delegates

that delegates meeting was awful what is the point of having training if you have to sit in a classroom and be tourchered it stunk!!! do more hands on

Got a question for you. When was the last time your post hosted a delegates and what was your training. Its a very hard thing to organize, so get over it.

Just be lucky you get to go! Your city pays hundreds of dollars to pay for your trip. Some posts and explorers don't even get the opportunity to go. If you don't like it, then give another explorer an opportunity to go and shut your mouth.

:roll: YOU APPARENTLY HAVEN'T BEEN AN EXPLORER FOR VERY LONG :roll:

ive been an explorer for 6 years actually and our department doesnt pay anything we raise our money .... so ive been here longer and know alot more than most of you and to sit in a cafeteria and watch a slide show thats not training no way around it and my city cant host a delegates because we dont have a big enough range but when we were in venice we had our instructors come over to train and it was hands on and alot better than this one was this is not how delegates is suppose to be its boring

Wow, dude, that was one very long sentence. If you have been an explorer for 6 years, I assume you are about 20 yoa or so? I'm not trying to be the grammar police, and I understand this is a message board, but punctuation makes it a lot easier for others to read. Remember, law enforcement is all about writing and articulation.

Six years, huh? So you are about 20, give or take a year. Not to make fun or anything, but don't you think you're a little old to be a police explorer? I know you can be until 21, but come on now, you have to grow up sometime. How long do you plan on running around, playing cops and robbers, with a red gun attached to your hip? I left when I was just about to turn 18, at the same time I turned around and got a full time job with the PD. You, my friend, are old enough to be a LEO. My suggestion is to stop running around with the kiddies and get some actual life expirience. Having been an explorer, i figured out that it doen't mean doo doo if you don't have any life expirience along with it.

On another note, you need to do some research. No explorer post that I am familiar with is 100% funded by raised money. I am willing to bet that every explorer post in the country has a budget from the city. My suggestion is to go to city council and ask them what your annual budget is. Even if they tell you none, they still pay the police officers who are there by your side and provide transportation and gas. In most cases this comes out to be mega OT for an officer with a regular assignment.

Finally, you need to grow up. Police work is alot of bordom and a little excitment. Somebody took their time and effort to put together training for you, I suggest you take in as much as you can. Boring or not, it may be the training that could save your life someday.

In the future please be aware that six years as an explorer isn't anything. Sure it looks good on a resume, but the truth is I have learned more about police work in a short year then six years as an explorer could have ever taught me. It is a good base for p&p, law, and safety knowledge, but the things that make you a great officer and save your ass from being kicked is what you learn in the real world, from life experience, not by playing cops and robbers with the kiddies.

Please don't take this an downgrading what an explorer post can do for you, it got me a job and a career. I have one thing you don't, and that is life expirience, I am older and wiser. I have been there and done that. So hopefully with this I have been able to show you your place, and maybe you will take some of my advice.

Regards

I have to disagree. I was an explorer for 5 years and have been a deputy for 6. I had much better training as an explorer than I did in the academy and minus a few classes, since I became a deputy for that matter. And now the academy is dumbed down even more than it was 7 years ago.

I don't know where you were an explorer, but it sounds like you all didn't do much. I learned how handcuff, shoot, use a baton and most of all think while I was in the post. The same people that taght me as an explorer also taught me in the academy. The difference is as an explorer we got more in depth and hands on.

Remember you only get out of exploring what you put in to it. That's true for everything in life.

I left when I was 20. Some people forget where they came from and where they learned the basics.

Also I KNOW at my agency, there is no budget, allthough there is a full time deputy. Each agency is different.

-Deputy McCoy

alright well lets see you got out and got hired at a young age thats great. But, at the same time my four year degree double major may i add is going to get me alot further in life than you. Also when i am promoted and making more money and im in charge of people that dont have as good of an education than you will really understand the value of that. i could easily go get hired on a low paying department like DOT or something like that making 30,000 a year or i can work at going to a big department being promoted and making alot of money. also i am a good shooter and i enjoy what i do so im taking advantage of a program i enjoy until i am done with college.

And on your next note our post was about to be disbanned about 12 years ago because our department doesnt fund us and we couldnt afford it so we do raise all of our own money so as for the research i know mine its part of what college has taught me is researching. ignorance is horrible so i dont make a statement i cant back up. Yes they do pay for one officer and gas i will give you that but that just means they wasted money for me to go to a delegates meeting where the training wasnt that great. i give it to the host post they did a great job and its hard to find training but watching a slideshow is not training. this training wont save my life because it was photos of how people have died or killed themselves .... i know the ins and outs of police work so you dont have to tell me what its about i know that.


Life experience is what you are talking about but this is a life experience and older does not mean wiser i mean my college degree vs. your time on a dpt hmmm with a good dpt the college will win sorry to tell you that thats why in Tampa or department wont hire anyone without 60 credit hours so when im retired with a full pention and i can run my own business or go take my degree somewhere else to work than i think ill be better of. so i guess the life lesson here is dont rush into things and dont think you know more than you do cause there is always someone out there who knows more younger or not age is not anything anymore

Just a word of advice, from someone who has been there and now doing it, do not go into this career with that attitude. The guy or girl standing in the stink right next to you will not respect or trust you and if your lucky your FTO will not boot you out of the car because of this "I know all, I was an Explorer/I have a degree and all of you will work for me" attitude, you are gonna have a rude awakening Bub. Yes in certain Agencies, a degree is required and I applaud you for getting one, but if you think for one minute that a degree is gonna make you a better cop, you are sadly mistaken.

I was an Explorer for a long time, and I attended several delegates meetings, and yes some of the training sucked, and I thought it was a waste but its an opportunity be gratefull and take advantage of it!

No i dont have that attitude i take advantage of good oppurtonities. but your an officer in a message board for explorers discussing a meeting you werent at. your right you shouldnt have that attitude so dont. i mean life experience is great for you enjoy it this is a life experience for me. Explorers has made me a better person and it has changed and affected my life when i have an FTO i will respect them even if at times they are wrong everyone makes mistakes and no one is perfect but for an officer that thinks they know so much to be on here discussing a matter that they dont real know a whole lot about or making judgements and statements about things they have no clue about is childish. So i will continue to be an explorer and enjoy it and i know that i will make a great officer and a better one than many that i have met. im sorry that you have been mistaken about so many things with this conversation but if there is anything else i need to clarify feel free to ask. Because i do know alot more than you think! Bub!