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  1. #11
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    Re: $30-$50 Million

    Quote Originally Posted by Guest
    FYI, the public voted for tax cuts which are part of the reason for the reduced county budget. We are in the deepest economic recession since 1929. What is the public supposed to say: go ahead and raise my taxes while we are in danger of being laid off so deputies can get COLAs and keep their nice benefit packages and administrators and politicians can continue to double-dip?!
    Shut up. Cola, are you kidding me.... you call 2% raise in 2 years COLA when inflation is 7% A YEAR. As far as double dipping, They earned their retirement and were elected by the citizens as SHERIFF, a new position. There not getting anything they shouldn't. You are probably not even a cop and taxes... I pay them too,, 50 dollars a year won't break you pocketbook :devil:

  2. #12
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    Re: $30-$50 Million

    Give us all a break. We give back and the Admin. keeps growing. They buy out one 33 year Major and promote another 30 Major. Keep spreading the top and getting rid of the bottom. How about the unknown amount of money that could be saved if Captains and above lost their take home cars and signed one out when needed? How much would that save? They make alot more than us who drive our own cars, and maintain them with no complaints. HOW Much? How about getting rid of one or two more Majors positions at SAB and make the Captains report to one instead of Four. They keep showing how cutting this saves this many Deps. and so forth but promoting one Major cost how many Deps? 42 buy outs rangeing from your salery till Oct. 1st to How many 100000's per person. How many millions were spent and will continue to be spent. BUT THEY ARE BROKE. A little more truth on the 411 would help us all understand what is really going on.

  3. #13
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    Re: $30-$50 Million

    Did you not notice that the two newly vacated Captain's positions have NOT been filled? The LT's position has NOT been filled. Retiring or bought out Srg's positions have YET to be filled, pending further potential consolodation. Each of these constitutes a position gone and hence, SAVES MONEY. Please understand the process behind these decisions before you start an unjust, and uninformed, rant

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    Re: $30-$50 Million

    Quote Originally Posted by shutup
    Shut up. Cola, are you kidding me.... you call 2% raise in 2 years COLA when inflation is 7% A YEAR. As far as double dipping, They earned their retirement and were elected by the citizens as SHERIFF, a new position. There not getting anything they shouldn't. You are probably not even a cop and taxes... I pay them too,, 50 dollars a year won't break you pocketbook :devil:
    Try getting your economic data from somewhere other than a blogger:

    U.S. Retail Price Inflation (Annual Average) 1985-2008
    Source: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
    1985 = 3.60%
    1986 = 1.9%
    1987 = 3.60%
    1988 = 4.1%
    1989 = 4.8%
    1990 = 5.4%
    1991 = 4.2%
    1992 = 3.0%
    1993 = 3.0%
    1994 = 2.6%
    1995 = 2.8%
    1996 = 3.0%
    1997 = 2.3%
    1998 = 1.6%
    1999 = 2.2%
    2000 = 3.40%
    2001 = 2.8%
    2002 = 1.6%
    2003 = 2.3%
    2004 = 2.7%
    2005 = 3.40%
    2006 = 3.2%
    2007 = 2.8%
    2008 = 3.8%
    Cumulative U.S. Retail Price Inflation (Annual Average)
    1985-2008 = 99.67%

    U.S. Wage Inflation 1985-2008
    Source: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
    1985 = 3.50%
    1986 = 1.6%
    1987 = 3.60%
    1988 = 4.0%
    1989 = 4.8%
    1990 = 5.2%
    1991 = 4.1%
    1992 = 2.9%
    1993 = 2.8%
    1994 = 2.5%
    1995 = 2.9%
    1996 = 2.9%
    1997 = 2.3%
    1998 = 1.3%
    1999 = 2.2%
    2000 = 3.50%
    2001 = 2.7%
    2002 = 1.4%
    2003 = 2.2%
    2004 = 2.6%
    2005 = 3.50%
    2006 = 3.2%
    2007 = 2.9%
    2008 = 4.1%
    Cumulative U.S. Wage Inflation
    1985-2008 = 104.45%

    So, just to sum up for you, "shut up:" Inflation never topped 5.4% in the last 23 years. Cumulative U.S. Wages have beat inflation for the last 23 years, and we have had nicer raises than most Americans since 2000 for sure (maybe further back than that).

    I picked 1985 because the "older" deputies who only get COLA are usually the ones whining about it. Did you really think your high school diploma and just doing what was required everyday was going to be a bottomless trough for your to feed at? If you want to earn more, improve yourself and move up. If not, keep doing the minimum - it's worked so well for your so far.
    Ten6Niner for Sheriff in 2012!

  5. #15
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    Re: $30-$50 Million

    We get generous pay & benefits because we perform high risk, unpleasant jobs, which reduces life expectancy and increases the risk of injury and disability. A college degree is useless in this line of work, it is not required, and there is not additional compensation for having it, aside from the state funded trust ($30 or $80). The worthless double-dipping politicians and administrators are the ones who have abused the public feeding trough because they never seem to get enough and do not perform a vital service to the taxpayers like deputies do.

  6. #16
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    Re: $30-$50 Million

    So, just to sum up for you, "shut up:" Inflation never topped 5.4% in the last 23 years. Cumulative U.S. Wages have beat inflation for the last 23 years, and we have had nicer raises than most Americans since 2000 for sure (maybe further back than that).

    I picked 1985 because the "older" deputies who only get COLA are usually the ones whining about it. Did you really think your high school diploma and just doing what was required everyday was going to be a bottomless trough for your to feed at? If you want to earn more, improve yourself and move up. If not, keep doing the minimum - it's worked so well for your so far.[/quote]


    Based on your own economic data we took a pay cut last year based on inflation. And what's your spin on our merit increases. 2% in 2006, 0 in 2007, 0 in 2008 and 0 in 2009 and 2010 according to the Sheriff's latest meeting with the FOP. So let's see that equates to a total merit/step increase of 2% over 5 years which averages out to .4% annually. Yippe! WHoaaaaa! Yehaaaa! Can you name a single agency with a sh**tier step plan?

  7. #17
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    Re: $30-$50 Million

    Quote Originally Posted by Ten6Niner
    Quote Originally Posted by shutup
    Shut up. Cola, are you kidding me.... you call 2% raise in 2 years COLA when inflation is 7% A YEAR. As far as double dipping, They earned their retirement and were elected by the citizens as SHERIFF, a new position. There not getting anything they shouldn't. You are probably not even a cop and taxes... I pay them too,, 50 dollars a year won't break you pocketbook :devil:
    Try getting your economic data from somewhere other than a blogger:

    U.S. Retail Price Inflation (Annual Average) 1985-2008
    Source: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
    1985 = 3.60%
    1986 = 1.9%
    1987 = 3.60%
    1988 = 4.1%
    1989 = 4.8%
    1990 = 5.4%
    1991 = 4.2%
    1992 = 3.0%
    1993 = 3.0%
    1994 = 2.6%
    1995 = 2.8%
    1996 = 3.0%
    1997 = 2.3%
    1998 = 1.6%
    1999 = 2.2%
    2000 = 3.40%
    2001 = 2.8%
    2002 = 1.6%
    2003 = 2.3%
    2004 = 2.7%
    2005 = 3.40%
    2006 = 3.2%
    2007 = 2.8%
    2008 = 3.8%
    Cumulative U.S. Retail Price Inflation (Annual Average)
    1985-2008 = 99.67%

    U.S. Wage Inflation 1985-2008
    Source: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
    1985 = 3.50%
    1986 = 1.6%
    1987 = 3.60%
    1988 = 4.0%
    1989 = 4.8%
    1990 = 5.2%
    1991 = 4.1%
    1992 = 2.9%
    1993 = 2.8%
    1994 = 2.5%
    1995 = 2.9%
    1996 = 2.9%
    1997 = 2.3%
    1998 = 1.3%
    1999 = 2.2%
    2000 = 3.50%
    2001 = 2.7%
    2002 = 1.4%
    2003 = 2.2%
    2004 = 2.6%
    2005 = 3.50%
    2006 = 3.2%
    2007 = 2.9%
    2008 = 4.1%
    Cumulative U.S. Wage Inflation
    1985-2008 = 104.45%

    So, just to sum up for you, "shut up:" Inflation never topped 5.4% in the last 23 years. Cumulative U.S. Wages have beat inflation for the last 23 years, and we have had nicer raises than most Americans since 2000 for sure (maybe further back than that).

    I picked 1985 because the "older" deputies who only get COLA are usually the ones whining about it. Did you really think your high school diploma and just doing what was required everyday was going to be a bottomless trough for your to feed at? If you want to earn more, improve yourself and move up. If not, keep doing the minimum - it's worked so well for your so far.
    1) I have a 4 year degree
    2)2008 3.8% 2007 2.8% =6.6% Inflation over 2 years (I'm lucky if I got a rasie 2% raise over 2 years with no step plan)
    3) In this job your are not paid for your education, but the risk and responsibilities. The split second decision making to use deadly force or take someones freedom.
    I'm not complaining because I'm making a living, I did not take this job to get rich, but we need to be able to make ends meet. I'm tired of hearing about the "tax payer" when I'm a GOD DAMN tax payer too!!! I have many friends in the private sector and none are suffering like the deputies here worring about if they are gonna have a job, It used to be Law Enforcement had job security and was one of the perks that attracted many :devil:

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