Guest wrote:I handled a burglary once where two guys were seen climbing through a window. I could see one guy coming toward the front door and when he popped outside, I ordered him to put his hands on his head and turn around. He complied and I patted him for weapons and found none. The whole time, he said he lived there. He had no ID, but I found a social security card and who would have guessed, a student ID from a local college. Funny thing is they don't put your home address on either, so I had no way to verify his residency. Oh ya, he had a cell phone, but he didn't have a high up job that made him feel like he could ignore the commands and just call demanding a chief of police to thwart my investigation. Well, I detained him and when my backup arrived, we checked the house and found the second guy in it with two firearms. The yoyo I met outside left his with his friend. The investigation revealed that neither lived in the house and they were there to burglarize it. Did I mention that the gentlemen were black and because of which, I must have been a racist for protecting the property of... Oh wait, the homeowner was black too. darn, what the hell does that make me??? I guess a survivor because the guy inside was aiming at the wrong corner of the room when I came up behind him and spared his miserable life.
Call me cracker, call me racist I don't care. Crowley did screw up for not detaining the professor sooner until it was positively verified that the house was not burglarized. Under the Carroll doctrine, he would have had more than enough reason. There is only one acceptable way to respond to a call like this and a loud racist black man yelling because the responding officer is white, or an "Uncle Tom" black man does not alter that proper techniques we should use. That hang up is on him and only him. He can sue me later, but I will face the man in the mirror knowing I was the righteous one.
Guest wrote:Well just goes to show that a 30 yr. Hill Street Blues watching cop wanna be is just as smart as Crowley when it comes to not knowing what the hell he is talking about.
Like the other poster said the Carol doctrine? You have no more idea what the h+ll Carol is about then Crowley does. Oh, the 30 yr anniversary of that decision is next year by the way.
You should have had that in you academy class 30 yrs ago officer. Should have really stuck in your mind. Of course one would have to have attended an academy in the first place. Oh and you are a racist, low brow knuckle dragging caveman.
Shut Up! Go back to the 50s where there really was racism so you have something real to complain about.
The bottom line is, the next time Mr. Gates comes in contact with the police, for whatever reason, I bet he has a different attitude. But if not, he'll end up arrested AGAIN. We'll see if this "Professor" has learned anything from this? Im betting no and the next time, President Obama can bail him out. So cry if you must, but he opened his racist mouth and got it shut for him
If he is treated the same way he was this time the charges wil be unfounded again and they will be dropped again.
It won't be Crowley that is for sure. Seems he can't stand the heat in the kitchen and asked to be moved to another district and shift. And Move Along, you are just as assinine funny as Police Squads Lt. Frank Drebbin. In one of the best scenes from that movie, Drebbin is telling the crowd on the street to "Move Along" nothing to see here! Move Along. All the while behind him a fireworks factory is blowing up with rockets firing all over the area. Like Drebbin you area either stupid as they come or your just want to ignore the truth and act like there is nothing going on. My bet is it is both.
Speaking of getting out of trouble. When was the last time you relied on one of your squad buddies to get your rear out of a ringer loud mouth. I am guessing it is on a weekly bases.
To the above guest, what point are you trying to make ??? You seem to poke at the Sgt, then you poke at "move along" but you dont make a valid point in reference to this topic. You point out what you think is everybody else's views, but its obvious YOU are the type of person who cowers behind the crowds and voices your opinion to whatever group you may be standing with at the time. I agree with "move along", If Mr. Gates keeps his racist views and opinions, he can expect the same outcome next time. He believed he didnt have to follow simple ORDERS so he got what he deserved. There isnt a day go by that I dont get called a racist by some crack dealing thug or my black co-workers get called uncle tom's when we pull over a vehicle with a black driver or arrest some crack dealer. In Florida we have window tint meters and are allowed to stop vehicles based on the suspicision of the tint level being too dark ( we must IMMEDIATELY place the meter on the window and if the tint is of legal limit, we must IMMEIDATELY allow them to leave) however I cant count on both hands and feet the number of times I stop a car and the driver is black and I get called a racist. The window tint level is usually around 1-2% ( darker than what is considered limo tint) and im called a racist. When I remind the genius that I had no way of knowing who is driving the vehicle because the tint was so dark, I usually get the typical "you know what kind of cars WE drive" . I didnt classify anybody as a "we" the racist black driver did. So as the above posts states, cry if you must, when you act like a racist hoodrat thug, you will be treted as one. You know what I be sayin dog, just roll down da screet and be down fo yo crime. Maybe Mr Gates should devote his time to helping them learn how to speak PROPER english instead of spending his time promoting racism.
No I am the kind of "LEO" that has to listen to you "white is right" supposed brother cops b+tch about how the minorities (and female officers) on the department get better treatment then you. Whether it's moving up in rank, shift, squad or special detail assignments, you are the one who rants about how you get the short end of the stick. Of course this is never done when a minority officer is around. I have been doing the job for 25 years jr. and I have seen and heard all before so give it arrest. (On the west coast of Florida so don't try and make it a regional thing either.) Here is a little something to mull over. The out right "I don't give a crap that I'm a racist" are better and easy to deal with. It is your type who deny and try to fool themselves that they are racist, that I find the must loathsom. Words like homie, lowrider, and such pour out of your type on a daily bases In plain simple words, there is nothing worse then a racist who doesn't know that they are one.
Last before you get any idea that I am a minority officer, forget that one. Irish heritage here pal.
Do yourself a big,big favor when your next forty hour refresher course comes up. Think about taking community relations as your class.
You seem to have a serious beef with some race but which one? I make no complaints about a white/black/or female being promoted. I get called a racist and just smile when i tell them to press hard, sign here ... Fact - Mr Gates was arrested for being a dumbass and if he hasnt learned anything from the expierence, he prob will be again someday. Fact - your whinning is comical because you cant stand it. this website seems to irratate so why do you keep coming here ? ah yes, because you want to inflict your personal racial views and opinions on the rest of the world. Nobody Cares ! He got arrested, get over it
You seem to believe that you know alot about the incident.
First what is the S.S for being a dunb@ss, and when was it made a crime in that state?
Do you know what his court date is? Wait skip that one, there is no court date. THE CHARGES WERE DROPPED! You kind of keep glazing over that one.
One other thing, how many African-American officers work here at the North Port Police Depaprtment?? (That is the forum your posting on) We have over a hundred sworn officers on our department at this time. Since you don't work here you may not know that one. But give it a shot anyway.
Let me help the North Port Police here (if that's the NP in southwest Florida). These headline postings are on all sites, not just yours. No one was picking on you, after all they haven't driven through one of your speed traps yet. Sincerely Friend from Rotonda.
Getting tired of the double standards. If you are black and you call a white C@#$%er, you should be punished the same way a white would for calling a black a N@#$%er. It is not that way, blacks use that racial slur like its going outta style and when a white uses a racial slur, you would think they were Hitler incarnate. Gates is a joke, Obama is a joke, affirmative action is a joke, Sharpton is a joke and the worst joke of all is "equal rights".
The definition of "equal rights" from Wiktionary: The concept that every person is to be treated equally by the law.
Is that true with the United Negro College Fund? Can a white guy get a scholarship through that fund?
Everyone has either had it happen to them or know someone it has happened too, "Sorry we couldn't hire you, we need to fill our quota of black employees". I am not talking about your local grocery store, I am talking about your fire department, police department and other local government. The law gets violated every day and no one does anything about it.
When blacks were given their rights after fighting so hard, they got them and it was well deserved. The only problem is that after that happened, over time white rights began slipping away more and more. Well, it is time to stand up and fight for our rights back. When you are denied a job because of your skin being white, fight. Sue the racist employer until they are broke. When your white son or daughter gets raped and or beaten by a black person, ensure that it is charged as a hate crime. Write letters to the state attorney until it is charged accordingly.
Lets openly fight for the advancement of the white race just like the blacks do for their race. We deserve it, we are equal to them, they are not better than us.
Don't listen to these Monday morning quarter backers Crowley, you did a good job. It is unfortunate that our racist pig president and his buddy gates blew this incident up more than it ever had to be. Stay safe out there and do not sacrifice safety due to this racist propaganda BS.
The previous message was brought to you by "The Arian Brotherhood of Hitler." Thanks Dolph.
It has never hit you once to think that there might be another reason why you don't make the cut? How about doesn't work well with others for starters. Or the most obvious of all, mentaly unable to preform the job.
I have seen this over and and over again.
You love to preach personal responcibility to others in what want and get. You however do not apply that to your own life. You find it easier and less demanding on yourself to blame someone or something else for your failure to reach your goals. (People, government, business, etc)
Never, ever think of really trying to advance yourself. That would mean you would really have to be responcible for what the results turned out to be. What you are is what you will be unless you better yourself for real. There is a line from the movie "Caddy Shack" that well applies to you: "The world needs ditch diggers to."
So unless you want to be digging a hole the rest of your life get off your @ss and better yourself for real. If not, then shut the h*ll up and keep digging our personal outhouse hole. If you don't shut up, you are never going to get that hole dug. All you are do is filling that hole in with the cr@p that keeps come out of your mouth.
Isn't it sad how so many people are willing to play Monday morning quarterback. If you recall, there were people that thought that Rodney King had done nothing wrong too. It might help if people saw the whole incident before passing judgement. After being in this profession for many years I can honestly say that the officers I am affiliated with would have treated Mr. Gates the same whether he was black, white, hispanic or oriental. His attitude, behavior, and lack of willingness to cooperate is what determined the outcome. Kudos to the officer for doing his job. Also to Sgt. Crowley thank you for potentially putting your life and well-being on the line every day that you go on duty. People are very quick to judge and criticize and make statements regarding our morals and ethics when law enforcement does something that isn't popular, yet when we save a child from a predator we are heros (no questions asked). Most of these critical people would never be willing to put on the gun and badge and go out to protect complete strangers in the first place!