GOV CRIST IMPEACH JENNE PLEASE

GOV LETS DO IT SIR

GOV LETS DO IT SIR

SEE YA K JENNE DUMOCRAT

Jenne if we take the marble off the fifth floor of the psb and get rid of all of your colonels and jenne ass kissers we can give each vehicle one ar-15. You need to move on kj.

Jenne must go. His tears are touching, but an interesting thing has come to light. How come so many BSO Deputies have been shot on his watch? Miami-Dade has not had a cop shot since 1993 and Ft. Lauderdale has only one shooting where their officer was shot since 1996. Could it be Jenne has taken the edge off his deputies? By this I mean he has caused so many distractions during his time in office. First Powertrac, second the investigation of his deputies, detectives and supervisors for case clearances and underreporting of crimes. Now we have his federal investigation where he is about to be indicted for fraud, conspiracy, and tax evasion. Could these factors be causing deputies to be less diligent while doing their jobs? Instead of thinking of possible situations where they would need to put their training to practice they are thinking about what is going on with their leader. Could it be the fact that they do not feel that the sheriff actually supports them. In the old days (1980's) when a piece of trash criminal would come to file a frivolous complaint on a deputy IA would not even entertain their BS. Now an anonymous complainant can go to IA, remain anonymous and tell his lies. BSO becomes the complainant and an investigation is started. In order to abide by the Law Enforcement Officers Bill of Rights there must be a complainant. Now in some cases the investigation proves the deputy did nothing wrong, but during the investigation the deputy must worry that if something does not go right he could loose his livelihood and pension. That is a lot of stress to place on a person. Moreover, why is a deputy immediately placed on Administrative Restrictive Duty when the case may be criminal in nature, but the sheriff can be under a felony investigation and still be allowed to be in place? If that were you or I we would be suspended or sitting at the fishbowl in district 5 waiting for an outcome. The sheriff does not have to abide by his own rules!!! I believe he should step down and have Gov. Crist appoint a law enforcement professional to lead us until the sheriff is indicted or cleared of wrong doing. That would show he is not above us but one of us.

Just a thought!

How are aggressive officers handled with BSO?

How do supervisors feel about approaching vehicles with your gun in hand?

Rifle/superior weapon deployment? supervisor approval?

Use of force/control reports? investigated on scene by shift supervisor or by IA?

Do you have to call the supervisor for all arrests? do you need to clear arrests with supervisors?

Can another DS sign your PC? or does the supervisor?

How are aggressive officers handled with BSO?

How do supervisors feel about approaching vehicles with your gun in hand?

Rifle/superior weapon deployment? supervisor approval?

Use of force/control reports? investigated on scene by shift supervisor or by IA?

Do you have to call the supervisor for all arrests? do you need to clear arrests with supervisors?

Can another DS sign your PC? or does the supervisor?


Who are you, a media TROLL?

How are aggressive officers handled with BSO?

How do supervisors feel about approaching vehicles with your gun in hand?

Rifle/superior weapon deployment? supervisor approval?

Use of force/control reports? investigated on scene by shift supervisor or by IA?

Do you have to call the supervisor for all arrests? do you need to clear arrests with supervisors?

Can another DS sign your PC? or does the supervisor?

By the way, no offense but we are not "officers" we are "Deputy Sheriffs" and we do our jobs as defined by statute and policy. And at BSO our Deputy Sheriff's do an excellent job.

Jenne must go. His tears are touching, but an interesting thing has come to light. How come so many BSO Deputies have been shot on his watch? Miami-Dade has not had a cop shot since 1993 and Ft. Lauderdale has only one shooting where their officer was shot since 1996. Could it be Jenne has taken the edge off his deputies? By this I mean he has caused so many distractions during his time in office. First Powertrac, second the investigation of his deputies, detectives and supervisors for case clearances and underreporting of crimes. Now we have his federal investigation where he is about to be indicted for fraud, conspiracy, and tax evasion. Could these factors be causing deputies to be less diligent while doing their jobs? Instead of thinking of possible situations where they would need to put their training to practice they are thinking about what is going on with their leader. Could it be the fact that they do not feel that the sheriff actually supports them. In the old days (1980's) when a piece of trash criminal would come to file a frivolous complaint on a deputy IA would not even entertain their BS. Now an anonymous complainant can go to IA, remain anonymous and tell his lies. BSO becomes the complainant and an investigation is started. In order to abide by the Law Enforcement Officers Bill of Rights there must be a complainant. Now in some cases the investigation proves the deputy did nothing wrong, but during the investigation the deputy must worry that if something does not go right he could loose his livelihood and pension. That is a lot of stress to place on a person. Moreover, why is a deputy immediately placed on Administrative Restrictive Duty when the case may be criminal in nature, but the sheriff can be under a felony investigation and still be allowed to be in place? If that were you or I we would be suspended or sitting at the fishbowl in district 5 waiting for an outcome. The sheriff does not have to abide by his own rules!!! I believe he should step down and have Gov. Crist appoint a law enforcement professional to lead us until the sheriff is indicted or cleared of wrong doing. That would show he is not above us but one of us.

Just a thought!

AMEN AMEN AMEN

[quote="Jenne Must Go":npzko5ov]Jenne must go. His tears are touching, but an interesting thing has come to light. How come so many BSO Deputies have been shot on his watch? Miami-Dade has not had a cop shot since 1993 and Ft. Lauderdale has only one shooting where their officer was shot since 1996. Could it be Jenne has taken the edge off his deputies? By this I mean he has caused so many distractions during his time in office. First Powertrac, second the investigation of his deputies, detectives and supervisors for case clearances and underreporting of crimes. Now we have his federal investigation where he is about to be indicted for fraud, conspiracy, and tax evasion. Could these factors be causing deputies to be less diligent while doing their jobs? Instead of thinking of possible situations where they would need to put their training to practice they are thinking about what is going on with their leader. Could it be the fact that they do not feel that the sheriff actually supports them. In the old days (1980's) when a piece of trash criminal would come to file a frivolous complaint on a deputy IA would not even entertain their BS. Now an anonymous complainant can go to IA, remain anonymous and tell his lies. BSO becomes the complainant and an investigation is started. In order to abide by the Law Enforcement Officers Bill of Rights there must be a complainant. Now in some cases the investigation proves the deputy did nothing wrong, but during the investigation the deputy must worry that if something does not go right he could loose his livelihood and pension. That is a lot of stress to place on a person. Moreover, why is a deputy immediately placed on Administrative Restrictive Duty when the case may be criminal in nature, but the sheriff can be under a felony investigation and still be allowed to be in place? If that were you or I we would be suspended or sitting at the fishbowl in district 5 waiting for an outcome. The sheriff does not have to abide by his own rules!!! I believe he should step down and have Gov. Crist appoint a law enforcement professional to lead us until the sheriff is indicted or cleared of wrong doing. That would show he is not above us but one of us.

Just a thought!

AMEN AMEN AMEN[/quote:npzko5ov]

Thank you brother. I too am a long time deputy who has been there done that and continues to do it. I love getting the bad guys I do not fear IA but I know many who do. I have had my share of IA cases but have come through with only a minor punishment for my own screw up. We have to force Jenne to step down until his problems are over. They have done it for less in other Sheriffs' Offices in this state. Is everyone so afraid of Jenne? I believe he is innocent until guilty, but until that is determined put him out and appoint someone. We need to get back to the days of old when BSO was on the cutting edge of street police work. We were highlighted on COPS, and Geraldo due to our no holes barred take back the street attitude. We need to get our reputation back from the street thugs who think it is ok to shoot one of us. Our supervisors need to back us and the citizens appreciate us if we do this I believe Broward County wants us to do this we deputies should start the move.

Everyone do your jobs and do not treat someone unfairly, be careful and back each other up. Fnalyy, take back the streeets.

[quote="old as dirt Leo":1d76b0ts][quote="Jenne Must Go":1d76b0ts]Jenne must go. His tears are touching, but an interesting thing has come to light. How come so many BSO Deputies have been shot on his watch? Miami-Dade has not had a cop shot since 1993 and Ft. Lauderdale has only one shooting where their officer was shot since 1996. Could it be Jenne has taken the edge off his deputies? By this I mean he has caused so many distractions during his time in office. First Powertrac, second the investigation of his deputies, detectives and supervisors for case clearances and underreporting of crimes. Now we have his federal investigation where he is about to be indicted for fraud, conspiracy, and tax evasion. Could these factors be causing deputies to be less diligent while doing their jobs? Instead of thinking of possible situations where they would need to put their training to practice they are thinking about what is going on with their leader. Could it be the fact that they do not feel that the sheriff actually supports them. In the old days (1980's) when a piece of trash criminal would come to file a frivolous complaint on a deputy IA would not even entertain their BS. Now an anonymous complainant can go to IA, remain anonymous and tell his lies. BSO becomes the complainant and an investigation is started. In order to abide by the Law Enforcement Officers Bill of Rights there must be a complainant. Now in some cases the investigation proves the deputy did nothing wrong, but during the investigation the deputy must worry that if something does not go right he could loose his livelihood and pension. That is a lot of stress to place on a person. Moreover, why is a deputy immediately placed on Administrative Restrictive Duty when the case may be criminal in nature, but the sheriff can be under a felony investigation and still be allowed to be in place? If that were you or I we would be suspended or sitting at the fishbowl in district 5 waiting for an outcome. The sheriff does not have to abide by his own rules!!! I believe he should step down and have Gov. Crist appoint a law enforcement professional to lead us until the sheriff is indicted or cleared of wrong doing. That would show he is not above us but one of us.

Just a thought!

AMEN AMEN AMEN[/quote:1d76b0ts]

Thank you brother. I too am a long time deputy who has been there done that and continues to do it. I love getting the bad guys I do not fear IA but I know many who do. I have had my share of IA cases but have come through with only a minor punishment for my own screw up. We have to force Jenne to step down until his problems are over. They have done it for less in other Sheriffs' Offices in this state. Is everyone so afraid of Jenne? I believe he is innocent until guilty, but until that is determined put him out and appoint someone. We need to get back to the days of old when BSO was on the cutting edge of street police work. We were highlighted on COPS, and Geraldo due to our no holes barred take back the street attitude. We need to get our reputation back from the street thugs who think it is ok to shoot one of us. Our supervisors need to back us and the citizens appreciate us if we do this I believe Broward County wants us to do this we deputies should start the move.

Everyone do your jobs and do not treat someone unfairly, be careful and back each other up. Fnalyy, take back the streeets.[/quote:1d76b0ts]

I am a long time Police Officer/Deputy. I agree that the Sheriff needs to leave. I do not know if Chris was distracted before the Scum took his life but it is intresting to see that so many Deputies have lost their lives on Jenne's watch. I would like to see if any Florida agency has lost as many as us since he took over. If we are #1 in that catagory then there may be a corrolation.

Jenne you did not award him the employee of the month for April. I believe it was his Captain or Lieutanant, you just were the presenter of the award. I bet you did not even know Chris personally your entroage probably did the research for you so it would sound like you knew him. You are such a LIAR!

This is why I will retire soon. There is no respect for us not even from our Sheriff. He is no leader he is a looser!

Read an article in the scum sentinel about the shooting. All the BSO info came from someone named Cohen. Not one mention of Ken Jenne. No "According to Sheriff Jenne" blah blah blah... What's up wid dat? Got the message did you? No one wants to hear from you.

Read an article in the scum sentinel about the shooting. All the BSO info came from someone named Cohen. Not one mention of Ken Jenne. No "According to Sheriff Jenne" blah blah blah... What's up wid dat? Got the message did you? No one wants to hear from you.

Wrong Jenne has been the center of every news conference. He is looking for sympathy from the people of Broward.

Millie is Century Village said, "How could they do this to Sheriff Jenne he is such a great leader didn't you see how he handled the BSO Deputy shootings?"

This is what votes and believes he is a good guy. Cohen has been the spokesman, but Jenne has not missed one chance to get his face on the camera with his crocadile tears.

I speak for many deputies they hate Jenne just ask. Lets have a vote of no cofidence by the PBA. Oh yeah they are useless too.

RIP Sgt. R

Govenor Crist I implore you to save this Department. Jenne is ruining us.

How are aggressive officers handled with BSO?

How do supervisors feel about approaching vehicles with your gun in hand?

Rifle/superior weapon deployment? supervisor approval?

Use of force/control reports? investigated on scene by shift supervisor or by IA?

Do you have to call the supervisor for all arrests? do you need to clear arrests with supervisors?

Can another DS sign your PC? or does the supervisor?


Who are you, a media TROLL?

No, im an officer with another department. All of which i listed above are non-issues at my department and im wondering if your upper echelon has been so pussifed that its now putting your lives in danger.

Jenne has been a absolute disgrace to your agency.

How will someone that has never "been there done that" truly understand what we go through staring into the eyes of someone that doesnt want to go to jail...

He wont.



By the way, no offense but we are not "officers" we are "Deputy Sheriffs" and we do our jobs as defined by statute and policy. And at BSO our Deputy Sheriff's do an excellent job.
I take no offense, since i am also a "deputy". I take no offense to the term "officer" since the statutes also define me as a LEO (law enforcement officer).

How are aggressive officers handled? They're ridiculed on this site from what I can see. :lol:

Supervisors don't care if you approach with your gun drawn. In fact - they recommend it. At least some.

Don't need approval to pull the AR15

Use of force investigated by supervisor

May have to notify supervisors of arrest but don't generally need their approval.

And with that - what difference does this make?

I agree with everyone that Jenne must go asap, however you cant blame him for the shootings of our fellow deputies while on duty. You all know that can happen to anyone at anytime in any department.

I agree with everyone that Jenne must go asap, however you cant blame him for the shootings of our fellow deputies while on duty. You all know that can happen to anyone at anytime in any department.

GOV. CHRIST IMPEACH KEN JENNE. HIM AND HIS CRONIES HAVE BEEN SUCKING THE AGENCY DRY FOR YEARS. ANY MORE CHIEFS AND MAJORS WE WILL TOPPLE OVER. HERE IS A NEWS FLASH QUIT AND KEN WILL BRING YOU BACK AS A CONSULTANT WITH PERKS SALARIES OVER 100,000 AND HEALTH CARE FREE [/b]

APPOINT CREAMER GOV CRIST

GOV LETS DO IT SIR



gov crist creamer or soule for sheriff please impeach ken jenne.

GOV LETS DO IT SIR



gov crist creamer or soule for sheriff please impeach ken jenne.

great choices

We need Creamer in our bso.

Broward sheriff's legal expenses questioned

Posted on Tue, Aug. 28, 2007l

BY WANDA J. DeMARZO AND JAY WEAVER
wdemarzo@MiamiHerald.com
The Broward Sheriff's Office has paid more than $272,000 in legal fees to a former U.S. attorney in Miami who has represented the agency during a federal criminal investigation into Sheriff Ken Jenne's personal finances, according to public records.

Since March 2006, the agency also paid out more than $105,000 to four other lawyers who represented 11 BSO deputies and others questioned during the grand jury probe, records show.

BSO hired former federal prosecutor Guy Lewis and his firm -- which charged up to $650 an hour -- to coordinate subpoenas for BSO documents and employees.

The county agency has no criminal liability in the case, and Lewis said he was not hired to defend Jenne, who pays his own private criminal attorney.

But Lewis' legal bills show his firm charged BSO for numerous consultations with Jenne -- including preparation for a Feb. 21 ''settlement conference'' with federal prosecutors, ''multiple'' telephone calls and meetings with Jenne, and conferences with witnesses before and after they testified before the grand jury in Fort Lauderdale.

Jenne and another BSO official signed the checks paid to Lewis' firm as well as the other retained attorneys.

The bills raise questions about whether Lewis may have provided legal counsel to Jenne at taxpayer expense when his only responsibility was to BSO, according to legal and other observers.

Lewis, however, said he merely handled records and subpoenas involving BSO and its employees. There was no conflict, he said, because Jenne ordered BSO to fully cooperate with investigators.

''There was a natural overlap, not a calculated one, not a problematic one,'' Lewis said. ``My instructions from Jenne were to cooperate fully. With that mandate, I didn't see any potential for conflict.''

David Bogenschutz, Jenne's private attorney, said as head of the agency, the sheriff knew how and where all the documents could be found in the vast BSO bureaucracy.

And no one is more familiar with the inner workings of the agency, he added.

''It's difficult to know where Ken Jenne stops and BSO begins,'' Bogenschutz said. ``BSO is Ken Jenne.''

Jenne, 60, who has served as Broward's top cop since 1998, faces possible fraud charges for allegedly using his office for personal gain by accepting more than $100,000 in unreported payments from BSO contractors and others.

Details of the legal bills were disclosed by BSO over the past week as part of a public records request from media outlets, including The Miami Herald. The records point to the extent of the federal investigation, which began in April 2005 with a Florida Department of Law Enforcement probe. It could end soon with a plea deal or indictment, according to sources familiar with the case.

BSO's general counsel, Ed Dion, also worked on subpoena requests with Lewis' firm.

Dion told The Miami Herald that BSO has no contract or letter of engagement with Lewis' firm, though Lewis has worked for BSO before on an unrelated crime-statistics audit.

Lewis' responsibility was to coordinate what he calls a ''highly complex case'' -- including 20 grand jury subpoenas for about 20,000 documents and 12 more subpoenas for agency witnesses.

In February alone, Lewis and his firm billed the sheriff's office $34,656 in attorney's fees. Among the charges: preparation for the Feb. 21 ''settlement conference'' to try to resolve the criminal investigation at the U.S. Attorney's Office in Miami, where Lewis, his partner Michael Tein and Bogenschutz met with South Florida's top federal prosecutor, R. Alexander Acosta.

A week before that meeting, Lewis' monthly invoice indicated he had ''multiple telephone conferences with Sheriff Jenne'' and made ``multiple attempts to reach Mr. Bogenschutz's office.''

Lewis admitted sometimes there was overlapping in his responsibilities for BSO and the sheriff -- especially when federal prosecutors Pat Sullivan and Matt Axelrod sought Jenne's personal financial records.

But when it came to his personal records, Jenne drew the line, Lewis said. Bogenschutz ended up handling prosecutors' demands for those documents, including bank statements, as well as records from his business and consulting activities, Lewis said.

A law professor who specializes in ethics said the larger question -- whether BSO or Jenne is the client -- appears to muddle Lewis' role as legal advisor to the public agency.

''The conflict of interest question is a fair one, in light of the fact that the interests of BSO may very likely diverge in an adverse way from the interests of Ken Jenne,'' said University of Miami law professor Tony Alfieri, who heads the UM Center for Ethics & Public Service.

He criticized the lack of a formal agreement between BSO and Lewis' firm that would spell out the scope of its legal responsibilities to avoid conflicts. But he noted that was not uncommon among government agencies.

Kenneth Harms, a former city of Miami police chief, said Lewis' bills suggest that Jenne acquired Lewis, a prominent lawyer with political influence, to help with his defense.

''I cannot fathom the frequency that Lewis and his office were consulting and conferring with Jenne,'' said Harms, who reviewed the bills at The Miami Herald's request. ``He is getting free legal service at the county's expense to try to improve his position in terms of the final outcome of the investigation.''

Lewis denied representing Jenne in his legal work for BSO, asserting the agency was his client. He acknowledged that he met and spoke with the sheriff more than any other agency employee but said Jenne's sole purpose was to facilitate the turnover of BSO records and testimony of witnesses.

'There's no doubt there's an overlap of responsibility, but not to the point where I told the sheriff, `Take this plea, don't take this plea.' That wasn't my role,'' Lewis said.

When asked about his role in the February settlement conference, Lewis said: ``I was struggling and looking for ways to resolve this thing sooner rather than later. Ever since then, it's been pure David [Bogenschutz] in the negotiations with the U.S. Attorney's Office.''