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04-01-2012, 05:30 PM #21
Re: Zimmerman is inocent
Originally Posted by NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH
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04-01-2012, 08:33 PM #22
Re: Zimmerman is inocent
Originally Posted by Miami area LEO
Also 748.08 requires "willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly" as a condition of stalking. Neither is evident.
748.001 also states "An “assault” is an intentional, unlawful threat by word or act to do violence to the person of another, coupled with an apparent ability to do so, and doing some act which creates a well-founded fear in such other person that such violence is imminent.".
Saying that following someone who you believe to be suspicious is assault is quite a stretch of the law and quite unlikely to lead to a conviction.
Buddy my point is that neither one of us knows the facts. But, up to the point of the physical confrontation no laws were broken by Zimmerman. Who hit who first and what happened after that point we just don't know. I've read the police reports and whiteness statements and I still am not convinced either way.
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04-02-2012, 01:47 AM #23
Re: Zimmerman is inocent
Well I see that everyone on this site is a legal expert.
Zimmerman did not break any laws prior to the shooting, and that act has yet to be determined if it was a violation of Florida law.
Let’s ask ourselves some questions,
Zimmerman was on the way to the store, sees activity that he feels is suspicious and feels compelled to call the Sanford police about. He reports this activity and maintains visual contact with the “suspect”. The suspect turns on him and beats him to death.
Was Martin justified? From what I have been reading several of the posters have this point of view.
How about Zimmerman and Martin are just walking in the same direction for a period of time when Martin feels threatened turns and attacks Zimmerman. Is Martin justified? From the arguments being presented there are several of you that would respond yes.
As every law enforcement officer know, every confrontation is an armed confrontation because you bring the firearm. When you are armed you cannot be disabled, that only arms the assailant with your firearm. There are numerous accounts documented by video where a law enforcement officers are incapacitated and then killed with his own firearm.
Where does the argument go when Zimmerman’s firearm is found to have Martin’s fingerprints on it?
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04-02-2012, 01:43 PM #24
Re: Zimmerman is inocent
The stalking statute also clearly states "no matter how short a time". The assault statute dictates that it be a credible threat. I can see how that would be interpreted as a credible threat by Trayvon, and since he can't speak now, I'd have to take that into account. Those are the parts of the statute that need to be read as well, not just the parts you printed.
843.08 may be allowed to fly based upon Zimmerman's actions in whole part. If it doesn't fly, let it be the SAO to drop it, but I'd write it on the a-form, just to be safe.
You say you've read the reports; if it's true, then you have that on me. But, based upon what I know, I would have made the arrest, and let the SAO dismiss it.
Had it been an OIS, I'd be siding with the officer. But because of Zimmerman's civilian status and lack of authority, I know that this entire thing could have been avoided if he had just stayed in his car.
I mentioned 493 simply to cover any bases in which he might have mentioned working in a security capacity; I was not intending to say he actually was.
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04-11-2012, 07:10 PM #25
Re: Zimmerman is inocent
It is illegal to solicit murder and kidnapping in this country and the state of Florida. Where is the DOJ, Eric (blood on my hands) Holder, and Pam Bondi in reference to the black panthers and their crap they are pulling? Nowhere! I've emailed FDLE, DOJ, and Pam Bondi and received no response!
The media isn't saying much about it either. Well, let the race war begin then. As of right now I don't leave the house without the Gen4, my "egg scrambler", and a knife or two. Since I'm white, there is a bounty on my head per the BP's, I guess I have to defend myself since nobody else is doing anything about it! Bring it you natives, you WONT win!
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04-13-2012, 03:18 PM #26
Re: Zimmerman is inocent
Originally Posted by Miami area LEO
Great comeback Miami LEO, you are correct on all accounts that you raise. I am a white guy who grew up with hispanics and it is an ethnicity not a race. Sanford P.D. is all but gone, and the goober debating you is outmatched.
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04-23-2012, 11:45 PM #27
Re: Zimmerman is inocent
Originally Posted by Miami area LEO
Ok, I was a lurker but am going to join in now. I was with you until your statement about how your culture turned a backwards town into a major metropolitan county. Sorry, but as a Florida native I resent that remark. I, too, am apparently around your age & I can remember Miami & the surrounding area as a once beautiful city. I remember my parents driving us around different parts of town & we didn't have to lock our car doors. English was spoken. Now before you even say that a person knowing more than one language is a positive thing....I agree, but not when it is forced upon you. And not for nothing, but my family & I are bilingual, but Spanish is not one of the languages.
Anyway, your previous post does show your bias in this case. Just the fact that you refer to George Zimmerman as "Zimmerman" & Trayvon Martin as "Trayvon". You may say that is no big deal, but it speaks volumes as far as how you feel about the case, in my opinion. Also, since "Zimmerman" is usually mentioned in the news as Hispanic, even though his father is not, not sure how his being Hispanic on his mother's side trumps his father's side as just being an American. Gotta love the media for that, too.
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04-26-2012, 02:01 AM #28
Re: Zimmerman is inocent
People who claim to be a miami area Leo and posting on here when the only evidence to comment on is what the press is reporting is either a wanna be cop or a very bad one if they really are in law enforcement.
Time to shut up and let the courts decide and stop spreading unverified information as factual. Your Miami area Leo opinions mean nothing and you are making our profession look bad by claiming to be legit.
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05-18-2012, 12:18 AM #29
Re: Zimmerman is inocent
new evidence released today, TRAYVON IS A DRUG ADICT CRIMINAL AND ZIMMERMAN IS A HERO
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05-21-2012, 02:36 PM #30
Re: Zimmerman is inocent
Miami area LEO ...................Where are now with all the new evidence that's been released? Pre-Law student at your local community college also doesn't qualify you as an, " Miami area LEO ".
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