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06-13-2007, 01:20 AM
when there is a change....

06-13-2007, 05:25 PM
UNIFORMS...tired of looking like milkmen. Sgt. and above can wear the white but let us on patrol wear green and look professional. White is too much of a target at night and waaay to easy to get dirty.

Assessment center to promote for Sgt. and LT.

Make Det. a rank and not a transfer.

At least four years on the road before you can go test for Sgt. or go to a special unit.

Cut back on all the paperwork

Let us be COPS!!!!!!

06-13-2007, 07:46 PM
-uniforms
-Sgt. Promotions by what u score on the test/assestment center
-Certified LEO as Sheriff


And stop spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on that 5th floor and give it to the guys that earn it not the crooked politicians up-stairs

06-13-2007, 08:42 PM
UNIFORMS...tired of looking like milkmen. Sgt. and above can wear the white but let us on patrol wear green and look professional. White is too much of a target at night and waaay to easy to get dirty.

Assessment center to promote for Sgt. and LT.

Make Det. a rank and not a transfer.

At least four years on the road before you can go test for Sgt. or go to a special unit.

Cut back on all the paperwork

Let us be COPS!!!!!!

accredidated agency

green shirt / green trousers for all sworn
make all bailiff's certified not political

06-14-2007, 12:44 PM
UNIFORMS...tired of looking like milkmen. Sgt. and above can wear the white but let us on patrol wear green and look professional. White is too much of a target at night and waaay to easy to get dirty.

Assessment center to promote for Sgt. and LT.

Make Det. a rank and not a transfer.

At least four years on the road before you can go test for Sgt. or go to a special unit.

Cut back on all the paperwork

Let us be COPS!!!!!!

Agree on green uniforms and let sgt's and above wear either one.

We have FTD's now. Make a corporal rank that gets 2.5% more and let them also be the FTD's. Then when a sgt goes on vacation the corporal can act in that place. This way you won't have the OT *****en we get now from adm and they won't call the LT's in to run the shift.

I agree that there should be a 1 to 5 list pick or 1-3 list pick for sgt. Min 4 years as Deputy. Otherwise just have no sgt's test and stop what they are doing now and select who they want instead of getting everyone studing for something that some people never get a chance to get even if they get a passing score. Right now no one knows what passing is and they say what the cut off is and pick anyone they want anyway. :(

Someone has to stand up to the contract cities who no longer want to pay for the correct number of deputies. The cities are crying the blues and continue to cut manpower to where it is now becoming unsafe for the deputies to work too short handed. :shock:

Love working here but they are letting the cities control just too much. I also feel that alot of good supervisors are being passed by for not having the right clout. :roll:

06-24-2007, 02:38 AM
I agree the promotional process at BSO is a joke. You must know somebody to get promoted. You could be a stand up deputy with lots of experince and be passed on to promote a female who's had about a year of road experience. Nice work Jenne. Also, we need a sheriff with police experience not an attorney or politician. Last but not least, we need to do something about the PBA. I don't know if IUPA is the answer but something needs to be done. Everybody knows they are in bed with the sheriff. I just know who's on top the sheriff or Brickman. Stay safe.

06-24-2007, 06:27 AM
I agree the promotional process at BSO is a joke. You must know somebody to get promoted. You could be a stand up deputy with lots of experince and be passed on to promote a female who's had about a year of road experience. Nice work Jenne. Also, we need a sheriff with police experience not an attorney or politician. Last but not least, we need to do something about the PBA. I don't know if IUPA is the answer but something needs to be done. Everybody knows they are in bed with the sheriff. I just know who's on top the sheriff or Brickman. Stay safe. L/D????

06-25-2007, 12:00 AM
The ability to transfer, and the District 11 Administration

superlw8
06-27-2007, 05:04 AM
[quote="Hopefull"]

Make Det. a rank and not a transfer.

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yeah....unfortunately thats a CALEA thing, and you know how we love accreditation.

superlw8
06-27-2007, 05:08 AM
10-12 hour shifts would be nice

And let's start hiring based upon qualifications and not the fact that a black female looks a whole lot better on stats no matter how retarded she is.

Let's focus on treating our deputies right, standing behind them, supporting them and backing their decisions.

Let's address the low staffing by taking care of our guys not just continually hiring anyone too stupid to work at any other agency to replace the guys we are losing to the better departments.

06-27-2007, 11:42 AM
[quote="superlw8"]10-12 hour shifts would be nice

And let's start hiring based upon qualifications and not the fact that a black female looks a whole lot better on stats no matter how retarded she is.

Let's focus on treating our deputies right, standing behind them, supporting them and backing their decisions.

Let's address the low staffing by taking care of our guys not just continually hiring anyone too stupid to work at any other agency to replace the guys we are losing to the better dep

4 ten hour days would be excellent and would cut down on use of sick leave but forget about the 12 hour shifts, all that happens is you work and sleep, not a good shift at all. The dog is cute but his ears look as if they were bitten on......... does he know Iron Mike Tyson????

06-27-2007, 01:44 PM
Charlie Tiger, the seminole chief, is running for sheriff, is that true?

superlw8
06-28-2007, 05:52 AM
4 ten hour days would be excellent and would cut down on use of sick leave but forget about the 12 hour shifts, all that happens is you work and sleep, not a good shift at all. The dog is cute but his ears look as if they were bitten on......... does he know Iron Mike Tyson????

No, not bitten off, those are his happy ears :) lol

06-28-2007, 02:28 PM
4 ten hour days would be excellent and would cut down on use of sick leave but forget about the 12 hour shifts, all that happens is you work and sleep, not a good shift at all. The dog is cute but his ears look as if they were bitten on......... does he know Iron Mike Tyson????

No, not bitten off, those are his happy ears :) lol

No one gives a crap about your dog, why don't you go try to find a boyfriend you freakin wacko!!!!!!

07-01-2007, 02:58 PM
I want whatever you take. I want the vision to because I just don't see it. Making an FTD rank would be like giving a child a razor blade. Let's not even start on the misguilded case clearing by The Detective's. Some got away with execeptional clearances some did'nt. Say no to drugs, and say no to newly developed ranks to make the completely lazy feel better.

07-01-2007, 06:25 PM
I want whatever you take. I want the vision to because I just don't see it. Making an FTD rank would be like giving a child a razor blade. Let's not even start on the misguilded case clearing by The Detective's. Some got away with execeptional clearances some did'nt. Say no to drugs, and say no to newly developed ranks to make the completely lazy feel better.

I am a Detective, and I agree with the Grunt. Truth be told this agency can not even get people to become Detectives because of it's history. When they put out C.I. openings they end up with a list of between 10-15 Deputies out of 1800 sworn Deputies, that is sad. What Grunt says is true some of the current Detectives are lame and lazy, it would not be right to waive a magic wand and give them some sort of rank.

Promotions should be done fairly and they should be deserved and they should be earned through hardwork, experience, knowledge, common sense, and integrity.

07-04-2007, 04:10 AM
I agree the promotional process at BSO is a joke. You must know somebody to get promoted. You could be a stand up deputy with lots of experince and be passed on to promote a female who's had about a year of road experience. Nice work Jenne. Also, we need a sheriff with police experience not an attorney or politician. Last but not least, we need to do something about the PBA. I don't know if IUPA is the answer but something needs to be done. Everybody knows they are in bed with the sheriff. I just know who's on top the sheriff or Brickman. Stay safe.

who is the female with a year of road experience....i need to get on her career path plan. :lol:

07-04-2007, 11:58 AM
I can think of two right of the bat. One was constantly pregnant that she ended up working in the DB on light duty. When she finally returned to full status she stayed in the DB. Next thing you know she is promoted. Another was in one the road just over a year before going to SID and then being promoted.

08-03-2007, 11:06 PM
SOULE WANTS TO CUT COLONELS AND GIVE PAY TO ROAD DEPS TOPPING THEM AT 90,000

08-04-2007, 12:23 AM
I want whatever you take. I want the vision to because I just don't see it. Making an FTD rank would be like giving a child a razor blade. Let's not even start on the misguilded case clearing by The Detective's. Some got away with execeptional clearances some did'nt. Say no to drugs, and say no to newly developed ranks to make the completely lazy feel better.

Well, If they made these a rank, then there'd be an exam that you'd have to pass (if we're talking about real change here). As for FTD, let's make them all take the Sgt.'s test, since they'd be a D.I.C. If they don't want to be Sgt. then pass them by without malice. I get what you're saying. I know an FTD who is nothing but a waste of space, and couldn't pass the Sgt.'s test if he had it in his hand. :snicker: :devil:

08-07-2007, 09:49 PM
when there is a change....


I agree with fed up I would choose Sheriff Dennis Creamer my dream ticket is Creamer/Vrchota/Soule republican ticket. Jenne the dumocrat would not have a chance in 2008. Soule was a Air Force Military Police Chief, desert storm vet, brought Jenne/Brennan to there knees in 2005 after Brennan made threats to 30 staff members. He retired from bso. He began his career in law enforcement in 1982. Soule came in 4th place out of 13 candidates for Sheriff in 2004. Retired in 2005. Brennan/Frey/Jenne forced Soule out.

Dennis honest Creamer who stated in law enforcement in the late 60's fought in vietnam and was Police Chief at BSO and the Air Force Police Chief. Retired in 2004. He nailed Jenne/Brennan on stats. Jenne forced him out because he was right.

Chief Roy integrity Vrchota (35 years in law enfocement) retired in 2005, was the Chief of Police in Deerfield and was the Inspector General of Internal Affairs. Roy nailed Jenne/Brennan on all kinds of corruption. They could stand up to jennes cronies at the psb.

08-07-2007, 11:02 PM
If I were Sheriff I would have free ice cream on tuesdays and pajama fridays.

08-08-2007, 02:52 AM
Lets see, a decent Sheriff would be a candidate who is LEO certified, has common sense, and the ability not only to lead but also to follow.

The Sheriff needs to be a person who has good communication skills, as well as people skills in general. Someone who is not afraid to get feedback from the Deputies and take action without upsetting their own ego.

Some of the main issues:
Top priority would be to get the agency on a uniform system, no more of each district doing their own thing. This system would include uniformity in paperwork, operating procedures, ect......
Second, I believe that the contractual issues need to be addressed and updated to be a fair and equitable contract in comparison with surrounding jurisdictions.
Third, I believe that we can start to work on training issues and the amount of training Deputies recieve. I also believe that the administration must also attend the same training that Deputies are mandated to recieve and they should train with the Deputies
Fourth, Once we move through all of the logistical areas of the agency I believe we need to work on the uniforms, equipment, and further more the rank structure.
Also on the rank structure issue:
Lieutenants and above shall be required to spend time on the road with road patrol of at least 16 hrs a month.
Any one promoted to Sergeant shall spend at least their probationary year as a road patrol sergeant. No more of this being promoted and put right into a specialized unit. This is not fair to the sergeants who did their time as a road sergeant.
This goes the same for a Lieutenant. No Lieutenants being promoted right to a Executive Officer of a District.
All in all the higher administration would be cut down to only the needed positions.

As of now this is all I will write, please excuse any grammatical errors in this email. No one man or woman is perfect but we can work together and take constructive critism, and so should the Sheriff of this agency.

Please post your feedback and anything that you agree or disagree with. I will gladly listen, whether we get to the top or not. It never hurts to dream of what we want and what the would like to achieve.

Let us all stand together as one.

Deputy101

08-08-2007, 05:07 PM
The problem with police administration across the country is that the flavor of the month is accountablilty, be it POWERTAC, COMPSTAT, Round Table...whatever you want to call it. Administrators all know the problems that these systems cause ie. stats manipulation and such. Each administrator thinks that they have the key to making the system work but they don't because this sytem is inherently flawed and like any other system can not be perfect.
Most administrators have reached their maximum level of incompatence (Peter Principal) and do not have any original ideas and just go with what they know. Until an administrator comes up with a new original idea and the courage to implement it, we will be stuck with a police systems based on accountability. This is going on accross the county.
Accountability is necessary for streamlining the use of resources and techniques in such a way that our efforts are more more efficient, and cost effective.. but definately not in for use in the direct corralation with crime stats. the way in which we patrol and do our jobs on the street will have no effect on crime stats.
Economy, Legislation, Social Programs, and local Governments willingness to assist our efforts through budjeting, manpower, court systems that are pro law enforcement etc... These are the systems that can make an effect on crime rate.
Like a mechanic, it doesn't matter how many cars you fix, cars will still break down... only by building a better car can this correlation be changed.

08-12-2007, 01:44 AM
The problem with police administration across the country is that the flavor of the month is accountablilty, be it POWERTAC, COMPSTAT, Round Table...whatever you want to call it. Administrators all know the problems that these systems cause ie. stats manipulation and such. Each administrator thinks that they have the key to making the system work but they don't because this sytem is inherently flawed and like any other system can not be perfect.
Most administrators have reached their maximum level of incompatence (Peter Principal) and do not have any original ideas and just go with what they know. Until an administrator comes up with a new original idea and the courage to implement it, we will be stuck with a police systems based on accountability. This is going on accross the county.
Accountability is necessary for streamlining the use of resources and techniques in such a way that our efforts are more more efficient, and cost effective.. but definately not in for use in the direct corralation with crime stats. the way in which we patrol and do our jobs on the street will have no effect on crime stats.
Economy, Legislation, Social Programs, and local Governments willingness to assist our efforts through budjeting, manpower, court systems that are pro law enforcement etc... These are the systems that can make an effect on crime rate.
Like a mechanic, it doesn't matter how many cars you fix, cars will still break down... only by building a better car can this correlation be changed.

I find it interesting many suggestions in this thread are the way PBSO currently operates.

Did any of you know Sheriff Bradshaw gave STRIKE the ax recently?

Bradshaw stated STRIKE is a waste of time. He would often sit in the back of meetings tapping his watch at the colonel, telling him to move on.

Bradshaw said nothing was being done in STRIKE that couldnt be done via email.

We get the tools to do our job correctly, including picking our own sidearms in multiple different calibers makes and models, and our own AR15's with optics and lighting systems.

For quick deployment, we are encouraged to carry our rifles on our passenger seat while patrolling. Deployment is at each individual deputies discretion.

Our safety comes first.