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07-28-2007, 03:11 PM
Is your agency hiring in south florida ? Please provide me with any info, sounds like an interesting job. I have 25 years L/E experience, thanks in advance.

07-28-2007, 06:19 PM
Your best bet for current opportunities would be to keep checking the official State of Florida website - www.myflorida.com (http://www.myflorida.com). On the home page ( lower left side) you will see a "state employment" block with a search function. All open positions are posted there. As luck would have it, the site appears to be down this weekend. There are almost always open slots for Law Enforcement Investigator II (special agent) in Miami, Lauderdale, West Palm, Keys, and Fort Myers. You will stay busy and there are many agents who have "retired" from other agencies currently working.
Good Luck.

08-14-2007, 06:47 AM
Is your agency hiring in south florida ? Please provide me with any info, sounds like an interesting job. I have 25 years L/E experience, thanks in advance.

Sounds quite boring to me. Not to mention the fact that it takes a act of congress for you all to take someones liquor license away. Too many slaps on the wrist for what amounts to these stores selling alcohol to our children.

08-14-2007, 12:33 PM
You are correct sir. Can be boring. Can be exciting. Just depends on what you are looking for. The positives out weigh the negatives. I will take "boring" if it means I don't have to:
Deal with shift work
Answer calls
Work crashes
Any one with any sense could not care less about what happens after they make a case, criminal or admininstrative. When I worked the road, I made the arrest or issued the ticket. My job was done. I didn't waste my time worrying about what the courts did with it.
You want to change what happens when a store violates they law? Start with the legislature. They make the rules we all have to live by.

08-15-2007, 11:45 PM
Do not work here. The Secretary and Asst. Secretary are political idiots. Why do they keep bringing people like that here. In all my many years, I only see it getting worse. Two steps ahead, three steps back. A common dance.

08-16-2007, 01:28 AM
I agree the secretary and deputy are political idiots, that want to pretend they are for us, the agents when they are just trying to puch their agendas. They are both corrupt and only out for them selfs. They were down here in the field recently and were soooooooooooooo fake.

08-16-2007, 01:48 AM
:shock: :shock: :shock:

08-16-2007, 02:24 AM
Let me make sure I understand this. The Secretary and Deputy travel around and ask for input. They hear its time for a change. They make a change with a new director and probably a new chief. Add a new major to the mix and you have the nerve to infer they are political hacks? What agenda are you referring to? I would like to know, so I have a better grasp of what is happening. If you have been here any time at all, you would know that the folks at Nothwood have to be politicians. If you haven't figured it out yet, let me help you>
This is not a traditional law enforcement agency. This is a regulatory agency with law enforcement powers. Your job is to regulate the alcohol and tobacco industry. If you don't think that requires a "political touch" you are delusional. To infer they are corrupt is offensive to me, and I suspect to most everyone else.

guestabt
08-19-2007, 12:22 AM
What he said...

08-19-2007, 01:32 AM
Show me a police department, and I'll show you a politician at the helm. It doesn't matter if your title is Chief or Sheriff, it's a political slot. It is true that in the past, as it will be in the future, we have had and will have idiots in charge. Is it fair to say these things about our current, new Secretary and Deputy Secretary? No. I believe it is only fair to give them the appropriate time to prove themselves to us. Perhaps it took some time, but they apparently heard us, because the "Wedge" and "Box-of-Rocks" are being let go.

Yes, we did get screwed out of a raise, and yes, we do have to deal with a piss-poor budget...however, it is not fair to blame the people who weren't even here last year, because they have to deal with it even more than we do. The problem is that too many people have their hands in the pot. The legislature is responsible for this, DMS handles that, Tally can decide one thing, but others can be decided by your office. I've seen less red-tape in a 3M factory.

Screwed up decisions have led to the current issues. Some of those were made by politicians and some have been made by "Wedge" (the simplest and basic of tools) and "Box-of -Rocks." Now we have the opportunity for change. It may take a while for all to be in place, but at least we have the opprtunity.

The best thing that could happen is that we get a Director and Chief who will look at the situation with prudence. We need to cut expenses, right? Here's how we do it:
1- Go back to three Majors, not five.
2- Get rid of Captains Troglodite and BVD...they are completely useless
3- Get rid of KPI's
4- Obtain grants
5- Put the agents on task forces. They help make money.
6- Get the casinos back from FDLE - these things are cash-cows. We gave them up and now FDLE doesn't want them.
7- Get old laptops from FDLE. Once gotten, we can clean them out and get air cards for them. Give us all a VPN access so we can work from the road. Let the secretaries do the filing and folder set-ups and admin cases; all of which will keep us more productive and wasting less money on office expenses.
8- After performing step #7, sell most of the desk-top computers.
9- Raise the fees for licenses and fines for violations.

Any other ideas?

08-19-2007, 02:10 AM
Do away with ICARE. This was a bad idea made worse. We have always investigated youth alcohol tragedy events. It's called doing your job not ICARE. The trend seems to be to add a fancy name to the everyday thing you do and all the sudden it has more meaning. Utter nonsense.
We sent a person to grant writing school, so maybe we will see something come out of it.
Go back to regional training instead of sending everyone to Pat Thomas. Inact a "penaly surcharge" for anyone above the rank of agent that uses accred. as a basis for bad decisions/policy/procedures. This move will add more money to abt than that sad theory that closing home offices would increase productivity!!!!!!

08-19-2007, 02:57 AM
I would add to get rid of all the Majors and start over - task forces are a great idea except to get on them you have to kiss someone's a#$. ICARE I agree is a waste - we did that long before there were actually agents doing it full time - how many cases have they made - 5? What a joke. Maybe we can sell the marked cars to someone who would use them - FHP maybe?

Oh well - until we get rid of the people who have been here screwing the place up - we will never change. I hope the DepSec listened to what people told him - maybe the statewide inspection trainers can come back up here and give their input - they know everything else!

guestabt
08-19-2007, 02:59 AM
I have my own lap top and would be willing to buy my own air card, but I was told that we can not use the VPN on our own laptops. Why is this? Security? I have to use a log on to get on the VPN/network who cares where it happens? It would be great to do the work in the field and then send an email letting the appropriate people know that the case is completed. If something needs to be printed out let the staff at the office do it, let the agents do the work needed in the field.

I agree with raising the fines and fees, but they need to implement those fines and make the process quicker for penalties.

I also agree with the training issue, this crap of ging to Tallahassee everytine we need to train sucks. Not to mention cost way more than the class at the academy near you would have cost.

08-19-2007, 06:17 PM
Well the training wouldn't be bad, if we had someone that knows what they are doing . The training Lt. sucks and he don't know what he is doing. Has he ever gotten the basic instructor training?

ICARE is such a waste. They say they spend all this time working cases, then only get a misdeamnor arrest. How is this good for the agency????

08-19-2007, 10:25 PM
I agree - did the training LT become an instructor yet? Notice he never teaches any of the classes at in-service - why is he here? Oh, hooked up with the command staff - was big in east piskiswtich county so too i heard...

Like basic beverage - being taught by the same old people who teach everything - here I am at Pat Thomas again - wasting my time and the states money. BUt then again that is how this place is - promote those who have been here less than 6 months - hire an internal affairs lt who has never been an agent and now move her to fort myers to command an office - move freaking cave to tallahasse - never been an agent - let bvd write policies again - never been a cop - what a place...

09-05-2007, 05:20 AM
I have to disagree with you all on at least one thing. I thought the new training Lt. was 10-8. I can remember two years ago shooting at a video game and having no hands on D/T. Now, we are hands on and doing some real shooting. The stress shoot alone was awesome! I dislike having the same old instructors every time but that is life. I enjoyed my last in-service. I have to say I was scared at what I saw in a lot of the agents in my class though. Can't cuff, give orders, shoot, etc. I pride myself on being tactically minded and ready for whatever, but some of what I saw shocked the hell out of me. We are on our own out there most of the time. We can be our own worst enemies out there. I give props to Lt. K for steppin' it up a notch. Yeah, he was never a field agent for this division but his service to our country in Iraq and his prior LEO service more than qualifies him to train in many regards. Being an instructor myself at an academy, I understand the task that goes with coordinating a large scale training event. He has his hands full to say the least. Don't knock the man and don't knock the training. You should be thankful to be getting it. When the metal meets the meat, training is all we have to fall back on. It could mean the difference in seeing your wife/husband and kids at the end of the day or having your name on some wall as a reminder of what could happen. If you are not an instructor and have no want to be, keep your mouth retracted about what and who we have. It could be a lot worse like when there was no training unit at all.

I would definitely enhance our abilities to train in the districts again. What’s wrong with taking the squads out to the field for some refresher shooting? You perform how you train and unless you are like me who loves to shoot and practice, you are going to get your ass handed to you in a tight spot. Each district should have a training agent (with incentive pay of course, 2-5%) who coordinates with Lt. K. and performs training in the field on new techniques and refresher. It wouldn’t cost hardly anything at all and it would be beneficial to our safety and well being. We could still have in-service but some things could be handled on a district level leaving more time for other highlights that never get mentioned. Just an idea.

09-05-2007, 07:46 PM
What he said... :)

07-07-2013, 06:11 PM
Are you hiring?

07-07-2013, 07:24 PM
No one in the field knows for sure. All open positions in need of a body are listed on the State of Florida job search website - People First. Take a look at myflorida.com for vacancy updates.