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06-14-2007, 10:48 PM
http://cbs4.com/topstories/local_story_165164856.html

Huge Pensions Plaguing Cities Looking At Cuts

The fight over property tax reform in Tallahassee has many talking about the potential cuts to essential services.

Thursday firefighters from across the state gathered on the steps of the state capitol to oppose the cuts, saying they would jeopardize the safety of those they serve.

Police, firemen, and government employees account for a large part of the tax bill we pay yearly to the state. Not only do Floridians pay for their salaries, they also pay their pensions.

A Miami Dade fire lieutenant making about $86-thousand a year will retire with an annual pension of about $65-thousand, or 75-percent of his pay.

A City of Miami police lieutenant who makes roughly $92-thousand a year will retire at $75-thousand, or 81-percent of his salary.

Police and fire officials say they earn their pension by putting their lives on the line every day.

But it is not just police and firefighters who receive a government paid pension.

CBS4's Gary Nelson found that at the City of Miami, a mid-level bureaucrat making $75-thousand a year can retire at 72-percent of his salary, or $52-thousand a year.

But those pensions may not be around for ever.

In 2002, Miami paid $19 million in pension costs. In 2006, that tab ballooned to $61 million a year; an increase of 400-percent in four years.

"It can not stay the way it is," said Miami Mayor Manny Diaz, "we certainly recognize it and have recognized it for a while."

Diaz says things must change and a good place to start is in Tallahassee since it was the legislature that mandated that these retirement expenses by paid by the taxpayer.

06-14-2007, 11:06 PM
Here we go! Get the lube ready,especially you old timers!

06-15-2007, 12:16 AM
understand that the FIPO trust is an irrevolcable trust. That came out of the Gates lawsuit against the city. That means that every member of the trust has to vote to end it, the trust. And once you retire, your pension is paid unless the city declares bankruptcy. There is no city cola. that comes form excess funds the trust makes in the stock market. So the market does bad , so does the cola. Now if they clean up the millions they are giving away as building homes for low income citizens, the trust fund will be fine. But if they have to go after pensions, Manny's has to be first. Yeah right.

09-21-2008, 03:24 PM
manny donated his pension to the make a fire fee foundation.

09-22-2008, 12:34 PM
Don't worry about Manny, He'll be fine. Worry about yourself.

10-01-2008, 04:19 AM
All you veterans on the bubble should start packing your shit and prep to dip outta here. SeeYaaa

10-01-2008, 04:31 AM
All you veterans on the bubble should start packing your shizzat and prep to dip outta here. SeeYaaa


YOu can loose 30k now or 200k later!!!

Scary times