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04-14-2007, 11:37 AM
For some reason, no one that I spoke with from the P.P.P.D., could answer this question. Maybe one of you can help me out...

This past Tuesday, one of my neighbors informed me that, while I was at work, two (possibly three) Pinellas Park Police Officers were walking around my property (front and back yard) and looking through my windows. Of course, my first thought was that maybe someone was trying to break into my house or was trespassing or something. But when I called down to the P.P.P.D. to inquire about this, I was very surprised at the answer I got... The woman who answered the phone informed me that she was unable to locate any calls reported at my address. This seemed very odd to me... why would 2 or 3 police officers be walking around my property and looking through windows, yet nothing was documented and no one seemed to know anything about it? From there, I contacted Chief Thomas with the hopes that she would be able to help out. I figured that if anyone could give me some answers, it would be the Chief of Police, right? Wrong. She asked me what my address was (I'm guessing, so she could look into it), but that was the last I heard from her.
Is this normal? How is it possible that 2 or 3 officers were at the same location, walking around my property and looking through windows, yet nothing at all was documented and no one, including the Chief of Police, knows anything about it?
I'm not jumping to conclusions, or accusing anyone of any wrong doing. It's just that, this whole situation seems very peculiar.

04-14-2007, 01:21 PM
Suffice it to say that if two or three of our officers were walking around your house, we had a legitimate reason to do so. Contrary to any belief any one may have, we do not start our day off by saying "What house are we going to try and peek into without letting our dispatch, Chief, or the resident know."

If you want to know what the Chief of Police has or has not found out, I suggest you contact the Chief of Police again if in fact you contacted her in the first place as you suggest.

I am not sure what you expected to accomplish by coming onto this website unless this is a bogus issue. We do not discuss police operations, calls for service, or other operational issues on here for obvious reasons.

04-14-2007, 02:32 PM
Actually "concerned citizen" The PPPD probably heard that there was a naked "Hottie" inside your house and they wanted to get a look. (NOT!) Did you ever stop to think that maybe something might have happened at a neighbors house, possibly several addresses away and they were checking several homes to make sure that you were not a victim also. Another theory is that your neighbor is a "wackjob" and trying to start some trouble. I assume that you spoke with Thomas on Wednesday, and I'm sure she has other "fish to fry" besides your simple question. Give her a few days to speak with her people before you come on this site to stir the pot. I have been in thousands of yards in my LEO career and I have not documented each and every one. Be safe all.

04-14-2007, 02:55 PM
Move your marijuana grow now!!!

04-14-2007, 05:35 PM
I can understand your concern about stuff in your neighborhood, and would have given you a more friendly answer until you said “not accusing anyone of wrongdoing” which is really accusing them of wrongdoing, and suggested our chief was blowing you off. So here is my response to your question. Before you imply that the officers were taking part of wrongdoing you should ride with a police officer sometime if you really want to know what the job consists of because I can see from your comments you have no idea what police work is all about. Officers frequently do self initiated activity. Maybe they were assisting the fire department. Maybe they saw someone suspicious. Maybe they heard a scream and discovered it was 2 cats f*******. Who knows what it was. The point is is that it doesn't matter. Obviously if dispatchers had no information on the call, it was not a big deal. Instead of accusing them of wrongdoing, maybe you should be happy about the police presence and not question the motive. Citizens like you make me want to quit this job and tell you to go f yourself. You can take your peculiar impressions and put it where the sun doesn’t shine. If it weren’t for pains in the a**** like you, our dispatchers and chief might have more time to actually do the job they were paid to do rather than hunt down some phantom call that you imply is hidden in secrecy behind some false claim of wrongdoing. Please get off our board.

04-14-2007, 05:52 PM
I can understand your concern about stuff in your neighborhood, and would have given you a more friendly answer until you said “not accusing anyone of wrongdoing” which is really accusing them of wrongdoing, and suggested our chief was blowing you off. So here is my response to your question. Before you imply that the officers were taking part of wrongdoing you should ride with a police officer sometime if you really want to know what the job consists of because I can see from your comments you have no idea what police work is all about. Officers frequently do self initiated activity. Maybe they were assisting the fire department. Maybe they saw someone suspicious. Maybe they heard a scream and discovered it was 2 cats f*******. Who knows what it was. The point is is that it doesn't matter. Obviously if dispatchers had no information on the call, it was not a big deal. Instead of accusing them of wrongdoing, maybe you should be happy about the police presence and not question the motive. Citizens like you make me want to quit this job and tell you to go f yourself. You can take your peculiar impressions and put it where the sun doesn’t shine. If it weren’t for pains in the a**** like you, our dispatchers and chief might have more time to actually do the job they were paid to do rather than hunt down some phantom call that you imply is hidden in secrecy behind some false claim of wrongdoing. Please get off our board.

Mrs. Badcrumble
04-14-2007, 08:29 PM
Please ignore my coworkers who seem to forget who the public servant is in this scenario.

Sometimes, for a variety of reasons, police officers do not call in their location (i.e. computers are down, dispatch is busy). So, there is most likely no dastardly reason why there is no documentation of this incident.

The officers may have been at the address because it was given as the location of a fugitive (sometimes they lie about where they live, or they lived there before you), and they were checking to see if that person was there.

The officers may have been on a call in the area, and checked your property in an attempt to locate a suspect.

The officers may have not been PPPD. I know your neighbor said they were, but there are other agencies with jurisdiction, such as the Sheriff's Office that may have been in the area for the above reasons as well.

Chief Thomas is a good administrator, and if you check back I'm sure she will have looked into it and will have an answer.

Feel free to call and check on what we're doing if you are wondering. We work for you and you have a RIGHT to know what we're doing except if a VERY FEW circumstances.

Good luck!

04-15-2007, 12:34 PM
Please ignore my coworkers who seem to forget who the public servant is in this scenario.

Sometimes, for a variety of reasons, police officers do not call in their location (i.e. computers are down, dispatch is busy). So, there is most likely no dastardly reason why there is no documentation of this incident.

The officers may have been at the address because it was given as the location of a fugitive (sometimes they lie about where they live, or they lived there before you), and they were checking to see if that person was there.

The officers may have been on a call in the area, and checked your property in an attempt to locate a suspect.

The officers may have not been PPPD. I know your neighbor said they were, but there are other agencies with jurisdiction, such as the Sheriff's Office that may have been in the area for the above reasons as well.

Chief Thomas is a good administrator, and if you check back I'm sure she will have looked into it and will have an answer.

Feel free to call and check on what we're doing if you are wondering. We work for you and you have a RIGHT to know what we're doing except if a VERY FEW circumstances.

Good luck!

Thank you for your insight and advise in this this matter. I was actually really surprised to come back to this message board and find all these negative responses- So, thank for giving me a legitimate answer.

And to the rest of you.... I apologize for apparently giving off the impression that I thought some of your fellow officers were up to any wrongdoing. From the beginning, I never doubted that the officers' reasons for being here were legitimate- The only reason I was inquiring about this, is to make sure it wasn't anything I needed to be worried about. And believe me... if I was accusing those officers of any type of misconduct, I would just came out and said it- but like I said, that's certainly not what I was doing.
Allow me to finish by saying this... I find it extremely disappointing that, as a resident of Pinellas Park, I can't even ask about what's going on in my community without getting rogue responses from my own local police dept.. Even the woman I spoke with when I called the PD gave me an attitude- as if I was bothering her or something. I certainly hope that all inquiries aren't treated in this manner.

04-15-2007, 07:56 PM
It seem everyone has an attitude except you. You need to know this board isn't for you, and this is a very, very "wierd" way to ask about someone looking into your house, the average citizen doesn't get on a police board to ask. As much time as you spend typing, I'm glad the average citizen isn't like you. Very strange way of going about things.

04-15-2007, 10:35 PM
Citizen, if that is what you are, we(officers) find it odd that citizens such as yourself, know to come to this board to ask questions. Questions you already asked to our highest ranking official, but now you feel the need to question officers on a police website about them being in your yard and looking into your windows. If your home had been burglarized or had been damaged, you would be wanting to know where the police presence was during these events. I for one would rather have an officer wander into my yard, then a scumbag criminal. I do not think your claim is valid based on the fact you knew to come to this website to stir the pot. If your claim is legit, the chief will check with her staff to find out what did happen. But lastly I will say this, complaints such as these, create tension for officers who may stop extra patrolling neighborhoods on foot, stop doing house checks when people request them during their vacations, and stop getting out of their cars when suspicious persons are around. Officers have enough liability to deal with as is and we are very underpaid for the work we do and the risks we take. Sleep tight

04-16-2007, 03:48 PM
Hey "wrong way"...jesus, how many ways can you make we (LEO) and yourself look bad? For one thing, this is a PUBLIC WEB SITE who can be accessed by ANYONE with a computer. If you think the original poster was trying to "stir the pot" then you must really be sensitive. Also, enuff with the melo-drama already. Everyone knows we have a high risk job. At least we have the ability to defend ourselves even to the point of deadly force. Think about the 7-11 clerks, cab drivers, etc...that are at the mercy of their attackers making minimum wage. You may feel underpaid if you are some overdramatic rookie (which you sound like) but for the most part the rest of us are pretty well compensated with ot, off duty, teaching, etc...Find another gig if you are already moaning about being in law enforcement 'cause you ain't long for this and I wouldn't want a puzzy like you on a call anyway. Sleep tight, moron and don't forget you're pacifier and blanky. :roll:

04-16-2007, 06:06 PM
wrong way and the others that have negative responses to the citizen need to grow up. you're not part of an exclusive club, our chosen profession is serving and protecting the public in case you forgot. wrong way you need to get out of law enforcement all together, whiny biotch. law enforcement is a tough job which can easily be performed by tough individuals who can take care of business. all you paranoid, don't get enough pats on the back, disgrace to the badge just give it up.

04-16-2007, 08:10 PM
You should not engage this "citizen" in conversation. You do not know the circumstances, you may be giving critical info to.....well who knows, you all don't. Maybe this person is under surveillance, maybe it was another agency setting up for a warrant...you don't know, all you have is an anonymous person making an unconfirmed statement.

The proper couse is to politely refer them to 541-0758 and have them ask for a supervisor.

Loose lips sink ships (and cause people to get hurt)...operational security is everyone's responsibility.

04-16-2007, 08:33 PM
You're right, sucka. I see all kinds of classified info spilled on this site. Paranoia will destroy ya.

04-17-2007, 03:15 PM
Man, did you ever save my azz. I work at the N.B. and was just about to announce on this site the address, time and m.o. of a S.W. we are about to execute. Thanks to your brilliant post, you stopped me in time. Are you sure you are not some kind of commander or ops specialist????? :lol:

04-18-2007, 12:05 AM
Info has been given out on here before....why entertain an anonymous poster because he calls himself "citizen"

04-18-2007, 12:05 AM
Info has been given out on here before....why entertain an anonymous poster because he calls himself "citizen"

04-18-2007, 03:30 PM
i've been on this site plenty of times and never have seen any kind of information provided that could be dangerous to leo's. I believe we are all smarter then that, at least I hope so.

04-19-2007, 12:50 AM
Just don't

04-23-2007, 01:09 AM
YOU GUYS SOUND LIKE THE KNOW IT ALL SOP WHO TREATS ROUTINE EVERY CALL LIKE A SWAT CALL OUT!! :roll: :roll:

04-23-2007, 04:01 AM
ok