How did it get this bad?

[I Agree]

Most of us are men and can relate to sports. If PCPD was a football team we would have no fans because they would demand a new owner, new GM and some serious trades. Just think about it guys and gals.

[PCPD]

OK GUYS AND GALS, THIS IS COMING FROM A ROOKIE TOO. REFERENCE TO THE LAST TWO STATEMENTS. I AGREE, BUT TO AN EXTENT. MOST OF THE OLD TIMERS I BELIEVE TRIED, ATTEMPTED, PUT ON THERE GAME FACE WHEN THEY TRIED TO MAKE CHANGES WITHIN. BUT, LOOK AT WHAT THEY HAD TO WORK WITH..... I BELIEVE THAT BACK THEN THE UPPER HEADS WERE VERY ONE TRACK MINDED. NOW WHEN YOU HAVE A CITY MGR. (S) TELLING THE CHIEF, THIS IS HOW ITS GONNA BE THEN IT ALL ROLLS DOWN HILL. AFTER HEARING THAT SO MANY TIMES, THEN THE OFFICERS GROW ACUSTOM TO GETTING SHOT DOWN ON THOSE ISSUES...WHY WASTE TIME AND ENERGY FIGHTINIG IS THE ATTITUDE OF THE OLD TIMERS. NOW WE HAVE A YOUNG GENERATION OF NEW COPS WITH A FRESH ATTITUDE READY FOR A FIGHT TO MAKE THINGS BETTER AT PCPD. FROM WHAT WE STARTED ALREADY THE UPPER HEADS ARE STARTING TO SEE THE NEED FOR CHANGE. WHY? BECAUSE THERE IS BAD RETENTION, THE CITY IS GROWING "NEED MORE OFFICERS" AND THERE IS OTHER PLACES OF OPPORTUNITY OUT THERE.

JUST LIKE WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO SOLVE A CASE AND YOU HAVE THAT PHYSICAL EVIDENCE, NO ONE CAN ARGUE WITH YOU. I BELIEVE THE UPPER HEADS SEE THAT THE PYSICAL EVIDENCE OF WHAT THEY WERE DOING THEN WAS NOT WORKING AND THEY NEED SOME NEW CHANGES AS WE MOVE INTO THE FUTURE. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT DEPARTMENT AND CAN BE THE BEST KEPT SECRET. ALSO KEEP IN MIND THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CHANGES, TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BETTER. HOWEVER, I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHAT WE WANT MORE OF...$$$$$. GOING TO A UNION WOULD BE GREAT, SO WE CAN STOP THESE VICIOUS CYCLES OF NOT SEEING THE THINGS WE WANT MORE OF. BECAUSE IT'S JUST A MATER OF TIME BEFORE THIS NEW GENERATION WILL GET BURNT OUT OF FIGHTING.

[Guest]

Take this from someone who's been here longer than just last week...yes, SOME rookies in this department do tend to be more proactive than the majority of the veteran officers...but unfortunately those of you with so little experience lack insigt, articulation and overall job expertice. This not only affects the quality of service provided to the citizens of PC, but increases civil and criminal liability on the part of the rookie officers. Lucky for those of you serving since yesterday, there are veteran officers, sergeants and SOME lts that do possess job knowledge and expertice that can and often does keep rookies from committing career homicide.

[Guest]

THE PCPD IS SO SAD UNTIL IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DO ANYTING IT DOES.. SADLY TO D=SAY THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT NEED TO TAKE OVER. PCPD NEED TO SHAPE UP. HARASSING CITIZENS IN AN UNETHICAL MANNER IS TOTALLY AWLFUL. PLEASE GIVE ME A MOMENT WITH THE CHIEF AND I DO BELIVE, I CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. SAM COOPER IS DEAD AND THE DEPARTMENT WENT WILD.

[pcpd]

are u an idiot or just play one on t.v.

[pcp2]

THE PCPD IS SO SAD UNTIL IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DO ANYTING IT DOES.. SADLY TO D=SAY THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT NEED TO TAKE OVER. PCPD NEED TO SHAPE UP. HARASSING CITIZENS IN AN UNETHICAL MANNER IS TOTALLY AWLFUL. PLEASE GIVE ME A MOMENT WITH THE CHIEF AND I DO BELIVE, I CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. SAM COOPER IS DEAD AND THE DEPARTMENT WENT WILD.

Please translate in english.

[BADGE]

FIRST, IF THE SHERIFF TOOK OVER YOU WOULD GET HORRIBLE SERVICE. THE SHERIFF WOULD NOT RESPOND TO HALF OF WHAT PLANT CITY RESPONDS TO. I USED TO WORK FOR PLANT CITY BUT LEFT OVER FIVE YEARS AGO TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. I WILL TELL YOU SIR THAT PLANT CITY RESPONDS TO MORE AND TOLERATES MORE B.S. THEN WE DO AT HCSO. THAT SIR IS A FACT. THE SHERIFF WILL NOT BE TAKING OVER PLANT CITY AS A MATTER OF FACT PLANT CITY IS TAKING MORE AREA FROM THE COUNTY EVERY YEAR EXTENDING IT'S BORDERS. AND IF THEY DID TAKE OVER IT WILL BE THE SAME OFFICERS JUST A DIFFERENT AGENCY.

[ol-fart]

The leo web site is a beautiful tool.Use it to look around at the other departments in Fla.See what is ailing everyone and try not to duplicate their mistakes. A union sounds so wonderful, it will fix everything!!FOP PBA or anything of the sort is only as strong as its members and the people who make up the union are around You already why not work together and come up with a workable solution to Your problems and take that to the table see what happens. But the main thing is work together as a unit,scattered as You guys sound You will easily be controlled and never get anything even as a union because of constant internal bickering...Lots of Luck...with the media and public attacking every move You make You will need it..