IUPA Contract

What would you like to see in a contract from IUPA. If you had a chance to start from scratch and write an entire new contract, what would you like to see in it?

In no particular order:

- Take home car policy detailed as equipment issue and thus not the whim of the sheriff.

- Double time during state of emergency (72 hours after crucial incident e.g. hurricane)

- Employees shall be given ten days notice of any change in their regular hours of work, work week, work period, etc unless an emergency necessitates.

- Movement towards the modern LE schedule (10's or 12's)

More to come.

Overtime for details. not detail rate.

Fair promotional test

Fair transfer in and out of specialized units

Take home policy in contract.

No more bouncing off of shifts as punishment

Another step. If not for pay then add more vacation time if there is no money.

Better training

As it stands right now just about all of the articles in the current contract are prefaced by “at the sheriffs discretion” or words to that effect. We first need to change that language.

There must be a mechanism in place to give deputies an opportunity to change districts. Like once every 5 years based on seniority and/or to coincide with academy graduation. Days off and shift picks base solely on seniority. If there is a problem employee the Sgt. Should take care of them on an individual basis, not make all pay for a few.

Promotions need to be based on the test, time on, sick time use, awards, and classes taken. Each thing should be assessed with a point system like the military does. Five year minimum and must have been a detective or FTD. So there can be no good old boy promotions.

We should have a corporal, and detective ranks. Minimum three years experience on the road with BSO. Corporals must be an FTD with a minimum of having trained at least six deputies. Detective becomes a permanent rank once you complete 1 year with qualifying evaluations. This would also cover job protection. (Can’t be removed without cause).

Cars will be issued based on mileage. (Some leeway can be given for real meritorious behavior)

Redundant and unnecessary paper work needs to be eliminated, ( ie: dailies, lost property reports) Our computer system needs to catch up with 2007.

Politics does not equal professionalism.

This is just a few ideas, lets all vote IUPA

Iwould like to see deputies having the option through bids to transfer to nort,south and central areas of the county to be closer to home. The sheriff complains we have no money for gas but how many people live in th enorth end and work south and live in the south end but work north. I know there is a policy already but lets use it and make it a contract issue.

No more free extraditions for the sheriffs office. Where is this a benefit for a deputy who does an exradition now? What happens if you are in another state and something happens? The contract says you are off duty. Well who pays if you are hurt, who suffers if something happens, can you face discipline or charges if something happens while you are "off duty" doing an extradition?

I would like to see the elimination of deputies being bounced off of their shift and go by senority

I would like to see the elimination of deputies being bounced off of their shift and go by senority

If we all worked 4-12 hours shift the senority issue will be a dead one.

VOTE FOR IT 4-12 hours shifts

On behalf of Colonel John Auer, please note the attached:
The attached notice and petition are to be displayed in each command where PBA Deputies and Sergeants are assigned, to include all district offices, PSB divisions, CPIS, Internal Affairs and other BSO locations.
IUPA has filed a Certification Petition with PERC, and on August 2nd BSO was given a Notice of Sufficiency requiring us to immediately post the attachments in a conspicuous place where employees will be reasonably apprised of the notice. The notice shall remain posted during the pendency of the petition. As the manager, you are the representative of the employer and you have a responsibility to take reasonable steps to ensure that the notices are not altered, defaced, or covered by other materials.
Please contact Gayle Munro via e-mail acknowledging your receipt and action taken pertaining to this directive.
Thank you for your attention in this matter.

Notice of a Vote is posted in the districts!!!!!!

I think the main focus should be our pay. BSO has become one of the lowest paid agencies in Broward County. There's no reason for a starting pay to be $42,000 when most are starting in the 50's. Every time I hear of someone getting a new contract, there's always mention of a pay raise, where's BSO's.

Shifts should also be a priority. 4-10's has worked everywhere else. For those of us with weekends off, what better than a three day weekend. This will also keep the rookies happy, even if they have Tues, Wed, and Thurs, it's three days off. Not to mention the increased manpower and safety.

I think the main focus should be our pay. BSO has become one of the lowest paid agencies in Broward County. There's no reason for a starting pay to be $42,000 when most are starting in the 50's. Every time I hear of someone getting a new contract, there's always mention of a pay raise, where's BSO's.

Shifts should also be a priority. 4-10's has worked everywhere else. For those of us with weekends off, what better than a three day weekend. This will also keep the rookies happy, even if they have Tues, Wed, and Thurs, it's three days off. Not to mention the increased manpower and safety.

I would like to see the elimination of deputies being bounced off of their shift and go by senority

If we all worked 4-12 hours shift the senority issue will be a dead one.

VOTE FOR IT 4-12 hours shiftsNo 4 twelves rookie, not gonna happen. 4 10's would be a go. Don't tell me 4 10's would cost more, It will still save a lot more than 5 8's, not to mention what would be saved on sick time

What would you like to see in a contract from IUPA. If you had a chance to start from scratch and write an entire new contract, what would you like to see in it?How about something being done with the "Administrations right to make a decision on a whim for the BETTERMENT OF THE AGENCY", when they cannot come up with any other reason for taking action against an employee, or the "Failed to meet BSO standards" clause. We need to abolish these loop holes and demand explainations of all decisions made by the administration so THEY can be held accountable. :)

No more free extraditions for the sheriffs office. Where is this a benefit for a deputy who does an exradition now? What happens if you are in another state and something happens? The contract says you are off duty. Well who pays if you are hurt, who suffers if something happens, can you face discipline or charges if something happens while you are "off duty" doing an extradition?

Extraditions were ALWAYS on your own time. And the contract always alleges you are off duty. So, Whats your beef, rookie>>> Did you decide now to just figure all this out? You dont like the terms then dont do it. No one owes you a BENEFIT like an extradition. Go back to your sandbox. Its people like you that give us all a name as whiners. Whine for something of substance...like better medical, better hours, better pay. You can always pick the rookies out of the crowd. They cry only for the *Me* things

No more free extraditions for the sheriffs office. Where is this a benefit for a deputy who does an exradition now? What happens if you are in another state and something happens? The contract says you are off duty. Well who pays if you are hurt, who suffers if something happens, can you face discipline or charges if something happens while you are "off duty" doing an extradition?

Extraditions were ALWAYS on your own time. And the contract always alleges you are off duty. So, Whats your beef, rookie>>> Did you decide now to just figure all this out? You dont like the terms then dont do it. No one owes you a BENEFIT like an extradition. Go back to your sandbox. Its people like you that give us all a name as whiners. Whine for something of substance...like better medical, better hours, better pay. You can always pick the rookies out of the crowd. They cry only for the *Me* thingsAMEN BROTHER!!!

[quote=Anonymous]No more free extraditions for the sheriffs office. Where is this a benefit for a deputy who does an exradition now? What happens if you are in another state and something happens? The contract says you are off duty. Well who pays if you are hurt, who suffers if something happens, can you face discipline or charges if something happens while you are "off duty" doing an extradition?

Extraditions were ALWAYS on your own time. And the contract always alleges you are off duty. So, Whats your beef, rookie>>> Did you decide now to just figure all this out? You dont like the terms then dont do it. No one owes you a BENEFIT like an extradition. Go back to your sandbox. Its people like you that give us all a name as whiners. Whine for something of substance...like better medical, better hours, better pay. You can always pick the rookies out of the crowd. They cry only for the *Me* thingsAMEN BROTHER!!![/quote:z673eklm]

Not a rookie at all. Over 10 years with BSO. As you look at our current pathetic contract, it is very top heavy towards the management side. If they want to keep that benefit, then we need to use that as a negotiation tool for us. This is called contract negotiations. But in all seriousness, If you believe so strongly in keeping extraditions free then can you answer some questions? What would happen to a deputy who is in Nebraska doing an extradition and he gets hurt trying to stop a prisoner from escaping. Would he be covered under workers comp because he now needs a surgery for a knee injury? Could he possibly face discipline under P&P if he is off duty. These things may sound minor to you but these are the things that need to be spelled out in the contract. Doesen't mamagement always tell us if it's not in writing, it didn't happen. Please give me a decent answer without b.s and we can discuss this. There are other areas in the contract like this too.

[quote=Anonymous]No more free extraditions for the sheriffs office. Where is this a benefit for a deputy who does an exradition now? What happens if you are in another state and something happens? The contract says you are off duty. Well who pays if you are hurt, who suffers if something happens, can you face discipline or charges if something happens while you are "off duty" doing an extradition?

Extraditions were ALWAYS on your own time. And the contract always alleges you are off duty. So, Whats your beef, rookie>>> Did you decide now to just figure all this out? You dont like the terms then dont do it. No one owes you a BENEFIT like an extradition. Go back to your sandbox. Its people like you that give us all a name as whiners. Whine for something of substance...like better medical, better hours, better pay. You can always pick the rookies out of the crowd. They cry only for the *Me* thingsAMEN BROTHER!!!

Not a rookie at all. Over 10 years with BSO. As you look at our current pathetic contract, it is very top heavy towards the management side. If they want to keep that benefit, then we need to use that as a negotiation tool for us. This is called contract negotiations. But in all seriousness, If you believe so strongly in keeping extraditions free then can you answer some questions? What would happen to a deputy who is in Nebraska doing an extradition and he gets hurt trying to stop a prisoner from escaping. Would he be covered under workers comp because he now needs a surgery for a knee injury? Could he possibly face discipline under P&P if he is off duty. These things may sound minor to you but these are the things that need to be spelled out in the contract. Doesen't mamagement always tell us if it's not in writing, it didn't happen. Please give me a decent answer without b.s and we can discuss this. There are other areas in the contract like this too.[/quote:37z4hfyx]

As long as guys perform these extraditions for free and without protection, the administration will continue to take advantage of it. Maybe the stupid idiots would stop doing them we can finally sit down down and talk about it with our administration. But until that happens, we will continue to be punching bags.

[quote=Anonymous]No more free extraditions for the sheriffs office. Where is this a benefit for a deputy who does an exradition now? What happens if you are in another state and something happens? The contract says you are off duty. Well who pays if you are hurt, who suffers if something happens, can you face discipline or charges if something happens while you are "off duty" doing an extradition?

Extraditions were ALWAYS on your own time. And the contract always alleges you are off duty. So, Whats your beef, rookie>>> Did you decide now to just figure all this out? You dont like the terms then dont do it. No one owes you a BENEFIT like an extradition. Go back to your sandbox. Its people like you that give us all a name as whiners. Whine for something of substance...like better medical, better hours, better pay. You can always pick the rookies out of the crowd. They cry only for the *Me* thingsAMEN BROTHER!!!

Not a rookie at all. Over 10 years with BSO. As you look at our current pathetic contract, it is very top heavy towards the management side. If they want to keep that benefit, then we need to use that as a negotiation tool for us. This is called contract negotiations. But in all seriousness, If you believe so strongly in keeping extraditions free then can you answer some questions? What would happen to a deputy who is in Nebraska doing an extradition and he gets hurt trying to stop a prisoner from escaping. Would he be covered under workers comp because he now needs a surgery for a knee injury? Could he possibly face discipline under P&P if he is off duty. These things may sound minor to you but these are the things that need to be spelled out in the contract. Doesen't mamagement always tell us if it's not in writing, it didn't happen. Please give me a decent answer without b.s and we can discuss this. There are other areas in the contract like this too.[/quote:27vyadsd]He may be off duty, but he is acting in his position as a Law Enforcement Officer, and will be covered under workers comp.

I would like to see the elimination of deputies being bounced off of their shift and go by senority

If we all worked 4-12 hours shift the senority issue will be a dead one.

VOTE FOR IT 4-12 hours shiftsNo 4 twelves rookie, not gonna happen. 4 10's would be a go. Don't tell me 4 10's would cost more, It will still save a lot more than 5 8's, not to mention what would be saved on sick time

I guess you were offended by my suggestion???

Transitioning to a 4-12’s shift arrangement is the only sensible course of action in today’s fiscal environment. Not only are 4-12’s the most cost effective use of manpower but it will also negate all issues relating to seniority and days-off.

4-12’s costs less $$$. The agency actually spends more $$$ by going to the 4-10s, where there are still three shifts in a 24 hours period, 6 hours of which the shifts overlap). With 4-12’s you have only two shifts in a 24 hour period instead of three (less $$$$)

If you need an example:

If we need 14 deputies at all times to cover a certain district
----With 4-10’s that’s 14 dep’s each working 10 hours for 3 shifts = 420 man hrs per day
Average dep’s pay $26 an hour = $10,920 per day
----With 4-12’s that’s 14 dep’s each working 12 hours for 2 shifts = 336 man hrs per day
Average dep’s pay $26 an hour = $ 8,736 per day

Then you also have to look at other areas of budget affected by a change in shifts. We still need to employ at least 2 sergeants per shift. On 8-5’s and 4-10’s that means 6 sergeants in a 24 hour period. 4-12s would only require 4 sergeants for the same 24 period. The Sheriff’s Office is saved money.

Why should the average deputy care about all this?

The best benefit is that the seniority issue will be eliminated by going to the 4-12s. With a rotating schedule there is no bidding for days off. The seniority issue will still be "AN ISSUE FOR DAYS OFF" on the 4-10’s.

This will also ensure more job security for all of us deputies. The bottom line in getting and maintaining contract cities is saving money and providing a service that was either equal to or better than what they had before. 4-12s would allow us to do this.

Another example why we need to change:

We have one of our districts in which the city is thinking of contracting with a private company (Navarro Security) because the firm would charge less for police services. THEY ARE REPLACING UNION WORKERS WITH NON-UNION SCAB WITH NO BENEFITS. We need to think about our current and possible future situation in which cities cannot afford their own police department (Due to high wages and pension benefits) or even a contract with the sheriff. If this “Super Exemption Amendment” goes through well we will be screwed because there will be no more extra $$$$ for your 4-10’s. Going to 4-12’s will save us money (Period)………

AND ANOTHER THING: WHAT IS OUR UNION DOING ABOUT THE TOWN REPLACING UNIONIZED DEPUTY SHERIFFS WITH NON-UNION SCABS WITH NO BENEFITS!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would like to see the elimination of deputies being bounced off of their shift and go by senority

If we all worked 4-12 hours shift the senority issue will be a dead one.

VOTE FOR IT 4-12 hours shiftsNo 4 twelves rookie, not gonna happen. 4 10's would be a go. Don't tell me 4 10's would cost more, It will still save a lot more than 5 8's, not to mention what would be saved on sick time

I guess you were offended by my suggestion???

Transitioning to a 4-12’s shift arrangement is the only sensible course of action in today’s fiscal environment. Not only are 4-12’s the most cost effective use of manpower but it will also negate all issues relating to seniority and days-off.

4-12’s costs less $$$. The agency actually spends more $$$ by going to the 4-10s, where there are still three shifts in a 24 hours period, 6 hours of which the shifts overlap). With 4-12’s you have only two shifts in a 24 hour period instead of three (less $$$$)

If you need an example:

If we need 14 deputies at all times to cover a certain district
----With 4-10’s that’s 14 dep’s each working 10 hours for 3 shifts = 420 man hrs per day
Average dep’s pay $26 an hour = $10,920 per day
----With 4-12’s that’s 14 dep’s each working 12 hours for 2 shifts = 336 man hrs per day
Average dep’s pay $26 an hour = $ 8,736 per day

Then you also have to look at other areas of budget affected by a change in shifts. We still need to employ at least 2 sergeants per shift. On 8-5’s and 4-10’s that means 6 sergeants in a 24 hour period. 4-12s would only require 4 sergeants for the same 24 period. The Sheriff’s Office is saved money.

Why should the average deputy care about all this?

The best benefit is that the seniority issue will be eliminated by going to the 4-12s. With a rotating schedule there is no bidding for days off. The seniority issue will still be "AN ISSUE FOR DAYS OFF" on the 4-10’s.

This will also ensure more job security for all of us deputies. The bottom line in getting and maintaining contract cities is saving money and providing a service that was either equal to or better than what they had before. 4-12s would allow us to do this.

Another example why we need to change:

We have one of our districts in which the city is thinking of contracting with a private company (Navarro Security) because the firm would charge less for police services. THEY ARE REPLACING UNION WORKERS WITH NON-UNION SCAB WITH NO BENEFITS. We need to think about our current and possible future situation in which cities cannot afford their own police department (Due to high wages and pension benefits) or even a contract with the sheriff. If this “Super Exemption Amendment” goes through well we will be screwed because there will be no more extra $$$$ for your 4-10’s. Going to 4-12’s will save us money (Period)………

AND ANOTHER THING: WHAT IS OUR UNION DOING ABOUT THE TOWN REPLACING UNIONIZED DEPUTY SHERIFFS WITH NON-UNION SCABS WITH NO BENEFITS!!!!!!!!!!!!Worry about seniority after you have been here 15 - 20 years. Tuff it out like all of us have. Go bloviate somewhere else, 12's are not going to happen. End of story. Rookie.

I would like to see an increase in comp time hours allowed

What would you like to see in a contract from IUPA. If you had a chance to start from scratch and write an entire new contract, what would you like to see in it?GREEN SHIRTS! GREEN SHIRTS! GREEN SHIRTS! :D :D :D

I guess you were offended by my suggestion???

Transitioning to a 4-12’s shift arrangement is the only sensible course of action in today’s fiscal environment. Not only are 4-12’s the most cost effective use of manpower but it will also negate all issues relating to seniority and days-off.

4-12’s costs less $$$. The agency actually spends more $$$ by going to the 4-10s, where there are still three shifts in a 24 hours period, 6 hours of which the shifts overlap). With 4-12’s you have only two shifts in a 24 hour period instead of three (less $$$$)

If you need an example:

If we need 14 deputies at all times to cover a certain district
----With 4-10’s that’s 14 dep’s each working 10 hours for 3 shifts = 420 man hrs per day
Average dep’s pay $26 an hour = $10,920 per day
----With 4-12’s that’s 14 dep’s each working 12 hours for 2 shifts = 336 man hrs per day
Average dep’s pay $26 an hour = $ 8,736 per day

Then you also have to look at other areas of budget affected by a change in shifts. We still need to employ at least 2 sergeants per shift. On 8-5’s and 4-10’s that means 6 sergeants in a 24 hour period. 4-12s would only require 4 sergeants for the same 24 period. The Sheriff’s Office is saved money.

Why should the average deputy care about all this?

The best benefit is that the seniority issue will be eliminated by going to the 4-12s. With a rotating schedule there is no bidding for days off. The seniority issue will still be "AN ISSUE FOR DAYS OFF" on the 4-10’s.

This will also ensure more job security for all of us deputies. The bottom line in getting and maintaining contract cities is saving money and providing a service that was either equal to or better than what they had before. 4-12s would allow us to do this.

Another example why we need to change:

We have one of our districts in which the city is thinking of contracting with a private company (Navarro Security) because the firm would charge less for police services. THEY ARE REPLACING UNION WORKERS WITH NON-UNION SCAB WITH NO BENEFITS. We need to think about our current and possible future situation in which cities cannot afford their own police department (Due to high wages and pension benefits) or even a contract with the sheriff. If this “Super Exemption Amendment” goes through well we will be screwed because there will be no more extra $$$$ for your 4-10’s. Going to 4-12’s will save us money (Period)………

AND ANOTHER THING: WHAT IS OUR UNION DOING ABOUT THE TOWN REPLACING UNIONIZED DEPUTY SHERIFFS WITH NON-UNION SCABS WITH NO BENEFITS!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]

The agency wont go to 4 12's because becuase with rotating days off and an already existing shift differential, it eliminates their ability to use shift and days off as an under the table punishment/reward tool.
Also, technically with a 4 12 schedule there are catually 4 shifts each 12 hour shift would have an A squad and a B squad each would have to have enough staffing to patrol a given district.
It would require double the staffing for a 12 hour shift schedule than a current 8 nour shift.
If you create aa A B shift and eliminate C dividing C in half between A and B then you come up short. you need more personnel.
you save money in the streamlining of management and the decreased use of vacation and sick time that would most likely occur under a 4 12 schedule.
I personnally have close to ten years on the job and would lstill ike to see a 4 12 schedule. I would rather have every other weekend off with 4 days then to have every weekend off with 2.
But alas with the current administration it will never happen.

Worry about seniority after you have been here 15 - 20 years. Tuff it out like all of us have. Go bloviate somewhere else, 12's are not going to happen. End of story. Rookie.

This self centered veteran rhetoric has gotten really old. The way some guys talk you would think police work started at their swearing in ceremony and the only people allowed to ***** are them. Come to think of it *****ing and talking on the radio is the only thing they are good for. Did they give out an award for "most air time" twenty years ago?

I commend the veterans who show up for shift and respond to calls like everyone else. You don't realize those guys are out there because they aren't reminding everyone daily how they have more time on forty than person X has 10-8. That line and its many variants never gets old.

Dollars to donuts the guys finishing their careers with class are the same ones that would give up every other weekend (or whatever) for the betterment of the agency.

Ask gods gift to law enforcement and he'll tell you BSO should never adopt a modern LEO schedule or at least hold off until he retires. Ridiculous.