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    Angry Civilians?

    This comment is not meant to disrespect LEO at all but are civilians recognized at all in this administration?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    This comment is not meant to disrespect LEO at all but are civilians recognized at all in this administration?
    They are at a higher level then deputies. Look at how many civilians we have. They drive better vehicles then deputies, get more tools to do their “jobs” and are never questioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    They are at a higher level then deputies. Look at how many civilians we have. They drive better vehicles then deputies, get more tools to do their “jobs” and are never questioned.
    They even have a step plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    They are at a higher level then deputies. Look at how many civilians we have. They drive better vehicles then deputies, get more tools to do their “jobs” and are never questioned.
    Civilians are only recognized if you are one of the upper command staff golden ones. This administration is trying to weed out as many civilians as they can. I don't know where you come up with they have better Vehicles. Look at what the CSA's are riding around in. God knows they work their ass off and are civilian. they do the jobs that certified sure as hell do not want to do. I know several civilians that do not have brand new vehicles. Seems like the vehicle thing is like a status symbol and more tools you have to be joking. Look at the amount of tools you are issued on your duty belt that you do not pay for. Oh ya one of the big ones is a gun. Check out other counties they don't provide that. Oh and if civilians get better tools why do the mechanics in fleet have to bring their own if they want the job and look at their starting pay. Check out the prices on one of those tool boxes (Empty). The never get questioned- you are so wrong. The Civilian staff with this administration is questioned more then any employee they are constantly proving their worth.
    The step program you are talking about are you kidding. That only took 20 years to get in some places in that agency and certified has had it since the beginning. Civilians are those who do a job that is vital to the agency but looked at as pond scum under the certified boots. I have witnessed how they are truly treated and you are so wrong in your perception.

    Re-visit who you are referring to as a civilian that gets more than the certified and most likely you are looking at a close friend of the higher administration not one that has worked to get where they are at by time and dedication. Those civilians that have worked and been dedicated are F...K.. and consistently looking over their shoulder to see who is going to come in for just a visit and then take over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    They even have a step plan.
    Wow you are a new guy. You are correct look at how many civilians the agency has. around 7, 00 total employees and probably about 2000 of them certified. just guessing at numbers. The golden civilians with with brand new vehicles are the chiefs or sheriffs families or friends recently brought in. The senior employees are fighting to stay there and are questioned daily on who what when and where and justify their positions.
    The statement the civilians drive better cars then deputies do you see what the CSA's drive? Those are civilians that do the jobs that LE does not want to. Records / Warrants/ HR/ corrections clerks/ Finance/ purchasing /all do the jobs LE either cant or does not want to but all need to be done. The statement they get more tools then LE again you are sadly misinformed. Lets start with uniforms - Civilians get a shirt but required to purchase everything else on their lower pay scale then LE. Mechanics are lowest paid in the agency and must bring their own tools to work and required to obtain ASE certifications that I would honestly love to see some road officers try to pass. Have you prices an empty tool box? Ya the agency buys everything on our duty belt and gives you a computer and a car and a shot gun and makes sure you have the classes you need to keep your certification up to date every year. Civilians do not get salary incentives for college degrees like LE. They do not get hire on incentive . Civilians just within the last 10 years established a step plan for promotions and with that somebody has to die or leave or be forced out for another civilian to obtain that position. LE had that from day one ( deputy, corp, Sgt. Lt. Capt.) With that statement they even have a step plan go to wal mart /Target / culvers all have a type of step plan that is what businesses do in order to show employees there is a career there. This administration does not recognize civilians like Mike Scott did unless you are one that they have brought in. Civilians are treated like pond scum underneath your shoes and seeing how you responded to the original question do civilians get recognized in this agency you are clearly not up to speed with how this political circle works.

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    I am so worn out by reading this...........

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Wow you are a new guy. You are correct look at how many civilians the agency has. around 7, 00 total employees and probably about 2000 of them certified. just guessing at numbers. The golden civilians with with brand new vehicles are the chiefs or sheriffs families or friends recently brought in. The senior employees are fighting to stay there and are questioned daily on who what when and where and justify their positions.
    The statement the civilians drive better cars then deputies do you see what the CSA's drive? Those are civilians that do the jobs that LE does not want to. Records / Warrants/ HR/ corrections clerks/ Finance/ purchasing /all do the jobs LE either cant or does not want to but all need to be done. The statement they get more tools then LE again you are sadly misinformed. Lets start with uniforms - Civilians get a shirt but required to purchase everything else on their lower pay scale then LE. Mechanics are lowest paid in the agency and must bring their own tools to work and required to obtain ASE certifications that I would honestly love to see some road officers try to pass. Have you prices an empty tool box? Ya the agency buys everything on our duty belt and gives you a computer and a car and a shot gun and makes sure you have the classes you need to keep your certification up to date every year. Civilians do not get salary incentives for college degrees like LE. They do not get hire on incentive . Civilians just within the last 10 years established a step plan for promotions and with that somebody has to die or leave or be forced out for another civilian to obtain that position. LE had that from day one ( deputy, corp, Sgt. Lt. Capt.) With that statement they even have a step plan go to wal mart /Target / culvers all have a type of step plan that is what businesses do in order to show employees there is a career there. This administration does not recognize civilians like Mike Scott did unless you are one that they have brought in. Civilians are treated like pond scum underneath your shoes and seeing how you responded to the original question do civilians get recognized in this agency you are clearly not up to speed with how this political circle works.
    We get it........civilians are the victims here.........time for another drink.........cheers..........

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    Civilian Rants and Trolls

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    We get it........civilians are the victims here.........time for another drink.........cheers..........
    I knew the majority of people trolling this site were disgruntled civilians and now these LENGTHY threads prove it. Let's get the facts straight for the snowflake spoon fed civilians: 1) YOU DONT RISK YOUR LIFE AND PUT IT ON THE LINE EVERY DAY YOU WORK!
    2) You have a very good job with an excellent schedule where you don't work holidays like certified. 3) You enjoy the same generous benefit package and vacation sick time off certified does. Over half the geriatric civilians openly say they're only here for the benefits. 4) Almost all of you ALREADY have a step plan. The last two soft worthless sheriffs only cared for and favored civilians.
    When in doubt refer back to #!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    I knew the majority of people trolling this site were disgruntled civilians and now these LENGTHY threads prove it. Let's get the facts straight for the snowflake spoon fed civilians: 1) YOU DONT RISK YOUR LIFE AND PUT IT ON THE LINE EVERY DAY YOU WORK!
    2) You have a very good job with an excellent schedule where you don't work holidays like certified. 3) You enjoy the same generous benefit package and vacation sick time off certified does. Over half the geriatric civilians openly say they're only here for the benefits. 4) Almost all of you ALREADY have a step plan. The last two soft worthless sheriffs only cared for and favored civilians.
    When in doubt refer back to #!.
    If we get ride of the civilians who will the sheriff bang in his vehicle, who will write the emails for the sheriff to send out to all users, who will set up the teleprompter and his BS statements, Carmine is screwed without them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    I knew the majority of people trolling this site were disgruntled civilians and now these LENGTHY threads prove it. Let's get the facts straight for the snowflake spoon fed civilians: 1) YOU DONT RISK YOUR LIFE AND PUT IT ON THE LINE EVERY DAY YOU WORK!
    2) You have a very good job with an excellent schedule where you don't work holidays like certified. 3) You enjoy the same generous benefit package and vacation sick time off certified does. Over half the geriatric civilians openly say they're only here for the benefits. 4) Almost all of you ALREADY have a step plan. The last two soft worthless sheriffs only cared for and favored civilians.
    When in doubt refer back to #!.
    I guess CSA's don't drive around in a POS with a star on it and do the shit jobs you don't want to do. OH ya Civilians in the jail have just as much contact with inmates as certified so that high risk thing should be the same for their retirement but isn't it is the same as a school teacher or lunch lady. I'm sure you are better then the CO's also so that really doesn't matter. Do you pay to have to drive your assigned car? Not all civilians get holiday's off as you are stating and never have! Nobody has said the package deal with the agency was terrible with its benefits. You are comparing all civilians in lump when you may be referring again too only a few chosen ones put in specialty made up positions. Others have earned their spots without having to look over their shoulders. Your kind have been there for 100 years- and have been talked about by the rest of the ones that are team players and respect each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    If we get ride of the civilians who will the sheriff bang in his vehicle, who will write the emails for the sheriff to send out to all users, who will set up the teleprompter and his BS statements, Carmine is screwed without them.
    Wow looks like selected ones again not all?

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