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10-10-2006, 09:32 PM #1
October 10th, 2006 Contract Proposal
Today, the Labor Board met with the city for 3 hours
The city counter proposed to our last offer with the following:
1. Wages - They proposed 16%(7, 5, 4) as oppposed to our proposal of 17%(7, 5, 5)
2. Multipier - City proposed a 3.5%, retro for all years. Would not start until 10/01/2007 and we would have to start contributing 9.5% effective 10/01/06 (We proposed the same but effective immediatley)
3. COLA - They propsed a 1% COLA/20 year, effective 10/01/08, not including DROP participants and a 5 year delay not including your DROP years and keeping both supplements( We proposed a 1.5% for 20 years (dont touch the supps) effective 2006, but employees wont start to receive the benefit until 2008 with a 5 year delay including DROP participants)
We as the Board felt that anything less that our last proposal to the city was sub standard. We also feel that we have been more than accomodating as compared to our original offer from June 1st, 2006. In light of that, we so informed the city that we, felt the last offer was no good and would bring it back to the members for a vote. The city in no other words told us that there was no more room for them to negotiate.
Shortly after leaving, as you can imagine, all our phones blew up. The last information we received from the city was they were calling an emergency meeting of the city council and mayor at 430 pm today to discuss todays events. We have no idea what will come of this
What I ask of each and everyone of you is this. Between now and the Thursday special labor meeting is to keep an open mind and look at all the info we are going to provide you. We will have a full report there and post whatever the citys offer is on the FOP board. As such, we need to be fluid with their offers. As it stands, we are going to move foward with the vote beginning Friday and ending Monday.
At this point, the labor board feels the offer is sub standard. I have no idea if between now and Friday their offer will change.....but as it stands....we do not agree with their offer.
As I said, we...as a union must be fluid......every hour things seem to be discussed, changed, counter offered. At this time, the facts are what they are.....their offer is on the table for a vote of the body. This is where you the member get to voice your opinion....wehter its for or against
If the city decides to schedule a mtg this week before Thursday, we will entertain it and liste to any counter they might have but I would not hold my breath. If we feel any new offer is substantial, will bring that one to the bopdy for discussion and a vote
As far as what happens after a vote, the board will reconvene and counter offer again.....as always, if you have any questions, let us know
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10-10-2006, 09:44 PM #2
Thank you for the update and I too agree, this is a substandard counter by the City and would definitely not be in favor of it.
However, the fact they are calling an emergency meeting is a sign they realize we do not stand behind their efforts or lack of a sufficient contract to get us through 3 more years of higher costs of living, inflation and other agencies getting better deals.
I would also still remind everyone, that the offer the board left the city was also substandard by what we deserve and still do not agree with that one.
Thanks again for the hard work and I look forward to Thursday night.
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10-10-2006, 09:53 PM #3
Slapped in the face
Once again the City is pulling the "This is it crap" We cannot be stupid enough to go for it again can we? With the contracts that have been signed by other cities as of late our offer to the city was a bargain. Still the city can't even agree to this. They still feel the need to come back and chip a little away. I say we vote 1,0000000000 to ZERO telling them to shove them crumbs up their ass!!!!
Our next offer should be in line with what these other cities are giving their "valued employees".
Wake up Plantation.....we are not going to take it anymore!!!!!
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10-11-2006, 02:59 AM #4
Here we go, getting fooled again. With all due respect for the labor board, good job! alot of hard work you guys are doing a tough job. However I feel we have compromised ENOUGH!!!! Somebody put an end to these rumors of a labor board member getting calls from council members with "what will it take to get a signed contract?" Lets due anything to disrupt their beautiful city short of a work stoppage or gee I have the FLU!!!! Im sick of it. They are playing us all for fools.
Guess what good members of the council board your ART IN THE PARK is comming and so are we!!!! with big fat signs and handouts. We're bringing are families to help and do are part to taint your little ART SHOW!!!
Go ahead and push that sh%&ty contract on us and we'll see where those chips fall. Bye
p.s. Please drink and drive responsable. HMM?
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10-11-2006, 11:17 PM #5
As I previously posted, our contract negotiations are still continuing
Since the special mtg yesterday between the Mayor and Council and today, many things are happening and in motion.....
As such, your Labor Board is still working to get you the best possible contract!!!!!!!!
Like I said, with negotiations, you have to be fluid.
We will present whatever offer the city wants to present to you tommorrow...not necessarily the offer from Tuesday.....
What I can say right now is that your Labor Board has been in constant contact with the city, Mayor and Council to get you the best contract possible
BOTH sides are still committed and we hope to bring you a better offer than what was presented on Tuesday
Stay tuned....
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10-12-2006, 01:07 AM #6Originally Posted by Joseph J Mercogliano
Since the special mtg yesterday between the Mayor and Council and today, many things are happening and in motion..... As such, your Labor Board is still working to get you the best possible contract!!!!!!!!
Like I said, with negotiations, you have to be fluid.
We will present whatever offer the city wants to present to you tommorrow...not necessarily the offer from Tuesday.....
What I can say right now is that your Labor Board has been in constant contact with the city, Mayor and Council to get you the best contract possible
BOTH sides are still committed and we hope to bring you a better offer than what was presented on Tuesday
Stay tuned....
WHY are we not presenting the city with Lauderhill, Pembroke Pines and Coral Springs NEW contracts? We should be back at 21% MINIMUM, and 2-3% COLA, etc.
BTW, I am sure everyone knows by now that Lauderhill got full medical for their officers after retirement. Remember, "It could be worse, you could be working for Lauderhill."
Lastly, let's say that an agreement is reached and the body votes no to whatever offer is presented. Let's say our PR Campaign goes into full swing. What exactly will we be fighting for? Will it be for our last proposal of 17%, 1.5% COLA, etc.?
What happens in a PR Campaign if the City says, "ok, you can have that 17% and 1.5% COLA?" We would still be in last place.
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10-12-2006, 01:13 AM #7Originally Posted by the beggining of the end
However I feel we have compromised ENOUGH!!!!
Somebody put an end to these rumors of a labor board member getting calls from council members with "what will it take to get a signed contract?"
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10-12-2006, 02:16 AM #8
Lauderhill did not get full medical, only a percentage paid at retirement
Theyre voting on their contract this week
And a 1% COLA I heard
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10-12-2006, 02:20 AM #9
We are negotiating for last place...again. Another labor board sell out. I'm out of here.
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10-12-2006, 07:09 AM #10
same old story
Here we go again. Everybody talks tough, but we'll approve any contract that's put before us. "It's the best we're going to get" is a familiar mantra around here. No one will leave and everyone will continue to provide above average service for below average wages. We are running at 30% below last year's minimum staffing, you can't get a day off or any training. But keep busting your a** and show them that we don't need any more officers to do the same job we did last year.
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