Guest wrote:There sure is a lot of false information here. 1) Dep. Saunders responded to a call of an aggravated assault. At the call there were two witnesses and a complainant. All three people completed written statements and signed an oath form. Dep. Saunders completed a report and direct filed charges on Mcrae. Mcrae was not present at the time the report was made, so she was never interviewed. Dep. Saunders then forwarded the report and cra to the SAO for review. The SAO reviewed the case for 5 months then issued a warrant. Mcrae was later arrested under that warrant. Dep. Saunders was not even there when she was arrested. I know this information because I have seen the report and spoken to Dep. Saunders about this. Dep. Saunders did not forge anything and whoever is claiming he did is guilty of libel. It’s clearly obvious when you look at the handwriting in the report. 2) I have known Dep. Saunders since he has worked with HCSO and have been on the same squad as him. He writes good reports and is thorough. That is probably the reason why he had all the witnesses and complainants write a written statement. 3) Yes, Dep. Saunders was charged with official misconduct back in 2002. All charges were later dropped. His agency who he worked for at the time did an IA investigation which resulted in clearing Dep. Saunders. FDLE also did an investigation since Dep. Saunders was charged, as they are required to do, and found that there was no probable cause to punish Dep. Saunders.
People should take the time and get accurate information before posting crap about a law enforcement officer in a public forum. It’s obvious either Mcrae or a friend of hers is posting false information on Deputy Saunders.
Most of your statements are fact, however some are a bit off. Please link to any news article or official records that all charges were dropped against deputy saunders back in 2002.
I'll help you out, this is the link to the monroe county state attorney's office. it contains the official disposition of the case. where mr. saunders plead out to his charges of official misconduct.
I looked at your link and he did not plea out as you said. He entered a PTI program and once he completed the program the SAO sent a letter to the court that indicated he had completed the program and the charges were never brought before the court.........thus dropped. As the charges never moved forward and thus he has never been convicted of the charge.
if you can't be 100% truthful/honest, you are in the wrong profession
Come on Joe, do you think everybody on here is stupid?
Pre-Trial Intervention is usually offered as part of a PLEA DEAL. The defendant enters a PLEA of no lo contendere(From the latin term I do not wish to contest) and the state agrees that upon completion of sanctions set forth in the pre trial intervention agreement they will withhold adjudication thus preventing the defendant from having a conviction on their record.
I think you'll agree that the above described scenario is much different than the State attorney dropping the charges or no filing the case against the defendant for lack of evidence...ect.
I don't even know Deputy Saunders or Deputy G. Harris who was also arrested in this case, but the facts are undeniable. Do a little research.
Fact checker wrote:Come on Joe, do you think everybody on here is stupid?
Pre-Trial Intervention is usually offered as part of a PLEA DEAL. The defendant enters a PLEA of no lo contendere(From the latin term I do not wish to contest) and the state agrees that upon completion of sanctions set forth in the pre trial intervention agreement they will withhold adjudication thus preventing the defendant from having a conviction on their record.
I think you'll agree that the above described scenario is much different than the State attorney dropping the charges or no filing the case against the defendant for lack of evidence...ect.
I don't even know Deputy Saunders or Deputy G. Harris who was also arrested in this case, but the facts are undeniable. Do a little research.
Not true. Please refer back to your own link and tell me the date a plea was entered other than "not guilty".
It is called Pre-trial intervention because you never get to a trial and thus a plea is not excepted. Once again, look at your docket and you will see that the case was removed from the court docket. Then I see where he completed his PTI and the case was "Nolle Processed". The reason there is no plea is because once you enter PTI and you mess up how could the State refile the charge? What do they file, Violation of PTI or the original charge? It is the original charge. That is why the State allows the original charge to remain open but removed from the docket. Even once you complete PTI and mess up during a certain period of time the old PTI charge can be refiled by the State because the charge remained open. This would not be so if a plea was entered and excepted by the court as it creates double jeopardy.
Prior to PTI Hillsborough Courts had what was called an "Absentee Docket". Once the info was filed by the State, the State could request the case be moved to the Absentee Docket because the defendant complete some type of program the State wanted or for what ever reason.
if you can't be 100% truthful/honest, you are in the wrong profession
Just had to chime in on this. Why would you accept any sort of sanctions PTI or whatever if you are not guilty? I know I would want my name cleared without a doubt. That's just my .02
eeI guess Kristin said she would take a plea bargain when he!! froze over or George Bush was elected back in the White House. Whatever came sooner. Its the credit card receipts that did it for me. Saunders had a ton of evidence agianst him according to the news articles I pulled up. Why in the he!! would he sign an application in the year 2011 after he was arrested for forgery?
Peter Bernard also sent emails that he did that report for Channel 8 based upon the forged petition. So the state attorney did an investigation for 5 months and no one called Kristin Mcrae on this one? Bueller?
I also heard that one of the witnesses said under oath that he didn't know the complaintant and the complaintant said that she gave him a buttload of money to do work for her. Then, Saunders apparently said under oath that he had never been disciplined before by any employer. I got a copy of the depositions. Every person did change their story and the complaintant now describes a whole bunch of police cars being on the street that day and reports are out that no police cars were on the street that day. She then told her husband this happened on the 22nd and that is what the 911 call says, not the 21st of October. regardless, Mcrae allegedly has credit card receipts for both days that she was in the store at the exact same time.
Can somebody answer this. WHY or WHAT MOTIVE would Sanders have to forge documents or perjur himself in order to get a conviction against this Kristin McRae?? With the unbelievable case load that the District 2 Detectives have, or at least used to have, why in the heck would Saunders waste the time in order to go after McRae?? I just don't get it and don't believe one bit that Saunders trumped up any charges. by just watching the short video of McRae taking pictures of her neighbors and calling 911 anytime kids are playing outside, you can easily see that McRae has some screws loose!
I saw the video years back and Peter Bernard has changed the video from when it was aired. Secondly, no one knows why Saunders did it. The neighbor is a homeland security officer and Saunders was promoted to detective right after this case. Most likely for a job well done. I guess Saunders has a special set of skills that Hillsborough County wanted to hire him for. By the way, Mcrae never called on this neighbor every time she put her kids in the road, that is another lie. The neighbor was out of control and would damage Mcrae's property, is on videotape egging her home, drawing all kinds of sh*t on her driveway with chalk like a two year old, lying to the state attorney, AND, forging a three page petition on YMCA letterhead. The neighbor also accused another woman of kidnapping her child and Saunders handled that report and knew she was a liar. Whatever his motive, you can look at the oath form and see that signatures don't match. the neighbor to get filled out and the neighbor ultimately forged the papers and turned them back into Saunders. Just like they forged a petition. That was my understanding of what happened.
The VA police were investigating this at one point as a battery case from my knowledge. When she went to the ER, she had bruises everywhere and looked really bad. Saunders probably did fudge some things because he lied in depositions after reading the reports. I have to also say that you don't look good in my opinion calling people names on the internet, especially a person I have only known as kind and extremely caring. Saunders was suspended from his own agency and arrested because he lied in hs paperwork and covered things up for another cop. In depos, he stated he was never disciplined. Why would he lie? You tell me Saunders. Stop calling names and man up and tell us. The reason he signed his application in the year 2011 is probably because he also lied on that as well.
You really can't dispute the facts. I guess it was a conspiracy that the Monroe County State Attorney tracked Saunders down because he fled the County when he knew he would be charged. Tell that to the Navy Sailor who had his a$$ whipped by Saunders buddy and then had paperwork forged against him by Saunders. I guess when the sailor, who was beaten up, complained about Saunders, everyone told him it was a conspiracy as well until one of Saunders own coworkers told the truth and Saunders was finally tracked down and charged. Or it isn't a conspiracy that Saunders supervisor was also arrested by the Feds for being a cocaine smuggler. Or it isn't a conspiracy when Saunders signed his application in the year 2011. No one forced him to take the pen and forge that date when he left Key West under a black cloud of problems when he applied at the State of Florida Fire Marshall's Office. Or maybe is still wasn't a conspiracy when Saunders lied under oath and said he was never before disciplined in any way at his previous jobs. Just why did Mcrae have a lengthy arrest history forged against her? Why was paperwork turned in that she had been arrested multiple times in Florida whan she had not? I guess it still isn't a conspiracy when Mcrae has Credit Card records that she wasn't there that day? I guess it also isn't a conspiracy that this woman forged a three page petition against Mcrae that is being used by the state attorney as official evidence? Read the depos and you will be amazed at what has gone on versus what Saunders reported and turned in on his report. You got a wolf in sheep's clothing Gee and I overheard a well known retired Tampa detective say that Saunders gives good cops a bad name. The same well known detective was overheard calling Mcrae on the telephone, apologizing to her for what happened, and telling her that Saunders will one day have to answer for the crimes he has taken part in. You all should be ashamed and if you think this went unnoticed by the public, you are wrong. Neighborhood board members on associations sent letters in saying they want to testify on her behalf. You can gloss it over and say that he took Pre Trial Intervention but they had an entire group of citizens come forward to the SAO and every story matched about Saunders involvement and they also had sworn cops testify against Saunders. And Gee, you hired him knowing about his past and the past of his co-conspirator in that case and gave them badges and now history has repeated itself.
