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03-25-2007, 03:30 AM

Hell that was the best thing that could have happened to them. They got their vid up on YouTube. lol

The funny thing is they don't know a damn thing about Bush. They don't know a damn thing about anything. All they know is they think they are fighting the system, no matter what system, and protesting anything and everything.

If you stood there and asked them questions about current world affairs and what is really going on in the world, they couldn't tell you anything. While we are out working for a living they are standing on a street corner protesting just to protest something.

There are Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs in this world.

03-26-2007, 01:46 PM

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YOU ARE DA MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You go Dude!!!!

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03-26-2007, 05:27 PM

STAR TEAM ROCKS!!! Good work guys.. be safe

03-27-2007, 12:36 AM

a bunch of thugs. Like someone posted what was the statute and charge? Someone said disorderly conduct, not so according to the supreme court. I hope this isn't a reflection of your agency.

03-27-2007, 01:51 AM

No, actually those Deputies looked and acted professionally in the face of the biggest A-holes Pinellas county has.

If you want to protest that's fine. But how do you sway other citizens when you protest like a bunch of 8th graders dropping the F-bomb.

You sir are WRONG. You should take your angst against those idiot citizens!

03-27-2007, 05:45 AM

easy trip to JAC and the mother would have gone to CJ. Bitc* I said step back. Yeah I would have taken the video tape as evidence. Also once you 10-15 the minor he is no longer the responsibility of the mother. I think the video is great evidence for DCF. Unstable mother. By they way do we want people to stand on 19 and curlew and old sighs with the f bomb. I think not, that does cover disorderly conduct. I also like how they only posted a little bit of the video. What else would we have seen? You know they cut out the parts that made them look really bad.

03-27-2007, 08:14 PM

so simply holding a poster with the word f*ck is disorderly conduct?

03-27-2007, 09:24 PM

F.S.S 877.03
Whoever commits such acts as are of a nature to corrupt the public MORALS, or OUTRAGE the sense of PUBLIC DECENCY.........

I will stop there and spare you the remainder of the statute, but I think that poster with the F-Bomb covers the captitilized words. I certainly would have a problem with my 6 year old, who tries to read every word traveling down U.S. 19, see something of this nature and try to read it. Like BC said, I don't have a problem with the posters or your feelings toward President Bush, but keep the F-Bomb out. I believe LA and BC did an outstanding job and if the protestors want to play the video tape game, then great we'll take the kid and the sign and beat feet. You can say they should have taken Mom and the punk shooting the video, but not worth a small riot and getting your balls in a bunch explaining the use of force on several people to the third floor.

03-28-2007, 01:48 AM

You know what I say good job Pinellas County Sheriff's Office! You guys and gals are 100% correct in your actions. Again thank you and you guys and gals should get more after you guys and gals retire from Law Enforcement (Having to put up with all the nonsense of the citizens of Pinellas County.)

03-29-2007, 08:52 PM

You guys aren't very good at that whole investigating thing, are you?
The actual charge was breach of peace.... and the charges were dropped within a matter of weeks.

03-29-2007, 09:14 PM

you can beat the charge...but you can't beat the ride.

"copwatchpinellas" is that the fat azz atny that represents every scum bag that wants to sue the s.o?

03-30-2007, 07:06 PM

03-30-2007, 07:45 PM

Apparently you didn't see my post, nor do you have a clue. F.S.S. 877.03 is titled Breach of Peace/Disorderly Conduct.

03-30-2007, 09:09 PM

LOL...that's funny that you are worried that your 6 year old might read the word f*ck as you are driving down the road at 55mph. If I was you, I'd worry about the fact that your six year old knows what the word means! And don't let your child get near a bible where you'll find the following passages in the King James version:

Leviticus 19:29
Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be a whore;

Job 3:12
Why did the knees prevent me? or why the breasts that I should suck?

Judges 5:10
Speak, ye that ride on white asses, ye that sit in judgment, and walk by the way.

Deuteronomy 26:6
And the Egyptians evil entreated us, and afflicted us, and laid upon us hard bondage:

My point to this post is that although you may have not agreed with what the protestors wrote on their signs, where do we draw the line on censorship? If the line is simply where one might be offended, well then re-read the above examples and see if you think they might offend someone and if so should we have everyone who passes out or sells a bible arrested? Last time I checked any child could go to a church or library and obtain a copy of the King James Version from which the above passages are from and therefore be exposed to such offensive material should they not agree with it.

03-30-2007, 09:39 PM

did you just quote the bible trying to show its offensive language?

Wow. Just Wow.

03-31-2007, 01:07 PM

Last I checked the constitution protected political speech. Even speech you don't agree with. That's probably why the charges were dropped.
You guys have to take an IQ test for the job? Maybe a class in constitutional law? There was a case awhile back in north FL where a guy was arrested for much the same thing. He got about $25,000 out of the arresting agency.

03-31-2007, 01:47 PM

Leviticus 19:29
Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be a whore;

Job 3:12
Why did the knees prevent me? or why the breasts that I should suck?

Judges 5:10
Speak, ye that ride on white asses, ye that sit in judgment, and walk by the way.

Deuteronomy 26:6
And the Egyptians evil entreated us, and afflicted us, and laid upon us hard .:

I don't know where to start. So, I'll keep this short and sweet.

God's word that you quoted wasn't 'swear' words at the time. Telling someone NOT to prostititue, is a good thing, a positive. And when my kids are old enough they will be know what that is.

Breast? This doesn't even deserve my time. That is anatomically correct.

Asses? Donkey and not a swear word at the time. Not even close to the f word.

As for Deu. 26:6, not sure if you are a scholar in Hebrew, but I think that phrase refers to harsh work, punishment.

Point is, that was a joke to compare the Bible to someone holding a big poster on the side of the road with a big F word on it.

And YES, a 6 year old notices those things. Then you hear from the back seat, "Mom, what is F*CK BUSH mean?"

And then I have to get into a speech about how some people are so disrespectful to our leader and to other citizens to put a nasty, filthy word in public view.

There IS a line. You can't sit on the side of the road and say you will kill the pres., and saying F him, is pretty close. This is the president of the United States and people forget that.

NEVER IN MY LIFE, have I seen people (libs) SOOOO outwardly rude and disrespectful to a man in office.

Clinton was a whore dog and the conservatives still were respectful to the POSITION, not the person.

03-31-2007, 01:59 PM

Your full of shit reader. Go back to your own unconstitutional wedsite. Im sure your definition of freedom of speech would be anything and everything posted on a sign to insult and corrupt the standards of others. You make reference to some case, Im sure it is not similar in anyway or it does not exsist. Please dont try and give me a lesson on constitutional law. I will assure you, If you stand out om U.S. 19 with the F bomb written on a poster you will go for a ride. Give it a try my friend.

03-31-2007, 02:33 PM

should've hooked her too

04-01-2007, 11:32 AM

When I posted the passages and you commented on them, you thankfully did exactly what I wanted to show...that although words are written with one meaning, it's in the eye of the beholder to determine what that meaning is. Just because the sign said F*ck Bush, I'm sure the sign holder didn't want to have sex with him...he was saying "screw bush" as in I don't like him. So, if he had put "screw bush" on the sign, I'm sure he would not have been arrested. My point was that just as you pointed out with my bible passages, a word doesn't always have one meaning.

04-01-2007, 07:37 PM

I don't care WHAT meaning you have for the "F word". So you proved my point.

It's nasty and I don't want to see it. The public doesn't have to be subject to obscene language. If I want to see or hear the F word, I'll watch an R movie. But we don't do that, either. We don't talk like that or allow or kids to be around it if at all possible.

There are only a few words in this catagory. And I honestly don't think if the sign said 'Screw Bush' the outcome would've been the same.

04-01-2007, 09:02 PM

Whoa there, cupcake. Take a deep breath and try to apply some kind of anger management technique.
Political speech is, by definition, protected speech. We have to protect that right for everyone (even if we don't like them) or we protect it for no one. Let's face it - an arrest for Disorderly Conduct is usually just another way of saying " You've pissed me off and now you're going to jail". And believe it or not, we really shouldn't arrest people just because they anger us (I've seen a lot of that happen over the last 25 years but it doesn't make it right).
The social control of the little moron with the sign should have begun with the mother saying "you're going to put WHAT on a sign?!?!"... after which the a$$ whoopin' should have commenced.
Speaking of trying things, try that reading thing. You're head will probably only hurt for the first five minutes or so. And it might improve your English and writing. Couldn't hurt.

04-02-2007, 11:05 PM

Nice try on the back peddling moron. :roll:

When I posted the passages and you commented on them, you thankfully did exactly what I wanted to show...that although words are written with one meaning, it's in the eye of the beholder to determine what that meaning is. Just because the sign said F*ck Bush, I'm sure the sign holder didn't want to have sex with him...he was saying "screw bush" as in I don't like him. So, if he had put "screw bush" on the sign, I'm sure he would not have been arrested. My point was that just as you pointed out with my bible passages, a word doesn't always have one meaning.

04-03-2007, 01:33 AM

Concerned 1-You really don't know what you are doing, do you? You need a quick refresher on what is and what isn't DO Conduct. I think you are either the former "Glimmerman" or not a LEO at all. To suggest the SAO and SO "sold out" to some half-baked nuts---Why? That they made some agreement after the arrest---Why? Because you don't understand or can't comprehend, you just make up "stuff."

Those words to a LEO=protected speech. Those words on a sign about the President=protected speech. Same words about you=still protected speech.

Is Mama an idiot and guiding her little Elroy towards a troubled life? Probably, but, still protected speech. Do we disagree with what the message is/was-Yeah, most of us, but, STILL protected speech, even if WE don't agree. Wow, America-Freedom of Speech-what a country, what a concept.

04-06-2007, 08:55 PM

WHICH BRINGS US RIGHT BACK TO WHOMEVER SAID THAT EVERYONE IS FIGHTING LIKE A BUNCH OF 8TH GRADERS. ALSO, I ENJOY WATCHING "QUESTS" COME ON HERE AND TALK A WHOLE LOT OF SHI* BUT DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH BAL*S TO POST A NAME.....FUNNY ISN'T IT? THEY WERE CORRECT IN WHAT THEY DID, GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON. I BELIEVE THERE ARE MORE THINGS IN LIFE TO WORRY ABOUT THAN RANTING AND RAVING ABOUT THE CHARGE, STATUTE ECT. WHO CARES? THE JUVIE GOT HOOKED, MOM SHOULD HAVE AS WELL FOR HER OUTBURST. STATUE ALL COVERS D/C & BREECH OF PEACE, MOVE ON! :!:

04-07-2007, 12:12 AM

Lets see Protected Speech. Very broad thing. Would protected speech be if I sat out in front of Ohhh! lets say the guests' house with a big sign on it that said guest go( F--k yourself and your family )would that be my so called freedom of speech. I gaurantee you that the guest would be on the phone so fast with the police it would make your head spin. Oh if the guest would like to identify him or herself Ill find your house and sit out in front of it with oh lets say a bunch of signs degrading your family and you have to promise not to call the police, because im only excersing my first amendment right. To the guest, your full of shit and please leave my country.

04-07-2007, 03:03 PM

Oh jeez, for the last time....political speech is protected - not libel. Look up the difference

04-07-2007, 03:24 PM

:!: REMIND ME TO BRING A MEASURING CUP FOR THE PIS*ING CONTEST NEXT TIME

04-08-2007, 05:39 PM

Oh I thought it meant F--- a Bu--.....sorry reader you shit head

04-08-2007, 06:17 PM

G-dog, if you were a LEO, you'd know the answer is yes. As long as you aren't trespassing (perhaps even you understand what that means), you can picket anyone's house with signs. Protected speech! :roll:

04-09-2007, 02:41 AM

Tell me where your house is so I can Picket it.

04-09-2007, 06:03 PM

The only reason the charges were dropped is because th SAO and the S.O sold out to the ST. Pete for Peace Anti-War movement. It was an agreement made after the arrest and very typical of the shady deals to try and keep something from going to trial. Its tough being a cop in this coumty if you do your job right you might go to jail,

How true that is!!! The bad guys usually out before our paper work is done and half the time charges are dropped. If we screw up we usually end up fired, sued or arrested for doing our job, heaven help us for arresting the bad guy/girl and hurting anyones fellings or violating their rights. What about the victim's rights? what about the law abiding citizens rights?

AlwaysRIGHT

04-17-2007, 05:51 AM

I watched the video closely. One of the Deputies explained to the "protesters" that you can reword the message on the sign as long as it doesn't have any profanities on it. Good call. Personally, I think Bush is a leftist and the war in Iraq is illegal.

These retarded protesters were supposedly against Bush, but their effort just turned into a pro-xxx-rated language exhibit. Now, I'll bet a million bucks the accused will claim a First Amendment protection. Laws that prohibit indecencies such as the one committed by the protesters, have been in place for centuries. The men who framed the First Amendment would have concurred with the actions taken by the Deputies.

AlwaysRIGHT

04-17-2007, 05:57 AM

If the signs they had said something like, "F--- Hillary Clinton" or just a simple "F--- You!" the deputies probably would have reacted the same way.

taserm18

05-09-2007, 05:26 AM

You guys aren't very good at that whole investigating thing, are you?
The actual charge was breach of peace.... and the charges were dropped within a matter of weeks.

Dude breach of peace and disorderly conduct are the same statute.
877.03 Breach of the peace; disorderly conduct.

05-09-2007, 10:13 AM

question why didnt they arrest the mother for failing to obey an order. They told her and the rest of the people to stay back many times and she continued to follow them.

05-09-2007, 01:55 PM

Please provide statute for failing to obey and order. And not the one under 316. That relates to traffic control.

05-10-2007, 01:09 AM

The 2006 Florida Statutes

Title XLVI
CRIMES Chapter 843
OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE View Entire Chapter

843.02 Resisting officer without violence to his or her person.--Whoever shall resist, obstruct, or oppose any officer as defined in s. 943.10(1), (2), (3), (6), (7), (8), or (9); member of the Parole Commission or any administrative aide or supervisor employed by the commission; county probation officer; parole and probation supervisor; personnel or representative of the Department of Law Enforcement; or other person legally authorized to execute process in the execution of legal process or in the lawful execution of any legal duty, without offering or doing violence to the person of the officer, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

Doesn't mean the SAO will file but it takes care of the problem for the time being.

07-02-2007, 01:51 AM

The funniest thing about that video is all that I could see was a fat azz mother with a foul mouth who encouraged her minor son to act the same. Hell, they probably walked out of good ole Frontier Village to hold their "protest". She is trash and raising trash and hasn't taught her son anything of value.

07-03-2007, 11:39 AM

Is nobody else at all concerned about the fact that the deputies turned their backs on a potentially hostile group of people, not looking back to "check their six" the entire time they escorted that kid to the car. And what happened to "contact & cover"? One cop talks, one watches. Aren't these STAR guys supposed to be better at this type of thing than the rest of us? That was one of the most unsafe encounters I've seen.