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07-29-2009, 07:55 PM #11
Re: Sgt ******* and Cambridge Police Dept
I can see both sides but as a veteran officer, I would have walked away once it was determined this was the home owner. We all know not everyone likes us or thinks we are doing a great job. Gates is certainly setting a poor example for young people in particular. But unfortunately, since Obama took office I can't help but notice people of color sorta think they're in charge now. We only elected one Black man to run the country. For the rest of them, a little respect for our profession will do nicely.
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07-29-2009, 09:30 PM #12
Re: Sgt ******* and Cambridge Police Dept
Sgt. ******* is no different then the rest of us who has 15 someone or given someone a citation not because they did something wrong but because of their attitude
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07-29-2009, 09:52 PM #13
Re: Sgt ******* and Cambridge Police Dept
Originally Posted by hjack23
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07-29-2009, 11:44 PM #14
Re: Sgt ******* and Cambridge Police Dept
It's no secret that Sgt. ******* Arrested Gates because Gates pissed him off. Once Sgt. ******* determined that Gates lived at the residence that should have been the end. Sgt. ******* is no different then the rest of us who has 15 someone or given someone a citation not because they did something wrong but because of their attitude. Stop Praising him like he's a darn hero.
I agree with the above writer, but with one exception, that is, allowing the attitude from a citizen contact (IE., traffic stop), and not the reason for the stop, to determine the outcome of a stop. (providing there was no other laws broken, and notwithstanding discretion by the officer...).
And for the responders that say there is no such thing as a POP(Pissing off the Police) arrest charge (they are right, I've never seen it titled this way in statute) However,
they either have never worked a day as a street cop, or they are a damn liar (yes, I said it, LIAR!). Call it obstruction, resisting without, whatever you wish to. To say there is no historical basis for these sentiments, is horsepunky. So I'm calling BULL*@#@$ on this one.
My comments on the Gates issue. I'm glad the debate is out in the open for public consumption. Mr gates was tired, pissed, and wanted to get in his house. He (Gates), was wrong for calling the officer a racist. The officer was also doing his job based upon the limitations of his training. I for one, would have never walked into a house (bearing in mind that a hot call for burglary in progress) by myself, unless the facts on the ground were suitable for me to enter without appropriate backup. This officer did. After identifying Gates, he should have left). The mere fact that he didn't leave was may have allowed the homeowner to tweak him and piss him off, period! Hence, the tumult and arrest that followed is the essence of this debate.
President Obama responded to this issue, as I would expect any forthright president should have after being asked by a member of the press. The use of the word 'stupidly' according to the president, should have been calibrated differently. To this end I also agree. The debate is here folks, and its real. Lets be decent to one another, and not attempt to blow smoke up people's ... fill in the rest. These things happen.
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07-30-2009, 01:50 AM #15
Re: Sgt ******* and Cambridge Police Dept
I don't fault Obama, he is a good dictator. And the United Socialist Republic of America is still #1!!! Praise Obama!!!
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07-30-2009, 12:03 PM #16
Re: Sgt ******* and Cambridge Police Dept
Originally Posted by guestwhen
As far as the presidents remarks, Imagine if George Bush was on TV and was asked the same question about the same incident, but Bush states, " I am biased, I have known Sgt. ******* and his family for years and considered them friends, that being said, I believe Prof. Gates and the entire Harvard Community acted stupidly, Gates should have just complied and we would not be having this discussion.........Don't be quick to call B/S because you base everything on what you would do, there are others in the world besides you. Be safe and use your best judgement in the future, I am sure your parents instilled good manners and a sense of right and wrong in you.
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07-30-2009, 01:01 PM #17
Re: Sgt ******* and Cambridge Police Dept
The officer did nothing wrong. The officer was conducting an investigation. If the professor was not racist himself he would have been able to see past the white cop and assisted in the investigation. When someone calls in saying someone broke into a home, which does happen, the cops have to think there might be hostages. We always plan for the worst and hope for the best. It was good police work and a shame that the charges were dropped. People need to cooperate and stop playing the stupid race card.
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07-30-2009, 01:52 PM #18
Re: Sgt ******* and Cambridge Police Dept
Lots of Monday morning QB's on here. It's bad when the general public does it but when members of the LEO community does it pretty ridiculous because we should know better. When someone asks me what I would do in a particular situation I say that, "I don't know because. I wasn't there." All of you who are saying that you would have done this or that and that it was a POP arrest should be ashamed because none of us where there, plain and simple. So would I have arrested Gates for what he did? I don't know. I wasn't there.
However, based on seeing the interviews with both individuals and how they conduct themselves and reading one of the best police reports I've see in a long time, I'd say it was fairly clear who was in the wrong.
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07-30-2009, 07:24 PM #19
Sgt *******, Professor Gates & Prez Obama
It's a bit ironic that the three people who "reacted badly" will sit down together in the White House and drink a beer while the one person who did not overreact (the passerby) will be at work Thursday.
Must be a guy thing!
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07-30-2009, 08:47 PM #20
Re: Sgt ******* and Cambridge Police Dept
Originally Posted by Ride'n the fence
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