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02-16-2020, 10:09 PM #11UnregisteredGuest
Ah, another expert on police procedure.
Let me explain how this works. The police arrive at a three story building. There shots heard. Then, before the LEOs can enter the building, they stop. The LEOs have no idea what is going on. So, the protocol changes from active shooter to barricaded suspect/hostage situation. This requires that a perimeter be established to contain the shooter and protect the surrounding community. Then an entry team has to enter the building, and because they do not know where the shooter is, they have to clear each floor ans secure stairwells and elevators, so the shooter can not ambush them. This takes a significant amount of time and manpower. This continues on the second floor and the third, until it is determined that the shooter is gone, of until he is found and engaged by LE.
Now, this is why the timeline is important. Because it clearly shows that the a BSO handled the situation correctly when the last unit arrived and the shooting had stopped. The problem was that the shooter had already fled the scene.
What you want to do is to place the blame for what happened at MSDHS on the BSO. However, it was inadequate security by the BCSB which allowed Cruz to enter the campus, unhindered with a rifle. It was the failure of the part-time "security personnel", employed by the BCSB, to notify the office and the SRO, by radio which they all carried, when they saw Cruz, who the all knew was no longer a student there, was a known troublemaker and was carrying an obvious rifle case. But, no one seems to care about that. They also do not care bout school security because today, 2 tears after the MSDHS shooting, the security at Broward County Schools is exactly the same as that in place at MSDHS on the day of the shooting. And on one cares.
So can the BS. Your children are no safer today than they were two years ago. And, apparently you are alright with that. And, I do not wish to ban guns. In fact, I would like to see gun laws relaxed, as they are all unconstitutional anyway. However the only way to prevent a mass school shooting is to harden the schools. Make it impossible to enter the campus at other than one or two points. Have active screening measure in place there with one or more armed security agents to stop anyone who might try to force entry at the entry point. Whose responsibility is that? The BCSB, not the BSO. As you say, the buck stops here. And the BCSB, the media, special interests and the Florida Senate all passed the buck to the poor toad sheriff, Scott Israel. Everyone wanted a scapegoat so they would not have to accept responsibility or to spend money in the future to protect the students of Florida schools. And, Israel was the patsy.
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02-16-2020, 10:32 PM #12UnregisteredGuest
First of all, how did the BSO Fail to protect Parkland? The school, while situated in Parkland, is under the control of the BCSB, not the BSO. BCSB failed to secure the school against armed invasion and its personnel saw the shooter on campus and failed to notify anyone in authority, including the SRO. And, the SRO is NOT under the command of the Parkland district command staff.
What is with this "empathy" for thee victims BS? People died because a lunatic with gun walked onto an unsecured school campus and shot people. Terribly sorry, but LE deals with dead people every single day? Is the Sheriff expected to go to every wake and funeral in the county to show his "empathy"? Get real. That lack of empathy for the Parkland snowflakes line is getting really old. And, what the Parkland parents, the media and other special interests wanted was not feel good "empathy", but a scapegoat that they could blame Cruz's actions on. and they chose Israel.
If you want to blame someone for the fact that a lunatic with a gun waltzed onto a school campus and killed a bunch of people, then get rid of the school board and harden the schools so that this can not happen again. But, you do not care about that do you? The fact that the security in Broward County schools is exactly the same as it was at MSDHS on the day of the shooting two years ago is just fine with you. Who are you going to blame the next time it happens? So, just continue to blame Israel and you can sleep snug knowing that your children are safe. What a maroon.
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02-16-2020, 10:42 PM #13UnregisteredsorryGuest
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02-16-2020, 10:50 PM #14UnregisteredGuest
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02-17-2020, 12:46 AM #15UnregisteredGuest
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02-17-2020, 01:00 AM #16UnregisteredwhatGuest
What the F
Are you restarted?
Kinsey, Polan, Dale, Shultz, Israel and the rest worked in NY, LA, Detroit, Chicago. That’s right Di*k head. I’ve e trained with all of them. Funny how you idiots were never there. They may have lived in NY, but they sure didn’t learn how to respond to a critical incident the way we did.
Spare me the SWAT bullsh*t. Your an embarrassment. Tell you what. Next school shooting in Broward(hopefully never) make sure you radio to the patrol guys on scene, “ be advised, standby, until us badass Swat guys get there. Don’t worry about how many kids get shot, we’ll handle when we’re on scene.”
How many times do you put on your SWAT gear, and stare in the mirror with your beards and tattoos? You guys think this is all a show. Well, I guess you earned most embarrassing agency in America. And you can thank Scotty boy and his band of misfits.
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02-17-2020, 01:56 AM #17UnregisteredGuest
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02-17-2020, 03:54 AM #18UnregisteredGuest
I don’t read any of your posts because they’re too long. The last line gives you away as a licker of candied nuts. I sleep quite soundly knowing that the incompetent hairplug wearing weasel, will never work in law enforcement again! Please write another of your two page rebuttals covering the same points over and over kisser of the moron ‘s arse.
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02-17-2020, 04:06 AM #19UnregisteredGuest
All of them do. During an active shooter response, no agency has their personnel enter alone. And, personnel move to the shots. But, whether you like it or not, once the shooting stops, the situation is no longer an active shooter situation, but a barricaded suspect/hostage situation. And, if you were actually on the job with NYPD, then you know how that works; contain, locate and subdue. Now, in some cases, street cops will do the sweep and apprehension, rather than SWAT or SRT. Other times they wait for the specialized units. Now, where you have injured victims to move and treat, the street cops usually will do the building clearance. But, they still secure the perimeter to contain a homicidal maniac. Inn fact that is exactly what they did in Virginia Beach last may and they were heralded as heroes.
I worked with a lot of NYPD cops, when they came to Florida in the early 70's when they were being laid off because NVC was going broke. What I found was that most of them were really careful about sticking their necks out anymore than they had to to get the job done. That meant waiting for back-up and clearing a building as a unit.
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02-17-2020, 04:10 AM #20UnregisteredGuest
So, all you are left with is vulgar personal attacks. Do you print with a crayon as well? Grow up. If you want to rebut the accuracy of my points, please do. If all you want to do is project your own bizarre sexual practices on me, then please do us all a favor and drain your beer can and smash it against your head. I hope this is short enough for you to get through before your attention span runs out.
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