of the city of WM. I see what goes on and who gets and who doesn't get. So if you think it's just ex employees you're fooled. Wake up and see what the hell is going on around your or are you afraid to come out of your office???? [/i]
Listen: if you are an employee of the city, or if you are a WMPD cop, you know there has got to be ways to level a complaint, legitimately, and via PROPER CHANNELS, where RP does not need to know; if the complaint is deemed legitimate and with merits and is taken seriousy, he will be eventually notified so he can respond. I cannot believe that, in this day and age, there exists a 'business' - public or private - that does not provide for employees the ability to file a grievance protecting them properly from retaliation... That is simply not true! What seems to be absent and non-existent is enough character to do it! It is easier to hide here, right?

NO You are quite wrong. There are many instances where you can be punished and retaliated against without any recourse. Why do you insist that you know something about this when you do not.
For arguments sake, lets assume I am right and you are wrong. What then is a WMPD cop to do if he/she has no recourse for the way he/she or his/her brother officer is treated. Proper channels would have been used TRUST ME if they were available.

I disagree... There's got to be ways... I am willing to bet you anything that, if I you go to either the FLD (Florida Department of Labor) of the USDL (United States Department of Labor), they would give you mirriads of instruments you, or any grieving employee, could use aptly to level a complaint. Don't tell me that in this nation, there are instances of repressed labor without recourse; that is absolute nonsense!

What happens is that it is a lot easier to write all we want in this blog, no risks taken, while things are really not too bad (as some others said salary and benefits are not an issue), but we have a belly ache we need to vent on, or an itch we need to scratch, therefore, we write...[/quote:108523zr]

SHUT UP[/quote:108523zr]

Is this all the argument you have to make? Did I get too close to where it hurts? You Neanderthal you... I guess that for somebody with a 2 level of literacy (do you know what that means?), the 'shut up' response is the expected one... No argument; no reasoning; no facts; no evidence, no knowledge; no principles; no honor... only a blog and a keyboard to make love to...[/quote:108523zr]

What has happend to this police department is criminal. Look at the Hallowen Nights event tonight. ALL of the officers I talked to were FORT LAUDERDALE POLICE OFFICERS. There was only ONE Wilton Manors Police Officer working the gay halloween fest. The FLPD Cops said no Wilton Manors Cops would work the detail because they are disgusted what the Mayor Scott Newton, Commissioners Joe Angelo, Ted Galatis, Gary Resnick and Craig " I have no clue" Sherritt" have done to the PD. They laughed about RP hired by WMPD after they prayed after he left FLPD. Looked at his treatment of minorities in his background file. I WORKED with this piece of garbage for many years. He had a godfather who watched over him but is now sorry he did because he thought perez was a cop, not a knife thrower and for those who worked for FLPD you know what I mean. Rememer the CB incident, you piece of scum. I will NEVER forget.

[quote="Just listen":8143ixoc][quote="MARSman-again":8143ixoc][quote="Amazed again":8143ixoc]Trust me Mars... I know for sure I'm not an ex cop and I only say what's being done. That is true how some get special favors when other don't. I am not an ex employee of the city of WM. I see what goes on and who gets and who doesn't get. So if you think it's just ex employees you're fooled. Wake up and see what the hell is going on around your or are you afraid to come out of your office???? [/i]
Listen: if you are an employee of the city, or if you are a WMPD cop, you know there has got to be ways to level a complaint, legitimately, and via PROPER CHANNELS, where RP does not need to know; if the complaint is deemed legitimate and with merits and is taken seriousy, he will be eventually notified so he can respond. I cannot believe that, in this day and age, there exists a 'business' - public or private - that does not provide for employees the ability to file a grievance protecting them properly from retaliation... That is simply not true! What seems to be absent and non-existent is enough character to do it! It is easier to hide here, right?

NO You are quite wrong. There are many instances where you can be punished and retaliated against without any recourse. Why do you insist that you know something about this when you do not.
For arguments sake, lets assume I am right and you are wrong. What then is a WMPD cop to do if he/she has no recourse for the way he/she or his/her brother officer is treated. Proper channels would have been used TRUST ME if they were available.

I disagree... There's got to be ways... I am willing to bet you anything that, if I you go to either the FLD (Florida Department of Labor) of the USDL (United States Department of Labor), they would give you mirriads of instruments you, or any grieving employee, could use aptly to level a complaint. Don't tell me that in this nation, there are instances of repressed labor without recourse; that is absolute nonsense!

What happens is that it is a lot easier to write all we want in this blog, no risks taken, while things are really not too bad (as some others said salary and benefits are not an issue), but we have a belly ache we need to vent on, or an itch we need to scratch, therefore, we write...

SHUT UP[/quote:8143ixoc]

Is this all the argument you have to make? Did I get too close to where it hurts? You Neanderthal you... I guess that for somebody with a 2 level of literacy (do you know what that means?), the 'shut up' response is the expected one... No argument; no reasoning; no facts; no evidence, no knowledge; no principles; no honor... only a blog and a keyboard to make love to...[/quote:8143ixoc]

What has happend to this police department is criminal. Look at the Hallowen Nights event tonight. ALL of the officers I talked to were FORT LAUDERDALE POLICE OFFICERS. There was only ONE Wilton Manors Police Officer working the gay halloween fest. The FLPD Cops said no Wilton Manors Cops would work the detail because they are disgusted what the Mayor Scott Newton, Commissioners Joe Angelo, Ted Galatis, Gary Resnick and Craig " I have no clue" Sherritt" have done to the PD. They laughed about RP hired by WMPD after they prayed after he left FLPD. Looked at his treatment of minorities in his background file. I WORKED with this piece of garbage for many years. He had a godfather who watched over him but is now sorry he did because he thought perez was a cop, not a knife thrower and for those who worked for FLPD you know what I mean. Rememer the CB incident, you piece of scum. I will NEVER forget.[/quote:8143ixoc]

First maybe you need to learn how to count, or maybe the colors of the uniforms confused you. I saw at least 3 officers and the Chief (In uniform, never saw that with the last Admin)on the drive last night. Here's a thought maybe officers with childred wanted to take them out trick or treating instead of working. Also I doubt that any FLPD officers are concerned with WMPD, they are only concerned with the problems in their Dept. It was a suscessful event last night thanks to all the volunteers that worked hard to make it happen.

[quote="MARSman-again":f2zytjfl][quote="Just listen":f2zytjfl][quote="MARSman-again":f2zytjfl][quote="Amazed again":f2zytjfl]Trust me Mars... I know for sure I'm not an ex cop and I only say what's being done. That is true how some get special favors when other don't. I am not an ex employee of the city of WM. I see what goes on and who gets and who doesn't get. So if you think it's just ex employees you're fooled. Wake up and see what the hell is going on around your or are you afraid to come out of your office???? [/i]
Listen: if you are an employee of the city, or if you are a WMPD cop, you know there has got to be ways to level a complaint, legitimately, and via PROPER CHANNELS, where RP does not need to know; if the complaint is deemed legitimate and with merits and is taken seriousy, he will be eventually notified so he can respond. I cannot believe that, in this day and age, there exists a 'business' - public or private - that does not provide for employees the ability to file a grievance protecting them properly from retaliation... That is simply not true! What seems to be absent and non-existent is enough character to do it! It is easier to hide here, right?

NO You are quite wrong. There are many instances where you can be punished and retaliated against without any recourse. Why do you insist that you know something about this when you do not.
For arguments sake, lets assume I am right and you are wrong. What then is a WMPD cop to do if he/she has no recourse for the way he/she or his/her brother officer is treated. Proper channels would have been used TRUST ME if they were available.

I disagree... There's got to be ways... I am willing to bet you anything that, if I you go to either the FLD (Florida Department of Labor) of the USDL (United States Department of Labor), they would give you mirriads of instruments you, or any grieving employee, could use aptly to level a complaint. Don't tell me that in this nation, there are instances of repressed labor without recourse; that is absolute nonsense!

What happens is that it is a lot easier to write all we want in this blog, no risks taken, while things are really not too bad (as some others said salary and benefits are not an issue), but we have a belly ache we need to vent on, or an itch we need to scratch, therefore, we write...

SHUT UP[/quote:f2zytjfl]

Is this all the argument you have to make? Did I get too close to where it hurts? You Neanderthal you... I guess that for somebody with a 2 level of literacy (do you know what that means?), the 'shut up' response is the expected one... No argument; no reasoning; no facts; no evidence, no knowledge; no principles; no honor... only a blog and a keyboard to make love to...[/quote:f2zytjfl]

What has happend to this police department is criminal. Look at the Hallowen Nights event tonight. ALL of the officers I talked to were FORT LAUDERDALE POLICE OFFICERS. There was only ONE Wilton Manors Police Officer working the gay halloween fest. The FLPD Cops said no Wilton Manors Cops would work the detail because they are disgusted what the Mayor Scott Newton, Commissioners Joe Angelo, Ted Galatis, Gary Resnick and Craig " I have no clue" Sherritt" have done to the PD. They laughed about RP hired by WMPD after they prayed after he left FLPD. Looked at his treatment of minorities in his background file. I WORKED with this piece of garbage for many years. He had a godfather who watched over him but is now sorry he did because he thought perez was a cop, not a knife thrower and for those who worked for FLPD you know what I mean. Rememer the CB incident, you piece of scum. I will NEVER forget.[/quote:f2zytjfl]

First maybe you need to learn how to count, or maybe the colors of the uniforms confused you. I saw at least 3 officers and the Chief (In uniform, never saw that with the last Admin)on the drive last night. Here's a thought maybe officers with childred wanted to take them out trick or treating instead of working. Also I doubt that any FLPD officers are concerned with WMPD, they are only concerned with the problems in their Dept. It was a suscessful event last night thanks to all the volunteers that worked hard to make it happen.[/quote:f2zytjfl]

Here's a thought, maybe under the past admin the Chief didn't have to work such an event because there were enough officers to handle it. The Chief is an ADMINISTRATOR and shouldn't have to work such an event.

heres a thought, someone hit a nerve..touchy touchy!! Maybe he was there because he wanted to be,,,,we had plenty of officers!

heres a thought, someone hit a nerve..touchy touchy!! Maybe he was there because he wanted to be,,,,we had plenty of officers!

I'll admit, you definitely hit a nerve. I have nothing bad to say about Chief Wiz and will always defend him.

If the current Chief was only there because he wanted to be; that's great, but you have no justification to knock the former Chief. A halloween event isn't something the Chief should be expected to attend.

[quote="MARSman-again":2o3wicwg][quote="Just listen":2o3wicwg][quote="MARSman-again":2o3wicwg][quote="Amazed again":2o3wicwg]Trust me Mars... I know for sure I'm not an ex cop and I only say what's being done. That is true how some get special favors when other don't. I am not an ex employee of the city of WM. I see what goes on and who gets and who doesn't get. So if you think it's just ex employees you're fooled. Wake up and see what the hell is going on around your or are you afraid to come out of your office???? [/i]
Listen: if you are an employee of the city, or if you are a WMPD cop, you know there has got to be ways to level a complaint, legitimately, and via PROPER CHANNELS, where RP does not need to know; if the complaint is deemed legitimate and with merits and is taken seriousy, he will be eventually notified so he can respond. I cannot believe that, in this day and age, there exists a 'business' - public or private - that does not provide for employees the ability to file a grievance protecting them properly from retaliation... That is simply not true! What seems to be absent and non-existent is enough character to do it! It is easier to hide here, right?

NO You are quite wrong. There are many instances where you can be punished and retaliated against without any recourse. Why do you insist that you know something about this when you do not.
For arguments sake, lets assume I am right and you are wrong. What then is a WMPD cop to do if he/she has no recourse for the way he/she or his/her brother officer is treated. Proper channels would have been used TRUST ME if they were available.

I disagree... There's got to be ways... I am willing to bet you anything that, if I you go to either the FLD (Florida Department of Labor) of the USDL (United States Department of Labor), they would give you mirriads of instruments you, or any grieving employee, could use aptly to level a complaint. Don't tell me that in this nation, there are instances of repressed labor without recourse; that is absolute nonsense!

What happens is that it is a lot easier to write all we want in this blog, no risks taken, while things are really not too bad (as some others said salary and benefits are not an issue), but we have a belly ache we need to vent on, or an itch we need to scratch, therefore, we write...

SHUT UP[/quote:2o3wicwg]

Is this all the argument you have to make? Did I get too close to where it hurts? You Neanderthal you... I guess that for somebody with a 2 level of literacy (do you know what that means?), the 'shut up' response is the expected one... No argument; no reasoning; no facts; no evidence, no knowledge; no principles; no honor... only a blog and a keyboard to make love to...[/quote:2o3wicwg]

What has happend to this police department is criminal. Look at the Hallowen Nights event tonight. ALL of the officers I talked to were FORT LAUDERDALE POLICE OFFICERS. There was only ONE Wilton Manors Police Officer working the gay halloween fest. The FLPD Cops said no Wilton Manors Cops would work the detail because they are disgusted what the Mayor Scott Newton, Commissioners Joe Angelo, Ted Galatis, Gary Resnick and Craig " I have no clue" Sherritt" have done to the PD. They laughed about RP hired by WMPD after they prayed after he left FLPD. Looked at his treatment of minorities in his background file. I WORKED with this piece of garbage for many years. He had a godfather who watched over him but is now sorry he did because he thought perez was a cop, not a knife thrower and for those who worked for FLPD you know what I mean. Rememer the CB incident, you piece of scum. I will NEVER forget.[/quote:2o3wicwg]

First maybe you need to learn how to count, or maybe the colors of the uniforms confused you. I saw at least 3 officers and the Chief (In uniform, never saw that with the last Admin)on the drive last night. Here's a thought maybe officers with childred wanted to take them out trick or treating instead of working. Also I doubt that any FLPD officers are concerned with WMPD, they are only concerned with the problems in their Dept. It was a suscessful event last night thanks to all the volunteers that worked hard to make it happen.[/quote:2o3wicwg]

childred???
What’s that???
Is that the term GG and his boy toy use for children???
They have little childred's??????
If that is the case, congratulations on the birth (or whatever the case).

somehow I think that was a typo....but whatever floats your boat.

[quote="MARSman-again":3mgya1qp][quote="Just listen":3mgya1qp][quote="MARSman-again":3mgya1qp][quote="Amazed again":3mgya1qp]Trust me Mars... I know for sure I'm not an ex cop and I only say what's being done. That is true how some get special favors when other don't. I am not an ex employee of the city of WM. I see what goes on and who gets and who doesn't get. So if you think it's just ex employees you're fooled. Wake up and see what the hell is going on around your or are you afraid to come out of your office???? [/i]
Listen: if you are an employee of the city, or if you are a WMPD cop, you know there has got to be ways to level a complaint, legitimately, and via PROPER CHANNELS, where RP does not need to know; if the complaint is deemed legitimate and with merits and is taken seriousy, he will be eventually notified so he can respond. I cannot believe that, in this day and age, there exists a 'business' - public or private - that does not provide for employees the ability to file a grievance protecting them properly from retaliation... That is simply not true! What seems to be absent and non-existent is enough character to do it! It is easier to hide here, right?

NO You are quite wrong. There are many instances where you can be punished and retaliated against without any recourse. Why do you insist that you know something about this when you do not.
For arguments sake, lets assume I am right and you are wrong. What then is a WMPD cop to do if he/she has no recourse for the way he/she or his/her brother officer is treated. Proper channels would have been used TRUST ME if they were available.

I disagree... There's got to be ways... I am willing to bet you anything that, if I you go to either the FLD (Florida Department of Labor) of the USDL (United States Department of Labor), they would give you mirriads of instruments you, or any grieving employee, could use aptly to level a complaint. Don't tell me that in this nation, there are instances of repressed labor without recourse; that is absolute nonsense!

What happens is that it is a lot easier to write all we want in this blog, no risks taken, while things are really not too bad (as some others said salary and benefits are not an issue), but we have a belly ache we need to vent on, or an itch we need to scratch, therefore, we write...

SHUT UP[/quote:3mgya1qp]

Is this all the argument you have to make? Did I get too close to where it hurts? You Neanderthal you... I guess that for somebody with a 2 level of literacy (do you know what that means?), the 'shut up' response is the expected one... No argument; no reasoning; no facts; no evidence, no knowledge; no principles; no honor... only a blog and a keyboard to make love to...[/quote:3mgya1qp]

What has happend to this police department is criminal. Look at the Hallowen Nights event tonight. ALL of the officers I talked to were FORT LAUDERDALE POLICE OFFICERS. There was only ONE Wilton Manors Police Officer working the gay halloween fest. The FLPD Cops said no Wilton Manors Cops would work the detail because they are disgusted what the Mayor Scott Newton, Commissioners Joe Angelo, Ted Galatis, Gary Resnick and Craig " I have no clue" Sherritt" have done to the PD. They laughed about RP hired by WMPD after they prayed after he left FLPD. Looked at his treatment of minorities in his background file. I WORKED with this piece of garbage for many years. He had a godfather who watched over him but is now sorry he did because he thought perez was a cop, not a knife thrower and for those who worked for FLPD you know what I mean. Rememer the CB incident, you piece of scum. I will NEVER forget.[/quote:3mgya1qp]

First maybe you need to learn how to count, or maybe the colors of the uniforms confused you. I saw at least 3 officers and the Chief (In uniform, never saw that with the last Admin)on the drive last night. Here's a thought maybe officers with childred wanted to take them out trick or treating instead of working. Also I doubt that any FLPD officers are concerned with WMPD, they are only concerned with the problems in their Dept. It was a suscessful event last night thanks to all the volunteers that worked hard to make it happen.[/quote:3mgya1qp]
To: Heres a thought
There were always more WMPD at those events under the previous chief. Only recently has FLPD been working them. When did you get on the scene yesterday or did you just come in from Ft Lauderdale? And the former chief did attend these type of events. RP was probably on scene to make sure no WMPD officers talked bad about him. I hear he worries about that, Is that true RP do you worry about what we say?

[quote="MARSman-again":1lncwfl6][quote="Just listen":1lncwfl6][quote="MARSman-again":1lncwfl6][quote="Amazed again":1lncwfl6]Trust me Mars... I know for sure I'm not an ex cop and I only say what's being done. That is true how some get special favors when other don't. I am not an ex employee of the city of WM. I see what goes on and who gets and who doesn't get. So if you think it's just ex employees you're fooled. Wake up and see what the hell is going on around your or are you afraid to come out of your office???? [/i]
Listen: if you are an employee of the city, or if you are a WMPD cop, you know there has got to be ways to level a complaint, legitimately, and via PROPER CHANNELS, where RP does not need to know; if the complaint is deemed legitimate and with merits and is taken seriousy, he will be eventually notified so he can respond. I cannot believe that, in this day and age, there exists a 'business' - public or private - that does not provide for employees the ability to file a grievance protecting them properly from retaliation... That is simply not true! What seems to be absent and non-existent is enough character to do it! It is easier to hide here, right?

NO You are quite wrong. There are many instances where you can be punished and retaliated against without any recourse. Why do you insist that you know something about this when you do not.
For arguments sake, lets assume I am right and you are wrong. What then is a WMPD cop to do if he/she has no recourse for the way he/she or his/her brother officer is treated. Proper channels would have been used TRUST ME if they were available.

I disagree... There's got to be ways... I am willing to bet you anything that, if I you go to either the FLD (Florida Department of Labor) of the USDL (United States Department of Labor), they would give you mirriads of instruments you, or any grieving employee, could use aptly to level a complaint. Don't tell me that in this nation, there are instances of repressed labor without recourse; that is absolute nonsense!

What happens is that it is a lot easier to write all we want in this blog, no risks taken, while things are really not too bad (as some others said salary and benefits are not an issue), but we have a belly ache we need to vent on, or an itch we need to scratch, therefore, we write...

SHUT UP

Is this all the argument you have to make? Did I get too close to where it hurts? You Neanderthal you... I guess that for somebody with a 2 level of literacy (do you know what that means?), the 'shut up' response is the expected one... No argument; no reasoning; no facts; no evidence, no knowledge; no principles; no honor... only a blog and a keyboard to make love to...[/quote:1lncwfl6]

What has happend to this police department is criminal. Look at the Hallowen Nights event tonight. ALL of the officers I talked to were FORT LAUDERDALE POLICE OFFICERS. There was only ONE Wilton Manors Police Officer working the gay halloween fest. The FLPD Cops said no Wilton Manors Cops would work the detail because they are disgusted what the Mayor Scott Newton, Commissioners Joe Angelo, Ted Galatis, Gary Resnick and Craig " I have no clue" Sherritt" have done to the PD. They laughed about RP hired by WMPD after they prayed after he left FLPD. Looked at his treatment of minorities in his background file. I WORKED with this piece of garbage for many years. He had a godfather who watched over him but is now sorry he did because he thought perez was a cop, not a knife thrower and for those who worked for FLPD you know what I mean. Rememer the CB incident, you piece of scum. I will NEVER forget.[/quote:1lncwfl6]

First maybe you need to learn how to count, or maybe the colors of the uniforms confused you. I saw at least 3 officers and the Chief (In uniform, never saw that with the last Admin)on the drive last night. Here's a thought maybe officers with childred wanted to take them out trick or treating instead of working. Also I doubt that any FLPD officers are concerned with WMPD, they are only concerned with the problems in their Dept. It was a suscessful event last night thanks to all the volunteers that worked hard to make it happen.[/quote:1lncwfl6]
To: Heres a thought
There were always more WMPD at those events under the previous chief. Only recently has FLPD been working them. When did you get on the scene yesterday or did you just come in from Ft Lauderdale? And the former chief did attend these type of events. RP was probably on scene to make sure no WMPD officers talked bad about him. I hear he worries about that, Is that true RP do you worry about what we say?[/quote:1lncwfl6]

Oh yeah! You hit the nail on the very head! The chief worries sick about what is written here; as a matter of fact, he does not sleep or eat worrying about this blog. His friends are avoiding him because the only topic of conversation he has anymore is this blog... Oh yeah... Get a grip, you faceless and spineless losers; come out from under the rocks you crawled in and realize that neither this nor any other unofficial rumors/innuendoes/gossips like this have any impact on WMPD or City business, at all!

[quote="Anonymous":3iar4b96][quote="MARSman-again":3iar4b96][quote="Just listen":3iar4b96][quote="MARSman-again":3iar4b96][quote="Amazed again":3iar4b96]Trust me Mars... I know for sure I'm not an ex cop and I only say what's being done. That is true how some get special favors when other don't. I am not an ex employee of the city of WM. I see what goes on and who gets and who doesn't get. So if you think it's just ex employees you're fooled. Wake up and see what the hell is going on around your or are you afraid to come out of your office???? [/i]
Listen: if you are an employee of the city, or if you are a WMPD cop, you know there has got to be ways to level a complaint, legitimately, and via PROPER CHANNELS, where RP does not need to know; if the complaint is deemed legitimate and with merits and is taken seriousy, he will be eventually notified so he can respond. I cannot believe that, in this day and age, there exists a 'business' - public or private - that does not provide for employees the ability to file a grievance protecting them properly from retaliation... That is simply not true! What seems to be absent and non-existent is enough character to do it! It is easier to hide here, right?

NO You are quite wrong. There are many instances where you can be punished and retaliated against without any recourse. Why do you insist that you know something about this when you do not.
For arguments sake, lets assume I am right and you are wrong. What then is a WMPD cop to do if he/she has no recourse for the way he/she or his/her brother officer is treated. Proper channels would have been used TRUST ME if they were available.

I disagree... There's got to be ways... I am willing to bet you anything that, if I you go to either the FLD (Florida Department of Labor) of the USDL (United States Department of Labor), they would give you mirriads of instruments you, or any grieving employee, could use aptly to level a complaint. Don't tell me that in this nation, there are instances of repressed labor without recourse; that is absolute nonsense!

What happens is that it is a lot easier to write all we want in this blog, no risks taken, while things are really not too bad (as some others said salary and benefits are not an issue), but we have a belly ache we need to vent on, or an itch we need to scratch, therefore, we write...

SHUT UP

Is this all the argument you have to make? Did I get too close to where it hurts? You Neanderthal you... I guess that for somebody with a 2 level of literacy (do you know what that means?), the 'shut up' response is the expected one... No argument; no reasoning; no facts; no evidence, no knowledge; no principles; no honor... only a blog and a keyboard to make love to...[/quote:3iar4b96]

What has happend to this police department is criminal. Look at the Hallowen Nights event tonight. ALL of the officers I talked to were FORT LAUDERDALE POLICE OFFICERS. There was only ONE Wilton Manors Police Officer working the gay halloween fest. The FLPD Cops said no Wilton Manors Cops would work the detail because they are disgusted what the Mayor Scott Newton, Commissioners Joe Angelo, Ted Galatis, Gary Resnick and Craig " I have no clue" Sherritt" have done to the PD. They laughed about RP hired by WMPD after they prayed after he left FLPD. Looked at his treatment of minorities in his background file. I WORKED with this piece of garbage for many years. He had a godfather who watched over him but is now sorry he did because he thought perez was a cop, not a knife thrower and for those who worked for FLPD you know what I mean. Rememer the CB incident, you piece of scum. I will NEVER forget.[/quote:3iar4b96]

First maybe you need to learn how to count, or maybe the colors of the uniforms confused you. I saw at least 3 officers and the Chief (In uniform, never saw that with the last Admin)on the drive last night. Here's a thought maybe officers with childred wanted to take them out trick or treating instead of working. Also I doubt that any FLPD officers are concerned with WMPD, they are only concerned with the problems in their Dept. It was a suscessful event last night thanks to all the volunteers that worked hard to make it happen.[/quote:3iar4b96]
To: Heres a thought
There were always more WMPD at those events under the previous chief. Only recently has FLPD been working them. When did you get on the scene yesterday or did you just come in from Ft Lauderdale? And the former chief did attend these type of events. RP was probably on scene to make sure no WMPD officers talked bad about him. I hear he worries about that, Is that true RP do you worry about what we say?[/quote:3iar4b96]

Oh yeah! You hit the nail on the very head! The chief worries sick about what is written here; as a matter of fact, he does not sleep or eat worrying about this blog. His friends are avoiding him because the only topic of conversation he has anymore is this blog... Oh yeah... Get a grip, you faceless and spineless losers; come out from under the rocks you crawled in and realize that neither this nor any other unofficial rumors/innuendoes/gossips like this have any impact on WMPD or City business, at all![/quote:3iar4b96]

WOW
That one guest asking if RP worries about what is said here hit a nerve dead on. That might have even been RP himself replying to it. Careful boys and girls, we might just be dealing with an emotional powder keg here.

[quote="Anonymous":36o951jh][quote="MARSman-again":36o951jh][quote="Just listen":36o951jh][quote="MARSman-again":36o951jh][quote="Amazed again":36o951jh]Trust me Mars... I know for sure I'm not an ex cop and I only say what's being done. That is true how some get special favors when other don't. I am not an ex employee of the city of WM. I see what goes on and who gets and who doesn't get. So if you think it's just ex employees you're fooled. Wake up and see what the hell is going on around your or are you afraid to come out of your office???? [/i]
Listen: if you are an employee of the city, or if you are a WMPD cop, you know there has got to be ways to level a complaint, legitimately, and via PROPER CHANNELS, where RP does not need to know; if the complaint is deemed legitimate and with merits and is taken seriousy, he will be eventually notified so he can respond. I cannot believe that, in this day and age, there exists a 'business' - public or private - that does not provide for employees the ability to file a grievance protecting them properly from retaliation... That is simply not true! What seems to be absent and non-existent is enough character to do it! It is easier to hide here, right?

NO You are quite wrong. There are many instances where you can be punished and retaliated against without any recourse. Why do you insist that you know something about this when you do not.
For arguments sake, lets assume I am right and you are wrong. What then is a WMPD cop to do if he/she has no recourse for the way he/she or his/her brother officer is treated. Proper channels would have been used TRUST ME if they were available.

I disagree... There's got to be ways... I am willing to bet you anything that, if I you go to either the FLD (Florida Department of Labor) of the USDL (United States Department of Labor), they would give you mirriads of instruments you, or any grieving employee, could use aptly to level a complaint. Don't tell me that in this nation, there are instances of repressed labor without recourse; that is absolute nonsense!

What happens is that it is a lot easier to write all we want in this blog, no risks taken, while things are really not too bad (as some others said salary and benefits are not an issue), but we have a belly ache we need to vent on, or an itch we need to scratch, therefore, we write...

SHUT UP

Is this all the argument you have to make? Did I get too close to where it hurts? You Neanderthal you... I guess that for somebody with a 2 level of literacy (do you know what that means?), the 'shut up' response is the expected one... No argument; no reasoning; no facts; no evidence, no knowledge; no principles; no honor... only a blog and a keyboard to make love to...[/quote:36o951jh]

What has happend to this police department is criminal. Look at the Hallowen Nights event tonight. ALL of the officers I talked to were FORT LAUDERDALE POLICE OFFICERS. There was only ONE Wilton Manors Police Officer working the gay halloween fest. The FLPD Cops said no Wilton Manors Cops would work the detail because they are disgusted what the Mayor Scott Newton, Commissioners Joe Angelo, Ted Galatis, Gary Resnick and Craig " I have no clue" Sherritt" have done to the PD. They laughed about RP hired by WMPD after they prayed after he left FLPD. Looked at his treatment of minorities in his background file. I WORKED with this piece of garbage for many years. He had a godfather who watched over him but is now sorry he did because he thought perez was a cop, not a knife thrower and for those who worked for FLPD you know what I mean. Rememer the CB incident, you piece of scum. I will NEVER forget.[/quote:36o951jh]

First maybe you need to learn how to count, or maybe the colors of the uniforms confused you. I saw at least 3 officers and the Chief (In uniform, never saw that with the last Admin)on the drive last night. Here's a thought maybe officers with childred wanted to take them out trick or treating instead of working. Also I doubt that any FLPD officers are concerned with WMPD, they are only concerned with the problems in their Dept. It was a suscessful event last night thanks to all the volunteers that worked hard to make it happen.[/quote:36o951jh]
To: Heres a thought
There were always more WMPD at those events under the previous chief. Only recently has FLPD been working them. When did you get on the scene yesterday or did you just come in from Ft Lauderdale? And the former chief did attend these type of events. RP was probably on scene to make sure no WMPD officers talked bad about him. I hear he worries about that, Is that true RP do you worry about what we say?[/quote:36o951jh]

Oh yeah! You hit the nail on the very head! The chief worries sick about what is written here; as a matter of fact, he does not sleep or eat worrying about this blog. His friends are avoiding him because the only topic of conversation he has anymore is this blog... Oh yeah... Get a grip, you faceless and spineless losers; come out from under the rocks you crawled in and realize that neither this nor any other unofficial rumors/innuendoes/gossips like this have any impact on WMPD or City business, at all![/quote:36o951jh]

Oh now you are going to ruin their weekend....they think people are really listening to all this and believing it...they just keeping throwing stuff out there waiting to see if someone bites...if not they move on to something else. Apparently we arent suppose to notice that. This has NO IMPACT on anything happening in the great city of WM.

Oh now you are going to ruin their weekend....they think people are really listening to all this and believing it...they just keeping throwing stuff out there waiting to see if someone bites...if not they move on to something else. Apparently we arent suppose to notice that. This has NO IMPACT on anything happening in the great city of WM.


Just exactly who are you talking to. If this doesnt affect you, why are you here reading it and posting everyday. The people that are being talked about, one in particular, is greatly affected by this and we all know that. We should know, we work here remember! We know it doesnt affect the every day working joe/jane working for the city side....WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THEM AND THEY KNOW IT! Dont you think they are chuckling under their breath and urging us on to post?
So either you are not being honest (read lying) or YOU are one of the people being talked about on here. So have a good weekend, save up your energy..We'll see you here next week.

Oh now you are going to ruin their weekend....they think people are really listening to all this and believing it...they just keeping throwing stuff out there waiting to see if someone bites...if not they move on to something else. Apparently we arent suppose to notice that. This has NO IMPACT on anything happening in the great city of WM.


Just exactly who are you talking to. If this doesnt affect you, why are you here reading it and posting everyday. The people that are being talked about, one in particular, is greatly affected by this and we all know that. We should know, we work here remember! We know it doesnt affect the every day working joe/jane working for the city side....WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THEM AND THEY KNOW IT! Dont you think they are chuckling under their breath and urging us on to post?
So either you are not being honest (read lying) or YOU are one of the people being talked about on here. So have a good weekend, save up your energy..We'll see you here next week.

I am not cop but I work at a company that does business with the police finance dept and city finance department. In talking to several regular city workers at Red's, they and their co-workers cannot wait to see what is posted each day about the police department and the negative stuff on the chief ( whom they seem to dislike) the sex stuff between a sgt and a policewoman and all the other tidbits that are put on. I honestly do not recall them even mentioning their workers on the site but I know a lot of city workers and would be curious to see where it is. Thank You

Oh now you are going to ruin their weekend....they think people are really listening to all this and believing it...they just keeping throwing stuff out there waiting to see if someone bites...if not they move on to something else. Apparently we arent suppose to notice that. This has NO IMPACT on anything happening in the great city of WM.


Just exactly who are you talking to. If this doesnt affect you, why are you here reading it and posting everyday. The people that are being talked about, one in particular, is greatly affected by this and we all know that. We should know, we work here remember! We know it doesnt affect the every day working joe/jane working for the city side....WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THEM AND THEY KNOW IT! Dont you think they are chuckling under their breath and urging us on to post?
So either you are not being honest (read lying) or YOU are one of the people being talked about on here. So have a good weekend, save up your energy..We'll see you here next week.

I am not cop but I work at a company that does business with the police finance dept and city finance department. In talking to several regular city workers at Red's, they and their co-workers cannot wait to see what is posted each day about the police department and the negative stuff on the chief ( whom they seem to dislike) the sex stuff between a sgt and a policewoman and all the other tidbits that are put on. I honestly do not recall them even mentioning their workers on the site but I know a lot of city workers and would be curious to see where it is. Thank You

Just left Red's. These threads or blogs are the topic of conversation among anyone connected to the city. Love the sex affair stuff with EC and KJ ?The other part of the conversations were the new gay characters on desperate housewives? Go figure this city out.

Oh now you are going to ruin their weekend....they think people are really listening to all this and believing it...they just keeping throwing stuff out there waiting to see if someone bites...if not they move on to something else. Apparently we arent suppose to notice that. This has NO IMPACT on anything happening in the great city of WM.[quote]

Just exactly who are you talking to. If this doesnt affect you, why are you here reading it and posting everyday. The people that are being talked about, one in particular, is greatly affected by this and we all know that. We should know, we work here remember! We know it doesnt affect the every day working joe/jane working for the city side....WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THEM AND THEY KNOW IT! Dont you think they are chuckling under their breath and urging us on to post?
So either you are not being honest (read lying) or YOU are one of the people being talked about on here. So have a good weekend, save up your energy..We'll see you here next week.

I am not cop but I work at a company that does business with the police finance dept and city finance department. In talking to several regular city workers at Red's, they and their co-workers cannot wait to see what is posted each day about the police department and the negative stuff on the chief ( whom they seem to dislike) the sex stuff between a sgt and a policewoman and all the other tidbits that are put on. I honestly do not recall them even mentioning their workers on the site but I know a lot of city workers and would be curious to see where it is. Thank You

Just left Red's. These threads or blogs are the topic of conversation among anyone connected to the city. Love the sex affair stuff with EC and KJ ?The other part of the conversations were the new gay characters on desperate housewives? Go figure this city out.[/quote:2625i9q1]

So, what are you saying, Lealie A? On one side it may be construed some people find this amusing, the source of an ocassional chuckle, and that would be it... On the other side, it sounds like lots of people are reading this blog, following it, but not doing much else about it... Which one is closer to your observation?

Oh now you are going to ruin their weekend....they think people are really listening to all this and believing it...they just keeping throwing stuff out there waiting to see if someone bites...if not they move on to something else. Apparently we arent suppose to notice that. This has NO IMPACT on anything happening in the great city of WM.[quote]

Just exactly who are you talking to. If this doesnt affect you, why are you here reading it and posting everyday. The people that are being talked about, one in particular, is greatly affected by this and we all know that. We should know, we work here remember! We know it doesnt affect the every day working joe/jane working for the city side....WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THEM AND THEY KNOW IT! Dont you think they are chuckling under their breath and urging us on to post?
So either you are not being honest (read lying) or YOU are one of the people being talked about on here. So have a good weekend, save up your energy..We'll see you here next week.

I am not cop but I work at a company that does business with the police finance dept and city finance department. In talking to several regular city workers at Red's, they and their co-workers cannot wait to see what is posted each day about the police department and the negative stuff on the chief ( whom they seem to dislike) the sex stuff between a sgt and a policewoman and all the other tidbits that are put on. I honestly do not recall them even mentioning their workers on the site but I know a lot of city workers and would be curious to see where it is. Thank You

Just left Red's. These threads or blogs are the topic of conversation among anyone connected to the city. Love the sex affair stuff with EC and KJ ?The other part of the conversations were the new gay characters on desperate housewives? Go figure this city out.

So, what are you saying, Lealie A? On one side it may be construed some people find this amusing, the source of an ocassional chuckle, and that would be it... On the other side, it sounds like lots of people are reading this blog, following it, but not doing much else about it... Which one is closer to your observation?[/quote:jf1pdrl6]

After last nights "k" night at red's I can tell you people are following these threads and feeding information to a network of city employees so that none can be pinned down as a source of information. Over the last few months they have designed a communication network that monitors every post. Nobody is chuckling or laughing but a large number of regular city workers find these posts as a way of getting information out to the citizens. I can tell you that the city workers are looking to get a AFLCIO because of mistreatment by the city manager and city commissioners along with the personnel department. It has to do with their pensions and merit increases that were taken away.

[quote=Anonymous]Oh now you are going to ruin their weekend....they think people are really listening to all this and believing it...they just keeping throwing stuff out there waiting to see if someone bites...if not they move on to something else. Apparently we arent suppose to notice that. This has NO IMPACT on anything happening in the great city of WM.[quote]

Just exactly who are you talking to. If this doesnt affect you, why are you here reading it and posting everyday. The people that are being talked about, one in particular, is greatly affected by this and we all know that. We should know, we work here remember! We know it doesnt affect the every day working joe/jane working for the city side....WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THEM AND THEY KNOW IT! Dont you think they are chuckling under their breath and urging us on to post?
So either you are not being honest (read lying) or YOU are one of the people being talked about on here. So have a good weekend, save up your energy..We'll see you here next week.

I am not cop but I work at a company that does business with the police finance dept and city finance department. In talking to several regular city workers at Red's, they and their co-workers cannot wait to see what is posted each day about the police department and the negative stuff on the chief ( whom they seem to dislike) the sex stuff between a sgt and a policewoman and all the other tidbits that are put on. I honestly do not recall them even mentioning their workers on the site but I know a lot of city workers and would be curious to see where it is. Thank You

Just left Red's. These threads or blogs are the topic of conversation among anyone connected to the city. Love the sex affair stuff with EC and KJ ?The other part of the conversations were the new gay characters on desperate housewives? Go figure this city out.

So, what are you saying, Lealie A? On one side it may be construed some people find this amusing, the source of an ocassional chuckle, and that would be it... On the other side, it sounds like lots of people are reading this blog, following it, but not doing much else about it... Which one is closer to your observation?[/quote:2bwod7w9]

After last nights "k" night at red's I can tell you people are following these threads and feeding information to a network of city employees so that none can be pinned down as a source of information. Over the last few months they have designed a communication network that monitors every post. Nobody is chuckling or laughing but a large number of regular city workers find these posts as a way of getting information out to the citizens. I can tell you that the city workers are looking to get a AFLCIO because of mistreatment by the city manager and city commissioners along with the personnel department. It has to do with their pensions and merit increases that were taken away.[/quote:2bwod7w9]

Leslie..have another drink!!! City workers dont care about the Police Dept..they are tired of all the wining like everyone else...cheers!!!

I agree. Lets GIVE them to BSO and we wont have to listen to them whine anymore.

BSO BSO BSO

[quote=Anonymous]Oh now you are going to ruin their weekend....they think people are really listening to all this and believing it...they just keeping throwing stuff out there waiting to see if someone bites...if not they move on to something else. Apparently we arent suppose to notice that. This has NO IMPACT on anything happening in the great city of WM.[quote]

Just exactly who are you talking to. If this doesnt affect you, why are you here reading it and posting everyday. The people that are being talked about, one in particular, is greatly affected by this and we all know that. We should know, we work here remember! We know it doesnt affect the every day working joe/jane working for the city side....WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THEM AND THEY KNOW IT! Dont you think they are chuckling under their breath and urging us on to post?
So either you are not being honest (read lying) or YOU are one of the people being talked about on here. So have a good weekend, save up your energy..We'll see you here next week.

I am not cop but I work at a company that does business with the police finance dept and city finance department. In talking to several regular city workers at Red's, they and their co-workers cannot wait to see what is posted each day about the police department and the negative stuff on the chief ( whom they seem to dislike) the sex stuff between a sgt and a policewoman and all the other tidbits that are put on. I honestly do not recall them even mentioning their workers on the site but I know a lot of city workers and would be curious to see where it is. Thank You

Just left Red's. These threads or blogs are the topic of conversation among anyone connected to the city. Love the sex affair stuff with EC and KJ ?The other part of the conversations were the new gay characters on desperate housewives? Go figure this city out.

So, what are you saying, Lealie A? On one side it may be construed some people find this amusing, the source of an ocassional chuckle, and that would be it... On the other side, it sounds like lots of people are reading this blog, following it, but not doing much else about it... Which one is closer to your observation?[/quote:29yzr85c]

After last nights "k" night at red's I can tell you people are following these threads and feeding information to a network of city employees so that none can be pinned down as a source of information. Over the last few months they have designed a communication network that monitors every post. Nobody is chuckling or laughing but a large number of regular city workers find these posts as a way of getting information out to the citizens. I can tell you that the city workers are looking to get a AFLCIO because of mistreatment by the city manager and city commissioners along with the personnel department. It has to do with their pensions and merit increases that were taken away.[/quote:29yzr85c]

And can you tell, Leslie A, how much of this malaise is attributed to RP? All of it? Any of it? Is RP even an issue?

[quote=Anonymous]Oh now you are going to ruin their weekend....they think people are really listening to all this and believing it...they just keeping throwing stuff out there waiting to see if someone bites...if not they move on to something else. Apparently we arent suppose to notice that. This has NO IMPACT on anything happening in the great city of WM.[quote]

Just exactly who are you talking to. If this doesnt affect you, why are you here reading it and posting everyday. The people that are being talked about, one in particular, is greatly affected by this and we all know that. We should know, we work here remember! We know it doesnt affect the every day working joe/jane working for the city side....WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THEM AND THEY KNOW IT! Dont you think they are chuckling under their breath and urging us on to post?
So either you are not being honest (read lying) or YOU are one of the people being talked about on here. So have a good weekend, save up your energy..We'll see you here next week.

I am not cop but I work at a company that does business with the police finance dept and city finance department. In talking to several regular city workers at Red's, they and their co-workers cannot wait to see what is posted each day about the police department and the negative stuff on the chief ( whom they seem to dislike) the sex stuff between a sgt and a policewoman and all the other tidbits that are put on. I honestly do not recall them even mentioning their workers on the site but I know a lot of city workers and would be curious to see where it is. Thank You

Just left Red's. These threads or blogs are the topic of conversation among anyone connected to the city. Love the sex affair stuff with EC and KJ ?The other part of the conversations were the new gay characters on desperate housewives? Go figure this city out.

So, what are you saying, Lealie A? On one side it may be construed some people find this amusing, the source of an ocassional chuckle, and that would be it... On the other side, it sounds like lots of people are reading this blog, following it, but not doing much else about it... Which one is closer to your observation?

After last nights "k" night at red's I can tell you people are following these threads and feeding information to a network of city employees so that none can be pinned down as a source of information. Over the last few months they have designed a communication network that monitors every post. Nobody is chuckling or laughing but a large number of regular city workers find these posts as a way of getting information out to the citizens. I can tell you that the city workers are looking to get a AFLCIO because of mistreatment by the city manager and city commissioners along with the personnel department. It has to do with their pensions and merit increases that were taken away.[/quote:5m44avtu]

And can you tell, Leslie A, how much of this malaise is attributed to RP? All of it? Any of it? Is RP even an issue?[/quote:5m44avtu]

If you would listen to the employee's RP is the issue, a huge issue to the negative. That is according to the city employees whom I presume are listening to the PD people. Before the issues I think were the contract and the mismangement of the PD and the hatred of the city manager and commission. Now that a contract was signed ( I do not know the details of it) The *****ing is really directed to the pd adminstration and the city manager, mayor and city commissioners. Also it is also directed that a dept head was allowed to quit and be rehired after a month and be allowed to double dip with a pension and city check. This is a huge problem among the sewer people. And the sex stuff keeps going on along with who will carry comm angelo out from the xmas party when he is a "deuce" whatever that is. I am just saying what others are.

Leslie A: Don't "assume" anything...go back into Red's and have another ****tail. Just don't drink the kool-aid.
Hey everyone: how about a novel idea....quit bashing!!!! Have a great thanksgiving. Be thankful and play nice.

[quote="Leslie A.":171ymdza][quote=Anonymous]Oh now you are going to ruin their weekend....they think people are really listening to all this and believing it...they just keeping throwing stuff out there waiting to see if someone bites...if not they move on to something else. Apparently we arent suppose to notice that. This has NO IMPACT on anything happening in the great city of WM.[quote]

Just exactly who are you talking to. If this doesnt affect you, why are you here reading it and posting everyday. The people that are being talked about, one in particular, is greatly affected by this and we all know that. We should know, we work here remember! We know it doesnt affect the every day working joe/jane working for the city side....WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THEM AND THEY KNOW IT! Dont you think they are chuckling under their breath and urging us on to post?
So either you are not being honest (read lying) or YOU are one of the people being talked about on here. So have a good weekend, save up your energy..We'll see you here next week.

I am not cop but I work at a company that does business with the police finance dept and city finance department. In talking to several regular city workers at Red's, they and their co-workers cannot wait to see what is posted each day about the police department and the negative stuff on the chief ( whom they seem to dislike) the sex stuff between a sgt and a policewoman and all the other tidbits that are put on. I honestly do not recall them even mentioning their workers on the site but I know a lot of city workers and would be curious to see where it is. Thank You

Just left Red's. These threads or blogs are the topic of conversation among anyone connected to the city. Love the sex affair stuff with EC and KJ ?The other part of the conversations were the new gay characters on desperate housewives? Go figure this city out.

So, what are you saying, Lealie A? On one side it may be construed some people find this amusing, the source of an ocassional chuckle, and that would be it... On the other side, it sounds like lots of people are reading this blog, following it, but not doing much else about it... Which one is closer to your observation?

After last nights "k" night at red's I can tell you people are following these threads and feeding information to a network of city employees so that none can be pinned down as a source of information. Over the last few months they have designed a communication network that monitors every post. Nobody is chuckling or laughing but a large number of regular city workers find these posts as a way of getting information out to the citizens. I can tell you that the city workers are looking to get a AFLCIO because of mistreatment by the city manager and city commissioners along with the personnel department. It has to do with their pensions and merit increases that were taken away.[/quote:171ymdza]

And can you tell, Leslie A, how much of this malaise is attributed to RP? All of it? Any of it? Is RP even an issue?[/quote:171ymdza]

If you would listen to the employee's RP is the issue, a huge issue to the negative. That is according to the city employees whom I presume are listening to the PD people. Before the issues I think were the contract and the mismangement of the PD and the hatred of the city manager and commission. Now that a contract was signed ( I do not know the details of it) The *****ing is really directed to the pd adminstration and the city manager, mayor and city commissioners. Also it is also directed that a dept head was allowed to quit and be rehired after a month and be allowed to double dip with a pension and city check. This is a huge problem among the sewer people. And the sex stuff keeps going on along with who will carry comm angelo out from the xmas party when he is a "deuce" whatever that is. I am just saying what others are.[/quote:171ymdza]Hey leslie A. I think you pretty much threw someone from the water department under the bus. There are only a few guys in that department so by elimination the Dept. head can figure out who has the beef about his rightly earned pension. At least with all the *****ing the police do there is a large enough group of employees that it makes it a little harder to figure it out. WAY TO LESLIE!!!!!!

So, as long as you can hide behind the keyboard, you feel safe and with the right to say anyhting, right? Many of you say that you cannot come in the open because you need your paycheck; I believe that you are so 'yellow' that even if your income was secured, you would not have the 'cojones' to show your face; you like to hide; you are low-life by nature!

So, as long as you can hide behind the keyboard, you feel safe and with the right to say anyhting, right? Many of you say that you cannot come in the open because you need your paycheck; I believe that you are so 'yellow' that even if your income was secured, you would not have the 'cojones' to show your face; you like to hide; you are low-life by nature!

Who is this directed towards?

BSO BSO BSOTell us how you really feel about the chief SS

So, as long as you can hide behind the keyboard, you feel safe and with the right to say anyhting, right? Many of you say that you cannot come in the open because you need your paycheck; I believe that you are so 'yellow' that even if your income was secured, you would not have the 'cojones' to show your face; you like to hide; you are low-life by nature!

Actually we just follow the lead of the police chief, city manager, mayor and city council. It all comes flowing downhill so you go with the flow. Right on brother!

So, as long as you can hide behind the keyboard, you feel safe and with the right to say anyhting, right? Many of you say that you cannot come in the open because you need your paycheck; I believe that you are so 'yellow' that even if your income was secured, you would not have the 'cojones' to show your face; you like to hide; you are low-life by nature!

Actually we just follow the lead of the police chief, city manager, mayor and city council. It all comes flowing downhill so you go with the flow. Right on brother!
You're a heck of a team player, aren't you? You follow leadership and example only when it is convenient to your bottom-feeding purposes, right? And, by the way, call no one brother; you're one of the lowest kinds, a slimy protozoan (look it up...)

So, as long as you can hide behind the keyboard, you feel safe and with the right to say anyhting, right? Many of you say that you cannot come in the open because you need your paycheck; I believe that you are so 'yellow' that even if your income was secured, you would not have the 'cojones' to show your face; you like to hide; you are low-life by nature!

Actually we just follow the lead of the police chief, city manager, mayor and city council. It all comes flowing downhill so you go with the flow. Right on brother!
You're a heck of a team player, aren't you? You follow leadership and example only when it is convenient to your bottom-feeding purposes, right? And, by the way, call no one brother; you're one of the lowest kinds, a slimy protozoan (look it up...)

Yo Brother , being a team player, leadership & example. Great topics. And if you want to talk about bottom-feeding ,look to the City Manager, Commission & Police Department Administration. That is what they are made of, bottom feeders.Lower than whale turds. How can the rank and file look up to that? Do you think the general employees have any respect for most of the management that has been brought in. And some of the capital expenditures that were okayed due to political pressure. Whoa mama. Look at the P.O.'s . Very interesting in regards to the new city hall and PD complex. Commissioners will have to answer to that soon, very soon.Big mistake.It will be a subject of a future thread. Will it ever. Good night bro.

[quote=Anonymous]So, as long as you can hide behind the keyboard, you feel safe and with the right to say anyhting, right? Many of you say that you cannot come in the open because you need your paycheck; I believe that you are so 'yellow' that even if your income was secured, you would not have the 'cojones' to show your face; you like to hide; you are low-life by nature!

Actually we just follow the lead of the police chief, city manager, mayor and city council. It all comes flowing downhill so you go with the flow. Right on brother!
You're a heck of a team player, aren't you? You follow leadership and example only when it is convenient to your bottom-feeding purposes, right? And, by the way, call no one brother; you're one of the lowest kinds, a slimy protozoan (look it up...)

Yo Brother , being a team player, leadership & example. Great topics. And if you want to talk about bottom-feeding ,look to the City Manager, Commission & Police Department Administration. That is what they are made of, bottom feeders.Lower than whale turds. How can the rank and file look up to that? Do you think the general employees have any respect for most of the management that has been brought in. And some of the capital expenditures that were okayed due to political pressure. Whoa mama. Look at the P.O.'s . Very interesting in regards to the new city hall and PD complex. Commissioners will have to answer to that soon, very soon.Big mistake.It will be a subject of a future thread. Will it ever. Good night bro.[/quote:2a7u2498]

Hey, why are you using that name? I think that is an infrigement violation. Listen, you miserable low-life....instead of bloging, why don't you get a good night's sleep and stop your bulls**t antics. You need help. Serious help.

[quote="Cyrus the Virus":wtr4owqb][quote=Anonymous]So, as long as you can hide behind the keyboard, you feel safe and with the right to say anyhting, right? Many of you say that you cannot come in the open because you need your paycheck; I believe that you are so 'yellow' that even if your income was secured, you would not have the 'cojones' to show your face; you like to hide; you are low-life by nature!

Actually we just follow the lead of the police chief, city manager, mayor and city council. It all comes flowing downhill so you go with the flow. Right on brother!
You're a heck of a team player, aren't you? You follow leadership and example only when it is convenient to your bottom-feeding purposes, right? And, by the way, call no one brother; you're one of the lowest kinds, a slimy protozoan (look it up...)

Yo Brother , being a team player, leadership & example. Great topics. And if you want to talk about bottom-feeding ,look to the City Manager, Commission & Police Department Administration. That is what they are made of, bottom feeders.Lower than whale turds. How can the rank and file look up to that? Do you think the general employees have any respect for most of the management that has been brought in. And some of the capital expenditures that were okayed due to political pressure. Whoa mama. Look at the P.O.'s . Very interesting in regards to the new city hall and PD complex. Commissioners will have to answer to that soon, very soon.Big mistake.It will be a subject of a future thread. Will it ever. Good night bro.[/quote:wtr4owqb]

Hey, why are you using that name? I think that is an infrigement violation. Listen, you miserable low-life....instead of bloging, why don't you get a good night's sleep and stop your bulls**t antics. You need help. Serious help.[/quote:wtr4owqb]

Please help me! I know you are the only one who can help me stop my antics. Will you be my friend?

Since the Sun Sentinel has not allowed comments after the article, we can post comments here.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/ ... 5184.story (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-flbmanorscops1014nboct14,0,7615184.story)

Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

Hmmm morale is good according to Chief Perez. It will be getting very betterfor a majority of us but in a way our " leader" is not going to like.

Hey Desi......you are posting at 2 in the morning? Your bitterness, anger and jealousy keeping you up at night? MOVE ON, little guy! Move on!

[quote="Mr. Info":201lzmmj]Since the Sun Sentinel has not allowed comments after the article, we can post comments here.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/ ... 5184.story (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-flbmanorscops1014nboct14,0,7615184.story)

Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

Hmmm morale is good according to Chief Perez. It will be getting very betterfor a majority of us but in a way our " leader" is not going to like.[/quote:201lzmmj]

Hmm.. seems that their will be a follow up to this article. Will elude to the affair between EC & KJ as it led to the destruction in the credibility of the chief,pd and city administration( big emphasis as it should be), favoritism in the pd & hr on hiring and some very bad decisions by the city manager and commission on fiscal issues. Whoa Nelly.Some people will have to pay the price for listening to OPIE.Fred was 100% right in his quote.But where will it come from?

Hey, Jack Rabbit, where did you learn how to write? Did you get past 3rd grade? You right more like a Jack A**... My goodness, man; if you represent the best of WMPD or what the South Florida LEO has to offer, we are doomed. Is the absence of coherence when you write a consequence of lack of skills or plain lack of grey matter? Please get off these fora until you are able to write properly...

Hey, Jack Rabbit, where did you learn how to write? Did you get past 3rd grade? You right more like a Jack A**... My goodness, man; if you represent the best of WMPD or what the South Florida LEO has to offer, we are doomed. Is the absence of coherence when you write a consequence of lack of skills or plain lack of grey matter? Please get off these fora until you are able to write properly...So your such A genius because you used spell check and grammar check?

so what brillant comment did Fred make???

Hey, Jack Rabbit, where did you learn how to write? Did you get past 3rd grade? You right more like a Jack A**... My goodness, man; if you represent the best of WMPD or what the South Florida LEO has to offer, we are doomed. Is the absence of coherence when you write a consequence of lack of skills or plain lack of grey matter? Please get off these fora until you are able to write properly...

This has to be the most poorly worded post this tread has had. Must have hit close to home as it appears it was written in anger. Gotcha DUDE :lol:

Hey, Dr. Zeus.. Why don't you follow Jack A** back into the whole in the ground he went back to? You guys have nothing positive to contribute to this forum; all you do is to drool out the venom you have accumulated over years of frustration and ineptitude, of been passed over for more qualified candidates, of being put in your place, even when you did not thing it was your place... I feel so sorry fo you low-lives, bottom-feeders ...

You can redeem yourselves, though: start coming out with tangible and verifyable facts and/or testimonies, and make your case properly and legitimately...

Hey, Dr. Zeus.. Why don't you follow Jack A** back into the whole in the ground he went back to? You guys have nothing positive to contribute to this forum; all you do is to drool out the venom you have accumulated over years of frustration and ineptitude, of been passed over for more qualified candidates, of being put in your place, even when you did not thing it was your place... I feel so sorry fo you low-lives, bottom-feeders ...

You can redeem yourselves, though: start coming out with tangible and verifyable facts and/or testimonies, and make your case properly and legitimately...
Have never been passed over, am very qualified, never been put in "my" place, and do not drool out venon ( hate snakes). But do like speaking the truth when it comes to RP, the City Commission and the destruction they have done and continue to do to the my workplace. People and city officials have to be held accountable, both to their bosses and city residents. Facts and numbers will come out that will point out that 1/Why was this person ever hired and 2/ How can we keep this person in office. By the way whole is spelled hole like the hell hole I work in which is the City of Wilton Manors.

If it is such a Hell Hole then get out. Or are you so "qualified" that no one else wants you?

If it is such a Hell Hole then get out. Or are you so "qualified" that no one else wants you?

Here, here... Last time I looked this was a free country without slavery or involuntary servitude, and Florida was a right-to-work state. If people are miserable in a job, they owe to themselves to better their lot by finding something more suitable to their needs and wants... If anybody is miserable at WMPD, they should not let the door strike their posterior side...

If it is such a Hell Hole then get out. Or are you so "qualified" that no one else wants you?

Here, here... Last time I looked this was a free country without slavery or involuntary servitude, and Florida was a right-to-work state. If people are miserable in a job, they owe to themselves to better their lot by finding something more suitable to their needs and wants... If anybody is miserable at WMPD, they should not let the door strike their posterior side...
Perhaps they are going to wait out those temporary occupants of the city commission. Dont forget that the employees are more invested in the city than most politicians. some are here for thirty years or more. I would dare say more invested than you!

If it is such a Hell Hole then get out. Or are you so "qualified" that no one else wants you?

Here, here... Last time I looked this was a free country without slavery or involuntary servitude, and Florida was a right-to-work state. If people are miserable in a job, they owe to themselves to better their lot by finding something more suitable to their needs and wants... If anybody is miserable at WMPD, they should not let the door strike their posterior side...
Perhaps they are going to wait out those temporary occupants of the city commission. Dont forget that the employees are more invested in the city than most politicians. some are here for thirty years or more. I would dare say more invested than you!

Ok, little guy (or gal); you have it wrong - again! What happens in the WMPD or the city commission has no bearing on my investments, either financial, professional or personal. Your guess is so cold that I am even tempted to give you a hint as of who I am, but not just yet... My dog in is fight is to get to a reasonable level of truth so RP can be either left to do his job, or ousted if he so deserves. But the problem is that, in our country there is always the presumption of innocence (you LEOs more that anybody should be familiar with that concept!), and up until now nobody has offered anything beyond gossip, innuendo, personal attacks and the such. There is no an iota of evidence - credible or not - that anybody has brought up here to demonstrate RP's wrongdoing. Until that happens, you all are falling in the realm of gossipers and malcontents...

If it is such a Hell Hole then get out. Or are you so "qualified" that no one else wants you?

Here, here... Last time I looked this was a free country without slavery or involuntary servitude, and Florida was a right-to-work state. If people are miserable in a job, they owe to themselves to better their lot by finding something more suitable to their needs and wants... If anybody is miserable at WMPD, they should not let the door strike their posterior side...
Perhaps they are going to wait out those temporary occupants of the city commission. Dont forget that the employees are more invested in the city than most politicians. some are here for thirty years or more. I would dare say more invested than you!

Ok, little guy (or gal); you have it wrong - again! What happens in the WMPD or the city commission has no bearing on my investments, either financial, professional or personal. Your guess is so cold that I am even tempted to give you a hint as of who I am, but not just yet... My dog in is fight is to get to a reasonable level of truth so RP can be either left to do his job, or ousted if he so deserves. But the problem is that, in our country there is always the presumption of innocence (you LEOs more that anybody should be familiar with that concept!), and up until now nobody has offered anything beyond gossip, innuendo, personal attacks and the such. There is no an iota of evidence - credible or not - that anybody has brought up here to demonstrate RP's wrongdoing. Until that happens, you all are falling in the realm of gossipers and malcontents...

You shall get the truth in a fashion that will cause many a city official to resign or be terminated. Big mistake on a city manager or commission level. Think of the Elton John song "blinded by the light" because it will cause many a political career to fall. Like a rolling stone.

If it is such a Hell Hole then get out. Or are you so "qualified" that no one else wants you?

Here, here... Last time I looked this was a free country without slavery or involuntary servitude, and Florida was a right-to-work state. If people are miserable in a job, they owe to themselves to better their lot by finding something more suitable to their needs and wants... If anybody is miserable at WMPD, they should not let the door strike their posterior side...
Perhaps they are going to wait out those temporary occupants of the city commission. Dont forget that the employees are more invested in the city than most politicians. some are here for thirty years or more. I would dare say more invested than you!

Ok, little guy (or gal); you have it wrong - again! What happens in the WMPD or the city commission has no bearing on my investments, either financial, professional or personal. Your guess is so cold that I am even tempted to give you a hint as of who I am, but not just yet... My dog in is fight is to get to a reasonable level of truth so RP can be either left to do his job, or ousted if he so deserves. But the problem is that, in our country there is always the presumption of innocence (you LEOs more that anybody should be familiar with that concept!), and up until now nobody has offered anything beyond gossip, innuendo, personal attacks and the such. There is no an iota of evidence - credible or not - that anybody has brought up here to demonstrate RP's wrongdoing. Until that happens, you all are falling in the realm of gossipers and malcontents...

Oh please tell us who you are. yawn ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

If it is such a Hell Hole then get out. Or are you so "qualified" that no one else wants you?

Here, here... Last time I looked this was a free country without slavery or involuntary servitude, and Florida was a right-to-work state. If people are miserable in a job, they owe to themselves to better their lot by finding something more suitable to their needs and wants... If anybody is miserable at WMPD, they should not let the door strike their posterior side...
Perhaps they are going to wait out those temporary occupants of the city commission. Dont forget that the employees are more invested in the city than most politicians. some are here for thirty years or more. I would dare say more invested than you!

Ok, little guy (or gal); you have it wrong - again! What happens in the WMPD or the city commission has no bearing on my investments, either financial, professional or personal. Your guess is so cold that I am even tempted to give you a hint as of who I am, but not just yet... My dog in is fight is to get to a reasonable level of truth so RP can be either left to do his job, or ousted if he so deserves. But the problem is that, in our country there is always the presumption of innocence (you LEOs more that anybody should be familiar with that concept!), and up until now nobody has offered anything beyond gossip, innuendo, personal attacks and the such. There is no an iota of evidence - credible or not - that anybody has brought up here to demonstrate RP's wrongdoing. Until that happens, you all are falling in the realm of gossipers and malcontents...

Oh please tell us who you are. yawn ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Someone who has a "key" to RP'S past and to his future. That's all you need to know for everybodys well being. For all the good people he has tormented for the past 20 plus years it will be a pleasure to take him out. And I imagine the big gay community in Wilton Manors will not be to happy what comes out and when. RP has a very long nose. I now it has grown in the past in FL and continues in the Mannors.

Yeah, yeah, yeah... You have keys; you know so much; you are so important; you, of course, hold the key to RPs past AND future; Oh almighty one! You are brown and full of brown!

Don't stop the gin or tequila; you may come crashing down to reality!

Yeah, yeah, yeah... You have keys; you know so much; you are so important; you, of course, hold the key to RPs past AND future; Oh almighty one! You are brown and full of brown!

Don't stop the gin or tequila; you may come crashing down to reality!

Am not important and do not drink liquor. But I was one of the "chosen" few women at FLPD who really cared about doing her job until RP set his sights on me and if you did any background on this scum, you would understand what that means. He should crawl under the rock he was born under and rot in that dark hole for the rest of his miserable life. He hurt and tried to destroy many a good career for personal gain. I feel sorry for the female employees of Wilton Manors and wish them well against this tyrant.

The Pastor's Ass

The pastor entered his donkey in a race and it won.
The pastor was so pleased with the donkey that he entered it in another race and it won again.

The local paper read:
PASTOR'S ASS OUT FRONT

The Bishop was so upset with this kind of publicity that he ordered the pastor not to enter the donkey in another race.

The next day, the local paper headline read:

BISHOP SCRATCHES PASTOR'S ASS


This was too much for the bishop, so he ordered the pastor to get rid of the donkey.
The pastor decided to give it to a nun in a nearby convent.

The local paper, hearing of the news, posted the following headline the next day:
NUN HAS BEST ASS IN TOWN

The bishop fainted. He informed the nun that she would have to get rid of the donkey, so she sold it to a farmer for $10.

The next day the paper read:
NUN SELLS ASS FOR $10


This was too much for the bishop, so he ordered the nun to buy back the donkey and lead it to the plains where it could run wild.

The next day the headlines read:
NUN ANNOUNCES HER ASS IS WILD AND FREE


The bishop was buried the next day.

The moral of the story is . . Being concerned about public opinion can bring you much grief and misery, even shorten your life.

So be yourself and enjoy life. Stop worrying about everyone else's ass and you'll be a lot happier and live longer!

The Pastor's Ass

The pastor entered his donkey in a race and it won.
The pastor was so pleased with the donkey that he entered it in another race and it won again.

The local paper read:
PASTOR'S ASS OUT FRONT

The Bishop was so upset with this kind of publicity that he ordered the pastor not to enter the donkey in another race.

The next day, the local paper headline read:

BISHOP SCRATCHES PASTOR'S ASS


This was too much for the bishop, so he ordered the pastor to get rid of the donkey.
The pastor decided to give it to a nun in a nearby convent.

The local paper, hearing of the news, posted the following headline the next day:
NUN HAS BEST ASS IN TOWN

The bishop fainted. He informed the nun that she would have to get rid of the donkey, so she sold it to a farmer for $10.

The next day the paper read:
NUN SELLS ASS FOR $10


This was too much for the bishop, so he ordered the nun to buy back the donkey and lead it to the plains where it could run wild.

The next day the headlines read:
NUN ANNOUNCES HER ASS IS WILD AND FREE


The bishop was buried the next day.

The moral of the story is . . Being concerned about public opinion can bring you much grief and misery, even shorten your life.

So be yourself and enjoy life. Stop worrying about everyone else's ass and you'll be a lot happier and live longer!

I LOVE IT...GREAT STORY, THANKS FOR SHARING AND PUTTNG A SMILE ON MY FACE!!!

Yeah, yeah, yeah... You have keys; you know so much; you are so important; you, of course, hold the key to RPs past AND future; Oh almighty one! You are brown and full of brown!

Don't stop the gin or tequila; you may come crashing down to reality!

Am not important and do not drink liquor. But I was one of the "chosen" few women at FLPD who really cared about doing her job until RP set his sights on me and if you did any background on this scum, you would understand what that means. He should crawl under the rock he was born under and rot in that dark hole for the rest of his miserable life. He hurt and tried to destroy many a good career for personal gain. I feel sorry for the female employees of Wilton Manors and wish them well against this tyrant.

Funny how poems come up when you get close to the truth.

Was just a the Santa's christmas deal at Hagen Park . BEWARE! Joe Angelo and Nick Boyko rude men who are anti-children. Two of the fakest people you'll ever meet. People of Wilton Manors remember they are two-faced people who will smile and say hello and then speak rudely about you when you walk away.

Was just a the Santa's christmas deal at Hagen Park . BEWARE! Joe Angelo and Nick Boyko rude men who are anti-children. Two of the fakest people you'll ever meet. People of Wilton Manors remember they are two-faced people who will smile and say hello and then speak rudely about you when you walk away.

sounds like maybe U are the one that is doing that.........lol.

Yeah, yeah, yeah... You have keys; you know so much; you are so important; you, of course, hold the key to RPs past AND future; Oh almighty one! You are brown and full of brown!

Don't stop the gin or tequila; you may come crashing down to reality!

Am not important and do not drink liquor. But I was one of the "chosen" few women at FLPD who really cared about doing her job until RP set his sights on me and if you did any background on this scum, you would understand what that means. He should crawl under the rock he was born under and rot in that dark hole for the rest of his miserable life. He hurt and tried to destroy many a good career for personal gain. I feel sorry for the female employees of Wilton Manors and wish them well against this tyrant.

"EARTH HATH NO FURY..." By the level of bitterness spewed in your posting, I think your grievance is personal...Why don't you tell the whole story? Did he 'loved you and left you'? Or were you one of those one-night stands that dreamt of becoming the wife? GET A GRIP!

If you do not drink liquor now, you should go back to it; you need it!

is chief perez still there he was an instructor at our academy he was an ok dude. is he the one you guys call r.p?

is chief perez still there he was an instructor at our academy he was an ok dude. is he the one you guys call r.p?

That's the same... What happens is that small band of malcontents are unhappy and unsettled by the changes RP instituted when he took over WMPD and the only way for them to 'vent' is to - anonymously - spew venom and lies...

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

How True !

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

How True ![/quote:3picyt7q]
Be leavin very soon. Need to go a police agency that is proactive, and does not disgrace us all by parking abadoned police cars on wilton drive so the community of wilton manors really thinks we care about the safety of the people who live and visit the city. Come on now, it is all about the EGO of RP and the rest of the governing body namely MAYOR SCOTT NEWTON, CITY MANAGER JOSEPH GALLEGOS and the rest of the CITY COMMISSION, JOE ANGELO,TED GALLETIS GARY RESNICK and the dwarf, CRAIG SHERRITT. They all have destroyed a public service agency.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

How True ![/quote:1riyql8f]
Be leavin very soon. Need to go a police agency that is proactive, and does not disgrace us all by parking abadoned police cars on wilton drive so the community of wilton manors really thinks we care about the safety of the people who live and visit the city. Come on now, it is all about the EGO of RP and the rest of the governing body namely MAYOR SCOTT NEWTON, CITY MANAGER JOSEPH GALLEGOS and the rest of the CITY COMMISSION, JOE ANGELO,TED GALLETIS GARY RESNICK and the dwarf, CRAIG SHERRITT. They all have destroyed a public service agency.[/quote:1riyql8f]

Bye-Bye!

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

How True !
Be leavin very soon. Need to go a police agency that is proactive, and does not disgrace us all by parking abadoned police cars on wilton drive so the community of wilton manors really thinks we care about the safety of the people who live and visit the city. Come on now, it is all about the EGO of RP and the rest of the governing body namely MAYOR SCOTT NEWTON, CITY MANAGER JOSEPH GALLEGOS and the rest of the CITY COMMISSION, JOE ANGELO,TED GALLETIS GARY RESNICK and the dwarf, CRAIG SHERRITT. They all have destroyed a public service agency.[/quote:3gdyvn0j]

Bye-Bye![/quote:3gdyvn0j]

Soon, very soon and not a minute to soon.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

How True !
Be leavin very soon. Need to go a police agency that is proactive, and does not disgrace us all by parking abadoned police cars on wilton drive so the community of wilton manors really thinks we care about the safety of the people who live and visit the city. Come on now, it is all about the EGO of RP and the rest of the governing body namely MAYOR SCOTT NEWTON, CITY MANAGER JOSEPH GALLEGOS and the rest of the CITY COMMISSION, JOE ANGELO,TED GALLETIS GARY RESNICK and the dwarf, CRAIG SHERRITT. They all have destroyed a public service agency.[/quote:15rwgfa3]

Bye-Bye![/quote:15rwgfa3]

Word is that Chief RP may be leavin very, very shortly. His past is catching up along with people he associated with him very quickly which would be a breath of fresh air to every city and police department worker in the city. He has talked down to pretty much every person on both sides of the building and the one on dixie hwy,hagen park and the library so it cannot be a moment to soon.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

How True !
Be leavin very soon. Need to go a police agency that is proactive, and does not disgrace us all by parking abadoned police cars on wilton drive so the community of wilton manors really thinks we care about the safety of the people who live and visit the city. Come on now, it is all about the EGO of RP and the rest of the governing body namely MAYOR SCOTT NEWTON, CITY MANAGER JOSEPH GALLEGOS and the rest of the CITY COMMISSION, JOE ANGELO,TED GALLETIS GARY RESNICK and the dwarf, CRAIG SHERRITT. They all have destroyed a public service agency.[/quote:oxjewe6b]

Bye-Bye![/quote:oxjewe6b]

Word is that Chief RP may be leavin very, very shortly. His past is catching up along with people he associated with him very quickly which would be a breath of fresh air to every city and police department worker in the city. He has talked down to pretty much every person on both sides of the building and the one on dixie hwy,hagen park and the library so it cannot be a moment to soon.[/quote:oxjewe6b]

haha..dont hold your breath.

[quote="Wolf Ghost":hqiuo6hw][quote="Mr. Info":hqiuo6hw]Since the Sun Sentinel has not allowed comments after the article, we can post comments here.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

How True !
Be leavin very soon. Need to go a police agency that is proactive, and does not disgrace us all by parking abadoned police cars on wilton drive so the community of wilton manors really thinks we care about the safety of the people who live and visit the city. Come on now, it is all about the EGO of RP and the rest of the governing body namely MAYOR SCOTT NEWTON, CITY MANAGER JOSEPH GALLEGOS and the rest of the CITY COMMISSION, JOE ANGELO,TED GALLETIS GARY RESNICK and the dwarf, CRAIG SHERRITT. They all have destroyed a public service agency.

Bye-Bye![/quote:hqiuo6hw]

Soon, very soon and not a minute to soon.[/quote:hqiuo6hw]

Word is EC has been seen hob knobing with the mayor and telling people he is going to be Chief. Is he doing this behind Perez's back? Watch out Chief is he going to knife you too?

[quote="Leavin the manors":1vdj86nz][quote="Wolf Ghost":1vdj86nz][quote="Mr. Info":1vdj86nz]Since the Sun Sentinel has not allowed comments after the article, we can post comments here.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

How True !
Be leavin very soon. Need to go a police agency that is proactive, and does not disgrace us all by parking abadoned police cars on wilton drive so the community of wilton manors really thinks we care about the safety of the people who live and visit the city. Come on now, it is all about the EGO of RP and the rest of the governing body namely MAYOR SCOTT NEWTON, CITY MANAGER JOSEPH GALLEGOS and the rest of the CITY COMMISSION, JOE ANGELO,TED GALLETIS GARY RESNICK and the dwarf, CRAIG SHERRITT. They all have destroyed a public service agency.

Bye-Bye![/quote:1vdj86nz]

Soon, very soon and not a minute to soon.[/quote:1vdj86nz]

Word is EC has been seen hob knobing with the mayor and telling people he is going to be Chief. Is he doing this behind Perez's back? Watch out Chief is he going to knife you too?[/quote:1vdj86nz]
Wouldnt the current chief have to leave first??? Maybe thats just what ec wants in the far far future....nothing wrong with shooting for the stars.

[quote="Leavin the manors":1dc02rl6][quote="Wolf Ghost":1dc02rl6][quote="Mr. Info":1dc02rl6]Since the Sun Sentinel has not allowed comments after the article, we can post comments here.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

How True !
Be leavin very soon. Need to go a police agency that is proactive, and does not disgrace us all by parking abadoned police cars on wilton drive so the community of wilton manors really thinks we care about the safety of the people who live and visit the city. Come on now, it is all about the EGO of RP and the rest of the governing body namely MAYOR SCOTT NEWTON, CITY MANAGER JOSEPH GALLEGOS and the rest of the CITY COMMISSION, JOE ANGELO,TED GALLETIS GARY RESNICK and the dwarf, CRAIG SHERRITT. They all have destroyed a public service agency.

Bye-Bye!

Soon, very soon and not a minute to soon.[/quote:1dc02rl6]

Word is EC has been seen hob knobing with the mayor and telling people he is going to be Chief. Is he doing this behind Perez's back? Watch out Chief is he going to knife you too?[/quote:1dc02rl6][/quote:1dc02rl6]
Wouldnt the current chief have to leave first??? Maybe thats just what ec wants in the far far future....nothing wrong with shooting for the stars.[/quote}

Chief you better watch your back. You know how Ed works. 1 min. your there the other min. your not. You know how he talks behind everyones back. Whats he been telling Newton about you? YOU BETTER WORK ON THAT.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

How True ![/quote:212be1do]

For us left who care about the community at the Wilton Manors Police Department it gets worse each day. One of the last supervisors who watched out for us ( part time) has left leaving the NAZI SS from Fort Lauderdale Police Department who came in on behalf of the city manager, joseph gallegos, mayor scott newton, commissioner joe angelo and the rest of the current city commission . Remember how Naugle ditched gay people, you all have to listen to Chief Perez and how he wants nothing to do with queer and lesbian folk.

Who wants anything to do with these vile people it's best to hate them behind closed doors. They are really not liked by anyone in this city they are just tolerated.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

How True ![/quote:173o05d6]

For us left who care about the community at the Wilton Manors Police Department it gets worse each day. One of the last supervisors who watched out for us ( part time) has left leaving the NAZI SS from Fort Lauderdale Police Department who came in on behalf of the city manager, joseph gallegos, mayor scott newton, commissioner joe angelo and the rest of the current city commission . Remember how Naugle ditched gay people, you all have to listen to Chief Perez and how he wants nothing to do with queer and lesbian folk.[/quote:173o05d6]

I moved to the wilton manors/south florida in may 07 to relocate with motorola from the chicago area. My partner and I had done extensive research on the community and how it treated and interacted with the gay and lesbian community. We thought the police force and other police forces were gay friendly due to the population of not only wilton manors, victoria park and fort lauderdale as well. First when we come to the drive it is not safe to walk across the street because of the endless supply of speeding cars. When we tried to ask a police officer on artwalk night why no police were present he said the police chief did away with the officers who did the radar inspections because of a consultant and mayors report and the city goverment did not care about the safety of walkers, many of who are gay. If that is true how does that support the people who have businesses along wilton manors drive. I for one will never come back until some controls are established to slow cars down and see to it that safety measures are in place. The officer who was quite rude and flippant said that he had to go because safety is no longer a priority with the police patrols and all we care about is going to the calls. If that is true some serious questions need to be asked of goverment on what the true purpose of its goals are. In chicago and in the suburbs, major srteets are patrolled by officers who issue tickets to violaters and make the police presence visible. The internet sites and publications who stated this police department is gay friendly and are in tune with the community need to revisit that response.

[quote="Grey Beard":iaqdzt6z][quote="Wolf Ghost":iaqdzt6z][quote="Mr. Info":iaqdzt6z]Since the Sun Sentinel has not allowed comments after the article, we can post comments here.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

How True ![/quote:iaqdzt6z]

For us left who care about the community at the Wilton Manors Police Department it gets worse each day. One of the last supervisors who watched out for us ( part time) has left leaving the NAZI SS from Fort Lauderdale Police Department who came in on behalf of the city manager, joseph gallegos, mayor scott newton, commissioner joe angelo and the rest of the current city commission . Remember how Naugle ditched gay people, you all have to listen to Chief Perez and how he wants nothing to do with queer and lesbian folk.[/quote:iaqdzt6z]

I moved to the wilton manors/south florida in may 07 to relocate with motorola from the chicago area. My partner and I had done extensive research on the community and how it treated and interacted with the gay and lesbian community. We thought the police force and other police forces were gay friendly due to the population of not only wilton manors, victoria park and fort lauderdale as well. First when we come to the drive it is not safe to walk across the street because of the endless supply of speeding cars. When we tried to ask a police officer on artwalk night why no police were present he said the police chief did away with the officers who did the radar inspections because of a consultant and mayors report and the city goverment did not care about the safety of walkers, many of who are gay. If that is true how does that support the people who have businesses along wilton manors drive. I for one will never come back until some controls are established to slow cars down and see to it that safety measures are in place. The officer who was quite rude and flippant said that he had to go because safety is no longer a priority with the police patrols and all we care about is going to the calls. If that is true some serious questions need to be asked of goverment on what the true purpose of its goals are. In chicago and in the suburbs, major srteets are patrolled by officers who issue tickets to violaters and make the police presence visible. The internet sites and publications who stated this police department is gay friendly and are in tune with the community need to revisit that response.[/quote:iaqdzt6z]



Not sure why you have to share that you are gay or that the PD & the city should be more gay-friendly. It should be safe for EVERYONE as far as traffic safety or crime. No better or no worse no matter what your sexual orientation may be.

Good never come back! Go back to Chicago! If you dinner mashers would use the crosswalks instead of just crossing where you see fit it would be safer. I hope they raise the speed limit to eliminate you people from coming to the drive all together. Your drunken public sex is disgusting and the constant sense of entitlement cause your gay is a nuisance.

[quote="Grey Beard":2vjgkpzx][quote="Wolf Ghost":2vjgkpzx][quote="Mr. Info":2vjgkpzx]Since the Sun Sentinel has not allowed comments after the article, we can post comments here.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

How True ![/quote:2vjgkpzx]

For us left who care about the community at the Wilton Manors Police Department it gets worse each day. One of the last supervisors who watched out for us ( part time) has left leaving the NAZI SS from Fort Lauderdale Police Department who came in on behalf of the city manager, joseph gallegos, mayor scott newton, commissioner joe angelo and the rest of the current city commission . Remember how Naugle ditched gay people, you all have to listen to Chief Perez and how he wants nothing to do with queer and lesbian folk.[/quote:2vjgkpzx]

I moved to the wilton manors/south florida in may 07 to relocate with motorola from the chicago area. My partner and I had done extensive research on the community and how it treated and interacted with the gay and lesbian community. We thought the police force and other police forces were gay friendly due to the population of not only wilton manors, victoria park and fort lauderdale as well. First when we come to the drive it is not safe to walk across the street because of the endless supply of speeding cars. When we tried to ask a police officer on artwalk night why no police were present he said the police chief did away with the officers who did the radar inspections because of a consultant and mayors report and the city goverment did not care about the safety of walkers, many of who are gay. If that is true how does that support the people who have businesses along wilton manors drive. I for one will never come back until some controls are established to slow cars down and see to it that safety measures are in place. The officer who was quite rude and flippant said that he had to go because safety is no longer a priority with the police patrols and all we care about is going to the calls. If that is true some serious questions need to be asked of goverment on what the true purpose of its goals are. In chicago and in the suburbs, major srteets are patrolled by officers who issue tickets to violaters and make the police presence visible. The internet sites and publications who stated this police department is gay friendly and are in tune with the community need to revisit that response.[/quote:2vjgkpzx]

Are you for real...I dont believe a WM officer would EVER make those comments, and If they did im sure you would have gotten their name and called the chief. The officers are out on artwalk night to insure the citizens safety...have you not noticed the orange cones when you are on the drive, its to try and get people to slow down. I for one have seen the empty police cars, but i have also seen the ones with officers doing radar. So, dont tell me the city and the police dept arent doing anything. I agree with another writer, that you cant make people cross where they are suppose to,,,you can have a stop light or whatever, and there will still be people crossing where they arent suppose to....So, how do you think that can be solved?????Once again...someone talking crap that they know nothing about, and have no ideas for improvment....If you feel un welcome in WM you can always move.....

[quote="Grey Beard":3qebws8n][quote="Wolf Ghost":3qebws8n][quote="Mr. Info":3qebws8n]Since the Sun Sentinel has not allowed comments after the article, we can post comments here.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

How True !

For us left who care about the community at the Wilton Manors Police Department it gets worse each day. One of the last supervisors who watched out for us ( part time) has left leaving the NAZI SS from Fort Lauderdale Police Department who came in on behalf of the city manager, joseph gallegos, mayor scott newton, commissioner joe angelo and the rest of the current city commission . Remember how Naugle ditched gay people, you all have to listen to Chief Perez and how he wants nothing to do with queer and lesbian folk.[/quote:3qebws8n]

I moved to the wilton manors/south florida in may 07 to relocate with motorola from the chicago area. My partner and I had done extensive research on the community and how it treated and interacted with the gay and lesbian community. We thought the police force and other police forces were gay friendly due to the population of not only wilton manors, victoria park and fort lauderdale as well. First when we come to the drive it is not safe to walk across the street because of the endless supply of speeding cars. When we tried to ask a police officer on artwalk night why no police were present he said the police chief did away with the officers who did the radar inspections because of a consultant and mayors report and the city goverment did not care about the safety of walkers, many of who are gay. If that is true how does that support the people who have businesses along wilton manors drive. I for one will never come back until some controls are established to slow cars down and see to it that safety measures are in place. The officer who was quite rude and flippant said that he had to go because safety is no longer a priority with the police patrols and all we care about is going to the calls. If that is true some serious questions need to be asked of goverment on what the true purpose of its goals are. In chicago and in the suburbs, major srteets are patrolled by officers who issue tickets to violaters and make the police presence visible. The internet sites and publications who stated this police department is gay friendly and are in tune with the community need to revisit that response.[/quote:3qebws8n]

Are you for real...I dont believe a WM officer would EVER make those comments, and If they did im sure you would have gotten their name and called the chief. The officers are out on artwalk night to insure the citizens safety...have you not noticed the orange cones when you are on the drive, its to try and get people to slow down. I for one have seen the empty police cars, but i have also seen the ones with officers doing radar. So, dont tell me the city and the police dept arent doing anything. I agree with another writer, that you cant make people cross where they are suppose to,,,you can have a stop light or whatever, and there will still be people crossing where they arent suppose to....So, how do you think that can be solved?????Once again...someone talking crap that they know nothing about, and have no ideas for improvment....If you feel un welcome in WM you can always move.....[/quote:3qebws8n]

So is that the attitude in this city, if you disagree with the tactics of the city you are trashed. Or told to move out.The excess speeding on wilton manors drive is uncontolable. What the hell do orange cones do!I and my partner went to the the Naked Grape but found that crossing the street was very dangerous to our well being so we will not frequent the businesses on wilton drive until city goverment does something to safeguard the pedestrian traffic of the city. My partner did speak to a wilton manors police officer who said that they did not have enough police officers to help the visitors because they were not paid enough to get good people to apply for pd jobs. What is up with that statement. Jesus, with the taxes I pay on NE 22 drive I cannot imagine employees not getting paid a fair wage.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

How True !

For us left who care about the community at the Wilton Manors Police Department it gets worse each day. One of the last supervisors who watched out for us ( part time) has left leaving the NAZI SS from Fort Lauderdale Police Department who came in on behalf of the city manager, joseph gallegos, mayor scott newton, commissioner joe angelo and the rest of the current city commission . Remember how Naugle ditched gay people, you all have to listen to Chief Perez and how he wants nothing to do with queer and lesbian folk.

I moved to the wilton manors/south florida in may 07 to relocate with motorola from the chicago area. My partner and I had done extensive research on the community and how it treated and interacted with the gay and lesbian community. We thought the police force and other police forces were gay friendly due to the population of not only wilton manors, victoria park and fort lauderdale as well. First when we come to the drive it is not safe to walk across the street because of the endless supply of speeding cars. When we tried to ask a police officer on artwalk night why no police were present he said the police chief did away with the officers who did the radar inspections because of a consultant and mayors report and the city goverment did not care about the safety of walkers, many of who are gay. If that is true how does that support the people who have businesses along wilton manors drive. I for one will never come back until some controls are established to slow cars down and see to it that safety measures are in place. The officer who was quite rude and flippant said that he had to go because safety is no longer a priority with the police patrols and all we care about is going to the calls. If that is true some serious questions need to be asked of goverment on what the true purpose of its goals are. In chicago and in the suburbs, major srteets are patrolled by officers who issue tickets to violaters and make the police presence visible. The internet sites and publications who stated this police department is gay friendly and are in tune with the community need to revisit that response.[/quote:89zzr9wf]

Are you for real...I dont believe a WM officer would EVER make those comments, and If they did im sure you would have gotten their name and called the chief. The officers are out on artwalk night to insure the citizens safety...have you not noticed the orange cones when you are on the drive, its to try and get people to slow down. I for one have seen the empty police cars, but i have also seen the ones with officers doing radar. So, dont tell me the city and the police dept arent doing anything. I agree with another writer, that you cant make people cross where they are suppose to,,,you can have a stop light or whatever, and there will still be people crossing where they arent suppose to....So, how do you think that can be solved?????Once again...someone talking crap that they know nothing about, and have no ideas for improvment....If you feel un welcome in WM you can always move.....[/quote:89zzr9wf]

So is that the attitude in this city, if you disagree with the tactics of the city you are trashed. Or told to move out.The excess speeding on wilton manors drive is uncontolable. What the hell do orange cones do!I and my partner went to the the Naked Grape but found that crossing the street was very dangerous to our well being so we will not frequent the businesses on wilton drive until city goverment does something to safeguard the pedestrian traffic of the city. My partner did speak to a wilton manors police officer who said that they did not have enough police officers to help the visitors because they were not paid enough to get good people to apply for pd jobs. What is up with that statement. Jesus, with the taxes I pay on NE 22 drive I cannot imagine employees not getting paid a fair wage.[/quote:89zzr9wf]Hey retard if you cross at a crosswalk you would have no problems. That's the problem on Wilton Drive all these dinner mashers think they can cross anywhere they want. How hard is it to cross at a crosswalk? Apparently these dinner mashers think they are entitled to do what ever they want. I hope they raise the speed limit on wilton drive to 70.

[quote="Grey Beard":1bmr7ogf][quote="Wolf Ghost":1bmr7ogf][quote="Mr. Info":1bmr7ogf]Since the Sun Sentinel has not allowed comments after the article, we can post comments here.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

How True !

For us left who care about the community at the Wilton Manors Police Department it gets worse each day. One of the last supervisors who watched out for us ( part time) has left leaving the NAZI SS from Fort Lauderdale Police Department who came in on behalf of the city manager, joseph gallegos, mayor scott newton, commissioner joe angelo and the rest of the current city commission . Remember how Naugle ditched gay people, you all have to listen to Chief Perez and how he wants nothing to do with queer and lesbian folk.

I moved to the wilton manors/south florida in may 07 to relocate with motorola from the chicago area. My partner and I had done extensive research on the community and how it treated and interacted with the gay and lesbian community. We thought the police force and other police forces were gay friendly due to the population of not only wilton manors, victoria park and fort lauderdale as well. First when we come to the drive it is not safe to walk across the street because of the endless supply of speeding cars. When we tried to ask a police officer on artwalk night why no police were present he said the police chief did away with the officers who did the radar inspections because of a consultant and mayors report and the city goverment did not care about the safety of walkers, many of who are gay. If that is true how does that support the people who have businesses along wilton manors drive. I for one will never come back until some controls are established to slow cars down and see to it that safety measures are in place. The officer who was quite rude and flippant said that he had to go because safety is no longer a priority with the police patrols and all we care about is going to the calls. If that is true some serious questions need to be asked of goverment on what the true purpose of its goals are. In chicago and in the suburbs, major srteets are patrolled by officers who issue tickets to violaters and make the police presence visible. The internet sites and publications who stated this police department is gay friendly and are in tune with the community need to revisit that response.

Are you for real...I dont believe a WM officer would EVER make those comments, and If they did im sure you would have gotten their name and called the chief. The officers are out on artwalk night to insure the citizens safety...have you not noticed the orange cones when you are on the drive, its to try and get people to slow down. I for one have seen the empty police cars, but i have also seen the ones with officers doing radar. So, dont tell me the city and the police dept arent doing anything. I agree with another writer, that you cant make people cross where they are suppose to,,,you can have a stop light or whatever, and there will still be people crossing where they arent suppose to....So, how do you think that can be solved?????Once again...someone talking crap that they know nothing about, and have no ideas for improvment....If you feel un welcome in WM you can always move.....[/quote:1bmr7ogf]

So is that the attitude in this city, if you disagree with the tactics of the city you are trashed. Or told to move out.The excess speeding on wilton manors drive is uncontolable. What the hell do orange cones do!I and my partner went to the the Naked Grape but found that crossing the street was very dangerous to our well being so we will not frequent the businesses on wilton drive until city goverment does something to safeguard the pedestrian traffic of the city. My partner did speak to a wilton manors police officer who said that they did not have enough police officers to help the visitors because they were not paid enough to get good people to apply for pd jobs. What is up with that statement. Jesus, with the taxes I pay on NE 22 drive I cannot imagine employees not getting paid a fair wage.[/quote:1bmr7ogf]Hey retard if you cross at a crosswalk you would have no problems. That's the problem on Wilton Drive all these dinner mashers think they can cross anywhere they want. How hard is it to cross at a crosswalk? Apparently these dinner mashers think they are entitled to do what ever they want. I hope they raise the speed limit on wilton drive to 70.[/quote:1bmr7ogf]

So now I guess all gay people are RETARDS for wanting a police department to patrol major roads with security against traffic violaters and speeders. If you are a police person it shows you how dumb you are. We cross at crosswalks and it makes no difference if you are potential road kill at a crosswalk or in the middle of a block. The reckless driving is out of control and no person in the city goverment will admit it. This is a major problem waiting to happen and it will in time. Shutting ones eyes to a major public safety issue just raises the stakes when the incident occurs.

[quote="Grey Beard":18n4rkbs][quote="Wolf Ghost":18n4rkbs][quote="Mr. Info":18n4rkbs]Since the Sun Sentinel has not allowed comments after the article, we can post comments here.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

How True !

For us left who care about the community at the Wilton Manors Police Department it gets worse each day. One of the last supervisors who watched out for us ( part time) has left leaving the NAZI SS from Fort Lauderdale Police Department who came in on behalf of the city manager, joseph gallegos, mayor scott newton, commissioner joe angelo and the rest of the current city commission . Remember how Naugle ditched gay people, you all have to listen to Chief Perez and how he wants nothing to do with queer and lesbian folk.

I moved to the wilton manors/south florida in may 07 to relocate with motorola from the chicago area. My partner and I had done extensive research on the community and how it treated and interacted with the gay and lesbian community. We thought the police force and other police forces were gay friendly due to the population of not only wilton manors, victoria park and fort lauderdale as well. First when we come to the drive it is not safe to walk across the street because of the endless supply of speeding cars. When we tried to ask a police officer on artwalk night why no police were present he said the police chief did away with the officers who did the radar inspections because of a consultant and mayors report and the city goverment did not care about the safety of walkers, many of who are gay. If that is true how does that support the people who have businesses along wilton manors drive. I for one will never come back until some controls are established to slow cars down and see to it that safety measures are in place. The officer who was quite rude and flippant said that he had to go because safety is no longer a priority with the police patrols and all we care about is going to the calls. If that is true some serious questions need to be asked of goverment on what the true purpose of its goals are. In chicago and in the suburbs, major srteets are patrolled by officers who issue tickets to violaters and make the police presence visible. The internet sites and publications who stated this police department is gay friendly and are in tune with the community need to revisit that response.

Are you for real...I dont believe a WM officer would EVER make those comments, and If they did im sure you would have gotten their name and called the chief. The officers are out on artwalk night to insure the citizens safety...have you not noticed the orange cones when you are on the drive, its to try and get people to slow down. I for one have seen the empty police cars, but i have also seen the ones with officers doing radar. So, dont tell me the city and the police dept arent doing anything. I agree with another writer, that you cant make people cross where they are suppose to,,,you can have a stop light or whatever, and there will still be people crossing where they arent suppose to....So, how do you think that can be solved?????Once again...someone talking crap that they know nothing about, and have no ideas for improvment....If you feel un welcome in WM you can always move.....

So is that the attitude in this city, if you disagree with the tactics of the city you are trashed. Or told to move out.The excess speeding on wilton manors drive is uncontolable. What the hell do orange cones do!I and my partner went to the the Naked Grape but found that crossing the street was very dangerous to our well being so we will not frequent the businesses on wilton drive until city goverment does something to safeguard the pedestrian traffic of the city. My partner did speak to a wilton manors police officer who said that they did not have enough police officers to help the visitors because they were not paid enough to get good people to apply for pd jobs. What is up with that statement. Jesus, with the taxes I pay on NE 22 drive I cannot imagine employees not getting paid a fair wage.[/quote:18n4rkbs]Hey retard if you cross at a crosswalk you would have no problems. That's the problem on Wilton Drive all these dinner mashers think they can cross anywhere they want. How hard is it to cross at a crosswalk? Apparently these dinner mashers think they are entitled to do what ever they want. I hope they raise the speed limit on wilton drive to 70.[/quote:18n4rkbs]

So now I guess all gay people are RETARDS for wanting a police department to patrol major roads with security against traffic violaters and speeders. If you are a police person it shows you how dumb you are. We cross at crosswalks and it makes no difference if you are potential road kill at a crosswalk or in the middle of a block. The reckless driving is out of control and no person in the city goverment will admit it. This is a major problem waiting to happen and it will in time. Shutting ones eyes to a major public safety issue just raises the stakes when the incident occurs.[/quote:18n4rkbs]

so what great ideas do you have to slow down traffic...???????????? The city as a whole has been working on this issue...its not a simple matter since this is a state road...stop your complaining...if you arent part of the solution..you are part of the problem. Its has nothing to do with it being a gay issue......

[quote="Joseph Freehan":1jb11ota][quote="Grey Beard":1jb11ota][quote="Wolf Ghost":1jb11ota][quote="Mr. Info":1jb11ota]Since the Sun Sentinel has not allowed comments after the article, we can post comments here.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

How True !

For us left who care about the community at the Wilton Manors Police Department it gets worse each day. One of the last supervisors who watched out for us ( part time) has left leaving the NAZI SS from Fort Lauderdale Police Department who came in on behalf of the city manager, joseph gallegos, mayor scott newton, commissioner joe angelo and the rest of the current city commission . Remember how Naugle ditched gay people, you all have to listen to Chief Perez and how he wants nothing to do with queer and lesbian folk.

I moved to the wilton manors/south florida in may 07 to relocate with motorola from the chicago area. My partner and I had done extensive research on the community and how it treated and interacted with the gay and lesbian community. We thought the police force and other police forces were gay friendly due to the population of not only wilton manors, victoria park and fort lauderdale as well. First when we come to the drive it is not safe to walk across the street because of the endless supply of speeding cars. When we tried to ask a police officer on artwalk night why no police were present he said the police chief did away with the officers who did the radar inspections because of a consultant and mayors report and the city goverment did not care about the safety of walkers, many of who are gay. If that is true how does that support the people who have businesses along wilton manors drive. I for one will never come back until some controls are established to slow cars down and see to it that safety measures are in place. The officer who was quite rude and flippant said that he had to go because safety is no longer a priority with the police patrols and all we care about is going to the calls. If that is true some serious questions need to be asked of goverment on what the true purpose of its goals are. In chicago and in the suburbs, major srteets are patrolled by officers who issue tickets to violaters and make the police presence visible. The internet sites and publications who stated this police department is gay friendly and are in tune with the community need to revisit that response.

Are you for real...I dont believe a WM officer would EVER make those comments, and If they did im sure you would have gotten their name and called the chief. The officers are out on artwalk night to insure the citizens safety...have you not noticed the orange cones when you are on the drive, its to try and get people to slow down. I for one have seen the empty police cars, but i have also seen the ones with officers doing radar. So, dont tell me the city and the police dept arent doing anything. I agree with another writer, that you cant make people cross where they are suppose to,,,you can have a stop light or whatever, and there will still be people crossing where they arent suppose to....So, how do you think that can be solved?????Once again...someone talking crap that they know nothing about, and have no ideas for improvment....If you feel un welcome in WM you can always move.....

So is that the attitude in this city, if you disagree with the tactics of the city you are trashed. Or told to move out.The excess speeding on wilton manors drive is uncontolable. What the hell do orange cones do!I and my partner went to the the Naked Grape but found that crossing the street was very dangerous to our well being so we will not frequent the businesses on wilton drive until city goverment does something to safeguard the pedestrian traffic of the city. My partner did speak to a wilton manors police officer who said that they did not have enough police officers to help the visitors because they were not paid enough to get good people to apply for pd jobs. What is up with that statement. Jesus, with the taxes I pay on NE 22 drive I cannot imagine employees not getting paid a fair wage.[/quote:1jb11ota]Hey retard if you cross at a crosswalk you would have no problems. That's the problem on Wilton Drive all these dinner mashers think they can cross anywhere they want. How hard is it to cross at a crosswalk? Apparently these dinner mashers think they are entitled to do what ever they want. I hope they raise the speed limit on wilton drive to 70.[/quote:1jb11ota]

So now I guess all gay people are RETARDS for wanting a police department to patrol major roads with security against traffic violaters and speeders. If you are a police person it shows you how dumb you are. We cross at crosswalks and it makes no difference if you are potential road kill at a crosswalk or in the middle of a block. The reckless driving is out of control and no person in the city goverment will admit it. This is a major problem waiting to happen and it will in time. Shutting ones eyes to a major public safety issue just raises the stakes when the incident occurs.[/quote:1jb11ota]

so what great ideas do you have to slow down traffic...???????????? The city as a whole has been working on this issue...its not a simple matter since this is a state road...stop your complaining...if you arent part of the solution..you are part of the problem. Its has nothing to do with it being a gay issue......[/quote:1jb11ota]
Oh it is not a gay issue. Who are the consumers walking around wilton drive. Why do not we put the motorcycle patrol with radar guns to slow people down. Parking the vacant police cars is a joke and the city administration continues to insult the business owners who have invested thousands of dollars to increases traffic on the drive but have no cooperation from the police department. You will see many more vacant storefronts in the island city unless you have have a whole new city goverment that understands economic redevelopment. Vote JF

Oh it is not a gay issue. Who are the consumers walking around wilton drive. Why do not we put the motorcycle patrol with radar guns to slow people down. Parking the vacant police cars is a joke and the city administration continues to insult the business owners who have invested thousands of dollars to increases traffic on the drive but have no cooperation from the police department. You will see many more vacant storefronts in the island city unless you have have a whole new city goverment that understands economic redevelopment. Vote JF

MAYBE ITS BECAUSE WE HAVENT HAD A MOTORCYCLE UNITS FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW...DUH, BUT TO SAY OUR POLICE DEPT DOESNT CARE IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE.APPARENTLY YOU DONT ATTEND ANY MEETING ON THE TRAFFIC ISSUE THAT THE CITY IS DISCUSSING....JUST SIT BACK ON YOUR BUTT AND COMPLAIN,,,THAT ACCOMPLISHES ALOT. SO DONT VOTE JK....

[quote="Wolf Ghost":2xtavolo][quote="Mr. Info":2xtavolo]Since the Sun Sentinel has not allowed comments after the article, we can post comments here.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

How True ![/quote:2xtavolo]
Be leavin very soon. Need to go a police agency that is proactive, and does not disgrace us all by parking abadoned police cars on wilton drive so the community of wilton manors really thinks we care about the safety of the people who live and visit the city. Come on now, it is all about the EGO of RP and the rest of the governing body namely MAYOR SCOTT NEWTON, CITY MANAGER JOSEPH GALLEGOS and the rest of the CITY COMMISSION, JOE ANGELO,TED GALLETIS GARY RESNICK and the dwarf, CRAIG SHERRITT. They all have destroyed a public service agency.[/quote:2xtavolo]

As a vet who is leaving very quickly is that the people of wilton manors need to say a prayer about public safety. Because the cops in the island city could care less about the citizens. Get a new city council who care about employees. Maybe then the crime rate will go down, and not spike since the last 2 years.

[quote="Leavin the manors":x55a07o3][quote="Wolf Ghost":x55a07o3][quote="Mr. Info":x55a07o3]Since the Sun Sentinel has not allowed comments after the article, we can post comments here.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

How True ![/quote:x55a07o3]
Be leavin very soon. Need to go a police agency that is proactive, and does not disgrace us all by parking abadoned police cars on wilton drive so the community of wilton manors really thinks we care about the safety of the people who live and visit the city. Come on now, it is all about the EGO of RP and the rest of the governing body namely MAYOR SCOTT NEWTON, CITY MANAGER JOSEPH GALLEGOS and the rest of the CITY COMMISSION, JOE ANGELO,TED GALLETIS GARY RESNICK and the dwarf, CRAIG SHERRITT. They all have destroyed a public service agency.[/quote:x55a07o3]

As a vet who is leaving very quickly is that the people of wilton manors need to say a prayer about public safety. Because the cops in the island city could care less about the citizens. Get a new city council who care about employees. Maybe then the crime rate will go down, and not spike since the last 2 years.[/quote:x55a07o3]

Speak English much??? Learn to write a sentence......and to make sense..what does caring about city employees have to do with crime..are they the criminals, lol....

[quote="Get me outa this dump":3a8l31lj][quote="Leavin the manors":3a8l31lj][quote="Wolf Ghost":3a8l31lj][quote="Mr. Info":3a8l31lj]Since the Sun Sentinel has not allowed comments after the article, we can post comments here.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

How True ![/quote:3a8l31lj]
Be leavin very soon. Need to go a police agency that is proactive, and does not disgrace us all by parking abadoned police cars on wilton drive so the community of wilton manors really thinks we care about the safety of the people who live and visit the city. Come on now, it is all about the EGO of RP and the rest of the governing body namely MAYOR SCOTT NEWTON, CITY MANAGER JOSEPH GALLEGOS and the rest of the CITY COMMISSION, JOE ANGELO,TED GALLETIS GARY RESNICK and the dwarf, CRAIG SHERRITT. They all have destroyed a public service agency.[/quote:3a8l31lj]

As a vet who is leaving very quickly is that the people of wilton manors need to say a prayer about public safety. Because the cops in the island city could care less about the citizens. Get a new city council who care about employees. Maybe then the crime rate will go down, and not spike since the last 2 years.[/quote:3a8l31lj]

Speak English much??? Learn to write a sentence......and to make sense..what does caring about city employees have to do with crime..are they the criminals, lol....[/quote:3a8l31lj]

No the city employees are still a vital part of this city despite the HUGE RAISES AND PENSION BENEFITS this MAYOR SCOTT NEWTON, CITY COMMISSIONERS JOE ANGELO, TED GALATIS, GARY RESNICK and CRAIG SHERRIT gave the COPS. Who is cutting the grass and cleaning up all the DOG CRAP in Colohatchee Park, the city employees . We all know the DOG CRAP park was created because the WILTON MANORS POLICE could not control all the OPEN SEX by gay males and the stupid channel 7 story by chief richard perez which only fueled the fire to see if they could get caught or get away with it.He made the problem much, much worse than it ever was.Then they wanted walking traffic going through the park. What a disaster the city commission and city manager has created. How much sod have do we have to replace EVERY tuesday along the dog park because of DOG CRAP not to mention all the human semon which has to be disinfected on the boardwalk. Yea city commission, mayor and MR GALLEGOS, keep dumping on the city employees.

[quote="city employee":2iepd7cv][quote="Get me outa this dump":2iepd7cv][quote="Leavin the manors":2iepd7cv][quote="Wolf Ghost":2iepd7cv][quote="Mr. Info":2iepd7cv]Since the Sun Sentinel has not allowed comments after the article, we can post comments here.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

How True ![/quote:2iepd7cv]
Be leavin very soon. Need to go a police agency that is proactive, and does not disgrace us all by parking abadoned police cars on wilton drive so the community of wilton manors really thinks we care about the safety of the people who live and visit the city. Come on now, it is all about the EGO of RP and the rest of the governing body namely MAYOR SCOTT NEWTON, CITY MANAGER JOSEPH GALLEGOS and the rest of the CITY COMMISSION, JOE ANGELO,TED GALLETIS GARY RESNICK and the dwarf, CRAIG SHERRITT. They all have destroyed a public service agency.[/quote:2iepd7cv]

As a vet who is leaving very quickly is that the people of wilton manors need to say a prayer about public safety. Because the cops in the island city could care less about the citizens. Get a new city council who care about employees. Maybe then the crime rate will go down, and not spike since the last 2 years.[/quote:2iepd7cv]

Speak English much??? Learn to write a sentence......and to make sense..what does caring about city employees have to do with crime..are they the criminals, lol....[/quote:2iepd7cv]

No the city employees are still a vital part of this city despite the HUGE RAISES AND PENSION BENEFITS this MAYOR SCOTT NEWTON, CITY COMMISSIONERS JOE ANGELO, TED GALATIS, GARY RESNICK and CRAIG SHERRIT gave the COPS. Who is cutting the grass and cleaning up all the DOG CRAP in Colohatchee Park, the city employees . We all know the DOG CRAP park was created because the WILTON MANORS POLICE could not control all the OPEN sex by gay males and the stupid channel 7 story by chief richard perez which only fueled the fire to see if they could get caught or get away with it.He made the problem much, much worse than it ever was.Then they wanted walking traffic going through the park. What a disaster the city commission and city manager has created. How much sod have do we have to replace EVERY tuesday along the dog park because of DOG CRAP not to mention all the human semon which has to be disinfected on the boardwalk. Yea city commission, mayor and MR GALLEGOS, keep dumping on the city employees.[/quote:2iepd7cv]

BOO HOO.....BE THANKFUL YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A JOB W/ BENEFITS...ALOT OF PEOPLE DONT, IF YOU ARE UNHAPPY CHANGE JOBS..DOUBT THAT WILL HAPPEN THOUGH BECAUSE CITY EMPLOYEES HAVE IT TOO GOOD!!!

[quote="Done with this goverment":1cw1by8u][quote="city employee":1cw1by8u][quote="Get me outa this dump":1cw1by8u][quote="Leavin the manors":1cw1by8u][quote="Wolf Ghost":1cw1by8u][quote="Mr. Info":1cw1by8u]Since the Sun Sentinel has not allowed comments after the article, we can post comments here.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

How True ![/quote:1cw1by8u]
Be leavin very soon. Need to go a police agency that is proactive, and does not disgrace us all by parking abadoned police cars on wilton drive so the community of wilton manors really thinks we care about the safety of the people who live and visit the city. Come on now, it is all about the EGO of RP and the rest of the governing body namely MAYOR SCOTT NEWTON, CITY MANAGER JOSEPH GALLEGOS and the rest of the CITY COMMISSION, JOE ANGELO,TED GALLETIS GARY RESNICK and the dwarf, CRAIG SHERRITT. They all have destroyed a public service agency.[/quote:1cw1by8u]

As a vet who is leaving very quickly is that the people of wilton manors need to say a prayer about public safety. Because the cops in the island city could care less about the citizens. Get a new city council who care about employees. Maybe then the crime rate will go down, and not spike since the last 2 years.[/quote:1cw1by8u]

Speak English much??? Learn to write a sentence......and to make sense..what does caring about city employees have to do with crime..are they the criminals, lol....[/quote:1cw1by8u]

No the city employees are still a vital part of this city despite the HUGE RAISES AND PENSION BENEFITS this MAYOR SCOTT NEWTON, CITY COMMISSIONERS JOE ANGELO, TED GALATIS, GARY RESNICK and CRAIG SHERRIT gave the COPS. Who is cutting the grass and cleaning up all the DOG CRAP in Colohatchee Park, the city employees . We all know the DOG CRAP park was created because the WILTON MANORS POLICE could not control all the OPEN sex by gay males and the stupid channel 7 story by chief richard perez which only fueled the fire to see if they could get caught or get away with it.He made the problem much, much worse than it ever was.Then they wanted walking traffic going through the park. What a disaster the city commission and city manager has created. How much sod have do we have to replace EVERY tuesday along the dog park because of DOG CRAP not to mention all the human semon which has to be disinfected on the boardwalk. Yea city commission, mayor and MR GALLEGOS, keep dumping on the city employees.[/quote:1cw1by8u]

BOO HOO.....BE THANKFUL YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A JOB W/ BENEFITS...ALOT OF PEOPLE DONT, IF YOU ARE UNHAPPY CHANGE JOBS..DOUBT THAT WILL HAPPEN THOUGH BECAUSE CITY EMPLOYEES HAVE IT TOO GOOD!!![/quote:1cw1by8u]

Yea city employees have it to good! Remember that next time the useless mayor, city manager or city commissioner shoots off their mouth in response to a public comment at a commission meeting. Who has to clean up the mess or deal with the complaint to make them look good. A CITY EMPLOYEE !

[quote="Anonymous":2gsy6sx0][quote="Joseph Freehan":2gsy6sx0][quote="Grey Beard":2gsy6sx0][quote="Wolf Ghost":2gsy6sx0][quote="Mr. Info":2gsy6sx0]Since the Sun Sentinel has not allowed comments after the article, we can post comments here.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

How True !

For us left who care about the community at the Wilton Manors Police Department it gets worse each day. One of the last supervisors who watched out for us ( part time) has left leaving the NAZI SS from Fort Lauderdale Police Department who came in on behalf of the city manager, joseph gallegos, mayor scott newton, commissioner joe angelo and the rest of the current city commission . Remember how Naugle ditched gay people, you all have to listen to Chief Perez and how he wants nothing to do with queer and lesbian folk.

I moved to the wilton manors/south florida in may 07 to relocate with motorola from the chicago area. My partner and I had done extensive research on the community and how it treated and interacted with the gay and lesbian community. We thought the police force and other police forces were gay friendly due to the population of not only wilton manors, victoria park and fort lauderdale as well. First when we come to the drive it is not safe to walk across the street because of the endless supply of speeding cars. When we tried to ask a police officer on artwalk night why no police were present he said the police chief did away with the officers who did the radar inspections because of a consultant and mayors report and the city goverment did not care about the safety of walkers, many of who are gay. If that is true how does that support the people who have businesses along wilton manors drive. I for one will never come back until some controls are established to slow cars down and see to it that safety measures are in place. The officer who was quite rude and flippant said that he had to go because safety is no longer a priority with the police patrols and all we care about is going to the calls. If that is true some serious questions need to be asked of goverment on what the true purpose of its goals are. In chicago and in the suburbs, major srteets are patrolled by officers who issue tickets to violaters and make the police presence visible. The internet sites and publications who stated this police department is gay friendly and are in tune with the community need to revisit that response.

Are you for real...I dont believe a WM officer would EVER make those comments, and If they did im sure you would have gotten their name and called the chief. The officers are out on artwalk night to insure the citizens safety...have you not noticed the orange cones when you are on the drive, its to try and get people to slow down. I for one have seen the empty police cars, but i have also seen the ones with officers doing radar. So, dont tell me the city and the police dept arent doing anything. I agree with another writer, that you cant make people cross where they are suppose to,,,you can have a stop light or whatever, and there will still be people crossing where they arent suppose to....So, how do you think that can be solved?????Once again...someone talking crap that they know nothing about, and have no ideas for improvment....If you feel un welcome in WM you can always move.....

So is that the attitude in this city, if you disagree with the tactics of the city you are trashed. Or told to move out.The excess speeding on wilton manors drive is uncontolable. What the hell do orange cones do!I and my partner went to the the Naked Grape but found that crossing the street was very dangerous to our well being so we will not frequent the businesses on wilton drive until city goverment does something to safeguard the pedestrian traffic of the city. My partner did speak to a wilton manors police officer who said that they did not have enough police officers to help the visitors because they were not paid enough to get good people to apply for pd jobs. What is up with that statement. Jesus, with the taxes I pay on NE 22 drive I cannot imagine employees not getting paid a fair wage.[/quote:2gsy6sx0]Hey retard if you cross at a crosswalk you would have no problems. That's the problem on Wilton Drive all these dinner mashers think they can cross anywhere they want. How hard is it to cross at a crosswalk? Apparently these dinner mashers think they are entitled to do what ever they want. I hope they raise the speed limit on wilton drive to 70.[/quote:2gsy6sx0]

So now I guess all gay people are RETARDS for wanting a police department to patrol major roads with security against traffic violaters and speeders. If you are a police person it shows you how dumb you are. We cross at crosswalks and it makes no difference if you are potential road kill at a crosswalk or in the middle of a block. The reckless driving is out of control and no person in the city goverment will admit it. This is a major problem waiting to happen and it will in time. Shutting ones eyes to a major public safety issue just raises the stakes when the incident occurs.[/quote:2gsy6sx0]

so what great ideas do you have to slow down traffic...???????????? The city as a whole has been working on this issue...its not a simple matter since this is a state road...stop your complaining...if you arent part of the solution..you are part of the problem. Its has nothing to do with it being a gay issue......[/quote:2gsy6sx0]
Oh it is not a gay issue. Who are the consumers walking around wilton drive. Why do not we put the motorcycle patrol with radar guns to slow people down. Parking the vacant police cars is a joke and the city administration continues to insult the business owners who have invested thousands of dollars to increases traffic on the drive but have no cooperation from the police department. You will see many more vacant storefronts in the island city unless you have have a whole new city goverment that understands economic redevelopment. Vote JF[/quote:2gsy6sx0]

I and my partner and 2 friends just tried crossing wilton manors drive from sidelines and came very close to being struck by a dark black tundra and a blue camry. No police were in the vicinity. When I called the dispatch report number I got the fort lauderdale police department who said the wilton manors police were closed for the evening. What the hell kind of public safety protection do people who pay enormous taxes have in this city. We have a police agency who is closed after a certain hour. I guess i need to hire a security force to watch our house in the nightime and patronize cities and businesses who care about the safety of pedestrians and guests.

[quote="Anonymous":k7flz6ac][quote="Anonymous":k7flz6ac][quote="Joseph Freehan":k7flz6ac][quote="Grey Beard":k7flz6ac][quote="Wolf Ghost":k7flz6ac][quote="Mr. Info":k7flz6ac]Since the Sun Sentinel has not allowed comments after the article, we can post comments here.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

How True !

For us left who care about the community at the Wilton Manors Police Department it gets worse each day. One of the last supervisors who watched out for us ( part time) has left leaving the NAZI SS from Fort Lauderdale Police Department who came in on behalf of the city manager, joseph gallegos, mayor scott newton, commissioner joe angelo and the rest of the current city commission . Remember how Naugle ditched gay people, you all have to listen to Chief Perez and how he wants nothing to do with queer and lesbian folk.

I moved to the wilton manors/south florida in may 07 to relocate with motorola from the chicago area. My partner and I had done extensive research on the community and how it treated and interacted with the gay and lesbian community. We thought the police force and other police forces were gay friendly due to the population of not only wilton manors, victoria park and fort lauderdale as well. First when we come to the drive it is not safe to walk across the street because of the endless supply of speeding cars. When we tried to ask a police officer on artwalk night why no police were present he said the police chief did away with the officers who did the radar inspections because of a consultant and mayors report and the city goverment did not care about the safety of walkers, many of who are gay. If that is true how does that support the people who have businesses along wilton manors drive. I for one will never come back until some controls are established to slow cars down and see to it that safety measures are in place. The officer who was quite rude and flippant said that he had to go because safety is no longer a priority with the police patrols and all we care about is going to the calls. If that is true some serious questions need to be asked of goverment on what the true purpose of its goals are. In chicago and in the suburbs, major srteets are patrolled by officers who issue tickets to violaters and make the police presence visible. The internet sites and publications who stated this police department is gay friendly and are in tune with the community need to revisit that response.

Are you for real...I dont believe a WM officer would EVER make those comments, and If they did im sure you would have gotten their name and called the chief. The officers are out on artwalk night to insure the citizens safety...have you not noticed the orange cones when you are on the drive, its to try and get people to slow down. I for one have seen the empty police cars, but i have also seen the ones with officers doing radar. So, dont tell me the city and the police dept arent doing anything. I agree with another writer, that you cant make people cross where they are suppose to,,,you can have a stop light or whatever, and there will still be people crossing where they arent suppose to....So, how do you think that can be solved?????Once again...someone talking crap that they know nothing about, and have no ideas for improvment....If you feel un welcome in WM you can always move.....

So is that the attitude in this city, if you disagree with the tactics of the city you are trashed. Or told to move out.The excess speeding on wilton manors drive is uncontolable. What the hell do orange cones do!I and my partner went to the the Naked Grape but found that crossing the street was very dangerous to our well being so we will not frequent the businesses on wilton drive until city goverment does something to safeguard the pedestrian traffic of the city. My partner did speak to a wilton manors police officer who said that they did not have enough police officers to help the visitors because they were not paid enough to get good people to apply for pd jobs. What is up with that statement. Jesus, with the taxes I pay on NE 22 drive I cannot imagine employees not getting paid a fair wage.[/quote:k7flz6ac]Hey retard if you cross at a crosswalk you would have no problems. That's the problem on Wilton Drive all these dinner mashers think they can cross anywhere they want. How hard is it to cross at a crosswalk? Apparently these dinner mashers think they are entitled to do what ever they want. I hope they raise the speed limit on wilton drive to 70.[/quote:k7flz6ac]

So now I guess all gay people are RETARDS for wanting a police department to patrol major roads with security against traffic violaters and speeders. If you are a police person it shows you how dumb you are. We cross at crosswalks and it makes no difference if you are potential road kill at a crosswalk or in the middle of a block. The reckless driving is out of control and no person in the city goverment will admit it. This is a major problem waiting to happen and it will in time. Shutting ones eyes to a major public safety issue just raises the stakes when the incident occurs.[/quote:k7flz6ac]

so what great ideas do you have to slow down traffic...???????????? The city as a whole has been working on this issue...its not a simple matter since this is a state road...stop your complaining...if you arent part of the solution..you are part of the problem. Its has nothing to do with it being a gay issue......[/quote:k7flz6ac]
Oh it is not a gay issue. Who are the consumers walking around wilton drive. Why do not we put the motorcycle patrol with radar guns to slow people down. Parking the vacant police cars is a joke and the city administration continues to insult the business owners who have invested thousands of dollars to increases traffic on the drive but have no cooperation from the police department. You will see many more vacant storefronts in the island city unless you have have a whole new city goverment that understands economic redevelopment. Vote JF[/quote:k7flz6ac]

I and my partner and 2 friends just tried crossing wilton manors drive from sidelines and came very close to being struck by a dark black tundra and a blue camry. No police were in the vicinity. When I called the dispatch report number I got the fort lauderdale police department who said the wilton manors police were closed for the evening. What the hell kind of public safety protection do people who pay enormous taxes have in this city. We have a police agency who is closed after a certain hour. I guess i need to hire a security force to watch our house in the nightime and patronize cities and businesses who care about the safety of pedestrians and guests.[/quote:k7flz6ac]

If it had been a true emer. you would have called 911 and received help wheather the inside office is open or not(which has been closed for yrs at night) the officers are out working the streets. Maybe you should be glad there were no officers there when you "jaywalked" since YOU were breaking the law. Mabe you should cross where you are suppose to nxt time. The blame lies on you...no one else.

[quote="Grey Beard":1q4fv0h9][quote="Wolf Ghost":1q4fv0h9][quote="Mr. Info":1q4fv0h9]Since the Sun Sentinel has not allowed comments after the article, we can post comments here.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

How True !

For us left who care about the community at the Wilton Manors Police Department it gets worse each day. One of the last supervisors who watched out for us ( part time) has left leaving the NAZI SS from Fort Lauderdale Police Department who came in on behalf of the city manager, joseph gallegos, mayor scott newton, commissioner joe angelo and the rest of the current city commission . Remember how Naugle ditched gay people, you all have to listen to Chief Perez and how he wants nothing to do with queer and lesbian folk.

I moved to the wilton manors/south florida in may 07 to relocate with motorola from the chicago area. My partner and I had done extensive research on the community and how it treated and interacted with the gay and lesbian community. We thought the police force and other police forces were gay friendly due to the population of not only wilton manors, victoria park and fort lauderdale as well. First when we come to the drive it is not safe to walk across the street because of the endless supply of speeding cars. When we tried to ask a police officer on artwalk night why no police were present he said the police chief did away with the officers who did the radar inspections because of a consultant and mayors report and the city goverment did not care about the safety of walkers, many of who are gay. If that is true how does that support the people who have businesses along wilton manors drive. I for one will never come back until some controls are established to slow cars down and see to it that safety measures are in place. The officer who was quite rude and flippant said that he had to go because safety is no longer a priority with the police patrols and all we care about is going to the calls. If that is true some serious questions need to be asked of goverment on what the true purpose of its goals are. In chicago and in the suburbs, major srteets are patrolled by officers who issue tickets to violaters and make the police presence visible. The internet sites and publications who stated this police department is gay friendly and are in tune with the community need to revisit that response.

Are you for real...I dont believe a WM officer would EVER make those comments, and If they did im sure you would have gotten their name and called the chief. The officers are out on artwalk night to insure the citizens safety...have you not noticed the orange cones when you are on the drive, its to try and get people to slow down. I for one have seen the empty police cars, but i have also seen the ones with officers doing radar. So, dont tell me the city and the police dept arent doing anything. I agree with another writer, that you cant make people cross where they are suppose to,,,you can have a stop light or whatever, and there will still be people crossing where they arent suppose to....So, how do you think that can be solved?????Once again...someone talking crap that they know nothing about, and have no ideas for improvment....If you feel un welcome in WM you can always move.....

So is that the attitude in this city, if you disagree with the tactics of the city you are trashed. Or told to move out.The excess speeding on wilton manors drive is uncontolable. What the hell do orange cones do!I and my partner went to the the Naked Grape but found that crossing the street was very dangerous to our well being so we will not frequent the businesses on wilton drive until city goverment does something to safeguard the pedestrian traffic of the city. My partner did speak to a wilton manors police officer who said that they did not have enough police officers to help the visitors because they were not paid enough to get good people to apply for pd jobs. What is up with that statement. Jesus, with the taxes I pay on NE 22 drive I cannot imagine employees not getting paid a fair wage.[/quote:1q4fv0h9]Hey retard if you cross at a crosswalk you would have no problems. That's the problem on Wilton Drive all these dinner mashers think they can cross anywhere they want. How hard is it to cross at a crosswalk? Apparently these dinner mashers think they are entitled to do what ever they want. I hope they raise the speed limit on wilton drive to 70.[/quote:1q4fv0h9]

So now I guess all gay people are RETARDS for wanting a police department to patrol major roads with security against traffic violaters and speeders. If you are a police person it shows you how dumb you are. We cross at crosswalks and it makes no difference if you are potential road kill at a crosswalk or in the middle of a block. The reckless driving is out of control and no person in the city goverment will admit it. This is a major problem waiting to happen and it will in time. Shutting ones eyes to a major public safety issue just raises the stakes when the incident occurs.[/quote:1q4fv0h9]

Every weekend is a crapshoot on when somebody will get run over on the drive. Funny how you see 2 cop cars at Mr Donut but none patrolling the main streets. I guess this shows what the priorities of the pd are?

[quote="Joseph Freehan":3r52mvhg][quote="Grey Beard":3r52mvhg][quote="Wolf Ghost":3r52mvhg][quote="Mr. Info":3r52mvhg]Since the Sun Sentinel has not allowed comments after the article, we can post comments here.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

How True !

For us left who care about the community at the Wilton Manors Police Department it gets worse each day. One of the last supervisors who watched out for us ( part time) has left leaving the NAZI SS from Fort Lauderdale Police Department who came in on behalf of the city manager, joseph gallegos, mayor scott newton, commissioner joe angelo and the rest of the current city commission . Remember how Naugle ditched gay people, you all have to listen to Chief Perez and how he wants nothing to do with queer and lesbian folk.

I moved to the wilton manors/south florida in may 07 to relocate with motorola from the chicago area. My partner and I had done extensive research on the community and how it treated and interacted with the gay and lesbian community. We thought the police force and other police forces were gay friendly due to the population of not only wilton manors, victoria park and fort lauderdale as well. First when we come to the drive it is not safe to walk across the street because of the endless supply of speeding cars. When we tried to ask a police officer on artwalk night why no police were present he said the police chief did away with the officers who did the radar inspections because of a consultant and mayors report and the city goverment did not care about the safety of walkers, many of who are gay. If that is true how does that support the people who have businesses along wilton manors drive. I for one will never come back until some controls are established to slow cars down and see to it that safety measures are in place. The officer who was quite rude and flippant said that he had to go because safety is no longer a priority with the police patrols and all we care about is going to the calls. If that is true some serious questions need to be asked of goverment on what the true purpose of its goals are. In chicago and in the suburbs, major srteets are patrolled by officers who issue tickets to violaters and make the police presence visible. The internet sites and publications who stated this police department is gay friendly and are in tune with the community need to revisit that response.

Are you for real...I dont believe a WM officer would EVER make those comments, and If they did im sure you would have gotten their name and called the chief. The officers are out on artwalk night to insure the citizens safety...have you not noticed the orange cones when you are on the drive, its to try and get people to slow down. I for one have seen the empty police cars, but i have also seen the ones with officers doing radar. So, dont tell me the city and the police dept arent doing anything. I agree with another writer, that you cant make people cross where they are suppose to,,,you can have a stop light or whatever, and there will still be people crossing where they arent suppose to....So, how do you think that can be solved?????Once again...someone talking crap that they know nothing about, and have no ideas for improvment....If you feel un welcome in WM you can always move.....

So is that the attitude in this city, if you disagree with the tactics of the city you are trashed. Or told to move out.The excess speeding on wilton manors drive is uncontolable. What the hell do orange cones do!I and my partner went to the the Naked Grape but found that crossing the street was very dangerous to our well being so we will not frequent the businesses on wilton drive until city goverment does something to safeguard the pedestrian traffic of the city. My partner did speak to a wilton manors police officer who said that they did not have enough police officers to help the visitors because they were not paid enough to get good people to apply for pd jobs. What is up with that statement. Jesus, with the taxes I pay on NE 22 drive I cannot imagine employees not getting paid a fair wage.[/quote:3r52mvhg]Hey retard if you cross at a crosswalk you would have no problems. That's the problem on Wilton Drive all these dinner mashers think they can cross anywhere they want. How hard is it to cross at a crosswalk? Apparently these dinner mashers think they are entitled to do what ever they want. I hope they raise the speed limit on wilton drive to 70.[/quote:3r52mvhg]

So now I guess all gay people are RETARDS for wanting a police department to patrol major roads with security against traffic violaters and speeders. If you are a police person it shows you how dumb you are. We cross at crosswalks and it makes no difference if you are potential road kill at a crosswalk or in the middle of a block. The reckless driving is out of control and no person in the city goverment will admit it. This is a major problem waiting to happen and it will in time. Shutting ones eyes to a major public safety issue just raises the stakes when the incident occurs.[/quote:3r52mvhg]

Every weekend is a crapshoot on when somebody will get run over on the drive. Funny how you see 2 cop cars at Mr Donut but none patrolling the main streets. I guess this shows what the priorities of the pd are?[/quote:3r52mvhg]

Mr Donut?? very funny, we never hear jokes about cops and donuts...very original.

oh yea....they think they are soooo funny, they should be story tellers because they dont ever speak the truth about anything on here., and they arent just officers, the general public uses this for their own personal agenda...too bad no one pays attention...it is entertaining at times, lol

oh yea....they think they are soooo funny, they should be story tellers because they dont ever speak the truth about anything on here., and they arent just officers, the general public uses this for their own personal agenda...too bad no one pays attention...it is entertaining at times, lol

Show me the blog law that says the general public cannot contribute to this site. Yes the general public should pay more attention to information on this site, special attention to a certain city commissioner being investigated by the Ft Lauderdale District Attorney for PUBLIC CORRUPTION.

[quote="happy memorial day":uyq3dojv]oh yea....they think they are soooo funny, they should be story tellers because they dont ever speak the truth about anything on here., and they arent just officers, the general public uses this for their own personal agenda...too bad no one pays attention...it is entertaining at times, lol

Show me the blog law that says the general public cannot contribute to this site. Yes the general public should pay more attention to information on this site, special attention to a certain city commissioner being investigated by the Ft Lauderdale District Attorney for PUBLIC CORRUPTION.[/quote:uyq3dojv]

No one says the general public cant write on here....its just all the info on here is for personal agendas...Still waiting on the crap hitting the fan on JA that has been stated on here for months...hasnt happened and never will..move on to some other drama you create.

[quote="happy memorial day":16ahem1i]oh yea....they think they are soooo funny, they should be story tellers because they dont ever speak the truth about anything on here., and they arent just officers, the general public uses this for their own personal agenda...too bad no one pays attention...it is entertaining at times, lol

Show me the blog law that says the general public cannot contribute to this site. Yes the general public should pay more attention to information on this site, special attention to a certain city commissioner being investigated by the Ft Lauderdale District Attorney for PUBLIC CORRUPTION.

No one says the general public cant write on here....its just all the info on here is for personal agendas...Still waiting on the crap hitting the fan on JA that has been stated on here for months...hasnt happened and never will..move on to some other drama you create.[/quote:16ahem1i]

Seems to me the investigation is still open and EXPANDING into other areas of misuse of public funds and corruption by elected officials. You can huff and pull, but the evidence will take the investigation into areas where nobody on the BEOO Board wants to go. And who signed the checks, Wilton Manors City Commissioner Joe Angelo... The truth can be very, very painfull.

[quote="Jane Q Public":pp5hkh05][quote="happy memorial day":pp5hkh05]oh yea....they think they are soooo funny, they should be story tellers because they dont ever speak the truth about anything on here., and they arent just officers, the general public uses this for their own personal agenda...too bad no one pays attention...it is entertaining at times, lol

Show me the blog law that says the general public cannot contribute to this site. Yes the general public should pay more attention to information on this site, special attention to a certain city commissioner being investigated by the Ft Lauderdale District Attorney for PUBLIC CORRUPTION.

No one says the general public cant write on here....its just all the info on here is for personal agendas...Still waiting on the crap hitting the fan on JA that has been stated on here for months...hasnt happened and never will..move on to some other drama you create.[/quote:pp5hkh05]

Seems to me the investigation is still open and EXPANDING into other areas of misuse of public funds and corruption by elected officials. You can huff and pull, but the evidence will take the investigation into areas where nobody on the BEOO Board wants to go. And who signed the checks, Wilton Manors City Commissioner Joe Angelo... The truth can be very, very painfull.[/quote:pp5hkh05]

BLAH, BLAH, BLAH...ALL TALK AND NO TRUTH....AND HOW DO YOU KNOW WHO SIGNED THE CHECKS THAT MAY BE IN ??? BLAG, BLAH

[quote=drama][quote="Jane Q Public":a3df9pad][quote="happy memorial day":a3df9pad]oh yea....they think they are soooo funny, they should be story tellers because they dont ever speak the truth about anything on here., and they arent just officers, the general public uses this for their own personal agenda...too bad no one pays attention...it is entertaining at times, lol

Show me the blog law that says the general public cannot contribute to this site. Yes the general public should pay more attention to information on this site, special attention to a certain city commissioner being investigated by the Ft Lauderdale District Attorney for PUBLIC CORRUPTION.

No one says the general public cant write on here....its just all the info on here is for personal agendas...Still waiting on the crap hitting the fan on JA that has been stated on here for months...hasnt happened and never will..move on to some other drama you create.[/quote:a3df9pad]

Seems to me the investigation is still open and EXPANDING into other areas of misuse of public funds and corruption by elected officials. You can huff and pull, but the evidence will take the investigation into areas where nobody on the BEOO Board wants to go. And who signed the checks, Wilton Manors City Commissioner Joe Angelo... The truth can be very, very painfull.[/quote:a3df9pad]

BLAH, BLAH, BLAH...ALL TALK AND NO TRUTH....AND HOW DO YOU KNOW WHO SIGNED THE CHECKS THAT MAY BE IN ??? BLAG, BLAH[/quote:a3df9pad]

A certain member of the BEOO is under a additional district attorney investigation for misusing a personal city expense account and routing monies to a certain pastor at MT OLIVE CHURCH for a bonus payment. The pastor seems to be a political supporter of a WM CITY COMMISSIONER JA. If the shoe fits.

[quote=drama][quote="Jane Q Public":1gziqoad][quote="happy memorial day":1gziqoad]oh yea....they think they are soooo funny, they should be story tellers because they dont ever speak the truth about anything on here., and they arent just officers, the general public uses this for their own personal agenda...too bad no one pays attention...it is entertaining at times, lol

Show me the blog law that says the general public cannot contribute to this site. Yes the general public should pay more attention to information on this site, special attention to a certain city commissioner being investigated by the Ft Lauderdale District Attorney for PUBLIC CORRUPTION.

No one says the general public cant write on here....its just all the info on here is for personal agendas...Still waiting on the crap hitting the fan on JA that has been stated on here for months...hasnt happened and never will..move on to some other drama you create.

Seems to me the investigation is still open and EXPANDING into other areas of misuse of public funds and corruption by elected officials. You can huff and pull, but the evidence will take the investigation into areas where nobody on the BEOO Board wants to go. And who signed the checks, Wilton Manors City Commissioner Joe Angelo... The truth can be very, very painfull.[/quote:1gziqoad]

BLAH, BLAH, BLAH...ALL TALK AND NO TRUTH....AND HOW DO YOU KNOW WHO SIGNED THE CHECKS THAT MAY BE IN ??? BLAG, BLAH[/quote:1gziqoad]

A certain member of the BEOO is under a additional district attorney investigation for misusing a personal city expense account and routing monies to a certain pastor at MT OLIVE CHURCH for a bonus payment. The pastor seems to be a political supporter of a WM CITY COMMISSIONER JA. If the shoe fits.[/quote:1gziqoad]

where do you come up with this stuff??? too funny....

[quote=drama][quote="Jane Q Public":1szl510l][quote="happy memorial day":1szl510l]oh yea....they think they are soooo funny, they should be story tellers because they dont ever speak the truth about anything on here., and they arent just officers, the general public uses this for their own personal agenda...too bad no one pays attention...it is entertaining at times, lol

Show me the blog law that says the general public cannot contribute to this site. Yes the general public should pay more attention to information on this site, special attention to a certain city commissioner being investigated by the Ft Lauderdale District Attorney for PUBLIC CORRUPTION.

No one says the general public cant write on here....its just all the info on here is for personal agendas...Still waiting on the crap hitting the fan on JA that has been stated on here for months...hasnt happened and never will..move on to some other drama you create.

Seems to me the investigation is still open and EXPANDING into other areas of misuse of public funds and corruption by elected officials. You can huff and pull, but the evidence will take the investigation into areas where nobody on the BEOO Board wants to go. And who signed the checks, Wilton Manors City Commissioner Joe Angelo... The truth can be very, very painfull.

BLAH, BLAH, BLAH...ALL TALK AND NO TRUTH....AND HOW DO YOU KNOW WHO SIGNED THE CHECKS THAT MAY BE IN ??? BLAG, BLAH[/quote:1szl510l]

A certain member of the BEOO is under a additional district attorney investigation for misusing a personal city expense account and routing monies to a certain pastor at MT OLIVE CHURCH for a bonus payment. The pastor seems to be a political supporter of a WM CITY COMMISSIONER JA. If the shoe fits.[/quote:1szl510l]

where do you come up with this stuff??? too funny....[/quote:1szl510l]

still waiting, for proof of all you talk...oh what Iam i thinking,,,NO PROOF..just talking crap...get a life...

[quote=drama][quote="Jane Q Public":rk0yxh75][quote="happy memorial day":rk0yxh75]oh yea....they think they are soooo funny, they should be story tellers because they dont ever speak the truth about anything on here., and they arent just officers, the general public uses this for their own personal agenda...too bad no one pays attention...it is entertaining at times, lol

Show me the blog law that says the general public cannot contribute to this site. Yes the general public should pay more attention to information on this site, special attention to a certain city commissioner being investigated by the Ft Lauderdale District Attorney for PUBLIC CORRUPTION.

No one says the general public cant write on here....its just all the info on here is for personal agendas...Still waiting on the crap hitting the fan on JA that has been stated on here for months...hasnt happened and never will..move on to some other drama you create.

Seems to me the investigation is still open and EXPANDING into other areas of misuse of public funds and corruption by elected officials. You can huff and pull, but the evidence will take the investigation into areas where nobody on the BEOO Board wants to go. And who signed the checks, Wilton Manors City Commissioner Joe Angelo... The truth can be very, very painfull.

BLAH, BLAH, BLAH...ALL TALK AND NO TRUTH....AND HOW DO YOU KNOW WHO SIGNED THE CHECKS THAT MAY BE IN ??? BLAG, BLAH

A certain member of the BEOO is under a additional district attorney investigation for misusing a personal city expense account and routing monies to a certain pastor at MT OLIVE CHURCH for a bonus payment. The pastor seems to be a political supporter of a WM CITY COMMISSIONER JA. If the shoe fits.[/quote:rk0yxh75]

where do you come up with this stuff??? too funny....[/quote:rk0yxh75]

still waiting, for proof of all you talk...oh what Iam i thinking,,,NO PROOF..just talking crap...get a life...[/quote:rk0yxh75]

This is so so true, only personal agenda's on this website.

Since the Sun Sentinel has not allowed comments after the article, we can post comments here.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

Who will CHIEF IRON FIST pick as the new CAPTAIN. Probably someone who as an administrator will stick it over and over again to te rank and file. And if CH leaves as a PBA Rep with EC slotted to his arse kissen position, what does that leave us as a union rep. GG. He does not watch your back in the locker room ( although he might like to), what happens when you need a PBA rep independent of the perez administration. We all are so screwed that we should all bend over. God help us if we are proactive and shoot a bad guy. Who are you going to have you back you up?

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

Who will CHIEF IRON FIST pick as the new CAPTAIN. Probably someone who as an administrator will stick it over and over again to te rank and file. And if CH leaves as a PBA Rep with EC slotted to his arse kissen position, what does that leave us as a union rep. GG. He does not watch your back in the locker room ( although he might like to), what happens when you need a PBA rep independent of the perez administration. We all are so screwed that we should all bend over. God help us if we are proactive and shoot a bad guy. Who are you going to have you back you up?

Yes. We are very screwed to the point that many officers are not wanting to do their job in protecting the citizens of Wilton Manors because of the massive amount of mistrust of EC and GG as PBA Union Reps. IF CH leaves, we will be thrown to the wolves as the rank and file have NO confidence in the leadership abilities ( they have none)of chief perez or captain seibert. And a/capt EC. What a joke.When have they ever backed us against the city. Actually they have put more knives in our backs. But at least they are consistent. Just keep watching out for daggers from behind. We all know who the present targets are. :wink:

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

Is the time coming close that the richard e perez cancer and inept administration might be given the boot along with the city manager? Some commission types are thinkin that the city hall/pd complex costs have gotten way out of control and blame needs to be paired on those 2 so the commission and mayor can be insulated from citizen backlash. Remember it is a election year. The budget review committee and steve zollo have some very good ideas..............

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

Is the time coming close that the richard e perez cancer and inept administration might be given the boot along with the city manager? Some commission types are thinkin that the city hall/pd complex costs have gotten way out of control and blame needs to be paired on those 2 so the commission and mayor can be insulated from citizen backlash. Remember it is a election year. The budget review committee and steve zollo have some very good ideas..............[/quote:y5ph6ada]

Last time I checked the city commission meetings are open to the public...if there were any real complaints I think they would be there,,,and not on this site....

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

Is the time coming close that the richard e perez cancer and inept administration might be given the boot along with the city manager? Some commission types are thinkin that the city hall/pd complex costs have gotten way out of control and blame needs to be paired on those 2 so the commission and mayor can be insulated from citizen backlash. Remember it is a election year. The budget review committee and steve zollo have some very good ideas..............

Last time I checked the city commission meetings are open to the public...if there were any real complaints I think they would be there,,,and not on this site....[/quote:3bp36bzu]
Commission Meetings! all of them just sit there following Newton lead. Questions do not get answered. Its time for new blood

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

Is the time coming close that the richard e perez cancer and inept administration might be given the boot along with the city manager? Some commission types are thinkin that the city hall/pd complex costs have gotten way out of control and blame needs to be paired on those 2 so the commission and mayor can be insulated from citizen backlash. Remember it is a election year. The budget review committee and steve zollo have some very good ideas..............

Last time I checked the city commission meetings are open to the public...if there were any real complaints I think they would be there,,,and not on this site....
Commission Meetings! all of them just sit there following Newton lead. Questions do not get answered. Its time for new blood[/quote:3vmbcv0m]

Not any real complaints? If the general public saw the massive amount of complaints coming in on the chief and members of his staff they would be barnstorming the steps of city hall. And if you do complain about him or the pd lack of doing anything to slow down traffic on the Drive, he justs love to stare you down along with any other henchmen he brings to the meeting. Check out the last few months of the city managers weekly updates. Full of complaints on perez and others.

[quote="Mr. Info":f07ysxx5]Since the Sun Sentinel has not allowed comments after the article, we can post comments here.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/ ... 5184.story (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-flbmanorscops1014nboct14,0,7615184.story)

Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

Is the time coming close that the richard e perez cancer and inept administration might be given the boot along with the city manager? Some commission types are thinkin that the city hall/pd complex costs have gotten way out of control and blame needs to be paired on those 2 so the commission and mayor can be insulated from citizen backlash. Remember it is a election year. The budget review committee and steve zollo have some very good ideas..............

Last time I checked the city commission meetings are open to the public...if there were any real complaints I think they would be there,,,and not on this site....
Commission Meetings! all of them just sit there following Newton lead. Questions do not get answered. Its time for new blood

Not any real complaints? If the general public saw the massive amount of complaints coming in on the chief and members of his staff they would be barnstorming the steps of city hall. And if you do complain about him or the pd lack of doing anything to slow down traffic on the Drive, he justs love to stare you down along with any other henchmen he brings to the meeting. Check out the last few months of the city managers weekly updates. Full of complaints on perez and others.[/quote:f07ysxx5]

if thats the case..its public record....show us...I dont know about you, but if I have a complaint, someone staring me down as you say wouldnt bother me....show us the CM updates or shut up...

[quote="Mr. Info":1gmt3n11]Since the Sun Sentinel has not allowed comments after the article, we can post comments here.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

Is the time coming close that the richard e perez cancer and inept administration might be given the boot along with the city manager? Some commission types are thinkin that the city hall/pd complex costs have gotten way out of control and blame needs to be paired on those 2 so the commission and mayor can be insulated from citizen backlash. Remember it is a election year. The budget review committee and steve zollo have some very good ideas..............

Last time I checked the city commission meetings are open to the public...if there were any real complaints I think they would be there,,,and not on this site....
Commission Meetings! all of them just sit there following Newton lead. Questions do not get answered. Its time for new blood

Not any real complaints? If the general public saw the massive amount of complaints coming in on the chief and members of his staff they would be barnstorming the steps of city hall. And if you do complain about him or the pd lack of doing anything to slow down traffic on the Drive, he justs love to stare you down along with any other henchmen he brings to the meeting. Check out the last few months of the city managers weekly updates. Full of complaints on perez and others.

if thats the case..its public record....show us...I dont know about you, but if I have a complaint, someone staring me down as you say wouldnt bother me....show us the CM updates or shut up...[/quote:1gmt3n11]
Normally it doe not bother me to get stared dow. But it does when a man has a gun and an highly explosive temper.

[quote="Connie Hawkins":19v1fqxp][quote="Mr. Info":19v1fqxp]Since the Sun Sentinel has not allowed comments after the article, we can post comments here.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/ ... 5184.story (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-flbmanorscops1014nboct14,0,7615184.story)

Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

Is the time coming close that the richard e perez cancer and inept administration might be given the boot along with the city manager? Some commission types are thinkin that the city hall/pd complex costs have gotten way out of control and blame needs to be paired on those 2 so the commission and mayor can be insulated from citizen backlash. Remember it is a election year. The budget review committee and steve zollo have some very good ideas..............

Last time I checked the city commission meetings are open to the public...if there were any real complaints I think they would be there,,,and not on this site....
Commission Meetings! all of them just sit there following Newton lead. Questions do not get answered. Its time for new blood

Not any real complaints? If the general public saw the massive amount of complaints coming in on the chief and members of his staff they would be barnstorming the steps of city hall. And if you do complain about him or the pd lack of doing anything to slow down traffic on the Drive, he justs love to stare you down along with any other henchmen he brings to the meeting. Check out the last few months of the city managers weekly updates. Full of complaints on perez and others.

if thats the case..its public record....show us...I dont know about you, but if I have a complaint, someone staring me down as you say wouldnt bother me....show us the CM updates or shut up...[/quote:19v1fqxp]
Normally it doe not bother me to get stared dow. But it does when a man has a gun and an highly explosive temper.[/quote:19v1fqxp]

Never seen our chief carry a gun in the commission meetings. So, basicly your a wimp...is that what you mean???

[quote="Anonymous":in9tl4ke][quote="Connie Hawkins":in9tl4ke][quote="Mr. Info":in9tl4ke]Since the Sun Sentinel has not allowed comments after the article, we can post comments here.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

Is the time coming close that the richard e perez cancer and inept administration might be given the boot along with the city manager? Some commission types are thinkin that the city hall/pd complex costs have gotten way out of control and blame needs to be paired on those 2 so the commission and mayor can be insulated from citizen backlash. Remember it is a election year. The budget review committee and steve zollo have some very good ideas..............

Last time I checked the city commission meetings are open to the public...if there were any real complaints I think they would be there,,,and not on this site....
Commission Meetings! all of them just sit there following Newton lead. Questions do not get answered. Its time for new blood

Not any real complaints? If the general public saw the massive amount of complaints coming in on the chief and members of his staff they would be barnstorming the steps of city hall. And if you do complain about him or the pd lack of doing anything to slow down traffic on the Drive, he justs love to stare you down along with any other henchmen he brings to the meeting. Check out the last few months of the city managers weekly updates. Full of complaints on perez and others.

if thats the case..its public record....show us...I dont know about you, but if I have a complaint, someone staring me down as you say wouldnt bother me....show us the CM updates or shut up...[/quote:in9tl4ke]
Normally it doe not bother me to get stared dow. But it does when a man has a gun and an highly explosive temper.[/quote:in9tl4ke]

Never seen our chief carry a gun in the commission meetings. So, basicly your a wimp...is that what you mean???[/quote:in9tl4ke]

Just asking. If the chief is a real police officer why isn't he allowed to carry a gun? What would happen if something happend in the city commission meeting as has happend around the country with people going "postal" and shooting people.Would the chief have to call upon an officer who is allowed to carry a gun or rifle to restore order in the chambers. If you wear a uniform or badge, I would suspect carrying a weapon would be a pretty smart thing for your own safety and the people you are supposed to protect in the city.

[quote=jack][quote="Anonymous":2omwr09j][quote="Connie Hawkins":2omwr09j][quote="Mr. Info":2omwr09j]Since the Sun Sentinel has not allowed comments after the article, we can post comments here.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/ ... 5184.story (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-flbmanorscops1014nboct14,0,7615184.story)

Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

Is the time coming close that the richard e perez cancer and inept administration might be given the boot along with the city manager? Some commission types are thinkin that the city hall/pd complex costs have gotten way out of control and blame needs to be paired on those 2 so the commission and mayor can be insulated from citizen backlash. Remember it is a election year. The budget review committee and steve zollo have some very good ideas..............

Last time I checked the city commission meetings are open to the public...if there were any real complaints I think they would be there,,,and not on this site....
Commission Meetings! all of them just sit there following Newton lead. Questions do not get answered. Its time for new blood

Not any real complaints? If the general public saw the massive amount of complaints coming in on the chief and members of his staff they would be barnstorming the steps of city hall. And if you do complain about him or the pd lack of doing anything to slow down traffic on the Drive, he justs love to stare you down along with any other henchmen he brings to the meeting. Check out the last few months of the city managers weekly updates. Full of complaints on perez and others.

if thats the case..its public record....show us...I dont know about you, but if I have a complaint, someone staring me down as you say wouldnt bother me....show us the CM updates or shut up...[/quote:2omwr09j]
Normally it doe not bother me to get stared dow. But it does when a man has a gun and an highly explosive temper.[/quote:2omwr09j]

Never seen our chief carry a gun in the commission meetings. So, basicly your a wimp...is that what you mean???[/quote:2omwr09j]

Just asking. If the chief is a real police officer why isn't he allowed to carry a gun? What would happen if something happend in the city commission meeting as has happend around the country with people going "postal" and shooting people.Would the chief have to call upon an officer who is allowed to carry a gun or rifle to restore order in the chambers. If you wear a uniform or badge, I would suspect carrying a weapon would be a pretty smart thing for your own safety and the people you are supposed to protect in the city.[/quote:2omwr09j]

who says he cant carry a gun??? There you go...making up stories again

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

Is the time coming close that the richard e perez cancer and inept administration might be given the boot along with the city manager? Some commission types are thinkin that the city hall/pd complex costs have gotten way out of control and blame needs to be paired on those 2 so the commission and mayor can be insulated from citizen backlash. Remember it is a election year. The budget review committee and steve zollo have some very good ideas..............

Last time I checked the city commission meetings are open to the public...if there were any real complaints I think they would be there,,,and not on this site....
Commission Meetings! all of them just sit there following Newton lead. Questions do not get answered. Its time for new blood

Not any real complaints? If the general public saw the massive amount of complaints coming in on the chief and members of his staff they would be barnstorming the steps of city hall. And if you do complain about him or the pd lack of doing anything to slow down traffic on the Drive, he justs love to stare you down along with any other henchmen he brings to the meeting. Check out the last few months of the city managers weekly updates. Full of complaints on perez and others.

if thats the case..its public record....show us...I dont know about you, but if I have a complaint, someone staring me down as you say wouldnt bother me....show us the CM updates or shut up...[/quote:3dxfo00e]
Normally it doe not bother me to get stared dow. But it does when a man has a gun and an highly explosive temper.[/quote:3dxfo00e]

Never seen our chief carry a gun in the commission meetings. So, basicly your a wimp...is that what you mean???[/quote:3dxfo00e]

Just asking. If the chief is a real police officer why isn't he allowed to carry a gun? What would happen if something happend in the city commission meeting as has happend around the country with people going "postal" and shooting people.Would the chief have to call upon an officer who is allowed to carry a gun or rifle to restore order in the chambers. If you wear a uniform or badge, I would suspect carrying a weapon would be a pretty smart thing for your own safety and the people you are supposed to protect in the city.[/quote:3dxfo00e]

who says he cant carry a gun??? There you go...making up stories again[/quote:3dxfo00e]

If he does not qualify to carry a pistol in the council meetings, how is he or any other person qualified to be a police officer or chief. We just moved to the states from England so my husband and I are really confused about if the police chief or chief constable are authorized to carry a weapon.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Miranda][quote="jack":29qixe0p][quote="Anonymous":29qixe0p][quote="Connie Hawkins":29qixe0p][quote="Mr. Info":29qixe0p]Since the Sun Sentinel has not allowed comments after the article, we can post comments here.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

Is the time coming close that the richard e perez cancer and inept administration might be given the boot along with the city manager? Some commission types are thinkin that the city hall/pd complex costs have gotten way out of control and blame needs to be paired on those 2 so the commission and mayor can be insulated from citizen backlash. Remember it is a election year. The budget review committee and steve zollo have some very good ideas..............

Last time I checked the city commission meetings are open to the public...if there were any real complaints I think they would be there,,,and not on this site....
Commission Meetings! all of them just sit there following Newton lead. Questions do not get answered. Its time for new blood

Not any real complaints? If the general public saw the massive amount of complaints coming in on the chief and members of his staff they would be barnstorming the steps of city hall. And if you do complain about him or the pd lack of doing anything to slow down traffic on the Drive, he justs love to stare you down along with any other henchmen he brings to the meeting. Check out the last few months of the city managers weekly updates. Full of complaints on perez and others.

if thats the case..its public record....show us...I dont know about you, but if I have a complaint, someone staring me down as you say wouldnt bother me....show us the CM updates or shut up...[/quote:29qixe0p]
Normally it doe not bother me to get stared dow. But it does when a man has a gun and an highly explosive temper.[/quote:29qixe0p]

Never seen our chief carry a gun in the commission meetings. So, basicly your a wimp...is that what you mean???[/quote:29qixe0p]

Just asking. If the chief is a real police officer why isn't he allowed to carry a gun? What would happen if something happend in the city commission meeting as has happend around the country with people going "postal" and shooting people.Would the chief have to call upon an officer who is allowed to carry a gun or rifle to restore order in the chambers. If you wear a uniform or badge, I would suspect carrying a weapon would be a pretty smart thing for your own safety and the people you are supposed to protect in the city.[/quote:29qixe0p]

who says he cant carry a gun??? There you go...making up stories again[/quote:29qixe0p]

If he does not qualify to carry a pistol in the council meetings, how is he or any other person qualified to be a police officer or chief. We just moved to the states from England so my husband and I are really confused about if the police chief or chief constable are authorized to carry a weapon.[/quote:29qixe0p]

Plain and simple...YES HE CAN

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

After what our police chief did the last couple of weeks with the hr manager a certain sgt( maybe all 3 depending what direction the wind is blowing) should prepare to get shivs in all of their backs. And a certain sgt and ho should get ready for a coranation ceremoney. Is it true that an x flpd executive has beeninterviewing for a captains position so our people are frozen out. When does the present sgt list expire in relation to wileys sudden exit. wow timing is everything in this place.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

:idea: Hey when does the Sgts list expire?

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.
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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

Chief Brassfield should have fired rick perez when he had the chance. The charge would have been cowardice and neglect of duty. He threw some good cops under the bus in order to save his own butt. He then used the mexican race card to get promoted. Has no business being a leader, As someone who had to work under the tyrant for many years, good people will leave than rather work for a stiff.LOL WM. We hear your guys and girls crying at court. WHAAAA. Get what you pay for.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

Chief Brassfield should have fired rick perez when he had the chance. The charge would have been cowardice and neglect of duty. He threw some good cops under the bus in order to save his own butt. He then used the mexican race card to get promoted. Has no business being a leader, As someone who had to work under the tyrant for many years, good people will leave than rather work for a stiff.LOL WM. We hear your guys and girls crying at court. WHAAAA. Get what you pay for.

There was a very large showing of the police dept at the ground breaking the other day. Even other police departments were present. They may not love the chief but they apparently respect him. Which is the way it should be....

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

Chief Brassfield should have fired rick perez when he had the chance. The charge would have been cowardice and neglect of duty. He threw some good cops under the bus in order to save his own butt. He then used the mexican race card to get promoted. Has no business being a leader, As someone who had to work under the tyrant for many years, good people will leave than rather work for a stiff.LOL WM. We hear your guys and girls crying at court. WHAAAA. Get what you pay for.

There was a very large showing of the police dept at the ground breaking the other day. Even other police departments were present. They may not love the chief but they apparently respect him. Which is the way it should be....

Respect him??? Or orderd to show up???

respect him
what a joke We all got a laugh out of that one.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

Chief Brassfield should have fired rick perez when he had the chance. The charge would have been cowardice and neglect of duty. He threw some good cops under the bus in order to save his own butt. He then used the mexican race card to get promoted. Has no business being a leader, As someone who had to work under the tyrant for many years, good people will leave than rather work for a stiff.LOL WM. We hear your guys and girls crying at court. WHAAAA. Get what you pay for.

There was a very large showing of the police dept at the ground breaking the other day. Even other police departments were present. They may not love the chief but they apparently respect him. Which is the way it should be....

Respect him??? Or orderd to show up???

Oh the mandate was to show up. People who did not better have medical excuses that they have a terminal illness or face the wicked rath of police chief rick perez. If you were not their, you are toast. I have a video, who were the other departments who showed up?

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

Chief Brassfield should have fired rick perez when he had the chance. The charge would have been cowardice and neglect of duty. He threw some good cops under the bus in order to save his own butt. He then used the mexican race card to get promoted. Has no business being a leader, As someone who had to work under the tyrant for many years, good people will leave than rather work for a stiff.LOL WM. We hear your guys and girls crying at court. WHAAAA. Get what you pay for.

There was a very large showing of the police dept at the ground breaking the other day. Even other police departments were present. They may not love the chief but they apparently respect him. Which is the way it should be....

Respect him??? Or orderd to show up???

Oh the mandate was to show up. People who did not better have medical excuses that they have a terminal illness or face the wicked rath of police chief rick perez. If you were not their, you are toast. I have a video, who were the other departments who showed up?[/quote:n3u6lvpr]

If you have a video or were there wouldnt you know...I believe the other officers were from Fort Lauderdale PD, including their Chief. Congrats to RP for mandating that his dept show up. Do you think the officers who brought their kids were made to do that do to?? Why must you find a neg. in everything?? I for one am really tired of it.

Since my car was vandalized and I had 2 bikes stolen within the last 3 months,I would rather have cops patrol my street that beeing ordered via E Mail that they had to appear at the Hagen Park groundbreaking or else. A threat is a threat no matter how it is put. No wonder they are all pissed off. They should be directed to patrol rather than to appear at a ceremony by the chief. I guess we know what the priorities are.

Since my car was vandalized and I had 2 bikes stolen within the last 3 months,I would rather have cops patrol my street that beeing ordered via E Mail that they had to appear at the Hagen Park groundbreaking or else. A threat is a threat no matter how it is put. No wonder they are all pissed off. They should be directed to patrol rather than to appear at a ceremony by the chief. I guess we know what the priorities are.

Most werent on duty....get real...and the ones that were didnt say there for hrs... and just because u said he threated , doesnt make it true.

Since my car was vandalized and I had 2 bikes stolen within the last 3 months,I would rather have cops patrol my street that beeing ordered via E Mail that they had to appear at the Hagen Park groundbreaking or else. A threat is a threat no matter how it is put. No wonder they are all pissed off. They should be directed to patrol rather than to appear at a ceremony by the chief. I guess we know what the priorities are.

Most werent on duty....get real...and the ones that were didnt say there for hrs... and just because u said he threated , doesnt make it true.

And just because people are tired of hearing about threats or you dont believe they are true doesnt mean he is not threatening the employees. It doesnt mean he's not intimidating or bullying employees. Again, this is the ony place to vent and if he finds out your posting you're done. Come join us. Misery loves company!

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

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THANK GOODNESS U ARE LEAVING...

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

Check out the latest Wilton Manors Pelican. Per our leader we had 20 cops on and off duty working NNO. Chief remember this phrase, LIAR, LIAR pants on firer. Pretty soon we will have to hose your fat arse with a fire extinguisher just so you can make it into your office, before you leave on your 3 hour lunch.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

Hmmmm..... Who is the next one to bail out of gayville within the next couple of weeks ??

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

Hmmmm..... Who is the next one to bail out of gayville within the next couple of weeks ??[/quote:zi2znwg6]

Seems 3 sworn and possibly a 4th applied to other agencies during the summer and backgrounds are about to be completed. With the new FY 08/09 October 1 budgets in place may not be long before a expanded vacancy list might be posted. Put will GG be pulled from the academy to fill vacancies before the Sgt's test ? No that would interupt his quality study time. What would be more important, the safety of the community or getting GG the 3rd stripe. Hmmmmm..................................

And I had to work with this piece of s### for a trial period. I sued and one. Perez and Costello hate women who talk back. There is another who should file and she needs to very soon. EEOC is the route.Girls do not take what Perez and Costello did to you. Seibert was clueless as usual but that is what she is limited to. She believes in silences is golden. Same as she believed in at 1300 W Broward.

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Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

Chief Brassfield should have fired rick perez when he had the chance. The charge would have been cowardice and neglect of duty. He threw some good cops under the bus in order to save his own butt. He then used the mexican race card to get promoted. Has no business being a leader, As someone who had to work under the tyrant for many years, good people will leave than rather work for a stiff.LOL WM. We hear your guys and girls crying at court. WHAAAA. Get what you pay for.

There was a very large showing of the police dept at the ground breaking the other day. Even other police departments were present. They may not love the chief but they apparently respect him. Which is the way it should be....

Respect him??? Or orderd to show up???

Oh the mandate was to show up. People who did not better have medical excuses that they have a terminal illness or face the wicked rath of police chief rick perez. If you were not their, you are toast. I have a video, who were the other departments who showed up?

If you have a video or were there wouldnt you know...I believe the other officers were from Fort Lauderdale PD, including their Chief. Congrats to RP for mandating that his dept show up. Do you think the officers who brought their kids were made to do that do to?? Why must you find a neg. in everything?? I for one am really tired of it.[/quote:2ln9a0i4]

I am leaving very soon. This city and its HR plan are so messed up that right now you do dot even want to be an employee. Nobody can answer a very simple question about salary and benefits. And as a employee who has worked in several cities, this city is very Fup .

exactly why it's time for a change. Wed can't have the same BS again and again. Same arrogant BS, the I can do whatever I want, I'm the boss attitude. It's the only way to rebuild what has been seriously damaged by starting with new leadership. Yes John brings TRUE experience and firm ideas for restructuring. Are we that well off to be paying some of the current salaries in all city departments not just police? Well perhaps after the results are in, we can start by thinking about the city managers position. Oh yea by the way, he supports Newton.

oh and PS: no secret around here but Perez supports newton as well.

oh and PS: no secret around here but Perez supports newton as well.
Everybody in the PD knows that Perez sucks on Newtons Roids along with Costello. After Tuesday it will be a very different story for the city manager, department heads and police administration when Julie wins, very different.

Rick Perez was a cancer every day he worked for the city of Ft Lauderdale. He Hated women , really afro american women, but carried one on his side ( a large one)so it would be a good legal defense when he got sued. I have been retired since 2/03 but cannot imagine he has changed since he was a piece of S### then and is a piece of S### now. Rick never cared about the troops but it was all about his macho ego.

Why would WM paint the rainbow symbol on their vehicles? Why is there a need for an agency to take a position on human sexuality? Why not chrome girlie mudflaps? Why imply support for ANY sexual attitude. Why not a swastika, a cross, a star of david, or a witch? Celebrating a social movement based on rubbing body parts against like minded citizens is buffoonery.
Maybe its time to revisit this.

Since the Sun Sentinel has not allowed comments after the article, we can post comments here.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/ ... 5184.story (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-flbmanorscops1014nboct14,0,7615184.story)

Remarks on Web site target Wilton Manors police chief, gay residents
By Elizabeth Baier | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 14, 2007

It started with a vague question about Wilton Manors Police Chief Richard Perez that implied he played favorites.

Though it did not mention him by name, the May 9 posting on the city's forum on leoaffairs.com, a Web site for law enforcement agencies that encourages frank discussion, quickly changed the way officers in the small Broward community vent and communicate.

Writers have called the Wilton Manors Police Department a "HORRIBLE place to work" and described the agency as "filled with backstabbing, 'yes' men & women, fear, intimidation and retaliation."

The initial author of the "Where to start ..." message board, identified only by the name "Lovin the Manors," started what is now one of the longest thread of comments posted to the 48 topics on the city's forum.

As of Saturday, the thread had been viewed 5,098 times and readers had added 101 comments.

Since those initial postings, some residents and city officials say the city's forum, which is not password-protected, has turned into an outlet for personal attacks and offensive remarks, most of which are anonymous.

Writers about the police department have repeatedly referred to what they say is unfair treatment and an iron-fisted style of management by Perez, who took over in January 2006. The comments, many of which contain creative spelling and punctuation, also have targeted commissioners and the gay community, estimated to be 35 to 40 percent of the city's population.

Someone identified as "Guest" posted a message on a July thread titled "WHY ARE THEY MAD AT ME!!!!!!!!!" asking, "So is WMPD going to start painting the patrol cars the colors of the rainbow [a common gay symbol]? If so, it would match the demographics of the city and the ever changing dept."

Perez has known about the site for about six months but says he doesn't read it. Other officers, though, tell him about the posts, he says, and he finds such comments offensive and unrepresentative of the sentiments of city residents or officers in his 42-member department. Morale, he says, is "very good."

"People hide behind anonymity and don't want to use their real name. It's frustrating," Perez said. "It's kind of hard to defend yourself or rebut what people are saying if you don't even know who they are."

The department was criticized in 2005 after the city hired California-based Dhillon Management Services for $30,000 to assess the agency. The report said management was overstaffed and that the city could save $1 million by cutting back on overtime and eliminating several high-ranking positions.

Controversy continued with the departure of then-Chief Richard Wierzbicki, a 24-year veteran of the agency, who was placed on administrative leave before retiring, and protracted contract negotiations between the city and the police union.

The forums on leoaffairs.com are meant to allow officers to talk freely about their department, share tips and promote public participation in police affairs, said Chip DeBlock, a Tampa police detective who co-founded the site in 2002. The site hosts more than 400 community forums for police departments in nine countries and receives about 8 million hits a month.

On the Wilton Manors' forum, Perez is the biggest target.

"Wasn't the new chief suppose to build the department into a great place to work? What on earth does he think he is doing?," one writer wrote. "This isn't the Mafia."

Perez said he is disappointed that some of his officers might be posting, but said they are entitled to do so off duty on their own computers.

Fred Neely, president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said the message boards have empowered officers in the small city to speak their minds without fear of retaliation.

The officers are "frightened that if they speak out or show resistance to the current administration, they'll face repercussions," Neely said. "With Perez, it's kind of his way or no way."

Mayor Scott Newton said he does not understand why officers are still disgruntled, since the city recently signed a contract that provides a six-year, 3-percent annual cost-of-living adjustment for Police Benevolent members. It also allows officers with at least 15 years of service to retire early without penalty.

"It's baffling sometimes to understand why some of them are writing these things," Newton said. "They got pretty much everything that they were asking for."

Some posters on the site have responded to the criticisms.

One, identified as "SomeoneWhoPaysYourSalary!" in an Aug. 15 post, said: "Did you ever stop to think for one moment that all this carrying on is being witnessed by the very people you're sworn to protect and serve?"

Neely, of the Wilton Manors FOP, agrees that "some of it is really over the top."

"I certainly cannot agree with everything that's on that Web site," Neely said. But "many of the officers have turned on each other. The cohesiveness is gone."

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at ebaier@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4337.

Hey Tennessee people read this. It tells it all brothers and sisters.

Gallegos wil be gone after 10/1 and perez will cannon foder after THAT.